personally tragic as david koch his is, you are not going to see a significant change. the moment, to watches when charles koch steps away chase cope takes a larger role. that will answer the question on both of things will change or not. >> final question here please. >> could you briefly comment on the koch brothers effort to make considerably large political contributions throughout the country to state legislature candidates. >> absolutely. we talk a lot about commodities trading. koch affects politics is the same way as commodities. explosive advantage of knowledge. so koch has essentially built political power in the united states. complex pipeline networks. state legislatures, your court systems and federal local, united states congress, koch examines where it can happen with impact and work in change policy and realized early on, political power in a state legislature, is an on valued commodity. you can buy it really cheap. . . and they were way ahead of other people and realizing the power and the book talks about that. in un-american policy at the state level.

but david koch was a partner with charles koch and charles koch was a driving strategic thinker, theriving force behind the corporation and behind the potable network. as personally tragic as it is, we are not going to see a significant change. it's just a moment to watch when charles koch steps away in chase koch takes a larger role. that is whether things will change or not. >> yes, can you briefly comment on the koch brothers efforts to make conservative large political contribution throughout the country to state legislator candidates? >> absolutely. here's a whole i put that, we talk about commodity trading. koch back politics in the way they have an advantage of knowledge. so koch has built a massive political power in the united states. picture like a pipeline network. you have your state legislators, your court systems, your federal court, local court system in the united states convoy. they examine where it has the most impact in working change policy. and it realized early on, political power and state legislature is an undervalued commodity. you can buy it really cheap. an

if you go to the upper east side of manhattan, the rich areas, the late david koch lived, you go to aspen, go to palm beach county, very richest parts of america, bel air where president reagan lived in retirement went democratic. i think what happens is americans, as i put it more often, are split in politics along cultural and economic lines. you see split on economic lines, like rich people voting against, voting for candidates for lower taxes. you see that less today than you did in the future. a better indicator is what is your position on abortion rights? do you believe roe v wade was correctly decided, and expansion of view of abortion rights should take place or do you think that abortion is the murder of a human being and you should -- extinguishes the human life and should be prohibited or at least limited in its availability? those issues are more powerful in determining voter choices these days than issues of taxes. the rich people in manhattan, california, are voting for the high tax parties. they are paying high taxes. they think on balance that is good public policy. their

if you go to the upper east side of manhattan, the rich areas lived.he late david koch you go to palmeach county, you go to the very richest parts of america. bel air where president reagan lived in retirement, going democratic. happened hereas is americans as i have put it more often are split in politics along cultural, and economic lines. you seep splits on economic lines such as rich people voting against candidates. you see that less today than you do in the future. a better indicator is what is your position on abortion rights? do you believe that roe v. wade was correctly decided or do you think that abortion is the murder of a human being and that it extinguishes a human life and should be prohibited or at least limited in its availability? powerfulues are more in determining voter choices these days then issues of taxes. issuesn of taxes. voters in michigan and california are voting for high taxes. they think that is good policy. it is their choice. south, we saw less of that, of high income people moving towards the democratic party but in the 2018 house election, metro hous