so, david morens admitted to destroying evidence thatation felony he needs to be indicted, foia lady interviewed likely indicted as well but real question is was foia layered just following orders did an fauci say please come in my office delete emails i suspect orders came from him only know if we interview foia lady not getting much out of david more ernst like a mob boss doesn't understand what federal records are deleting he didn't know emails were federal records no way if he that is incompetent he never should have been hired but i think trying to evade here but there's official people at nih that are giving instructions according to morens how to destroy evidence, and if those came from anthony fauci ultimately there is going to be culpability attached i revered morens to department of justice unfortunately our current department of justice doesn't seam to considered with crime there are people at nih trying to clean house, said we're not giving more to ecohealth not to pooest, but there has to be culpability still paying morens he destroyed evidence paid over a year doesn't w

david moran morens who was once dr. anthony fauci's top advisor which showed that merchan bragged how to make the emails connected to the pandemic "disappear" after the freedom and information act. brad joined us in our last hour listen here. >> he went out and said put things on my gmail so i don't get foiaed. we got hiss too ended dr. fauci or dr. cohen's know about this? >> john: our next guest is calling for the doj to intervene. let's pray in republican kentucky senator rand paul, senator good to have you. i want to make sure we set this up properly. we just got a whole download of emails with dazak as well. once as i can send it to tony wood to be fauci or give it to him at his house he is also smart to let colleagues and himself that would cause trouble. another one to "mine is a race long ago i verified that today and i'm pretty sure toni's was too. the best way to avoid foia hassles is to delete all emails when you learn a subject is getting sensitive" you tweeted this out on the x on fridays at fauci flunky da

thank you and i yelled back. >> i recognize doctor miller meeks from iowa. >> thank you, david morens, for testify before the select committee. i will follow up for a question you asked by doctor malliotakis where the received funding or moneys in relationship to the amount of funding going to the eco-health grant. did you receive any gift or anything of value during that exchange? >> a guy named kevin -- i shouldn't mention his name, doesn't matter. the eco-health people have their private baseball caps and i made a comment that that's a really cool hat and he is said i have an extra one, this one is old and has stains on it, i will just give it to you, and he didn't. >> thank you for that. i can understand how difficult it is for you to be here. you've had an illustrious career, you went to undergrad and medical school, at a prestigious university, i was on faculty at the university of michigan, you are dual board certified which is not an easy thing to do, to have dual board certification. as a public health servant and a captain in the public health service you have been on the fo

and it turns out that this guy david morens is basically saying look at me, i found a way to get ridd not even the media can discover they were there. that is very concerning, especially talking about, let's assume this was -- war criminal case and some may argue it were. n david: some people have having long term effects from the vaccine to attack the virus and the children that lost a year or more of training in school, who are suffering from this as a result of that and the businesses that have died or lost tremendous accounts because of pan democrats and lockdowns and they're working with a lab that might have been >> peter was the head of the ecohealth ashrines that funded the wuhan lab and it's this web that's very concerning when you have people talking on those sort of cozy terms, it is amazing, the entire covid pandemic four years and 10-20 million people dead and kids shout out of school and an economy that hasn't rebounded and was entirely avoid and will could have been prevented and people don't care complete the catch the fact that we could have avoided it all together.

health adviser david morens apologizing for deleting e-mails and using secret back channel on personal accounts to help anthony fauci evade covid transparency. >> i was not aware it was a federal record. >> you are editing things and letters he wanted to send to nih. >> you did that on personal e-mail, correct? >> if i did that, i don't remember. >> do you want to take your fifth amendment? you will be haunt from your testimony today. >> carley: we are all smart enough to know to never have smoking guns, if we did, we wouldn't put them in e-mails. that is in an e-mail. if we found them, we'd delete them. there is a lot that was exposed there, all coming to light now. >> todd: this is concerning for no other reason, shows people at top level of science don't understand how to go back into somebody's e-mail and find it later. >> carley: all out there. we mentioned earlier, up next, shock results from portland d.a. race putting other woke prosecutors on notice. >> todd: and council members, urging eric adams to revoke diy's key to the city. we are asking about that, we have a jam-packed m

david morens counseled contacts how to keep emails from the public and in early 2021 he writes i learnedow to make emails disappeared if i'm foiaed. i deleted most of the early emails after sending them to gmail. foia or freedom of information act is the law that entitles the public to see their government's records. this and other emails from morens drew bipartisan criticism at this hearing. >> unintentionally or not did you conduct government business through your personal email account? >> some of the emails i've seen that you have provided look incriminating. i don't know remember them. but yes, it looks like i made a mistake on more than one occasion. it certainly wasn't my intention to do that. >> many of these emails regard controversial government contractor eco health alliance and its president, peter daszak. they spent government money on research in wuhan. in 2020 the trump administration terminated funding for eco health's coronavirus in china. morens wrote this is sent from my gmail amount and send all replies to g. mail. he said he thought he was consulting with daszak in h

stuart: that adviser david morens used secret back channels to help dr.vade transparency. >> we're going to have him in front of the same select committee of oversight next month. we have a lot of questions for dr. fauci. it certainly appears that dr. fauci misled congress many times at best throughout covid and on the job. >> that lab in wuhan and tax dollars were going to fund gain of function reservice connected and have they were playing mad science with covid viruses and they knew that accidently leaked out in my opinion and not accidental leak and then they go to great lengths to cover thaw. the public led to believe we have to wear a mas and can have social distancing and this was not at any fault the chinese government or u.s. government. when the prosecute is go coming out, it was manufactured in the wuhan lab and our government did know about it. our government tax dollars were used to play a role in that and that's awful. to date, no one held account physical for this and i'm anxious to have dr. fauci in front of the committee. stuart: you're i

david morens is accused of properly conducting official government business from his private email accountrom the nih freedom of information act office to dodge record request. now he rode in a february 2021 email, "i learned from our 40 lady to make emails disappear. before the search starts up i deleted emails after sending them to gmail." deleted emails, government account here and he emphasized again november 2021 email, i ask you both nothing get sent to me except to my gmail. and republicans jumped on this clearly unethical conduct. what happened next? >> you rode you connected a reporter to dr. fauci via your secret back channel you are and what back channel did you have for dr. fauci? >> well, all of these terms like secret back channel and the other when you mention were just jokes. >> laura: [laughter] that is what my kids do, they pretend a lot. it is funny. let's look at the more hilarious emails april 2021. there is no worry come i can send stuff to tony at his house. he's too smart to let colleagues and stuff that could cause trouble. tony too smart? but today at the hearing,

david morens is being accused of improperly conducting official business from private email account and the nih freedom of information office to dodge record requests. morens wrote in a february of 2021 email i learned from our foye auto lady here how to make emails disappear after i'm foiaed but before the search starts plus i deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to gmail. deleted emails. government account. and he emphasized again in a november 2021 email i ask you both that nothing get sent to me except to my gmail. and hill republicans jumped on this clearly unethical conduct. what happened next? >> you wrote that you connected a reporter to dr. fauci, via your secret back channel what back channel did you have for dr. fauci? >> well, all these terms like secret back channel and the other one you mentioned were just jokes. >> laura: ha ha that's what me kids do pretend to laugh. april emails 2021. no worry about foias i can send stuff to tony on private gmail or hand it to him at work or house. is he too smart to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trou

listen to how david morens responded when he was pressed about deleting those e-mails.ct, how can you say that when you clearly in all these e-mails were intentionally avoiding foia. you said anytime your own words, sir. it in your own words, sir. >> well -- >> it sounds like you would agree with us that you have conducted government business through your personal if account. >> is that why you used your gmail instead of official -- >> that was for avoiding more embarrassment and danger -- >> specifically avoiding foia withs as your e-mails say, correct? >> well, yeah, i guess you could say that. stuart: we need congressman jim jordan. is this more evidence that covid began in a chinese lab in wuhan? are you convinced of that? >> i'm definitely convinced of the that. but i think we shouldn't be surprised when our government tells us things that are not accurate that they try to hide documents. that shouldn't surprise us. think of all the things they told us that weren't true. they said it wasn't gain of function research done in the lab, immaterial wasn't our tax dollar

david morens gmails, he was telling other people that write me on my gmail so i don't get foiaed, theformation. but you know, we wrote nih three times last year to get documents and it took a subpoena in april. and so dr. morens talks about well, before they actually do a search, i know how to delete them and if you misspell words they won't be found. but the fact is we still got them. and he was doing things that were so incredible and so revealing. when you see him saying that tony fauci's aware of what's going on but he is making every effort to steer away to doing any damage to ecohealth alliance -- who was just debarred by the federal government and so was peter daszak, their president, don't want to do any damage to ecohealth alliance and therefore protect nih and niad. things are underway to protect you at ecohealth alliance. i worked with the foia lady and all things are safe now. and, by the way, she hates foye as as well. >> lawrence: congressman, i'm sorry to interrupt you. >> no, you're good. >> lawrence: what's going to be done about it. >> well, first of all, is there an

david morens will be a key witness here. you have evidence that he has bragged about the ability to cover up smoking gun emails and keep them away from foia inquiries. hit listen to he said. >> i learned from our foia lady here how to make emails disappear. after foia but before the search starts. so i think we are all safe. plus i deleted most of those earlier emails after sending them to gmail. we are all smart enough to know to never have smoking guns. and if we did, we wouldn't put them in emails. and if we found them, we would delete them. >> john: congresswoman nicole says morens lied to congress which seems to be an epidemic of that today. what to say about this and what do you want to hear from him? >> i will tell you we had a transcribed dinner with dr. morens and a lot of this started with what jamie coomer was talking about which is where he went out and said hey, put things on my gmail so that i don't get foiaed. but we got is gmail's too and there's a lot of contradictions, john where he says one thing in the tr

david morens, a former top aide at the national institutes of health pushing contacts to use his permanent email address to -- they regard controversial eco health alliance and its president peter daszak. in april of 2021 morens wrote him i can either send stuff to tony or his private g-mail or hand it to him at his work at home. too smart to let colleagues send him stuff that could cause trouble. there was no evidence released yesterday that fauci used personal email for official discussions. at this hearing, morens drew bipartisan criticism. >> it is government business if you are advising him and advocating on his behalf and editing letters he wanted to send to nih. you did that on personal email, correct? >> i don't remember. if i did i shouldn't have done that. that's wrong. >> he said he believed his emails with eco health alliance were personal. he wrote the because of death threats and general harassment of me and my boss, tony fauci, we have to keep communications like this on private email so it can't be retrieved via foia. the trump administration in 2020 terminated funding for

david morens reading, quote i learned from -- if a lady, meaning freedom from information act expertpear, closed quote. and another email suggesting that someone contact fauci through a, quote: secret back channel. he even admitted to the strategy on capitol hill. is that why you used your email instead of official email. >> that was for avoiding more barmted. >> and specifically avoiding foye a correct? >> well, yeah. i guess you could say that. >> you could say that internet conspiracy netted works. covid whistleblower job and family metzl joins us now. jamie, you were mentioned how many times early in these emails. >> six times in the beginning of it. >> he didn't like that you were asking questions and a lot of it on our show. >> i was asking questions on your show and elsewhere and i'm a democrat so i was saying hey, we don't know the answer in those early growing mountain of circumstantial evidence. very likely drops research related incident in wuhan and these guys were closed to that possibility. >> brian: they went out of their way to stop being their words were we don't wan