>> i don't see any reason why she would. >> david wildstein has said at a 9/11 event, he talked to youffic. it's a little ambiguous exactly what. did he? >> yeah, i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people i spoke to that day. we stood around and spoke briefly that day. i don't have any recollection of him saying anything, but i'll tell you this. i'll tell you what he didn't say. he didn't say, hey, by the way, governor, i'm closing down lanes on the george washington bridge to stick it to the mayor. is that okay? that i'd remember. >> governor chris christie of new jersey with abc's diane sawyer. first one-on-one interview he's done since the scandal in his administration broke open in january. that last point the governor was addressing there was about the revelation in this new report from the governor's own legal team today in which the report says that on september 11th, last year, while access lanes were shut to the george washington bridge, apparently as part of some political vendetta against the town of ft. lee, governor christie was told

it is sad that david wildstein did what he did.nd our report reflects our findings in regard to those individuals. but it is not reflective of the actions of the whole at either the governor's office or the port authority this. yes, yes. >> [inaudible] >> okay. but, brian, we have so many people here. you do one quick one, please. >> [inaudible] about sampson. would you recommend that the governor ask for his resignation? >> again, what our report reflects, it was not about david sampson or his conduct. he denied having any prior knowledge and connection with the lane closures. so that was not -- and he was not involved in the hoboken issue at all. the allegation that, made by mayor zimmer that the funding of a rockefeller group study by the port authority, a study of hoe boeing been's north -- hoboken's north end that the port authority paid for that found the rockefeller group's project should be designated for development, it turns out that it was mayor zimmer who asked the port authority to fund the study. and the port authorit

during the week of the lane closures. , since thefrom there only public event at which david wildstein attended at the same time as the governor, was the 9/11 memorial event attended by many, many people. that the governor was in attendance there with his officials,authority not just wildstein. many port authority officials. overhat on a regular basis that period, dozens and dozens of spectators and families came up to the governor for handshakes and photos. the governor recalls seeing wildstein at the 9/11 memorial service, always in that public setting. he recalls having brief ,nteraction with others including wildstein. report, -- asas i the report reflects, does not recall the specifics of that conversation or mention any traffic issue in fort lee. out thatovernor points a mention of a traffic issue in fort lee would not have been memorable or meaningful to the governor. it is a common occurrence to have traffic issues, problems, in the bridges and tunnels. so it would not have registered with the governor. , andthe governor recalls the first time a registered with him this issue o

david wildstein is a close personal friends of bill barone, and it was david wildstein who brought bill barone into the port authority. yet you continue to do a question where the premise of this, that he was my close personal friend there for -- what led to soul searching was the fact that our administration disappointed the people of new jersey through the conduct of some of its members and that the entire premise of what i have tried to do as governor is to restore faith and trust in the government. and in the motivationings of the people who are doing the work on their behalf. and when you fall short of that, as we did, that causes soul searching. and what i have said in response to this question now a number of times is, there's no question that now i need to be much clearer to people about what my expectations are. that i need to be even more direct about what i will permit and what i won't permit. and to the extent i didn't do that. and that any of these people to conclude, that this was appropriate, that that's my failing too. so that's the result of my soul searching over the l

bridget ann kelly, david wildstein, and now the resigned david samson. all of those -- well, on the sidelines and not part of the report, which the governor says exonerates him. david lee miller is outside the state capital in trenton, new jersey, an interesting afternoon. >> indeed it was, shep averaged perhaps if this was a major motion picture you could call it the three faces of governor christie. at times he was humble, apologetic, and also at times very, very combative with some of the reporters. he said that this has been an unpleasant situation and then he add, it continues to be so. the big story of the afternoon, though, as you mentioned, the resignation of david samson. he is 74 years old. he has expressed an interest in stepping down to pursue other things in the past. the governor said he wanted him to stay on until after this re-election, but now it appears that he is going to step down. the governor has accepted his resignation about two hours ago. in terms of what else came out of the news conference, essentially an affirmation of the fin

here they are talking about, they are relaying a conversation that david wildstein had with the spokesman for the governor. a conversation in december. they said wildstein says he did not act alone, identifying kelly and stepien as others who knew in claiming he had e-mails to prove it. a public event during the lane realignment, and then they say a reference that the governor does not recall and even if actually made would not have registered with the governor in any event because he would not have considered it to be memorable. this is not -- they have a bunch of citations, a bunch of footnotes in here. there's no footnote. they're giving the credit for not knowing. they're giving the credit -- of course, he wouldn't be able to remember. if this was an independent investigation truly, there would be skepticism. they would not just take this at christie's word. it would be christie claims -- they talk to christie about this, they would say this is what the governor claims. if they couldn't substantiate it, they would say we couldn't substantiate it. instead, this is loaded language that

we haven't heard from david wildstein. oddly, this report which was commissioned by the governor, we don't see a transcript or really any details of what governor christie himself told his own investigators. i thought that was a quite a significant omission. there's very few if any direct quotes from governor christie about what he recalls here. in fact, in that one exchange with wildstein in which wildstein says he told the governor something about a traffic study or a traffic issue when they met on september 11th, the report quotes kevin o'dowd, the chief of staff, saying the governor does not recall the conversation. it doesn't directly quote where what governor christie remembered about the conversation. i thought that was an interesting and important omission. >> it's also interesting because when you read it, the language, michael isikoff, it almost sounds like a quote. it almost sounds like -- we have heard chris christie do the even if i did know i would have thought it was memorable because i'm the governor of the

david wildstein has said that at a 9/11 event he talked to you about traffic. 's a little ambiguous exactly what. did he? >> i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people i spoke to that day. i don't have any recollection of him saying anything. but i tell you this, he didn't say by the way, governor, i'm closing down some lanes on the george washington bridge to stick it to the mayor. is that okay? that i would remember. >> but critics remember the lure of christie's brash personal style. >> i'm governor, could you just shut up for a second? >> if you disagree, he's going to get you, he's going to stamp you out. he's going to seek revenge. >> the governor has certainly conduct eed himself over the la four years as the worst combination of a bully and boss. >> as you know, the word bully and bullying comes up over and over again. have you asked yourself, did i do anything to create the climate in which this happened? >> sure. i spent a lot of time the last 11 weeks thinking about what did i do, if anything, to contribute to th

. >> points the singer solely at bridget kelly and david wildstein. >> david wildstein went to bridget kelly for approval. >> why? >> we're not able to answer every question today. >> everyone is asking questions like what did you know and when did you know it? >> please let me answer this question first. we're not going to interrupt each other. >> this is not a federal investigation or a legislate i have investigation. >> this is chris christie's lawyer. >> this is from the governor's office. >> this was somebody chosen by christie. >> why? governor chris christie explain. >> the defense made its opening case today in the case of the people versus chris christie, the people who do not believe that chris christie is telling the truth about what happened at the george washington bridge. 42% of new jersey voters do not believe that chris christie is telling the truth. and 63% of nationwide voters do not believe that chris christie is telling the truth. if you are one of the 42% of new jersey voters who do not believe chris christie, the over $1 million of your money that he spent on his

the report says that david wildstein, the port authority official who oversaw the closures informed christie about it at a september 11th memorial while the closings were under way. that seems like a big deal, right, that the governor knew of the massive traffic? here is the answer. the report says the governor does not recall that conversation. so when did the governor find out? here is what he said just last month. >> who brought that to your attention? was it staff? >> no it was news accounts. >> but you read them personally or did something bring to it your attention? >> no i read it. i read it in "the wall street journal." >> he read it in "the wall street journal"? here is that article, published october 1st, several weeks after the closings. so did he learn about the bridge on the october 1st date or on september 11th as wildstein suggests? either way, today's report says it was just a traffic issue that wouldn't have raised any red flags. >> the governor points out that a mention of a traffic issue in fort lee would not have been memorable or meaningful to the governor. it's a common

david wildstein's lawyer has been out there pleading for a deal with the feds.ition here with bridge el kelly saying you have the report. i can break the tie. i can tell you who is telling the truth or not. one of the questions is in the trenton world. does anybody believe the idea that this was wildstein acting with kelly's approval and no one else would have been involved? how credible is that idea? >> it's not totally credible. the belief, if there had to be somebody else involved in the chain. not necessarily, the governor, i have to say. there is no evidence that the governor knew in advance about this that i have seen. but, it's hard to believe that just these two people cooked it up. a lot of the belief is that, and i have to be careful here, i don't have a lawyer. a lot of the belief is that bill stepien may have had a role in this. indeed, their relationship could have something to do with it. the problem with the report mastro put out is he speculated. it's a report used by a lawyer in summation, but not a fact finding report of the rigor that you woul

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david wildstein is a close personal friend of bill baroni. it was him who brought him into the port authority with my permission, but not at my suggestion. i know you continue to try to report the single back to every high school friend that i had to try to get them to save, were they friends? every one of them tells you that we were not. you continue to do a question where the premise of it is that he was my close personal friend, therefore the soul-searching. what led to soul-searching was the fact our ministries in this point the people of new jersey through the conduct of some of its members. that is the entire premise of what i have tried to do as governor, store faith and trust in the government. in the motivation of the people who do work on their behalf. when you fall short of that, as we did, that causes soul-searching. as i have said a number of times, it is a question that i need to the much clearer to people about what my expectations are. that i need to be even more direct about what i will permit and what i won't permit. that is

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. >> the report discredits bridget kelly and david wildstein. >> the attacks are so sexist and gras tu technical assistance. >> there's an odd insinuation that she's a jilted woman. >> this is the most elaborate one we've seen in a long, long time. >> the performance of the lawyer. >> he looked like he was enjoying the press conference. >> it was propaganda. it raises has questions as it answers. >> anybody who tries to game out the politics of this kind of stuff years in advance, that's a fool's errand. >> this has all the markings of a very carefully orchestrated rollout campaign. >> christie needed a credible narrative in order to take any presidential hopes forward. >> if chris christie survives this, chris christie's going to run for president. >>> i'm luke russert in for the great ago lex wagner. new jersey governor chris christie, he just wrapped up his first news conference in eight days, the first since his two-hour q&a on bridgegate back in january 9. it comes after an internal investigation that declared christie completely indicated in the planning and execution of four day

the focuses on david wildstein and bridget anne kelly. it says that wildstein seemed to be the instigator of this plan comparing it to so many other crazy ones that never got off the ground. it says that bill sptep eyen wa aware of the screen. it says the governor's version of the event rings true. wildstein says he discussed the lane closures with christie during a september 11th event which christie denies. >> david wildstein has said at a 9/11 event, he talked to you about traffic, a little ambiguous. did he? >> i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people i spoke to. we stood around and spoke briefly i don't have a recollection of him saying anything. he didn't say, hey, by the way, governor, i'm closing down some lanes in the george washington bridge to stick it to the mayor. is that okay? that, i would remember. >> even if wildstein did bring it up, it would not have been meaningful or memborable to the governor. christie is described over and over as being emotional with these meetings trying to

on the day that david wildstein resigned from the port authority, on the day mr. ein resigned from the port authority, it was paul who defended him. he was working on an issue that i brought to his attention, and it was turned into a political game. when people said it couldn't have been a real traffic study because the port authority engineers didn't know about it. paul said who cares about that, maybe they didn't know about it, because they [ bleep ] up everything. anyone who believed the lane closures was retaliatory in anyway, is crazy. you're a conspiracy theorist if you believe this was anything but a traffic study. paul has been the most vociferous defender of the cover-up, of the fake story about the fake traffic study. even when everyone else was saying that there was no traffic study. paul stood up not to just defend that story, but to take credit for it, it was me. until today. today paul nunziato took it all back. even though until today, he was the origin for the supposed traffic study. today his attorney says, actually, no, that was never true. this i

the report pins the plot on former christie age on bridget ann kelly and david wildstein. somehow tying their relationship to the lane closure, although the report doesn't explain how. christie critics are not buying it. friends of ms. kelly are calling the report sexist, saying it doubles down on a strategy of portraying ms. kelly as due police to us and ze pending on men for approval and stability. if you believe an emotional and stupid jilted woman caused bridgegate, i've got a bridge to sell you. steve carnanke has been extensively covering the bridgegate scandal. co-author of chris -- joan, i will go to you first, because you wrote what was in my brain and i love it when somebody who is an excellent writer can sort of encapsule lakap sul lacap sl. the crihristie attorney or the w firm hired by the governor's office is not just to blame his former allies but to shame them. >> it's a very weird strategy, we have seen it all along, she couldn't leave david wildstein alone. with this, this is like they took every sexist misogynistic cliche in the world and spewed it in th

on the day that david wildstein resigned from the port authority, the chris christieie ally who arrangedon the day mr. wildstein resigned from the port authority, it was paul who defended him. he was working on an issue that i brought to his attention, and it was turned into a political game. when people said it couldn't have been a real traffic study because the port authority engineers didn't know about it. paul said who cares about that, maybe they didn't know about it, because they [ bleep ] up everything. it was paul who said that anybody who believed the bridge lane closures were retaliatory in any way is a crazy person. if you believe that, his spokesman said i would suggest we're going to find hoffa's body on the leona helmsley in ft. lee. paul stood up not to just defend that story, but to take credit for it, it was me. until today. today paul nunziato took it all back. even though until today, he was said to be the origin of the whole idea for the supposed traffic study, today his attorney says actually, no, that was never true. this is amazing. he's told "the new york times,"

another, a member of the port authority, david wildstein, rumbling about getting immunity. until they do, the governor points out, this report clears him. >> this report says that i had no knowledge of it before it happened. and nor did i authorize it or have anything to do with it. and that's the truth. that's what i said on january 8th. >> reporter: does it make you feel clueless? does it make you feel like what was wrong with me? >> not clueless. but it certainly makes me feel taken advantage of. and also, more importantly, i feel like i let people down by not knowing. sometimes people do inexplicably stupid things. >> reporter: do you really believe they didn't do it because they thought that's what would please you? if you didn't know about it, they were going to try to please you? >> i can't get into what their motivations were. except to say, that anybody who really knows me, would not believe that doing something inexplicably stupid would please me. >> reporter: you say stupid. >> yeah. >> reporter: you hear the 911 calls, this is not just about stupidity. >> stupid

david wildstein is the person who originated this idea and orchestrated it. >> reporter: maestro said both screltly coordinated the closure of lanes that led to the george washington bridge, which led to stifling traffic backups in fort lee, new jersey, for five days starting last september 9. wildstein, who did not speak to investigators for this report and would not comment for us today, told christie aides, according to investigators, that he spoke with the governor about the lane closures on september 11. >> governor, christie. >> reporter: christie says he has no recollection of that. kelley also refused to talk with investigators. and some new jersey democrats say that's a problem. state senator loretta weinberg. >> the best thing i can say about it is they issued a premature report based upon incomplete information without being able to interview some of the main folks in this. >> reporter: last night, christie responded on his radio show. >> you don't just come to conclusions from interviews. there's lots and lots of documents that involve all those people. >> reporter: the re

the report is incomplete at this point, because we don't have david wildstein's account of what appears to be the critical conversation on september 11th when he's with governor christie, and according to two aides to the governor, in the report, wildstein told him something. >> right. >> about a traffic study, a traffic issue, exactly what he told him we don't know. we know the governor doesn't remember the conversation. but we clearly have to hear david wildstein's account before anybody can close the book on this matter. >> what stood out to you? because i know that you found some of this report actually enlightening. a lot of people have dismissed it. you did find some important -- >> look, there's a lot of granular detail in there. there's e-mails we hadn't seen before. it's very damning towards bridget kelly. it discloses at one point she asked an aide to actually delete an incriminating e-mail when there was an internal investigation going on. but at the end of the day, it is the governor's report, it's the governor's defense. you know, two things that they left out, to me, one i

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. >> so bridget kelly, bill stepien, bill baroni, david wildstein, that's mos

. >> bridget kelly, bill stepien, bill baroni, david wildstein. dawn zimmer, mayor sokolich all refused to be interviewed. >> those are some pretty key figures in this, that if they weren't interviewed, how do you come to that conclusion? >> well, because you don't just come to conclusions from interviews. there's lots and lots of documents that involve all those people which have been part of the public record and will be becoming part of the public record as we go forward. some of those folks, at least three of them, have asserted their constitutional right not to speak. if they continue to do that, no one will ever speak to them. >> so there may be questions surrounding this, would you concede, that we may simply never the answers to? >> right. i don't think any of the important questions. i think all the important questions will be answered. >> today christie's lawyer, randy mastro released the full 360-page report to the press. we have it. it is lengthy. despite governor christie's prediction, it doesn't address some of the most important que

while there is no question there is damning evidence against christie's appointee david wildstein and his deputy chief of staff bridget kelly, there is still no clear motive as to why they carried out this act of what appears to be political payback. as report states, what motived this act is not clear. but what seems clear is what these lawyers set out to do here, exonerate christie by attacking wildstein and kelly. and moments ago abc's "world news" with diane sawyer with chris christie. >> when these things were reported i said this can't possibly be true, because who would do something like that. sometimes people do inexplicably stupid things. so that's what makes it so hard then as the guy in charge, none of it made any sense to me. and to some extent, still does not. >> loretta weinberg is a democratic state senator from new jersey and a co-chair of the committee investigating the lane closures. and brian murphy is an investigator and professor. the euphemism thrown at this whole mess by these lawyers obviously trying to make their guy look good. but then to trash not just wilds

who resigned back in december with david wildstein. christie talked about his press last conference about how bill baroni had actually been talking for a long -- he'd actually decided earlier, much earlier, that he'd be stepping aside at the end of 2013. christie today talking about david samson basically says, actually david samson said a year ago that he was ready to step aside. you know, as he played in the clip there, that he's getting older, wants to do other things with his time. christie actually persuaded him to stay on this long. so we heard sort of the same thing come up twice now when there's been an abrupt seeming resignation from the port authority. >> melissa, let me ask you about the tenner. you were in the room today. for those of us who do not watch -- had not watched chris christie's press conferences before, with great regularity and in-depth attention before the bridge-gate scandal began, is this kind of relationship which seems incredibly adversarial, is that relationship he has with the press par for the course? w

we treated both david wildstein and bridget kelly the same. they deserved the assessment that we gave both of them about their personal conduct and about their actions. exactly the same way because they violated the public trust. and that's what the evidence showed, george. all of it relevant to not only their consciousness and guilt, but their culpability. and in bridget kelly's case, if i say may say, bridget kelly not only sent the yeem, the ulterior motive. >> what is that motive? >> i'm glad you asked that. we say what we know and don't know. we can't establish the motive because we didn't have the chance to question kelly and wildstein. but it was obvious to target the mayor of fort lee because of their exchanges. bridget kelly not only sent the e-mail that said time for some traffic problems in fort lee, she then, after the fact, when the governor sent his chief of staff to find out whether she knew about this beforehand, she called a subordinate that night and asked her to destroy incriminating evidence. she is at the heart of the prob

but the critics say that doesn't mean anything because you couldn't talk to david wildstein, or bridgetb, certain people who are the focus of the investigation like kelly, like wildstein, they have taken their fifth amendment. they're not talking to me or the legislator or the u.s. attorney. >> did you get to see their e-mails? >> but, we saw many of their e-mails and we saw the private e-mails and texts of the governor. lieutenant governor, his current -- >> did he hand over his iphone to you? >> absolutely. and let me tell you this, megyn, the fact of the matter is we look at the hard evidence. we look to see what the documents show. and the hard evidence shows studethe governor had no role in this whatsoever, and knew nothing about it. >> the other thing i want fto gt to, the one piece of the report that is not good for governor christie, his aide, david wildstein claims he did inform the governor about the lane closures at a september 11th memorial. and i know the governor says he doesn't remember it, but one of the criticisms is they did tell the governor biabout it. >> i understan

and we further found, based on our investigation, that david wildstein is the person who originated thisa, and orchestrated it. david wildstein went to bridget kelly for approval in the governor's office and, that they had an ulterior motive for implementing that decision, to in some way target mayor sock lynch in for the leigh. we're not able to answer every question today. we're not able to answer what the ulterior motive was but we can say that the evidence does not establish that ulterior motive was to target the mayor because he did not endorse governor christie for re-election. in fact there is substantial contrary evidence. in fact, the evidence shows that both the governor's office and the christie campaign knew as early as march, 2013, that mayor soklich would not be endorsing the governor re-election yet by his own account he con inr tinned to have good relations with the christie administration and indeed was on a list of mayors being considereds considered for honorary appointments by the governor as recently as mayor 2013. we further find when the governor became aware that

the report focuses on the -- the blame on david wildstein of the port authority and bridget ann kellyn seemed to be the instigator of the plan, considering so many crazy ones he had before that never got off the ground. >> that's in the report. >> yeah. and it says fired campaign manager bill steppian was aware of the scheme. the findings referred to a romantic relationship between he and bridget kelly. >> oh, my goodness. >> the report fire walls the governor himself saying the version of events rings true. wildstein, however, claims he discussed the lane closures with christie during a september 11th event, and this is what chris christie denies, of course. >> david wildstein has said that a 9/11 event he talked to you about traffic. it's a little ambiguous exactly what. did he? >> yeah, i don't have any recollection of that, diane. david was one of hundreds of people i spoke to that day. we stood around and spoke briefly that day. i don't have any recollection of him saying anything. i'll tell you this -- i'll tell you what he didn't say, he didn't say, hey, by the way, governor, i

one, david wildstein. he told the governor about the lane closures at the 9/11 memorial event but governor christie says he doesn't remember that. then there's bridge it kelly, the one-time chief of staff. she sent the e-mail, time for problems for fort lee. the city's mayor had not endorsed the governor but they claim there's zero evidence the targeting had to do with the nonendorsement. governor christie denied any involvement in the of this, and we have not seen any evidence that links him directly or indirectly to the lane closures. the new jersey taxpayers are picking up the tab for this investigation. christie's administration hiring a lawyer to investigate the administration for $1 million. eric shawne has details. >> reporter: 345 pages, paid for by the taxpayers of new jersey, and during the news conference today, lead lawyer says there is no evidence implicating the governor at all. no texts, e-mails, and the governor denied any involvement. >> there's not a shred, not a shred of hard evidence th

i'm going to be satisfied if i hear from david wildstein, when i hear from bill baroni.ng at this table yesterday. brian thompson, a report er for wnbc, showed a number of photographs showing chris christie walking around 9/11 site with all of these people and then we have a reporter in "the new york times" yesterday that they spent a long time in this air-conditioned place sequestered from everyone else. we don't know what conversations took place. it is entirely possible chris christie had nothing to do with it. >> some general fairness and objectivity when you're looking at allegations because any of us, any of us, if we were subject to allegations, constant media attention with no corroboration on many of these things, you just want fairness. >> when you put out a report like this, we have to squeeze a break in here. we have to squeeze a break in here. we will get you in after this. andrea in after this. and i do want to get back to this news out of hoboken because it's not just about chris christie. i think this news out of hoboken may suggest something about anothe

shortly after being appointed, david wildstein walked into a colleague's office at the port authorityeadquarters on park avenue south in manhattan and gestured toward the window. you know, that used to be tamidy hall. that is a seat of all corruption in new york. waiting to be, wildstein added, and the port authority is right here. you have anecdotes like this and it does not do a lot to stand the stench, can you stand the stench? to stench the rumors about just how corrupt this administration might have been. >> reporter: well, look. it is useful to remember new jersey has a long, rich tradition of politics that doesn't exactly meet the common cause standard. but i think from christie's point of view, the real yardstick here is are there going to be criminal charges, is there going to be testimony that points the finger at him directly? and i do want to take a little issue with how you've crafted this, alex. you referred to kelly and stepien as team christie. and i'm not quite sure that in the case of bridget kelly, for instance, her interests are exactly consistent with the governor

and furthermore, there is in this report an illusion to a conversation between david wildstein and chris christie while the bridges were closed where they may have discussed the traffic. >> on september 11th, and he said i have no recollection of it. >> also, and notice the language that wildstein says -- >> this is a picture, 9/11 ceremony, last 9/11 in the middle of the traffic study. that is a picture of christie and wildstein. there's never any question about the fact they met there. there's a real question about whey they said and what christie said in defense of him, if he said we're doing a traffic study, he said i wouldn't have remembered that. the question is, did he say we're doing a traffic study because we want to get back at the mayor? >> when this is other there will probably be no smoking gun, and the decision the voters will have to make is is that okay? that there's no smoker gun. >> attacking the media, smart thing to do, fair thing to do. attacking and smearing bridget kelly, not smart. >> thank you, panel. see you next week. up next, our power player of the week. an u

we further found based on our investigation that david wildstein is the person who originated this ideand orchestrated it, he went to bridget kelly for approval in the governor's office, and that they had an ulterior moment for implementing that decision to some some way -- we're not able to answer every question today. we're not able to answer what that ulterior motive was. so was to target mayor sock olitch, because he did not endorse governor christie for reelection. in fact there's substantial contrary evidence. in fact, the evidence shows that both the governor's office and chrissy campaign new as early as march 2013 that mayor sokolich would not be endorsing the governor for reelection, yet by his own account he continued to have good relations with the christie administration and indeed was on a list of mayors being considered for honorary appointments by the governor as recently as may. 2013. we further find that when the governor became aware that bridget kelly in his office was involved in the decision to close those lanes, he took appropriate action, he fired bridget kelly, a

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. >> which kelly said to christie's point man at the port authority, david wildstein.ght up with bridget kelly late this afternoon as she walked with her attorney. >> bridget? high. mike isikoff with nbc news. i just want to ask a few questions. how are you holding up through all this? >> i'm okay, thank you. >> can you tell us how difficult an experience this has been for you? >> i'm not going to comment. >> would you say that there is more to the story that people haven't heard? >> well, joining me right now is nbc news national investigative correspondent michael isikoff, and "the washington post's" chris cillizza. i want that talk about the law and the politics of this case. first of all, what was your sense of bridget kelly? she is so much the emblematic figure, if not the empathetic figure in this case. michael? >> i got to say, chris, she looked anguished. she looked almost traumatized. we're two months into this. but you could just tell by looking at her in that brief encounter and looking at her face that she is dreading this entire experience. but what is sur

what is the evidence that david wildstein is talking about? we won't know until we hear from them.hey're not talking. so, look, that is not to say there won't be some interesting information in that they've gotten -- the outside lawyers from the law firm headed by randy mastro former deputy mayor of new york, tough, hard-nosed former federal prosecutor has had access to all the governors', mals. all everybody in his office's e-mails. their personal blackberries, their personal iphones. so one would expect that there's going to be a lot of new info for us to chew over in this report. but it's hard to see how it's going to be anything close to the final word. >> mike, one more question for you which is while there may be stuff for everyone to chew on and while this may be comprehensive in some form or fashion, it would also seem like a convenient way to get taxpayers to pick up the bill and at the same time figure out who knows what and where they are in that knowledge if you're team christie? does it not? >> sure, and i think you're going to see a lot of questions about the taxpayer

that i would remember. >> another thing to be mindful of here is david wildstein did not -- let me repeat that, he did not take part in this investigation. he did not speak with investigators as did a number of other key people who also refused to cooperate. >> david miller, live in new jersey. thank you. >>> now to obamacare, some senate dems came up with a plan to try and fix it. changes making it more affordable by offering a new copper plan, lower cost high-deductible health care option they believe will spur competition. they want to allow states to be able to sell health insurance across state lines. plus expand the option for voluntary coverage for businesses with fewer than 100 workers, not just 50 workers. they want to make enrollment easier by allowing folks to sign up directly with insurance companies. a democrat from montana joins me live from capitol hill. great to have you, senator. >> great to be with you, gretchen, thank you. >> thanks so much. lets talk a little about this plan by six or seven democrats. do you agree with it? do you support it? >> absolutely take a look a