we will hear from dbi. >> good evening. matthew green representing dbi i have occurrence with the permit. upons dbi received come plain in october of 21 about the structure and also illegal unit. the complaints was reassigned 3 different inspectors over time. we sent letters to the property owner asking for access to the property. i don't see record of gaining access. when the permit before you was process said the description of the work stated to comply with the complaints this is wrong should have been caught at that time you can't comply with the complaint it it is an allegation you comply with the notice of violation. we should have caught that and asked the overwhelm to provide access to the property. we would have issued a notice of violation. i don't know if there is a third unit or not if there is i say that the submitted plan was inaccurate. i would ask the board grant time for dbi to have a site visit and the experience it grant access to determine the cannot property of the you had questions the

so i recalled dbi. and so -- i will stick with when we agreed to which is dbi will do an inspection they will come up with whatever the sponsor needs to get done and you will close the issue? with regard to the fees. i'm hearing they are not penalties. thank you very much. for this information. they are not penalties they are not fines. correct something >> yes. they are staff time. is there a possibility so that and this has nothing with the case in whether we are going to move this rehear this. >> i stated my point of view at this point. just for my information for to help the psyche of the satisfaction of our customer who is a member of the citizenry of san francisco, is there an invoice backum staff time that you can provide him, please. to give you satisfaction that his 3 thousand dollars is actually going can reconcile to staff time and hours, please. can that be done? please? >> yes. thank you for the question. my recollection of the hearing on august 17th the inspection should take place for the

matthew green with dbi and chris buck be public works. the guidelines request you turn off all phones and electronics. no eating or drinking in the hearing room. the rowels of presentation for cases continued appellates permit hold and ares respondents given 3 minutes to present and people affiliated with them include comments within the 3 minutes. members of public not guilty affiliated have up to 3 minutes to address the board and no rebuttal during public comment. jurisdiction request 3 minutes each with no rebuttal you will get a warning 30 seconds before your time is up. 4 votes are required. if you have questions about requesting a rehearing the board rowels or schedules e mail the staff at board of appeals. public access are of importance to the board. sfgov.org is streaming live and the 8 to receive comment for each item on today's agenda will sfgovtv providing closed captioning for the meeting to watch on tv go to channel 78. tell be rebroadcast on friday on channel 26. a link is at sfgov.org/boa. public comment can be provide in

the bic and dbi's plan to reduce the 30 million dollars operating loss at dbi. result of dbi internal corruption investigation. has a report been issued? if not why not? the specific challenges dbi the specific changes dbi implements and the current year to address the internal control weak thinks out lined in the city controller's integrity review of dbi's permitting and inspepgz process; the slide on the screen is page 19 of the controller's report. >> mayor breed's response to the controller report was to issue an executive directive to reform dbi. mayor challenged dbi and the bic indirectly to take actions to prevent misconduct. improve processes and make the department more effective at providing services for san francisco residence dents. i agree with the mayor when she said the people of san francisco deserve better. thank you very much. thank you is there anguish public comment. there does not appear any anremotely.yaremotelremotely. next is item 12 and 13. i will read both them. discussion and possible action on the annual performance evaluation for the

we will hear from dbi. like to address the per mir authorizes w admit front build thanksgiving is in the true it says the work authorized is the, du the exit pass and grounds floor of the ad sxushgs any other work will river a separate permit the >> reporter: is if you enter through a garage or required exit will go through a garage it has to have been 10 foot wide space and the garage has to be fully sprinklered. this plan shows the striping 10 foot wide and existing sprinklers that proves not to be the case it would river to get a sprinkler permit. i'm available for questions. i don't see questions. commissioners this merit is submitted. >> okay. commissioners. i want to call on commissioner lopez hoe is too quiet tonight and we are make him work he gets paid the big bucks. commissioner lopez would you like to get us started. i think it is one of these we had a couple before. why our hands are tied. due to the issues preemption issues that have been energid by a number of speakers throughout the evening,

issues where i felt that the developer/applicant and the person in construction didn't know much about dbi and the subtleties of how it's interpreted in our city so it's helpful for us to have it spelled out. there's nothing lost and nothing inappropriate about it. in addition to that, i feel the request made about removing the spiral stay on the roof deck doesn't explain what we were asking for the replacement of the open space in form of a porch which by minimum needs to be one hundred square feet and a little bit more which requires setting back of the front wall, the south facing wall by nine feet roughly speaking, so that's easy to do. nothing lost and we're not making the conditions harder and we're interpreting them but we want it spelled out. it's in your department's interest when it comes to follow up and avoiding misunderstands. anybody else on the commissioners? >> i do not see her on the -- commissioner ruiz, is there anything you want to add? there she is. i didn't see your name. >> that's okay. >> i think, commissioner imperial and yourself, commissioner moore really explain

at this point it's an issue between dbi and the owner. we have no control over the building once we relinquish it and we target itsa a hazard and units be aware of this building if you get something here and over time you know the buildings you're going to get a fire in eventually and do pre-fire planning. you know what the hazards are so when it happens at two in the morning like it did you know what you're up against and you know how much risk you're able to take and the challenge with that fire was that chief baker knew it was a dangerous situation but he also knew he had a occupied multi-building next door and if he takes a defensive attack on the previous fire building the occupied building is going to suffer extensive damage and displace those people so with the battalion chief make a attack and determination if they could get it quickly or transition to a defensive and the actions paid dividends and a great job. >> can the office of building inspection not order the destruction of a building? >> i believe they can but has to be dam

the bic and dbi's plan to reduce the 30 million dollars operating loss at dbi.ult of dbi internal corruption investigation. has a report been issued? if not why not? the specific challenges dbi the specific changes dbi implements and the current year to address the internal control weak thinks out lined in the city controller's integrity review of dbi's permitting and inspepgz process; the slide on the screen is page 19 of the controller's report. >> mayor breed's response to the controller report was to issue an executive directive to reform dbi. mayor challenged dbi and the bic indirectly to take actions to prevent misconduct. improve processes and make the department more effective at providing services for san francisco residence dents. i agree with the mayor when she said the people of san francisco deserve better. thank you very much. thank you is there anguish public comment. there does not appear any anremotely.yaremotelremotely. next is item 12 and 13. i will read both them. discussion and possible action on the annual performance evaluation for the bic

at this point it's an issue between dbi and the owner. we have no control over the building once we relinquish it and we target itsa a hazard and units be aware of this building if you get something here and over time you know the buildings you're going to get a fire in eventually and do pre-fire planning. you know what the hazards are so when it happens at two in the morning like it did you know what you're up against and you know how much risk you're able to take and the challenge with that fire was that chief baker knew it was a dangerous situation but he also knew he had a occupied multi-building next door and if he takes a defensive attack on the previous fire building the occupied building is going to suffer extensive damage and displace those people so with the battalion chief make a attack and determination if they could get it quickly or transition to a defensive and the actions paid dividends and a great job. >> can the office of building inspection not order the destruction of a building? >> i believe they can but has to be dam

it's a farmer in the note on a dbi mission to find them too fast. and you don't need to include one human reserve. i don't ever volvo water. he has a truck, but it's low and fuel, which means a folk lama to walk through the car. got your stock run, is your doctor so i'm not ever going to see new get this 5 years. daquan taylor, his bedroom for his farm. he has a 1000 liters of water in the back of his old pickup truck with cattle. ah drunk has hid botswana hot and recent years, especially in 20192020 here. oh no, no, no, no bird. norman lives. no brother, no war, nothing. nothing is 1st time this thing happens to me with monty has to constantly search for new sources of water from the different foods in the area. but his local sources increasing, drawing up, and it's costing him tenuous dollars per day in petrol alone have to have to tend to transfer to a 100 under put up a day and the big day the river bed is visible from a distance. but when monte reaches the bank, he's disappointed. the river water is gone down. this drive is furnished, ah, this

and say they do a build out with dbi, do they get the fee for that new location or not? does that qualify? if they are adding a new location? completely a new like number. >> and if they qualify and meet the criteria they should be able to. >> cool. >> thank you. i love this program and delighteded to work with supervisor ronnin. i guess my understanding is idea came out of conversations with the small business commission. i'm biassed toward is a good program temperature is a good program. a great program. hai recall from the original presentations is that we were expecting the out liin year one. i think 5 million the original. ownership the number i will say in our upon report to the board we were surprised how little was spent under this program. part of that was there was not good information when we were creating this program that was what we worked together on was why is it hard to figure out how much small businesses are paying to open up a business. and we have seen a lot of insight and partners closely with the office of small business and permit center to unders

they actually end up having much more problems or circuit breakers. dbi both have to be changed quite significantly. and now overload circuits are also being changed. so we have power surges when the power comes back on. and then you having equipment that takes us a long time to get, replace, going out, and then we again at the disadvantage and mercy of treating all patients, right. and very quickly on a petition you're calling on the government to do something. what you want from the government very quickly. one, i want the government to exempt hospitals from being load shit. it's happening in the western cape, which is one province of from south africa. that doesn't locate the hospitals. i want our government to exempt all government hospitals. big public hospitals from low chilling to protect the patients. that's what i'm asking for. all right, professor adam mont and johannesburg, thanks for the work you're doing and thanks for taking your time to speak to us. thank you so much. now load, shedding is a dread term in south africa right now. the power rationing is affecting homes, p

he was with the overpowered by her security officers argentina's president, give more details in dbi address, getting up better money. christina remains alive because the gun which had 5 bullets in it. my did not fire even though the trigger had been pulled out. i couldn't see due to her reasons as not yet being technically confirmed. ill take this is extremely serious. is the most serious instant that has happened since we restored our democracy. the gunman has been arrested and his weapon seized. thousands of protesters have been gathering outside the white president's home for days now and a show of support as she faces a corruption dro fernandez stands accused of defrauding the state of an estimated $1000000.00. while she was argentina's president from 2007 to 2015, she has denied all judges. the alleged attempt on her life a short of support for her. in a beer, christina is life or you know, somebody, i guess something happened to her when i die with her. i just can't believe it. it's really difficult. and with what, but a bow, unconcerned, but you know, i'm in the nation and ra

i would like to say that while these certain dbi and other you know use and behaviors do happen i think a certain amount is inevitable in the large public facilities they are public. and you know not like someone is walk nothing the door. when are you doing here? the default is a person has the right to be there. they could be walking through and taking a short cut to the other side versus a private facility who can just try to keep people from walking in. it is a challenge. >> yes. why but we -- have -- >> and a good you know part mership and plan with venders and the various e mails sworn officers that assist us. it is a challenging issue and not something you bring to zero. it is a top of mind all the time. and always look for example suggestions from this board and all our various stake holders for strategies for consideration on how to make that experience better for customers. >> thank you. i wanted give you the opportunity to speak to it. it sounds like you are doing what you can given the circumstances of being a public garage. >> thank you. director. >> i made the motion. >> pu

would you see a revised drawing set before this moves on to construction and dbi.s there more to be collected? >> yes. >> you will be sure there is no misinterpretation between first and second and third floor or glass railing or something like that? >> yes. i will make sure. >> i do not like to argue, but i do like us to be as diligent about what we say and do as we can. thank you. >> very good, commissioners. we should open up public comment. members of the public, if you wish to address the commission, you have three minutes to do so. >> public speaker: my name is jerry dratler, last week was not the first time that the memo failed to follow the wishes of the planning commission. however, last week was the first time this planning commission acknowledged this problem and the planning commission is to be commended. in july 2019, mr. winslow also issued a false action review memo where they approved a building permit for 17th avenue. the motion that was approved 5-1 july 25, 2019, was to "take dr and revert the property back to its previous condition" please note

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affected by western restrictions on the supply of russian energy for food and fertilizers to world market dbi. and in this call is that even our offer to trust for 300000 tons of russian fertilizers, blog in european ports due to sanctions to countries in need for free. i want to emphasize this remains an answer them. so it is against his background that the letter has been written right. and we have seen, of course, a powerful call for people to address this to put politics aside and avert this catastrophe. now it seems like politics, it's still playing a big role in allowing this brain to get to where it needs to be, which is really sad because this issue needs to be addressed because millions of people are on the verge of starvation. or that's it for now, here on our t international. thanks so much for joining us here and spending some time with us here in moscow. we are back soon with more of your will ah ah tone. welcome to wells apart. the here is journey. one of the most recurrent mythological themes in human history invariably brings the protagonist back to where it all began. who in

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the dbi inspection permits would be included. but i understands over the counter may be -- is a loose could be a loose term that could create confusion. no objection here if you believe striking that would make it clearer that those types of permits are still on the table and included. that is fine on our end. >> over the counter, on the table it is surfaces. >> [laughter]. >> there you go. out of the picture. >> okay. >> i have a question. >> keep on going i have some, too. >> that was my substantive question. i have nitty-gritty textural questions about drafting. i discussed them both with the city attorney one is proceeding, which it is what that is. defined with a reference to the california code of regulations. if you look at the definition it only means permit or entitlement for use. excludeings administrative enforcement. and i think if that is the definition we gutted half of the point of the law. the city attorney, deputy city attorney and i spoke about it yesterday. i think she has a suggestion for amending the definiti

i had the experience of working for 20 years at dbi and planning for tracking systems and they still don't have it right and it's part of what is going to help restore and instill trust, the transparency, the immediacy, the access. there's several things i really love about it. the fact that when someone inputs something new it gets immediately notified to the investigator. that's will be crucial so things don't sit around. i asked the question that you asked and do a version in the department and make it accessible to us because i think it would be really helpful to answer some of our questions and keep on track. to that point i really like the top line where you see within the system of where things are. at some point i know that some of my fellow commissioners when we're looking at updates on things it's like it's helpful to know a time range and you can be halfway through something but if the end goal is a million miles away it's helpful to sort of think about what the timeframe is if that's possible. i know it's hard to know what you don't know and who you have left to do, but h

and say they do a build out with dbi, do they get the fee for that new location or not? a new location? completely a new like number. >> and if they qualify and meet the criteria they should be able to. >> cool. >> thank you. i love this program and delighteded to work with supervisor ronnin. i guess my understanding is idea came out of conversations with the small business commission. i'm biassed toward is a good program temperature is a good program. a great program. hai recall from the original presentations is that we were expecting the out liin year one. i think 5 million the original. ownership the number i will say in our upon report to the board we were surprised how little was spent under this program. part of that was there was not good information when we were creating this program that was what we worked together on was why is it hard to figure out how much small businesses are paying to open up a business. and we have seen a lot of insight and partners closely with the office of small business and permit center to understand are there businesses that should

>> we work with dbi quite a bit but they look at the plumbing. if they were to suggest to people but we don't deal with building code. >> thank you. >> any other comments or questions? >> seeing none, thank you. public comment, please. >> members of the public wishing to provide public comment, please press no. 3. >> seeing none, mr. moderator, do we have any callers with their hands raised? >> madam secretary, we have one caller in the queue. >> public speaker: commission, i want you to pay attention to what i'm saying and the flowery language of the gentleman who made the present, he doesn't know what he is talking about. we have doctors now doing biomonitoring. i'm going to ask the doctors to provide the two gentlemen at the sf puc to get the results of their work from the blood and the urine by the monitoring. they fought for the community benefit so our children are not compromised. no, the community benefits were controlled by two crooks dwayne jones and dallas. people outside have $300,000 grants. the responsibility for lead size in the ho

and say they do a build out with dbi, do they get the fee for that new location or not? does that qualify? if they are adding a new location? completely a new like number. >> and if they qualify and meet the criteria they should be able to. >> cool. >> thank you. i love this program and delighteded to work with supervisor ronnin. i guess my understanding is idea came out of conversations with the small business commission. i'm biassed toward is a good program temperature is a good program. a great program. hai recall from the original presentations is that we were expecting the out liin year one. i think 5 million the original. ownership the number i will say in our upon report to the board we were surprised how little was spent under this program. part of that was there was not good information when we were creating this program that was what we worked together on was why is it hard to figure out how much small businesses are paying to open up a business. and we have seen a lot of insight and partners closely with the office of small business and permit center to unders

i would like to say that while these certain dbi and other you know use and behaviors do happen i think a certain amount is inevitable in the large public facilities they are public. and you know not like someone is walk nothing the door. when are you doing here? the default is a person has the right to be there. they could be walking through and taking a short cut to the other side versus a private facility who can just try to keep people from walking in. it is a challenge. >> yes. why but we -- have -- >> and a good you know part mership and plan with venders and the various e mails sworn officers that assist us. it is a challenging issue and not something you bring to zero. it is a top of mind all the time. and always look for example suggestions from this board and all our various stake holders for strategies for consideration on how to make that experience better for customers. >> thank you. i wanted give you the opportunity to speak to it. it sounds like you are doing what you can given the circumstances of being a public garage. >> thank you. director. >> i made the motion. >> pu

we are asked to approve a building that when it ultimate low guess through the sausage factory and dbi it becomes something different. we are struggling with too many issues given the hundreds of comments the minimum i expect them what is in front of us is something that meets in a way to minimum expectations. no audio. of an approval of a building why we are not having the details we are not substitute for the building department and fire department to look at the final grain of code compliant building or with air function in building be this is what our responsibility is here we are working hard to have that discussion and me asking architect lum on his person to me relative to the decisions i make. my next question. thank you mr. lum i appreciate it. next question goes to mr. winslow. what would a 45% roar yard not looking at reariard average look in this case would you tell mow what that would look like? yield a building 33 feet deep from the front. the concern building is 42 foot 3 inches from the face of its front property lineful 45% roar yard is 27 feet deep on this lot. the bl