we had a deep sea a deep sea deep sea shock. one weekend we had a tariff shock the next weekend. this is the way it's going to go for this year and probably for four years. so you know market participants should expect volatility in the end. you've got to make your own judgment about whether the president is going to end up on net winning from this america winning from this or not. you know, he's he's a pretty shrewd guy. so you may not like every move he makes, but probably the direction is the right direction. we are going to have a trade conflict with china. bet on it. if you're a company involved with china, get out. i also would be nervous. >> get out. meaning what if you're apple? what if you're starbucks? >> well, you know the you're a you're a hostage. i don't know how else to say it. and you know, you want to invest in a hostage. go right ahead. i wouldn't you've also got a challenge with with europe ahead. and that's going to get very, very messy. i think europe is somewhere between a canada and mexico who ultimately are going to be cooperative, and europe, which has to

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for deep seek to have if they're using them, they're not telling us.led his so called open source which means others can go and look at its coding and see how they got to where they did. open ai and other like google's deep mind u.s. companies are closed source. does this suggest open source is a relative advantage in the ai race? >> well, met at the facebook parent uses open source stupid they believe it's an advantage. these innovations diffuse so quickly everyone adopts them and then the innovate on them. it's very hard to keep secrets. there is a lot of evidence but that open source will speed some progress here and that makes a difference to end users and customers. only either side is going to win the race either as the government policy will stifle these innovations they will end up the losers because of their own actions i do not think we can win this race by locking up our technology i think you can lose it by doing that. paul: does not suggest to you the biden administration policy and export controls on sophisticated chips is basically not w

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of deep seek, for example, as people are starting to go and use deep sea, it's incredible.ou got you got a massive peak in the number of downloads for deep sea. how many people were using deep seek at your own peril. but you know, so it tells you that as things become more accessible, it will be used to in a more aggressive fashion. >> i mean, the other thing, we're sort of reassessing our, you know, data center businesses, power around those. you came with a stock pick for us. that is a data data center. play what you call under the radar nebulous. >> is that it? >> yes, yes. >> tell me more. >> and it's a really interesting under the radar. i call it under the radar because it actually has almost no coverage on the street. it was it used to be a former. it was the management of the former yandex, which was the google of russia. you know, they've basically corralled them. they've they've started a new company called nebulous. and nebulous is an ai data center play. in november of last year, the nasdaq called them and said, we're going to we're basically listing you in thre

that's not just true with deep seek. in 2023, the chinese telecommunications giant huawei released a phone with a seven nanometer chip, a kind that had been explicitly banned by u.s. export controls. there is some evidence that after years of sclerosis, china's chip makers have responded to american bans by becoming more innovative. in a fascinating recent interview, liang wenfeng, the ceo of deep seek, also argues that his engineers are more motivated by doing research than making money, and seems to contrast that attitude with the one prevalent in silicon valley, which is all about maximizing revenue. providing cloud services, generating cash flow demis hassabis, who leads google's deepmind and won the nobel prize for its scientific breakthroughs, is said to have fought to keep his team in london far from silicon valley so that they can focus on basic research. the first question that deep seek raises is can the u.s. stop china from advancing along the technology frontier? some argue that deep seek shows that export co

free chap, bolt deep sick and it's already surpassed chat g p. c. as the most downloaded app on apple in the us. that's caused stokes related to us a i companies to take a deep plunge. one of its more stays in the past 2 years and here's why there's a chinese start up the deep sleep now putting pressure on the us tech names, new a i bought from chinese, started a, b. c is a wake up call for americas tech industry. panic markets are always enough to turn heads and stop a huge wave of conspiracy theories. right? told me 2 experts came out of the woodwork to say no, it's the chinese don't i rode they, they going to senior data and give it to banking. we should be alarmed, we've seen time and again how beijing weaponized, as it's tech, dominance for surveillance, control and course, and both domestically and abroad. so i'll consume is really afraid of the big bad wolf in beijing, accessing that info. is that any evidence to support this fee among going? you can see that the consumer in the united states simply do not believe this rhetoric that is coming

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deep seek wasn't created for $6 million.y it does anyone truly believe it only cost $6 million? two things probably will happen they stole the ai infrastructure from our americans who create a really, really good system with its open ai and the funding really came from the ccp. the ccp is funding this is your data in any way, shape, form safe? no. one of their side note has been reported this to dee deep seek s created by hedge fund guy in china to short stock he can make a boatload of money to pay pay attention to that story in the coming days. >> that market cap for a while they help sort that out. coming up, praise the lord white genz is turning to the man upstairs. do you have a life insurance policy you no longer need? now you can sell your policy - even a term policy - for an immediate cash payment. we thought we had planned carefully for our retirement. but we quickly realized we needed a way to supplement our income. if you have $100,000 or more of life insurance, you may qualify to sell your policy. don't cancel or

. >> all of this deep sea. >> going on. with the poor performance of chip stocks lately, what would you tell. investors to be on the lookout. >> for there? >> well. >> two things. first of all, i think they. >> are gaining. >> on intel. >> so those are. >> some markers. >> that we would. >> like to. >> to watch very closely. and why do we care. >> well. >> spending on regular. >> pcs and. servers and that kind of stuff. >> not in the. >> ai realm. >> but. >> just regular data. >> centers comes. >> and goes in cycles. >> so you have. >> to. >> be patient and wait. >> i think a lot of it dollars. >> are going into. >> more ai oriented expenditures. >> and probably. >> sucking all the air out of regular computing. >> whatever that looks like. >> so be. a patient investor. and you'll probably get rewarded. the other. >> thing is. >> they do have a tolerable a better than. tolerable product for ai because they've long been a provider for gpus. they were always the number two person. to nvidia. and sometimes their chip beat them.

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deep 6r1 ai model.about $6 million, is what the company says now, my colleague chloe and i have been reporting this morning about the cost of running deep 6r1 model. we've spoken to a number of companies rosen a us, us listed technology group, has spoken to us. they are trying to disrupt the auto insurance sector. they've shared some insurance as well as ai data with us. what it basically shows is that the company processed about 600,000 insurance claims in the third quarter of last year. now, according to our calculations, if they were using openai's latest or one ai model, that would cost them about $36,000 to process all of these insurance claims. now, if they switch to deep 6r1 ai model, that would be about $17,000. that's a 50% drop in running costs for rosen if they simply swap one ai model with another. >> wow. that's tremendous savings. and i'm sure that example is you can see examples like that across industries. is it just about cost when it comes to switching to deep 6r1 from some of the incu

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so risk being left behind in january, the chinese stone top deep seek, disrupted wall street and silicon valley stokes published when it launched a cheaper and more efficient chat model to rival american competitors such as chat g p t. so who's winning the a, i will, or all the battle lines just being drawn, we'll get to, i guess, in a moment. the 1st this report from joe levins, tech executives, entrepreneurs and well laid is our empowers for an international summit on artificial intelligence. it aims to lay the groundwork for governing the rapidly advancing technology which has almost limitless power. we are still in the early days that i already believe a i will be the most profound shift of my life times. the competition is fierce and global powers erasing to play leading roles. us president, donald trump, has been filed a half a trillion dollar infrastructure plant. well, you know, mosque is made a bit to buy open a gallery lodging. an offer was declined. so in french president emanuel mcclare has code for the removal of red tape and announced a $100000000000.00 investment in the in

the release of deep seek a i from a chinese company should be a wake up call for our industries that we need to be laser focused on competing to n, cuz we have to greater side just and the world in china is being integrated into school curriculums. to ensure future generations can take advantage of the opportunities to technology offers fucking powers, military experts have debated as battlefield applications. you have uh well games. do you remember where the whereabouts we go to the computer? you have a all the, i did the, the tell me that's our series while the computers set up a, a war and nuclear war. so yes, it could happen as a eyes, on least on the menu, demanding regulations. others want assurances, the technology will use to sell bigger problems, such as climate change. joel evans, how does it or say inside stores the the, let's discuss this further now by bringing in today's guest and from washington dc with joined by jody westby. the chief executive of global cyber risk of technology and advisory firm that provides cyber security services. in sydney, toby walsh, the chief

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a lot of that follows deep seads deep seeks large language model announcement. remember that. but despite the recent decline, your next guest thinks this could actually be a buying opportunity to get back into or into nvidia. joining us now to talk about it all is joe moore. he is semiconductor analyst at morgan stanley. joseph, we've now had what, a week ten days to actually absorb and try to learn about deep seek after it kind of came out of the blue and hit us, a lot of us very hard and very quickly. what have we learned and what makes you a little more optimistic about nvidia? >> yeah. >> well, look, i think it's a very impressive. >> model that was. >> created out of china. >> but the. >> space here. >> is one that. >> has a lot of innovation over the course of any given year, any given month. and i think, you know. >> we've we. >> see this as more of an evolutionary. >> gain where. >> deep seek. >> was able to. >> get a little bit more. >> out of a small. investment than we've seen in the past. >> but our. >> checks would say. >> that investment in. >> the space remains.

we've seen it with tiktok, and now we've seen it with deep sea. and i would also add, john, it's not just us that have noticed this. there's a number of other countries and allies around the globe that have banned deep seek. australia has recently done it. belgium has done it. italy has done it, south korea has done it. and so we've introduced this legislation in a bipartisan way from a national security standpoint and to protect the privacy rights and the data from u.s. citizens. >> right now, you're trying to ban it from government devices. ultimately, do you think you'll need to take action on all devices in the u.s.? >> of course, similar to what we did with tiktok, we should be looking at. i also would say this, john, i start with the predicate. let's not forget china has a plan to replace the united states, and they're working at it every single day. they want to beat us technologically, militarily, economically, diplomatically. and again, it's interesting. on deep seek, you will never see any criticism of xi jinping of the communist chinese

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what is the actual result of the development of deep sea? can the idea that china's caught up, now that we've had a few weeks just to kind of catch our breath and really kind of understand what it all means? and we were talking about meta earlier in the show on a 16 day win streak. one of the companies that does have an open source model. is that really the key when we're talking about tech and ai companies having both a closed and an open source model? >> yeah. so the. important thing to take away from deep sea release is not that it's extraordinarily cheap or it's fantastic engineering. that was sort of expected, like almost like on clockwork. we have open source releases that take what's happening at the frontier and make it more efficient. that's that's sort of known to us. i think. what did catch people by surprise is that this game, for the first time from a lab in china, and i think that's changed the geopolitical calculus a little bit for everybody. but ultimately, the beauty of open source is that the rising tide lifts all boats. >>

. >> of deep. >> sea and. their ai model rattled markets and really. >> questioned american. >> exceptionalism in tech in the tech space. actually boosted. >> ai stocks and the. tech sector. >> in hong kong, and thus also one of those sectors to watch that might actually. >> give a. >> bit of a booster for chinese stocks and chinese markets in general in the first quarter of this year. >> back to you and. >> good morning. >> you might think that the tariff news on steel and aluminum would affect, like nippon steel even further. when you're listening to asian media, is it largely seen that this is a negotiating tactic rather than a firm and fast rule for the way things are going to be in 2025? >> well, i think the hope. >> is. >> that this is. >> indeed. the salvo or the initiation of a possible negotiation between president trump and the trump administration and the and those hopes. but again, there's still a lot of uncertainty as to whether or not this might scupper this plan by nippon steel to acquire us ste

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. >> deep. >> sea and chatgpt.> sorry. >> that's. >> beyond my. >> current scope. >> let's talk about something else. >> whereas chatgpt. >> is giving. >> a. >> detailed answer. when asked. >> what happened. >> at tiananmen square. >> deep sea simply refused to aner. >> it's going to generate and then its rules are going to ll you, hey, nope, you're not supposed to say that. wipe it. >> i asked both to compose an essay of someone they admire. >> okay, thepicked the same person. >> both deep. >> sea and. >> chatgpt are saying. they admire malala. >> the concern is that you've got an account with deep sea, which is a chinese owned company. is our data the data that's all over our phone, all the signals that the phone can get and that app can get going to the chinese. >> and there's new reporting this morning on the chinese ai app, facing possible new restrictions here in the united states, lawmakers plan to introduce a bipartisan bill later today banning deep six chat bot application from government owned deves. that

now, under the cover of the deep tech news. and more than anything, it at least took away the conversation or the concern that investors had about aggressive valuation on that stock. right. we were talking about something like 40 times this year's earnings two quarters ago. and now the have sold off. they've recovered some since the deep sea announcement, but they haven't quite gotten back to where they were. and i think that might actually be a positive for nvidia going into earnings next week. instead of hurting it as badly as we probably thought it would four weeks ago. >> steph, what do you think. >> nvidia specifically? i think the expectations are still quite high and the stock is up 100% in the past year and everybody owns it probably except me. but the expectations are high and i don't know if they're going to raise numbers as aggressively as they did and they have been doing over the past year. i don't think it's going to fall off a cliff. and you mentioned the hyperscalers. the hyperscalers aren't cutting back. they'r

deep seat perspective, 4550. >> enterprises. >> not one. >> has changed plans pose deep seated. >> it. just shows this capex. >> doubling down. that's what we're seeing. >> across not just big tech. >> but. across enterprise. >> dan, there were some takes last week on this ai summit in europe. where some. >> of the survey work being. >> done had some. >> constituents saying. >> yeah, we're curious, but we're. not seeing outright value. >> on these investments. >> quite yet. >> where do. >> you think ai, how much of it budgets does it make up and how much could it get to? yeah. >> i mean i think that's why yo. >> have names like palantir. >> right. >> kind of the. >> sort of the. golden child. in terms. >> of use cases. >> modernization is it's already. >> playing out. we believe everything. >> we're seeing. it's about 10%. it budgets and in some cases 15%. now there. >> are. >> some enterprise. and of course places around the world are not going down the ai path, of course, but they're going to have to delay. their initiatives. >> for, i'd say, 12 to. >> 18 months, because. >> right

sea, from deep sea.ossible that might actually turn out to be positive that you have more companies to be able to get through the first part and then go to the more complicated stuff because they get through the first part so easy? >> yeah. and i. >> think if. >> you look at ai deployment. >> and as. >> you. >> know. >> any. >> technology as. >> it comes. >> down in cost has more applications. >> right. >> and so one. >> of the. >> challenges i think. >> we've. >> had with ai. >> is how is it. >> going to perform on the edge. and this is just another. iteration in those models. but from a semiconductor demand. >> we're lights out. i mean, in. >> terms of the forecast. >> this is kind of a perfect time. >> for the industry and for. >> kla, right? >> because of. >> all these drivers. are hitting at once. now, in december 2nd of 2024, the government put on export controls, 140 chinese chinese groups added to the entity list. it's a black list. your stock went up that day. is it possible that maybe things ar

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