union says there just aren't enough cops to make the plan work. >> for the rank-and-file, this is deja vu. once again, another plan, great on paper, but requires resources which the oakland police department and its members, the officers out there serving the citizens, are not provided. >> reporter: the mayor insists new police officers will be hired every year. >> this is an action plan. i said yesterday that we are ready to go, that we're already implementing it. and even though we will be looking for a chief in the next few months, nothing will stop. >> reporter: to illustrate how badly they need new officers, last year one part time officer was investigating 10,000 burglaries. in oakland, linda yee, kpix 5. >>> in the midst of all that's going on, oakland police paused to honor fallen officers today. about 100 people gathered for the annual memorial service to recognize 52 police officers who have died in the line of duty in the history of the oakland police department. >>> could the boston marathon bombings have been prevented? information the anybody knew and didn't tell. >> and you

it's deja vu for sea lion pups. >> coming up next an update on their co >>> coming up a r.at 6:00 a hunt for a serial car thief. how he's managed to give police the slip time and time again. also how far is san francisco willing to go to guard against an act of terrorism. it's supposed to be a big night until a hole develops in a bay area man's concert plans. now back to dan and cheryl. >> thank you so tuch he three sea lion pups are now thriving at sixing flags discovery king bomb -- kingdom. >> they were born last summer, among hundreds discovered in southern california. >> they will not be released back into the wild again. >> they'll find a new permanent home at the marine mammal facility. >>> this is "world news." tonight, firefight. listen to the roar of an inferno. firefighters up against an exploding fire, fueled by 50-mile-per-hour winds. parents rushing children to safety. homes destroyed. schools evacuated, and our reporters are right there. >>> "hidden america" investigation. it is unimaginable. terrified patients pushed out of the hospital, given one-way tickets to strange p

talk about a little bit of deja vu. it's the date of the watergate hearin beginnings, beaming into tvs across america, captivating a nation and crippling a market. walwall street saw a lot of red during that summer. with several hearings on tap for this summer, are we about to see another great 1970 show all over again? to ben stein, charles payne, dagen mcdowell along with adam and charlie. charles payne. >> you know what? i'm not sure. it depends. the hearings this week started off with fireworks. they're going to continue. no doubt about that. if we look at some of these scandals, wate watergate, iran contra, monica lewinsky, the economies did well throughout all of those. >> neil: not watergate. >> well, the gdp wa was up for e most part. toward the end, it was a complete meltdown. that's what happens when the president leaves in that kind of disgrace. you know, i will say that there's a good side to this, too. the idea of stopping the anti-business agenda of this administration, i don't think the market is unhappy

>> it is like you said, deja vu all over again.e same hawks that were trying to get us into iraq are trying to get us into syria. syria is a lose-lose situation. the two sides, it is either hezbollah or al qaeda, what side do you want to take? the american people don't want either side because neither -- they're both not good for us. and, you know, as disturbing to see the war drums beating and beating and beating and so many folks as you pointed out are going along with it, hook, line and sinker. real quick, mccain's quote, which i thought was great, i've been around the military, they don't do something, they'll make up reasons. yeah, listen to the military experts. they don't want to get involved in this war in a civil war between sunnis and shia all over again because we have no strategic endgame. >> that's -- that's the point actually, there is a couple of things that general dempsey has been saying that i wanted to ask you about. the first was that he's saying, listen, the objective everybody wants to achieve here, the milita

. >> reporter: deja vu show girls in rancho cordova also received tax vouchers.overnor brown says he wants to re place it with a credit to buy manufacturing equipment. >>> the legislative atlas says california could wind up with a surplus of as much as $3.2 million. but in governor jerry brown's budget the surplus is not that large. the governor is urging the legislature to take a conservative approach to any extra money which is getting him a thumbs up from republicans. >> the governor is wisely call -- cautious with that. however if it is true and those moneys do materialize i hope they go to funding education. >> some democrats say they want to use the money to restore funding to a number of social safety net programs. the state budget deadline is june 15th. >>> later this week the state assembly is set to vote on a bill to raise the state's minimum wage. the minimum wage would go up 25 crepts crepts -- cents to $8.25. after that it would be pegged to inflation. the state's office says the increase will help hard working families. here are the high temperature

hi, i'm neil cavuto and talk about a little deja-vu. 1973 the date the watergate hearings begin captivating a nation and crippling a presidency. wall street seeing a lot of red that summer. and several hearings on tap for this summer, are we about to see another great 1970 show all over again. charles payne? >> i'm not sure. it depends. the her rings this week started off with fireworks. look at some of these scandals. iran contra. monica lewinsky. the economy did well. the through all those economy grew great. >> neil: not watergate? >> g.d.p. was up. when it broke toward the end it was meltdown. that is what happens when the president leaves in that kind of disgrace. i will say there is a good side to this, too. the idea of stopping the anti-business agenda of this administration, i don't think the market is unhappy with that. >> i think watergate was middle of stagflation. michael mukasey monica lewinsky was in the middle of tech boom. this market doesn't care about the president. it cares about the head of feds. that is what this marketed cares about. if obama resigned tomorrow the mark

now, if this sounds like deja vu all over again, that's because it is. we went through this last summer. some of you were here. it wasn't at hot. i don't think we did this event outside. but we went through this, and eventually congress listened to all the parents and young people who said, don't double my rate. and because folks made their voices heard, congress acted to keep interest rates low. but they only did it for a year and that year is almost up. so the test here is simple. we've got to make sure that federal student loan rates don't double on july 1st. now, the house of representatives has already passed a student loan bill and i'm glad that they took action, but unfortunately, their bill does not meet that test. it fails to lock in low rates for students next year. that's not smart. it eliminates safeguards for lower income families. that's not fair. it could actually cost a freshman starting school this fall more over the next four years than if we did nothing at all and let the interest rates double on july 1st. so the house bill isn't smart

. >>> now, this sounds like deja vu all over again, that's because it is.nt through this last sum r summer. eventually, congress listened to all the parents and young people who said, "don't double my rate." and because folks made their voices heard, congress acted to keep interest rates low. but they only did it for a year, and that year is almost up. >> the president this morning reminding us that student loan rates are about to double, and urging congress to take action. the house has put legislation forward to keep student loan rates from doubling from the federally subsidized 3.4% to 6.8%. unfortunately, the president isn't a fan. >> now, the house of representatives has already passed a student loan bill, and i'm glad that they took action. but unfortunately, their bill does not meet that test. it fails to lock in low rates for students next year. that's not smart. it eliminates safeguards for lower-income families. that's not fair. >> house republicans disagree and say the bill is in line with the demands that the president made in his state of the u

talk about a little bit of deja vu. it's the date of the watergate hearin beginnings, beaming into tvs across america, captivating a nation and crippling a market. walwall street saw a lot of red during that summer. with several hearings on tap for this summer, are we about to see another great 1970 show all over again? to ben stein, charles payne, dagen mcdowell along

if you're a world weary washingtonian this may give you a case of deja vu.o you see anything racist about that name? >> i really don't think it's that bad. >> i think it's fine. i don't think it's a big deal. >> reporter: but if you're robert holden, deputy director of the national congress of american indians, it's a huge deal. >> i just can't seem to fathom why they don't want -- they're in favor or continuing this name that is just disgraceful to us and particularly in a majority minority town. >> reporter: what's different about this fight? grasso is tossing up a new niche red tails. do you know what one -- name, red tails. do you know what one is? >> no. >> i can't answer that one. >> that would be a true testament to the tuskegee airmen and the red tail hawks which are a big thing in the d.c. area. >> reporter: to lifelong fans, a redskin by any other name, if they change it to red tails, what are you going to do? >> i'm still going to love them. >> back to robert hoeden, he said also many people don't know the term comes from a bloody time in history

it's a deja vu situation made.eserve to have your ark of the weapons of mass destruction doesn't fly too well with the international community obama told about a possible france well he was going to act on the situation in syria and he mad analogy between his action against some other rather and so that is some kind of vague what do. you know we basically said ok we will act on the chemical weapon issue we're just taking our time and we want to be sure that we are right the u.n. is evacuating as peacekeeping troops from the golan heights the demilitarized zone between syria and israel and we draw all comes after for all of its personnel abducted by syrian rebel fighters thing i would say contrary to absent of tons of believes of the incident is the latest among many which make it harder for the u.s. to justify its favoritism towards the opposition. if only the united states people realize that presumably john kerry will have to be telling mr putin you see the martyrs of yarmuk order they call themselves even as the

between their targets in boston and london hello there annie nice to see you do you have a ceiling of deja vu here. well i have to be i think there is a bill to see that these sort of random apparently lone act with more common across the way i mean what are you with videos in london today blaming overt before the british government generally thought in the middle east and this causes close relations the people across africa police and and they are right the angry at policies by the u.s. government which. not just. visions of sovereign country but all clear illegal activities such as drawing up a set list to see if we can get by the u.s. presence and. the tax which is american wedding party. in families and briefings so. there is a lot of out there and i think we have a right to rethink the end of the i don't think these sort of i'm attacked the way that an a because they are. unfortunately we're having gross sound problems here sorry. and that was an emotional informer and my five agent thank you. former british soldier joe blanton who refused to serve a second military tour in afghanistan e

it through deja vu situation made.he didgeridoo of your ark of the weapon of mass destruction doesn't fly too well with the international community obama told about a place on france well he was going to act on the situation in syria and he mad analogy between these action against osama bin rather and so that is some kind of vague what do. you know we basically said ok we will act on the chemical weapon issue we just taking our time and we want to be sure that we are out for u.n. peacekeepers have been abducted by rebel fighters in the israeli occupied golan heights are to contribute sabse and returns it believes the incident is the latest among many which make it harder for the u.s. to justify its favoritism towards the rebels if only the united states people realize that presumably john kerry will have to be telling mr putin you see the martyrs of yarmuk order they call themselves even as they kidnap twenty one un observers in march and they have given up for more filipinos i've been to the golan heights and the brok

we don't want this to be a deja vu with the sars virus.get ahead of 8 ball. >> this is more deadly than the sars virus was because the number people contracted by it, a large portion have died. >> the sars virus affected over 7,000 people of which 700 died. in this case there have been a little over 40 people diagnosed but more than 50% died. >> this is a respiratory issue which can cause kidney failure. what is the u.s. doing? can they prevent this from coming over here? >> we need to have more information. the world health organization has committed to finding more information. the world health organization has sent people to the middle east. >> that is patient zero. it has moved to the u.k. it only takes somebody hopping on a plane. >> we're more connected but not in a good way when it comes to containing communicable diseases. >> i assume the infants and elderly are most at risk. >> right now we're seeing it is more affecting men. we don't know why. we don't have a large group of people to see the trends in this so we'll have to contin

the author of a new study, robert rector, it's deja-vu all over ain. we can go back to 2007, kennedy, mccain and the heritage foundation with a study and the number was $2.5 trillion. >> right. $2.7 trillion. the analysis i did and everybody agrd with was only the retirement costs now i'm doing pre-retirement and post retiement and government is 40% big are. it's unbelievable and that is why this bill is going to cost a fortune. >> lou: i have not thought o it the way you cast it between now and 2007 when immigration, comprehensive immigration reform legislation was rolled back. 40% bigger in just about six years. it's incredible. there is something else going on that is fast a nat go to me. as you put forward thistudy, cato, the americans for tax reform, i'm talking about strong vibrant voices. the club for growth, you go through it and americans for tax reform and the american action forum, doug's outfit, they say you are wrong and couldn't be wronger. he has numbers. instead of wt you are concluding your reported it would reduce the deficit by2.5 tr

deja vu. we have the cool-down and the winds coming back. that's a familiar scenario as well. but as we get started this morning, live doppler 7hd not showing anywhere in the way of low clouds and fog. it's confined in the monterey bay. we will look at clear conditions right on through tomorrow night that. allows the warmer air to be mixed down to the surface as higher pressure builds in the next day and a half. here's a look from the sutro camera. look at all the 60s already. except at the coast. we are talking low 60s from mountain view, oakland and san francisco. so you can tell already we are on our way to a very warm afternoon. temperatures about five degrees above average by 3:00, 4:00. here's the look from santa cruz where it is nice and quiet but by later on today probably a busy place. 67 santa rosa with low 60s in napa, 72 the north wind, up to 24 miles an hour of fairfield. 64 livermore. and mid-60s in los gatos. we are mostly sunny, no fog to speak of. very light winds or nonexistent. we are talking about warmer the warmest weather will be tomorrow and then a big c

hi, i'm neil cavuto and talk about a little deja-vu. 1973 the date the watergate hearings begin captivatingand crippling a presidency. wall street seeing a lot of red that summer. and several hearings on tap for this summer, are we about to see another great 1970 show all over again

when you hear vista is buying up websense, you get that 1990s web deal deja vu that i am.yse trader. he made his fortune selling his company, ble blue lithium to ya, you see this hear this, day ja view to you, yahoo! not a great track record on making them work. >> i think marissa is a different structure, in building something for long run. she will reinvigorate yahoo!, i think it is a great transaction, you look at youtube and google, everyone said a billion for something only 18 months old, now you know several years later, it is 700 million in profit. and 4 billion in revenue for google that tells you why. silicon valley if it picks right winners, it shoeing to invest in them -- if it choosing to invest in them. neil: the check has cleared for you, right? you were brilliant at that time. >> not even about, that market has changed. >> that is where there are doubts, because, tumblr is that a hundred million users, yet to capitalize off that. it seems like a few more possibility. >> what i know about tumblr, is unfortunate, i can not imagine any merchant wanting to align

. >> no deja vu in game two.he warriors, kind of one game, a little like basketball's story of the tortoise and the hare. that was game 1. tonight, the young warriors stay quicker, faster, and hungrier. forget the 30 game losing streak at san antonio. it's over. you'll hear about clay thompson's shooting, but his d was great too. 29. they led by 19 at intermission. steph curry coming up with the break. great pass to thompson. hit him in stride, and he will go to the rack. 34 points, career high, 14 rebounds. the warriors led by 21. but the spurs make their move. you knew they would. curry, 22 on the night. 7 of 20 shooting. drives, floats it. 2:00left, they're up by 9, and do stave off san antonio. 100-91. series 1-1. steph asked afterwards what coach jackson had to say about staving off a spur comeback again. >> coach told us to have amnesia at halftime. that's basically it. we're a young team. so that might help, that we can forget about it and just keep playing. have fun, keep the composure, amnesia, and get t

. >> no deja vu in game two.he warriors, kind of one game, a little like basketball's story of the tortoise and the hare. that was game 1. tonight, the young warriors stay quicker, faster, and hungrier. forget the 30 game losing streak at san antonio. it's over. you'll hear about clay thompson's shooting, but his d was great too. 29. they led by 19 at intermission. steph curry coming up with the break. great pass to thompson. hit him in stride, and he will go to the rack. 34 points, career high, 14 rebounds. the warriors led by 21. but the spurs make their move. you knew they would. curry, 22 on the night. 7 of 20 shooting. drives, floats it. 2:00left, they're up by 9, and do stave off san antonio. 100-91. series 1-1. steph asked afterwards what coach jackson had to say about staving off a spur comeback again. >> coach told us to have amnesia at halftime. that's basically it. we're a young team. so that might help, that we can forget about it and just keep playing. have fun, keep the composure, amnesia, and get t

. >>> it was deja vu experience for the oakland a's and the kansas city royals in town and getting itlone. butler couldn't have thrown this ball in a better place and lands between three athletics and is an rbi. first malone with a based loaded no-out jam and he struck out to end the ending. the a's got one run on a sacrifice ply. moss got on the into a santana pitch. coco crisp scores on the rbi triple. the a's make it two in a row over the royals both by a-1 score. >> there is a certain personality we have come to expect from the giants in recent years, pitching and defense, their strengths. those straits have gone missing in their current road-trip. giants at coors field. this is how you make a fan happy pablo sandoval handing over a personal souvenir. blanco scores belt. belt doubled with two out and chatwood just called up from triple-a for this game. giants committed nine errors in their previous four game oz the trip. here is another one. tim lincecum throws the ball away from the dribbler by rutledge and the rockies took a 3-1 lead, lincecum not happy with the development. mor

. >> 35 years in this home, this is all deja vu for you. >> yes, in 1981 we had a fire not, i was going to say in some ways it was worse. it was so intense and so hot and then after we snapped this picture this entire tree went up which is this tree right here. >> reporter: she was one of the many homeowners that saw the flames that raced toward their home. >> the heat was pretty intense. we were still a good 100 feet away from the homes. it started getting hot, we started backing up. >> it was intense not knowing where the fire was going to go. >> reporter: no injuries whatsoever to report. no property lost in this area of newberry park. i did want to mention one casualty. remember that tree in that story, hey listen, as the sun was setting, the tree did catch on fire. and it went ablaze. guys. >> james, it's remarkable how close those flames got to homes. is there still a lot of homes threatened tonight. >> reporter: well, about an hour ago i would say those embers were still smoldering in the hillsides there. as we look into the hills now nothing but black so it tells me basically wh

may seem hard to believe that you're not experiencing deja vu here, but it happened again now, a military serviceman whose job it is to protect against sexual assault has excused himself of sexual assault. latest case involves a ft. hood sergeant. you won't believe this, i couldn't believe it, into prostitution and for sexually assaulting this guy did apparently charged with two others. the army's not releasing his identity as he has not been charged officially, but get a load of his job title, sexual harassment response and coordinator. that's right, the guy you're supposed to go to for help is accused of sexually assaulting someone. this comes just one week after the man in charge of sexual assault from the entire air force was charged with sexual battery. last night defense secretary chuck hagel ordered a retraining, rescreening, and recredentialing of all sex assault officers. this is what could make this time different, seven female members, all senators, who make up a little more than a quarter of the committee. on the house side, women comprise about one in five of the committee me

and it is deja vu allver again, robert.his is -- we look back to 2007, kennedy and mccain and the heritage foundation now with a steady. as i recall what was that number? about two and half trillion dollars. >> right. the analysis that i did in 2007 was basically only on the retirement costs. now i am doing both pre retirement and post-retirement. you know what has happened? government is 40% bigger. it is unbelievable. and that is why this bills going to just cost an absolute fortune. lou: kennedy was rollback. 40 percent bigger and just about six years. it is incredible. there is something else going on this time that is fascinating to me. that is, as you put for the study, cato, the americans for tax reform, i'm talking about strong, vibrant voices of conservatism in the country, cato, grover norquist and americans for tax reform, the club for growth, you go through it. the american actionorum, dug holes eagan's outfit. they come after you ying you are wrong, dead wrong and could not be more wrong. and he has some number

. >> 35 years in this home, this is all deja vu for you. >> yes, in 1981 we had a fire not, i was going to say in some ways it was worse. it was so intense and so hot and then after we snapped this picture this entire tree went up which is this tree right here. >> reporter: she was one of the many homeowners that saw the flames that raced toward their home. >> the heat was pretty intense. we were still a good 100 feet away from the homes. it started getting hot, we started backing up. >> it was intense not knowing where the fire was going to go. >> reporter: no injuries whatsoever to report. no property lost in this area of newberry park. i did want to mention one casualty. remember that tree in that story, hey listen, as the sun was setting, the tree did catch on fire. and it went ablaze. guys. >> james, it's remarkable how close those flames got to homes. is there still a lot of homes threatened tonight. >> reporter: well, about an hour ago i would say those embers were still smoldering in the hillsides there. as we look into the hills now nothing but black so it tells me basically wh

mayor, must be eerie dÉjÀ vu for you. >> completely. glued to the tv when it started happening and when i seen the development of the tornado, it was in stunned, shock, silence, and thinking, not someone else. >> neil: that was an ef5 category storm. 158 folks lost their lives. what are these type of storms like? when you came and helped out here, you have a special insight for these folks. >> correct. when we first heard of the news of the tornado hitting moore, oklahoma, our main concern -- we were actually under severe weather ourselves so while we were trying to make sure our residents were going to be safe, our thoughts went to moore, oklahoma, and say, what can we do to give back? because so many people had done so much for us during the time of our devastation. >> neil: amaze opening your part and your colleagues' part. you heard the latest tornado watch warnings -- misusing the wording -- in effect in the greater dallas area. what is your advice to folks who might be in harm's way? >> to take heed to what your national weather s

i think as yogi berra once said, it's like deja vu all over again. i see us walking down the same road with the same characters singing in the choir, the same people off the same sheet of music with a few changes trying to get us into war with iran. the momentum with respect to syria is not because of the brutal civil war there, it's also because of people like lindsey graham and john mccain from my party and bob menendez would like to get in a war with iran. it's another catastrophe brewing, and if the american people don't wake up and start saying something about it, they'll find themselves in another trillion dollar ten year war not unlike iraq today. let me say, iraq is a mess today. it is an absolute mess. you've got the saudis funding the sunnis and a resurgence of the civil war. you have maliki in the back pocket of iran, so what we have, as george bush doesn't tell you in his library, is an ally in iran in iraq now. you have the curds about to establish their own state in the north and iraqis who know anything about their country predicting i

. >> right now i'm feeling this overwhelming of deja vu and waiting for president obama to tell me to before the fake secret service came in to escort me away, i felt i'd ask for a spoiler alert about what lies ahead for the tv president and secret love of his life. >> so you know whether or not the president and olivia pope end up together. >> no. >> you don't? >> no. sometimes i do. sometimes i don't. now we're at a place where i'm just watching where they're going. i know what i'd like to happen, but we're following the story right now. >> again, the season finale of "scandal" airs tonight at 10:00 p.m. we wish our friend shonda rhimes the best. >>> later rick santorum joins us. after decades under an iron-fisted dictator, what does democracy taste like in libya? anthony bore dayne with more of anthony bore dayne with more of "the lead." sglfrnlths sglavrnlths the rest is up to you. so consider an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they pick up some of what medicare doesn't pay. an

bush's failed attempt to privatize social security, many americans are experiencing somewhat of a deja vus term began with proposed cuts to social security through chain cpi. the obama administration isn't deg to gamble with the future of social security, but they are proposed cutting earned benefits for some of the most vulnerable americans. liberals, don't take your eye off the ball. republicans still want to destroy the new deal. senator bernie sanders put it this way on our show. >> the american people are saying loud and clear, do not balance the budget on thelderly the sick, and the poor. why is he doing this? i think the president continues to some very, very strange idea to keep believing if he makes major concessions to the republicans, that somehow he's going to get something back in return. >> eight years ago, president bush tried to strengthen social security by privatizing it, and then of course, the market went down. how would that have worked fw it had gone through. he got hammered in the midterms. democrats won back the house and added six new faces in the senate. if presi

i feel like this is deja vu all over again. >> this time it's about the small tendons used to strengthen the bridge. there are reports about corrosion. engineers reportedly discovered that back in 2006 the ducts containing the tendons had been left unsealed during construction and that exposed them to rainfall and salty mist. cal trans examined some tendons and found little corrosions, but others are raising doubts about the testing methods. >>> beachgoers are being told to avoid the stretch of marin county coastline following a sewage spill. sanitation officials say 3300 gallons of non-treated waste water drained into the san francisco bay on wednesday, after a telephone contractor accidentally broke a pipe. tests on water samples taken after the spill should be finished early next week. >>> and the 49ers new stadium in santa clara may be home to super bowl in 2016. the bid committee will present its final proposal to the nfl in boston. it happens at 7:30 in the morning. team owners will make a final decision on the fate of super bowl l. that's the big one. miami was the bay area's main

it's an eerie deja vu if you will when we look at moore, oklahoma, because you wake up and you say what in the world? this happened again. and two years ago later we are progressing. however, we do still have a long way to go also. and i agree with the statement just made. your expectations are always greater than what is delivered immediately. your first thought is to make sure your citizens are okay and get your city back on track. however, you do have to go through the proper procedures that the government has outlaid for fema. you do have to follow those guidelines. and sometimes it can be frustrating, but the key thing is to communicate with your citizens. communicate every day what's going on, where you are with the process. and that will help relieve some of their fears. >> governor fallin, bringing you back in. what do you think will be your biggest long-term problem? when you look down the road, we all know you have to get that debris out of there, we all know you have to put telephone poles back up and phone wires buried or otherwise have to be put back into place. long-term t

. >> for the rank-and-file, this is deja vu. once again, another plan, great on paper, but requires resources which the oakland police department and its members, the officers out there serving the citizens, are not provided. >> reporter: the mayor insists new police officers will be hired every year. >> this is an action plan. i said yesterday that we are ready to go, that we're already implementing it. and even though we will be looking for a chief in the next few months, nothing will stop. >> reporter: the police officers union says hiring more officers isn't the only answer. they also have to work at keeping the officers they have here because, liz, this is such a violent city, there is no will to stay. >> right. yeah. linda, they mention all these changes. and that's all well and good. but do they have the money to really implement these changes? >> reporter: well, a question. the mayor seems confident they will find the money. but when you talk to some city council members who were present today, they said we don't know wh