we're the democrats. we represent the people across the country and this is exactly what we're going to do. i kind of feel like this is a public option fight all over again. you know? they have the power to do it. they just have to have the guts to do it. get your cell phones out. i want to know what you think. tonight's question. should democrats explain their support of spending cuts? text a for yes. text b for no to 622639. we'll get you the results later on in the show and once you go to our new blog at ed.msnbc.com. there are two sides to this story, a number of different ways of looking at it. joining us tonight is "the washington post" columnist e.j. dionne who is also senior fellow at the brooking institute. the title of e.j.'s column today is "where's obama's resolve on the budget battle?" fair question. e.j., good to have you with us tonight. >> good to be with you, ed. >> do you think the president can make a big difference in this right now? what do you think? >> i think the president has powe

cutting things -- the democrats might as well not be democrats. they have not stood up for anything. to cut the epa when we are having a radiation crisis, a cancer cluster crisis, a superinfection coming -- these socialist problems. democrats have given away everything without sticking up to taking taxes from the richest people in the country, the corporations, and stopping the war. you're cutting things that are essential at that time were they are desperately needed. it just say no -- just say no. where in the world are the democrats? host: from twitter -- joe, an independent from chicago. sorry, i pushed the wrong button. richard, you are on the air. good morning. caller: hello. where was the president yesterday when he was supposed to be at this meeting with boehner and senator harry reid? he was in pennsylvania trying to get his vote for 2012 instead of going to the budget meeting. host: the president did have a budget meeting when he got back from the trip. he traveled to pennsylvania and new york yesterday and came back around 8:45 eastern

big you could tell us about the democratic -- maybe you could tell us about the democratic view of having lost the house after being in power for 40 years. >> first of all, there were shellshocked. those of us who ran the campaign committee into the ground that year, saw what was happening and tried to alert the troops without screaming the sky is falling. it only would have fallen faster. many of the members were unable to do anything about it, even in their own districts, in their own campaigns. it really was the creation of a lot of dead wood. some of them are my dear friends. people who had been there a long time and did not contain defectively for many years. it was the culmination of what lbj said when he signed the civil rights bill and the mid- 1960s. we've lost this outrage generation. it took 30 years for it to play out, but it became the republican cutting edge, winning seats in the south. there were part of the newt gingrich coalition. i know a lot of my republican friends think of him as -- when he could not become eisenhower, he went. democrats were pretty easy targets at th

and liberal democrats would get together and fight conservative democrats and conservative republicans. the parties were divided on the basis of the civil war and not small versus large government. you do not have a lot of bipartisanship. they can be bipartisan when they're raising their own pay, opposing term limits, to pass campaign finance laws that make it difficult for challengers. on issues of spending and taxes, they're going in different directions. republicans would like a smaller government. the democrats want a larger, more expensive government that does more to help manage your live for you. they're going in two different directions. what is the compromise when somebody wants to go east and somebody wants to go west? you could have gridlock and still make. the compromise is not the option. host: let's put the arguments on the table. when george bush took office, he did inherit a budget surplus and the projected surplus over 10 years. republicans were in control in the house and congress. they brought taxes down. they put on the medicare program that was not paid for and two

i think the democrats felt they had no leverage. but when it came to the floor -- the bill that averted the shutdown. when it came to that vote they did knee some democrats? >> how many times did nancy pelosi pass a bill with 80 republicans? not very often, if ever. >> she hinted at that this week. we did it with our guys. they reached out to steny hoyer this week to say we're en-- gauging where the democrat votes are. that is pretty unusual. i don't think that the lock on the house they have is as strong as he would like to it be because of this. >> should all the people who want to see the two parties work together see that as good news? >> i do think that democrats walked away thinking maybe we can force them to the center more than we thought they could. gwen: except two big fights looming and that is the debt ceiling vote and the 2012, the big, big budget. we saw paul ryan at the center of this, congressman from wisconsin, chairman of the house budget committee, rising power, i guess, in the house. does he have a chance of gett

now, democrats believe it was a raw deal.ut here's what democrats should celebrate. 60,000 kids will be able to continue head start. millions of students will continue to receive their pell grant. what the president was able to do in drawing a line in the sand, he made it about budget numbers, not all of his social appetite the republicans wanted. we need to give the president credit for doing that as well. >> i don't think you need to give the president credit. that was the obvious thing for the president to do. i think the planned parenthood stuff was a gift for democrats. that is so easy for them to push on that. thank goodness from the democrats' point of view that those riders came up because it allowed them to say, actually the republicans don't care mainly about the economy, they're pushing this social agenda. what i think is missing, donna, i would love to hear you expand on this. democrats are actually arguing that the recovery is incredibly fragile. unemployment is high. you, christiane, it's actually a question, we

democrats have been silent on this. take a look at the other aspect of this -- to reduce the spending back to the the level of 2008, you do that, you are going to have as serious consequences. this is not rhetoric, at this is not a doomsday thing. look at the people with head start now, the kids on headstart, the families participating, and you will see dozens taken off. they will not go out on the streets and die, but people losing programs that really benefit them. you look at the question of what people are going to do on tax reform. he is silent on that. he does nothing about agriculturalubsidies. he sees that i -- >> not true. >> extending tax cuts for the rich -- >> no, he lowers -- >> people who are doing well -- >> look, he lures the rates the same way they were though it in 1986 in -- he lowers the rates the same way they were the word in 1986. you lower the rates for everybody. it increases efficiency -- >[unintelligible] >> but then you go and take something like medicare, which does need reform -- >> if you

then democrats.bers of the tea party organization have received a lot of attention. host: what about twitter? guest: it is far less relevant for those 18 to 29 years old. it is somewhat surprising. we had members of our undergraduate survey group to try to figure out why. the reason we have figured out is that you can engage with people on facebook rather than just publishing information on twitter. young people are more interested in engaging than just exchanging its permission. host: this person tweet in -- and the ability to that? -- any validity to that? guest: it is hard to respond to 140 or so or less characters. the headline of the survey is the president's fairly significant increase in support. first, we looked at the relationship between his camp and the generic republicans, 38% are still undecided. a couple of years ago, the president had 66% of the vote share. he is still quite that high, which means that republicans have made a serious effort with this generation. host: diana, you are on

women in the senate democratic caucus. they are hard-nosed on all of those things and they are on harry reid's net to make sure they are not in the compromise, or they are exceedingly small, and match is not exceeded by defense cuts. those are the limitations that defense spending is operating under. there are ways of the party as it wishes shutdown and elevate the debate because the president has not identified these as huge bottles we are fighting. >> the planned parenthood issue is hugely important to a social conservative members of the house, but it will not be in the final bill. the president has made that clear and senate leadership has made that clear, and i think republicans know that, but that will cause a major blow up, if and when the decision is made. the problem is when you have that blow up and come to them becomes but, they may run out of time. >> here is a point that is intimately involved in the c- span audience. this house bill, $61 billion from the 2010 budget was on the floor for five days come subject

democrats' position. talking about $30 billion or $60 billion, it is a lot of money. if we are going to have a shut down, we should have a shot down over something they'd like entitlement reform or the debt ceiling, not over $30 billion. i thought that was good. >> i think republicans are depriving themselves by the way they are operating. >> in that look like a big capitulation. >> unlike the c.r. when we have a certain date, the debt ceiling we know is coming but we do not know when. there is a lot of play in when we hit it and when it is. i think it is not a good metric of our obligations and knees to be fixed. -- and needs to be fixed. this is a classic tissue on a partisan vote. this is the majority's responsibility, always has been. and it dealt with splits, of but that no one wants to take, and that tax on to something else. it is an issue that the tape party has grabbed on to win in an incredible way. -- that the tea party has grab onto in an incredible way. it is about entitlement reform. those o

debt ceiling we know that several republicans are in favor of raising us but did you know that some democrats are now vallance a vote against it too so now that we know of a bipartisan effort to go against the president's wishes does that mean that the white house has completely lost but that is a battle and it was a royal occasion kate and william were married this morning and people in america woke up really early to catch every single minute of it on news networks but for those who care about i don't know what's really important in the world what the hell are we supposed to watch and it's friday so i think we all deserve a toast to happy hour raise your glass and watch as artie's jenny churchill might want to hand and myself discuss the stories creating a buzz this week or saving that plan for the end of our show up first our top story . prices are rising and economic growth is slowing down here in the u.s. the five big oil companies are raking in the dough this week they released their first quarter. it's an exxon mobil the largest oil company in the country reported a ten point seven bil

s and traditional democratic alliances. they remain critically important to foster democracy but in a world of 190 un member states winless build a bridges to these critical powers. our most effective tool for the polarizing the traditional debate over human rights and democracy promotion speaking about addressing our own shortcomings and also bridging some of the ideological divides in the cumin rights and democracy debate. president obama's success in reinvigorating the human rights commitment made it easier for other governments to stand with us on these issues in international forums. the president made it clear that he believes human rights begin at home and the most powerful tool in our example and struggle to perfect our unions. this is included in reaffirming the ban on torture and the effort he made to close guantanamo. preparing a ratification package for the you and disability prevention and the u.s. government to producing its own action plan to mainstream gender consideration and international security policy a

i don't think democrats by and large -- some say it will benefit democrats politically. so sure the democrats are sure this time as they might have been in retrospect. . . if he produces that because his -- he's -- they're working very hard for the freshmen members and have been for months now, literally months. meeting with them in small groups to talk about keeping their eyes on the big issue which is going to be the fy12 budget and i think to the extent that they have convinced the freshmen members of the fy12 budget is the big issue, the leadership is going to get a little bit of a pass on the way that they avoid a shutdown of the government in the interim. if they allow freshmen members to say i stood up for my principles and we avoided the government shutdown because we were focusing on fy12 that seems to be an acceptable political construct for the speaker. that doesn't lead to you a conclusion what happens to the fy12 budget which is another issue but it will get us through next week. >> you want -- same question. >> well, i agree with vin. i think there's a kind

the democrats said, no way. no way are we going to throw 700,000 employed americans out work and we rejected that. but a clean c.r. for the funding of the military on and you'll have 100% vote. but when you cobble together the kinds of foolish cuts, unwarranted cuts, 700,000 lost jobs and then attach to it the military and expect support, you won't get it. the democrats want this government funded. and we fought for more than a year and a half to get the government funded. we were blocked along the way. now as the republicans put out these pieces of legislation, the continuing resolutions and attach to it totally unacceptable language and unacceptable cuts to the american people, not to the democrats but to the american people, then we find this gridlock. what we want to do really is talk about jobs. joining me tonight are two wonderful legislators, one from the -- let's see, imported from detroit and another from the manufacturing capital of the world. but i want to start with an understanding of why we are whe

"usa today," democrats-gop bid. is there a democratic alternative coming up, erik wasson?st: they are going to do another alternative budget but there is the obama 2012 budget proposal. in their analysis, it does bring down deficits by $1.1 trillion over 10 years. i think the democrats are focused on short-term job growth and a major underpinning of the party's approach, short- term cuts would erode job growth. the president is looking at election in 2012. he is very concerned about doing that. a lot from their perspective on all of this is let's not wound the economic recovery. that is where they're coming from. the president put out a budget in february. their message is that it increases the spending on education, infrastructure, and research to win the future, which is their mantra. host: the second page comes from congressman chris van hollen. he puts it this way. this is ideology on steroids, talking about the republican plan. north richland hills, texas, sandy, a democrat. caller: i am glad that there is a budget to talk about. [inaudible] people like him [unintelli

are in trouble on this the it is reid and the democrats and doesn't lose it what we're seeing more and more news coverage is americans are blaming republicans for the shutdown they're seeing that the republicans or democrats are trying to get the take time and time again but the most basic of compromise is that we try to get to go more than half way republicans want us in any other direction so i'm going to have to ask i mean isn't there a bigger question at hand here which is why it happened man and woman we elect into office regardless of what letter they have at the end of their and can't seem to agree on a sex paper at registry that's when you know very well they can't find a government where the democrats ran the show they ran the rule the roost in all three branches house senate and presidency last year they didn't write a budget when reason or arguing about this is because the democrats when they ran everything didn't write a budget for this year we're trying to clean up the mess that the democrats left last year there is a one point six five trillion dollar deficit they're goin

we must note here that republicans have gotten from democrats -- democrats have now signed on to cuts in spending that are as large as the ones that house republican leaders initially proposed themselves. so there are a lot of democrats that say, wait a minute, the president was helping us make this case. we would have not had to accept so many large cuts. gwen: the democrats think they got rolled in this. >> the white house says we didn't want to get involved in this tiny fight over a little tiny bit of the budget. we are thinking about since the state of the union, the large budget, the big thing about entitlements and investment and america's future and jobs. and we want to have the big conversation and have the president ready for that, so we didn't want to get involved in the little one. >> but we don't know when we're going to have that conversation. and one of the things that happened this week because of the proposals laid down by paul ryan -- gwen: the house budget commilt chairman. >> yes, who's providing much broader changes, is that he is forcing the president's hand, perh

do the democrats think it is the worst possible outcome? faction on both sides of the house that would like to see a shutdown play itself out, that would like to elevate the status of this battle. i think there are those freshmen republicans who say they campaigned to be aggressive about cutting federal spending. i know we only have limited lever in house majority, do not have a senate majority, do not have the president, but if we do not try our absolute best at the front end of this confrontation, then we will be back pedaling the entire way of this congress. that is their mind-set. that is their belief. until that is significantly altered either by harsh legislative realities or gentle persuasion or maybe not so gentle persuasion from speaker john boehner, that will be intractable -- they will be intractable. elf was the speaker to look for democratic votes, and that will make this all the more difficult. >> it is one thing to win a midterm election and if the president of the united states. it is another to defeat him in a legislative b

why democrats -- i used to be a democrat. i left when they extended the bush tax cut for two more years. i thought that is it, no line was drawn in the sand for public options. i'm out. so i moved to the independent field. but i'm so tired of courage being attached it people like paul ryan. that is sad. guest: we have to be careful here. i understand where you are going and agree with a lot of what you said. but paul ryan is presenting an agenda to me that is very important for us to discuss. he may not have the ideas that you and i like. that is immaterial. that is what america is all about. when you say we had this compromise in december of last year and in that the president and democrats let you down, i can understand. i could appreciate that. i had to think twice before that vote also. but i had to think beyond the parameters of my party and i had to think -- the only parameters i should be work being is the common good and i think is the right decision to have the president bring the country together when we had a terri

that gives democrats more soft target. this isn't about money, this is about the cultural and right getting into the act and screwing up the possibility of a compromise. >> charlie: let me move to the idea of paul ryan and his proposal. what's the response in the house to it and what impact will it have? >> well, i think this is a far more far reaching than this squabble we're having now over government funding which i do believe will be resolved even if there is a shut down, it will be a short shut down. the paul ryan budget though is really setting the republican agenda not just for the rest of the year but potentially for a generation. i mean he has put forward a plan that gets into not simply questions of government spending but of policy. i mean his efforts to basically remake the medicare program into a system that is government subsidized but private insurance. this is a far reaching plan. republicans i have to tell you, charlie, were fearful of this day. a lot of them did not want paul ryan to go forward with a pla

democratic primary candidates.raising as much money as gore raised in 2000. >> hinojosa: wow. >> so he says, "look, i've got a ticket in this sweepstakes. i'm going to play hard." he's doing well. he's a qualified guy. he's projecting well. he's become a, you know, big antiwar spokesman within the democratic debates. and he's waiting for his opening, right? and he knows that the front- runner... i mean, howard dean was the front-runner in 2004, right? >> hinojosa: so anything can happen. >> so typically, the front- runner never wins when there's not a presidential incumbent in a democratic primary. and this is what everybody's jockeying around. but his money... he's got a lot less money. he started from a smaller base. new mexico is pretty small. and... but he's not... you know, he's not... this is not his last chance. >> hinojosa: he's still young enough. >> he looks at other races. you know, minorities have to break through. somebody's got to do it. jackson did it in the '80s for african-americans, and you know,

democrats on the senate have failed -- democrats have failed to pass a budget or 182 days. 182 case, that's an entire school year. i ask my colleagues on the other si of the aisle, what would you think if your child's teacher did nothing for the entire school year. our constitution authorizes congress to be the power of the purse. it is our job to set a responsible and affordable budget for the federal government each year. and if we can't do our job we should not be paid. mr. speaker,, it is time for the -- mr. speaker, it is time for the democrats in the senate to do their job. i yield back. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman yields back. the gentleman from georgia. i'm sorry, the gentleman from south carolina is recognized. mr. clyburn: thank you, madam speaker. madam speaker, i yield a minute and a half to the gentleman from florida, mr. hastings. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman from florida is recognized for a minute and a half. mr. hastings: i thank my good friend from south carolina. david fishburg wrote in 1975, "i'm just a bill," and this has been utilized -- i ut

a failure of leadership on the part of republicans joining me now to discuss this issue erick a democratic strategist and david williams president of the taxpayers association alliance great to see you both. erica policy writers there's all kinds of stuff in these continuing resolution bills. what's the deal here well i mean that by kind of stripping out i mean some people say that they're for messaging and some people say that it allows people kind of really see these little teeny policy pieces but they're not small and they plot stuff like that planned parenthood defunding and it's a way to kind of say the political part and kind of show show it out front so i think you know people talk about writers and talk about you know what's in this bill and what kind of cuts are there and i think i think some people want to be able to say like we voted on this what we get and some people want to say we didn't vote for this look we didn't get it and so it was a little bit of their policy statements that yes do you want to government shutdown was mentioned as a possibility republican caucus me. and

big you could tell us about the democratic -- maybe you could tell us about the democratic view of having lost the house after being in power for 40 years. >> first of all, there were shellshocked. those of us who ran the campaign committee into the ground that year, saw what was happening and tried to alert the troops without screaming the sky is falling. it only would have fallen faster. many of the members were unable to do anything about it, even in their own districts, in their own campaigns. it really was the creation of a lot of dead wood. some of them are my dear friends. people who had been there a long time and did not contain defectively for many years. it was the culmination of what lbj said when he signed the civil rights bill and the mid- 1960s. we've lost this outrage generation. it took 30 years for it to play out, but it became the republican cutting edge, winning seats in the south. there were part of the newt gingrich coalition. i know a lot of my republican friends think of him as -- when he could not become eisenhower, he went. democrats were pretty easy targets at th

vermont with its democratic governor and its democratic controlled house and its democratic controlled senate. do you want to know what vermont is doing? single payer. do not tell any conservatives you know about this. they are going to freak out. >> i happen to be a proponent of single payer universal health care. [ applause ] that's what i'd like to see. but as all of you know, we may not get there immediately because first we've got to take back the white house and we've got to take back the senate and we've got to take back the -- >> if i were designing a system from scratch, then i'd probably set up a single payer system. >> there are some people who proposed in the past medicare for all. that essentially is what's called a single payer plan. and a lot of countries have single payer plans. i have to tell you that politically it would have been difficult and it would have been very disruptive. >> whatever the politics that ultimately made it too difficult and disruptive at the national level in the president's estimation, vermont thinks that at the state level they are perfectly ha

' failure and they're eroding away to democrats really was blocked by the republicans absolutely who have these bizarre economic theories i'm wondering your opinion. of whether the republicans are blocking things like unemployment benefits that obviously generate massively stimulate the economy absolutely and generate jobs actually. who are they blocking this because they actually want the economy to continue going to the tank because that's their strategy for two thousand and twelve i mean there was reference to this two years ago when obama first came in you had several very high profile republicans saying we're going to block everything on mcconnell just said that mitch mcconnell just said his number one priority is stopping obama for being reelected if the economy gets better. obama's going to be reelected and i think some of it is about stopping the economy so he doesn't get no i really don't want to embrace that because i really don't want to think that people that we elected are the only one the economy to get back to where it was but i think if you look at it they've said no

they have partly compared him to earlier democratic speakers. but let me ask, boehner versus gingrich and boehner versus boehner. >> he was a committee chairman. that is important training, and different than others who move up the leadership ladder and not through the committee process. he really accomplished something. then he did what many who get knocked off the leadership ladder do, he went into the committee and became a serious legislator. he then came back into the leadership process, having been the effective chairman of the education and labor committee. it is not a choice assignment for a republican. he did a very good job. that affects the way that he performs as speaker in a fairly significant way. we will see that as we go forward. the other thing i would say about speaker boehner, newt gingrich thought of himself as the leader of the republican party. no question in his mind that he was the leader of the republican party. other people might question that. john boehner does not think of himself that way. he gets a lot of jokes made

yeah yeah i want to be clear that i don't think that the united states' support of democratization is at all of threat to the united states or in dangers our image around the world what i think is the danger is the for support of the united states militarily for for. actions that we're not sure about yet i think if you dare say what i said i'm sorry i have a few more time but it is a very interesting point many thanks my guess a day in washington and austin and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules. and you can. download the official anti up location giovanni phone the i pod touch from the i ching sampson. the jaunty life on the go. video on demand keys a minefield comes an r.s.s. feeds now in the palm of your. question on the quality dot com. it. could. be. wrong.

to hear democrats talk this is armageddon. to hear them talk this $61 billion in spending reductions is so onerous that america will never be the same. americans aren't buying it, the people of utah and people around the country understand that if the senate were to accept the full $61 billion in spending reductions, life tpwhot only go on -- life would not only go on; no one would notice any difference at all. let's look at this in a little bit different way. nondiscretionary -- or non-defense discretionary appropriations have been hyped up by 24% in the last three years. and 84% if you count the stimulus bill. but to hear democrats talk, even beginning to roll back this explosion in government spending is akin to shredding the declaration of independence. give me a break. the bottom line is that the cuts in h.r. 1 are more than reasonable. people who are remotely serious about reducing the size of government should accept them in full. but the white house and their capitol hill allies do not seem to have gotten the message t

sure yeah yeah i want to be clear that i don't think that the united states' support of democratization is at all of threat to the united states or in danger is our image around the world but i think is the danger is the support of the united states militarily for for. actions that we're not sure about yet i think if he dares our web site down we're going to give you more time but it was a very interesting point many thanks my guest today in washington and austin and thanks to our viewers for watching us here arche see you next time and remember cross talk rules. are been here broadcasting live from washington d.c. coming up today on the big picture. the official the cation chobani phone the i pod touch from the i.q. stamps to. life on the go. video on demand keys and mine comes in.

yeah yeah i want to be clear that i don't think the united states' support of democratization is at all of threat to the united states or in dangers our image around the world what i think is the danger is the support of the united states militarily for faction. that we're not sure about yet i think if the terrorists will strike down which i have to give you more time to do that it's a very interesting point many thanks my guess a day in washington and austin and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are t. see you next time and remember cross talk rules. from . home.

democrats line. caller: i would like to say, just to agree with a lot of other callers, we really just need to get to the real issues and everyone come together and make decisions. i'm a government employee. i am considered non-essential, so if there is a shot down, i will not be going into work. this is one of those things where federal employees, military employees, we are not the ones who should be used as an example when there are situations to where there cannot be agreements made between all party lines. i just think that agreements need to be made. if there are other issues that get tabled, then those issues become table, and you just move on with the budget. the economy is really now a bit fragile, but it is really now coming back up. if you look at the amount of jobs that have been created in the private sector, this is because of people who are out there working and other things being generated because of people able to fuel the economy. so this will be a step back, and i do not think anyon

joe on the line for democrats. and caller: i am wondering why a lot of the other news outlets will not cover this information when we should have freedom of the press, and it takes a good rock-and-roll magazine to let us know the facts. thank you for taking my call. guest: that is a very interesting question. i have been surprised by the lack of coverage in the traditional media and the last week of this report in the release of the photographs. in this case i think the photographs are so graphic and gruesome, television has had a hard time figuring out how to handle this. if they do not have visuals, they tend not to cover things. the rest of the media has been very reluctant to pick this up. part of this has to do with the fact it was u.s. soldiers engaged in this atrocity. perhaps that is something for the american people to really fix.at and experiencnd host: next up, augusta, maine, on the line for democrats. caller: good morning. i appreciate your magazine. my question has to do with drug use among american s

and if the democrats really care. democrats should be fighting to get that incentive for oil companies taken out of the budget if it is still in there. host: from "the financial times" -- his second late-night appearance in a row -- including speaker of the house john boehner and democratic leader harry reid. >> for us to go backwards because washington could not get its act together is unacceptable. so again, 800,000 federal workers and their families impacted. millions of people who are relying on government services not getting those services. businesses, farmers, veterans, and finally, overall impact on the economy that could end up severely hampering our recovery and our ability to put people back to work. host: the president last night, "the new york times" this morning, their editorial -- on the republican line, nancy is joining us. clearwater, south carolina. caller: good morning, how were you? host: fine, thank you. how're you? caller: i am great. i always voted straight republican ticket and i would like to

sure yeah yeah i want to be clear that i don't think that the united states' support of democratization is at all of threat to the united states or in dangers our image around the world what i think is the danger is the support of the united states militarily for fact. is that we're not sure about yet i think if he dares our web site down which i have to give you more time but it is a very interesting point many thanks my guest today in washington and austin and thanks for viewers for watching us here arky see you next time and remember cross talk rules. to see. chosen from among many. he was given a clear cut mission. a mission he successfully accomplished. became the first several encounters. of the soviet union one of the best known persons in the world. all his thoughts were focused on someone. who he ever thinks that his life's work would cost him his life . one happened in those few seconds. and what city could see silda barrels still.

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democrats say they cannot live with those.e republicans say that they can't live without them. >> lehrer: everybody on both sides-- either positively or negatively-- is talking about, of course, the role the tea party conservatives on the republican house side are having. any news on that? what position they're taking as we move toward the end here? >> well, i think it's pretty clear to maybe a couple dozen of those republicans are probably going to oppose almost anything that comes out because it's not going to be the initial deal that the house republicans passed. beyond that it's hard to say where these guys come down. there's some talk that if they end up with a deal to cut $40 billion instead of $iii 3 billion some of those conservatives might come along. a lot of people are looking ahead to the 2012 bat which will has been joined now. a lot of people are eager to put this fight behind them. but speaker boehner is in a tricky spot. on the one hand he's under pressure to get a deal done. on the other hand he has to do some

there's a lot of concern in the democratic ranks. the labor people, when we're talking about pensions, and already we're seeing ads from the california teachers association up on tv, taking about do not cut education anymore. he's getting pressure from those groups and he will get it there. and we're going to see what kind of address he delivers and how tough he gets to them this weekend. because we have begun to hear some of what is the democratic strategy going forward or how they're starting to pressure the republicans, both bill and senate leader dennis steinberg talked about, well, maybe we can do outsized cuts in the republican district. that is, if the republicans are so opposed to tax increasing or taxextensions, maybe their districts can be cut back on in public services. we're hearing that argument being floated and, of course, the republicans are starting to already -- >> is that legal? could they do that, say, orange county you're not going to get as much as alameda county? >> that's an interesting question. i'm not sure