now, kentucky democrats, democrats across the country, really thought jack conway was going to win that race, both because they thought matt bevin was a very beatable fairly eccentric, fairly polarizing guy but also because the polling just told them that very clearly in fact democrat jack conway was going to win that race. he definitely lost that race and by a lot. and today in today's news, one very specific chicken came home to roost on that story. the lexington herald leader newspaper today in kentucky fired their pollster. that paper runs the bluegrass poll, which is supposed to be the gold standard poll in that state. but they completely blew the governor's race this year. so that paper has fired their polling company. that's the kind of procedural consequence of that race going the way it did in kentucky this week. that's the procedural consequence. the real-life consequence of that race going the way it did in kentucky this week is that 400,000 people who live in kentucky are now watching their surprise new republican governor trying to figure out if he meant it when he promised

favors democrats is right.uture giant latinos voted levels too low to be decisive in many areas and the vote is very heavily concentrated in places where democrats already do well. california, new york, illinois. to make a big difference black voters, asian voters, latino voters all have to show up in off-years, show up in mid terms. vote heavily not just in the marquee races but down-ballot where control of state legislatures livers. the same legislatures that dra w coongal districts that current magnify getting born and makes political analysts salivate and no political power stays from staying home. i'm ray suarez and that's the "inside story." the news continues right now. ht now. >> president obama says the key stone xl pipeline is a no go. back to work, the unemployment rate reaches a seven year low. suspended, russia is stopping all flights to egypt. the democratic presidential candidates hope to make in-roads with southern voters.

the vermont democratic party, the ohio democratic party, he is a huge democrat. and i think that will withstand any sort of challenge that he may get. matt: can you talk a little bit about the senate rate -- senate race that you will have of their. we know that -- is up for reelection. what is your sense on that? what are the issues that the democrats are going to try to pursue against the incumbent senator, who has been popular. raymond buckley: well, one only -- tuesday at the just that kelly ayotte is going to be a one term senator. with watering down wall street and stands up against planned parenthood. she is against minimum wage and marriage equality. the list of issues that she is in direct contrast goes directly in contrast with the people of new hampshire. and we absolutely believe that the new governor has to be able to bring her bipartisan mayor of being an effective governor into victory in november. there is nothing to lead us to believe that we are not going to win in 2016. speaking of the governor, talking about the presidential race, she has endor

it's telling that the poll of iowa democratic caucus goers just as we can come and 9% more i would democrats trust bernie socialist too refused to describe himself as a capitalist, trust him with the economy more than the trust hillary clinton. it tells you where the eye would democrats are right now. a party very much on the left, that's going to be a tough argument for democrats trying to cut across the political spectrum, that we should have social or it -- socialist policies steve:. we have more on "close up" straight ahead. can trump win iowa? when we come back i will be joined by our political analyst science professor, dennis steve: welcome back to "close up " on this sunday morning. joining me now, familiar face, drake university site -- dennis goldford. we begin the show by talking about isis terror attacks and the threats made by that group. do these recent events have the momentum to kind of redefined the campaign for the democrats and republicans? dennis: at least right now they do. when americans to let the government or the presidency, the first thing you think about is to prov

thing went down, why a democrat?hat got her essentially elected with us a democratic machine and it hadn't been there since the civil war. right? so it has taken a long time and some ways that's not anyone's fault. that's kind of makes sense. i mean, the south is a conservative place. the republicans is a conservative party. kim davis should be a republican based on her belief system. we had though seen the completion of that project in a totally stunning way. i mean, we have supermajorities throughout the deep south alabama and mississippi where they have a near supermajority. you have also seen thanks to the massive turnout problems democrats faced in 2010 and 2014, big margins in the non red states of the south, right? you have the problem in ohio or wisconsin or in florida which let's remember barack obama won twice. right? really big margins for republicans and this is something we have seen throughout the country, not just in the deep south but most pronounced in the deep south. >> you're saying that there's a

democrat jack conway has 44%. and democrat turned independent drew curtis has 4%. health care reform was front and center in this campaign. >> to call kynect, it's a blatant lie. >> i'm talking about the medicaid expansion. >> there's not a lot of free money in the pot, jack. >> here's bevin tonight in his acceptance speech. >> we has a state, we as a party and we as a nation to some measure, but specific to this moment in time in the commonwealth of ku ki, we need a fresh start. we truly do. >> joining me now by phone is joseph girth for the courier journal. what is happening in the bluegrass state? how did matt bevin perform this upset given where he was, the amount of money being spent by his opponent, jack conway, and the fact that the governor, a democrat, his son looks like he's the projected winner for the attorney general race in the same state. >> right. and, in fact, the associated press has called that race for andy basheer, the governor's son. kentucky is turning republican and has been doing this probably for the last 21 years. and this is further evid

democrats have not been doing that. but i would also argue that part of the problem is democrats have not taken the fight to the american public. the american public is upset. they should be upset. government has failed them. you saw a republican win by saying i'm going to dismantle health care when 20% of kids in kentucky go to bed hungry, when 100,000 kids are going to lose their health care under this governor. i didn't see the democratic candidate fighting for that. they concede family values to the republicans. i'll challenge republicans on family values. poverty is not a family value. hunger is not a family value. lack of health insurance is not a family value. democrats have to go after these people. kim davis says, well, i'm doing what the bible says. no, you're not. you're doing what the old testament says. jesus said in the new testament 40 times, if you believe, you're in. but the problem, i think, alex, is democrats aren't making the argument. conceding the arguments to republicans, particularly in rural are

, 25 democrats. you can imagine the fundamentals are very different in these types of elections. one thing i think that is different about this election coming up is that there is one seat that looks like those very red seats that republicans won last time for the democrats and that is in illinois. a state that democrats should win, will win at presidential election, i will put money on it. mark kirk is in very difficult atmosphere because of character of the state. the other opportunities for democrats are swing states. some of them democratic leaning swing states, some they have chances. the list is relatively long. if it were to be very good win for presidential candidate, if there were to be democratic wave you could imagine a big win sweeping in but those states are more, more competitive. so republicans will win some and lose some, at least at this point looking ahead. those states are wisconsin. probably the most other than illinois, the most epr endangered for republicans with ron johnson fac

moved away from democrats. are democrats saying what southern voters want to hear or are southern voters not listening to democrats? we look at shifting political party in the south. >> today, the south is strongly and solidly republican but at one time was a democratic stronghold. take a look at the 1960 presidential maps, states that went for john f. kennedy in blue, the republican states in red. democrats controlled nearly all of the southern states in terms of the results and also senate seats in the house. five years later, lyndon johnson passed civil rights legislation and things began to turn. carter won almost every southern state, but in congress, republicans began making in-roads against the democratic hold on the south. by the 2012 presidential race, we see gop red in most of the south. it's also reflected in congress where republicans took the vast majority of southern seats and on the state level with the exception of the kentucky house, republicans now control every single legislative chamber in t

, are democrats and republicans equally corrupt or one more than the other. >> democrats and republicans are deeply dependent on the money raised. i don't think there's a difference in the economy of influence. republicans are slower to propose practical changes. democrats and marylands opposed an aggressive way change... >> he's in one of the safest districts, i know that. >> exactly. the one thing to say if there are more like john in the democratic than the republican party. you have a group called take back the republic, a group started by the guy who helped david bratt beat eric cantor in the upset in the last primary season, and that group is focused on recruiting republicans to the cause of changing the way elections are funded. in the end republicans and democrats - if the base hate the system that we have. >> it's an issue that you see a consensus on between the two parties. i wonder who you will support for president. who is talking about this issue, and laying out a plan to address some of the problems. >> on the democratic side, every one of the three candidates checked the r

democrats also only hold 18 out of the 50 governorships and in state legislatures democrats have lost 816 seats. so i wanna ask you why is this happening and what can the dnc do to stop it? >>debbbb: well, i shared thehe me concerns after the 2014 election when it was clear that our turnout in mid-term elections was so dramatically, so lower than >>amanda: yeah. >>debbie: in presidential elections. and that really, no matter what community or state that you're talking about, is what you can attribute our losses to. because really when democrats vote our candidates win. we, we have to make sure and that our candid-, that our voters really are as motivated in a presidential election, in a, in a mid-term election as they are in a presidential. i appointed a democratic victory task force which is just wrapping up its work. they've been working all year to really take a look at what we can do at the national party level to make sure that we organize and mobilize effectively >>amanda: mmhmm. >>debbie: to ensure we can get that voter turnout and help make sure that we can propel our candidat

he is running as a democrat. >> he is a democrat. say bernie sanders is a democrat. >> in our view and my definition of a democrat bernie sanders is a democrat. >> say bernie sanders is a democrat. >> bernie sanders is a democrat, no question. >> substance is more important than the label. >> bernie sanders is a democrat. just say bernie sanders is a democrat. >> bernie sanders is a democrat. >> governor dean who knows bernie sanders as member of the independent socialist tradition, can you repeat the phrase bernie sanders is a democrat? >> i don't plan to do that. i think bernie is doing a big favor by running as a democrat. the reason i think he is doing a big favor is because if he were to run as independent he would take votes away from our nominee if it is not him. he has said he does not intend to do anything to help a right wing republican become the next president of the united states. >> why do you differ from saying bernie sanders is a democrat? >> i don't demur from saying that. i didn't come on the show to repeat slogans.

are holding democrat seats. what does this election look like? 24 big numbers are, republicans of four election, while there are only 10 democrats of your seats. and they just looking ahead, if in thek at 2018, and is opposite direction with only eight republicans and 23 or if 25 count the independence, democrats bring you can imagine that the fundamentals are very different in these types of elections. one thing that is different about this election coming up is that there is one seat that looks like a very red seat that the republicans one last time for the democrats print that has an illinois. that is one that they should win. very difficult atmosphere because of the character of the state. the other opportunities for democrats are swing states. some of them are democratic leaning swing states. the list is relatively long. it would be a very good win for presidential candidate" were to be a democratic way. it can imagine a big wind sweeping in. but those states are more competitive republicans will win some a

he's now a democrat.ause in the past, he's run against democrats for the senate, ran against democrats for mayor. >> in this campaign, he decided to run for the democratic party nomination and is running as a democrat. i'm glad we resolved that. >> i didn't know he changed party. >> he didn't. if he could register, he would. >> i think that's a technical point. he's a socialist. >> he's a democratic socialist. >> that's better. let's go with that. thank, tad devine. keeper of the keys. joining me right now is new hampshire senator jeanne shaheen, a major supporter of hillary clinton for president. thank you so much for joining us. let's go back to this thing about guns in new england. i always thought guns were a real challenge for democrats in pennsylvania, where there are so many gun owners. so many defeated, moderate, great old liberal senator joe clark on that issue was defeated. tom foley i think i had beaten on the issue. is it an issue that can hurt a democrat if hillary stays strong on it. can it

are holding democrat seats. what does this election look like? 24 big numbers are, republicans of four election, while there are only 10 democrats of your seats. and they just looking ahead, if in thek at 2018, and is opposite direction with only eight republicans and 23 or if 25 count the independence, democrats bring you can imagine that the fundamentals are very different in these types of elections. one thing that is different about this election coming up is that there is one seat that looks like a very red seat that the republicans one last time for the democrats print that has an illinois. that is one that they should win. very difficult atmosphere because of the character of the state. the other opportunities for democrats are swing states. some of them are democratic leaning swing states. the list is relatively long. it would be a very good win for presidential candidate" were to be a democratic way. it can imagine a big wind sweeping in. but those states are more competitive republicans will win some a

to new jersey and democrats have pick up at least three seats in the assembly. all 80 were up for grabs but only four districts were competitive. democrats now control the assembly 50 to 30. >>> and we have all of the outcomes from all of the local races on our web site just go to cbs philly.com. the link is is up at the top of the home page. >>> juror returned to work to

democrats have moved past it. and i think sanders and o'malley missed the chance in those opening 30 minutes, which is all we'll be talking about for at least the next two weeks, if not longer. and there's no difference between these three democrats. they want to squabble about immigration and guns and all that other stuff. but this is -- it's commander in chief time right now. and they didn't show that they past that threshold tonight. >> juan? >> i think that clearly this was all about in terms of its substance, the open, which was about what happened in paris. and that's why the cbs thought maybe they would shift it or change the format. sanders fought against that, because he wants to stay on domestic issues. this plays to your point, they don't want to have the argument about how we respond in the middle east right now. so what the news out of this is, one, how hillary clinton handled barack obama, especially in the recent statement which he said we have isis contained. i think he was speaking about isis on t

where did the democratic race stand the last time there was a competitive democratic contest, at this time in the campaign? that would be in the fall of the 2007, hillary clinton was doubling up, barack obama then, of course, you remember, barack obama, once he won iowa, once he won those iowa caucuses, the numbers really turned dramatically for him nationally. some of those key states, especially. south carolina, so, obviously, that would be the hopeful example that the bernie sanders campaign would be pointing to right now. but that is quite a high bar that barack obama set in 2007 and 2008. so, that's where we stand right now. that's where we've been. and joining me now to talk about how the race is shaping up for 2016, we have howard fineman, the global editorial director for the "huffington post," jackie kucinich, and msnbc contributor, jonathan capehart of "the washington post." welcome to all of you. howard, let me start with you. you've heard the line as much as anybody else, the donald trump phenomenon, the ben carson phenomenon, being written off as something we've seen befo

democratic senate, republican senate. so no matter who was in charge, incomes an household haven't gone up. and that's so that people have this feeling that, well, the economy may have recovered by my economy hasn't recovered. and that's sort of added a new degree of angst. all this is an increase in populism. occupy wall he street on the left, and elizabeth warren and bernie sanders, two of the hottest characters, people, personalities in the democratic party, or whether it's the tea party movement, donald trump on the right-hand side this rise of populism that's created tensions within each of the parties. for example, the tension in the democratic party between the building construction trade unions who desperately wanted the keystone pipeline and the environmentalists who desperately did not want the keystone pipeline or look on the republican side, the export-import bank. and the tea party movement. crony capitalism all this. it's created tensions within each side. then you get to the culture wars. and where you've g

the democrats who were watching that, it was iowa democrats who start this in less than three months, those new hampshire primary voters. bernie sanders still has at least 1/3 to 40% of the party with him, no question. >> peter, go ahead. >> i think -- i say this as a liberal. i would be concerned as a democrat about the entire terrorism part of this debate. the republican line, whatever you think about it, is very clear. it's that we left iraq, the terrorists filled the vacuum. we've retreated from the world. now they're going after us. i would be darned to listen to all three candidates and discern a clear democratic line of how you're going to fight terrorism. they were very vague, very nonspecific. and i think they have a lot of work to do. if terrorism is going to be a major issue in this election, the polls show people trust republicans on it, they're going to have to do better. >> and there was a good five, eight-minute section where the three of them sort of parsed words over words. what they would call the threat. was it radical jihadism, was it islamic extremism. no one real

democrats have moved past it. and i think sanders and o'malley missed the chance in those opening 30 minutes, which is all we'll be talking about for at least the next two weeks, if not longer. and there's no difference between these three democrats. they want to squabble about immigration and guns and all that other stuff. but this is -- it's commander in chief time right now. and they didn't show that they past that threshold tonight. >> juan? >> i think that clearly this was all about in terms of its substance, the open, which was about what happened in paris. and that's why the cbs thought maybe they would shift it or change the format. sanders fought against that, because he wants to stay on domestic issues. this plays to your point, they don't want to have the argument about how we respond in the middle east right now. so what the news out of this is, one, how hillary clinton handled barack obama, especially in the recent statement which he said we have isis contained. i think he was speaking about isis on t

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republicans have 24 seats and democrats only have 10. but republicans have seven seats up in states that obamaca took 2007. one of those republican state seats in an obama state is in iowa and grassley will not lose. but you have six republican seats that are in real, real danger here. and conversely you only have one on the democratic side and that is in nevada. if you ask each side, what is one more? and republicans would love to talk about colorado. but that doesn't look that promising against michael bennett. democrats would like to say richard burr and north carolina. but i don't think anything is going to happen there. it is 6-1. you look at kirk in illinois, good guy, but if he got reelected it would be an enormous upset. ron johnson in wisconsin would be an unset, i think. and you look at other republicans that would not be upset but republicans in states that obama took have challenges. portman in ohio, we have pennsylvania, the new hampshire senator and rubio's open seat in florida finally. six republican seats that are a-prime

>> democrat. >> democrat, democrat. >> i'm a republican. >> you're in harlem.ited about hillary? >> not too excited. >> i love her so much. >> what do you think hillary's biggest accomplishment has been? >> i don't think she has that many. >> you want her to be president? >> yeah, i just like her because she's female. >> what does she look like to you? >> a grandmother. >> she would be all right as long as she stay in her place. you know what i'm saying? >> that's not nice. >> no, what do you mean not nice? >> do you trust hillary? >> not so much. >> do you think hillary has done a lot for black america. >> i don't look for politicians to do things for me. >> you want a politician that tells the truth. >> the whole truth and nothing but the truth. >> good luck with that. >> you can't handle the truth! >> who is that? >> that's not dick cheney, right? >> no. >> that's the exact opposite of dick cheney. this is senator bernie sanders. >> bernie. sounds like weekend at bernies. >> bernie. >> guess what state? >> d.c.? >> d.c. is not a state. >> philadelphia? >> ph

as a recently graduated law student going to the democratic national convention and hundreds of democrats were demonstrating to bring adelaide stevenson back for the third time he currently did not think john kennedy was presidential enough. i think what will happen, it was one of the nations leading pollsters that said this, this is a campaign in desperate need of voters. in about two months, the first real live of american citizens are going to go to caucuses in iowa and to the primaries in new hampshire and we will get a sense of who is out there and once that happens, not only will the field change somewhat, but they will focus on the candidates. i am pleased at how our campaign has been going and we are well ahead of where i thought we would be in terms of organization and financing and relevant strength. but these are all things and until you are tested by voters, we won't know. i thought the nbc debate was not the easiest format in the world. i thought the democratic candidates generally did well. i think as time goes on, that will continue to be the case. sooner or later as voters

democrats have moved past it. and i think sanders and o'malley missed the chance in those opening 30 minutes, which is all we'll be talking about for at least the next two weeks, if not longer. and there's no difference between these three democrats. they want to squabble about immigration and guns and all that other stuff. but this is -- it's commander in chief time right now. and they didn't show that they past that threshold tonight. >> juan? >> i think that clearly this was all about in terms of its substance, the open, which was about what happened in paris. and that's why the cbs thought maybe they would shift it or change the format. sanders fought against that, because he wants to stay on domestic issues. this plays to your point, they don't want to have the argument about how we respond in the middle east right now. so what the news out of this is, one, how hillary clinton handled barack obama, especially in the recent statement which he said we have isis contained. i think he was speaking about isis on t

only 10 held by democrats.seven of the republican seats held in states that obama won and increasingly as we see the number of swing voters decline as we see red and blue states divide much more distinctly, as we saw with the kentucky results, which really reflected the fact that you're not seeing swing voters so much anymore. it's a red state and it votes red. for a matt beavan who was an outsider in that party to win handlely, that really tells you something. for democrats to win the senate, they're going to have to win the white house and win it by a significant enough margin that enough races that are marginal would go in their direction and they don't lose states like nevada that are also toss-ups. >> thank you, norm. just five minutes. perfect. second question for you. i know paul ryan is a friend of yours. what are his greatest strengths and weaknesses right now? >> ryan started out very well. it is frankly because john boehner gave him two big gifts, parting gifts on boehner's part. the first was negoti

a democratic firm serving early state democrats.t was showing that the people paying the most attention to the our seniors,w conservatives, self identify demographics, seniors, conservatives, white men, demographics that generally vote very strong republican. if you look at the bottom of groups that were paying, they were most excited and paying the most attention. you see minority groups. you see young people. see unmarried women as well. these are the three groups most critical to the obama coalition the secretary clinton will try back together when she runs. it is a big question right now. can she do that, can she have as much enthusiasm? for all thelook at, talk about how republicans are having all of these to base and they are fighting and bickering and look silly, this is what a lot of people on the democratic side will say, they are getting tens of millions of people to watch their debates and see them here they are excited and they want to take back the white house, very much. democrats had two debates. as a writer, i unders

all the other democrats are against it as well. back from the amount of time it had gone on due to a lot of the fights when it came to over environmental concerns, this just kind of turned into your typical democrat versus republican fight where most democrats were against the pipeline, almost all republicans were for it. there were some exceptions from democrats in some oil-producing states. but as the time went on, as the gas prices got lower, the economy better, it's striking today that 271,000 jobs were announced being created in october, unemployment rate at 5%, it really just turned into a "d" versus "r" political fight. >> we're seeing this, this announcement coming from the president and the administration rejecting these plans, but it still may not necessarily mean that it's over in this fight. >> well, and you know, another big part of it, frances, had to do with some of the legal ramifications. and yes, it could be that the canadian energy firm that wanted to do this could have a different route, there could be things th

we went to harlem to see what voters had to say about top democrats. >> democrats. >> i am republican are in harlem. are you you excited about hillary? >> not too excited. >> i love hillary. i love her. >> what is herçó biggest accomplishment? >> i don't think she has that many. >> but you want her to be president. >> see there is a female. >> what does she look like to you? >> a grandmother. >> she be all right as long as she stays in her place. >> that is not nice. >> a woman belong it a man. >> do you trust hillary. >> not too much. >> she done much to black america. >> i don't look for politicians to do things for me. >> you want the truth and nothing but the truth. >> good luck with that. >> you you can't handle the truth. >> what is that? >> that is not dick cheney, right? >> that's the opposite of dick cheney. >> this is senator bernie sanders. >> bernie, sounds like weekend in bernies. >> and guess what state. dc? dc is not a state. philadelphia. philadelphia is a city. >> state. >> vermont. >> vermont. never heard of that. nvermont is a state. >> never heard of it. >> bernie

, he is a democratic candidate.aul ryan can now say that you are part of a team, you're back with us, we will campaign for you. he can send signals that he is going to do things directly by taking steps like that. host: the first thing out of the gate was the highway bill. was that something that you supported? guest: we did not support the bill. andccepted the status quo we are going to keep it as a large federal program. it is a six year program but only half of it is paid for, which violates his own principles of trying to get hold of the runaway spending. and also have a provision that bringingis terrible of back to life the export-import banks. so we did like this first bill, but i think we will watch and see. if he continues to govern that way then he will be the same as john boehner. but if he shows that he will change traction with entitlement reform and work on tax reform, then i think he has an opportunity to succeed. host: the budget bill that was just past, where did club for growth stand on that? was $1

sanders when it comes to party lines. >> i have been a democrat for a very long time and as a democrat not only worked on behalf of issues and causes that i believe in, but i have supported a lot of democrats over the years and campaigned for them and raised money for them. and i encouraged them to run and i will continue to do that. as president, i have told a lot of democrats in the country that i want to help to rebuild the party from the grassroots up. we have a lot of work to do in a number of states where democrats no longer have any positions in the federal delegations. and don't have control of the state house or legislature and we see increasing, you know, partisanship and positions taken by the other side that i don't think are in the country's best intchlt i want to work to elect more democrats and we have a clear set of plans of how to persuade people who are not voting democratic lately to understand we are on your side and we'll fight for and you make a difference in the life of you and your kid's life. that's my goal. >> are you nom -- >> no, i am a democrat and i think

democrats. -- and only 10 democrats. it's alook at 2018, class in the opposite direction and only eight republicans 25 democrats. you can imagine that the fundamentals are very different in these type of elections. one thing i think that is different about this election coming up is that there is one verythat looks like those red seats that republicans one last time for the democrats. that's in illinois, estate the democrats should win, will win at the presidential election, and it's a very difficult atmosphere because of the character of the state. the other opportunity for democrats are swing states. some are democratic leaning swing states and the list is relatively long. win for agood presidential candidate, a democratic wave, you can imagine a big win sweeping in. but those states are more competitive. republicans will win some and lose some. wisconsin,s are probably the most endangered for -- and then roughly in order, new hampshire where there are strong candidates, one florida which is a

only 1/3 of democrats have that posture.ven on the accept with religious screening, you don't even have many democrats on that. this gives you a sense of the weakness for the case of more syrian refugees. mark: you wonder why republican politicians support passionately bringing in refugees, saying at a minimum a halt on bring them in. 70% of republicans say don't accept any. no surprise, you have all these republican governors and democrats driven by this. and the overall mood of the country saying we at least need a pause or a ban. john: i mentioned the ted cruz point earlier. this is the electorate ted cruz is appealing to fight seeking a federal ban. it's a political maneuver, putting a ban on all refugees except for syrian christians. even in the republican party, that is how small that is for that position. he may not be playing a winning hand there. mark: this evaluation will depend on whether you are a half glass full, half glass empty kind of person. we asked whether they think islam is inherently violent or inherent

democrats can call in at [indiscernible] -- democrats can call in at (202) 748-8000.epublicans, (202) 784-8001. independents, (202) 748-8002. you can also find us on facebook, twitter, or e-mail. a very good monday morning to you. most major papers leading with the news about france hitting targets in syria. france targeting isis militants in syria. below that on the front page of the "usa today," the debate on syrian refugees is playing out. "white house and congress clash over syrian refugees" is the headline. ."he washington post the front page of the "washington times." "obama, u.s. still open to refugees." we are talking about this debate over syrian refugees. it played out on the sunday shows yesterday. ben rhodes is the deputy national security advisor to the white house. he was asked if the president was reconsidering his plan to allow syrian refugees into the united states. [video clip] >> we are still planning to take in syrian refugees. we have very robusta vetting procedures for those refugees. it involves intelligence, national counterterror, extensive in

now let's talk about the democratic side. precedent to what we are seeing in terms of the democratic party and initially coalescing behind a front-runner. and that front runner seems to have the lock on the nomination. but then the challenger comes out and makes it a little interesting for some time. think of walter mondale in 1984, where he had the outsider challenge from gary hart. with think about 2000 with al gore where he had the challenge coming from bill bradley. and each got interesting briefly as that sort of got -- and it sort of got less interesting. with the democratic party in 2000 a whole lot more -- i keep on forgetting that my left in your left -- getting so much brother to the left and to the left of where hillary clinton had been, then this anger at politicians, anger at washington, or at least the established order of thing, that has crated more of a net to it. but the real story a think with hillary clinton is when you think about when she left office in january 2013, when she left the job of secretary of