that's our challenge to the people at the top of the justice department. thank you. >> thank you, i'll turn time over to the mr. harris. >> there's a saying that a picture is worth 1,000 words. the picture that should be engrained in the mind of every american is, is that vote counting center where the transparent class glass is bein covered over by large sheets. most americans know there's only one reason to do that, it's because you want to conceal a crime on the other side of that glass. ladies and gentlemen, it's very possible that criminal ballot fraud was being committed on the other side of that glass. the only way we're going to know is by the attorney using federal investigators to find out what's going on. every american knows a vote should never be counted in secret. you can just believe your lying eyes. the fact of the matter is, votes were counted in secret and americans deserve to know why. and now i yield to the gentleman from florida. >> thank you, andy. >> hello, everybody. this goes out to attorney general barr. we implore you to work on t

we did not get any work at of this justice department. there is widespread evidence of have notcause people done their jobs. will deserve a big notation in history when it is written of the rise and fall of the united states if they do not clean up this mess, cleanup the fraud, do your jobs, and save this little experiment in self-government. that is our challenge to the people at the top of the justice department. thank you. >> thank you. i turn time over to the gentleman from maryland. >> thank you very much. there is a saying that a picture is worth a thousand words. the picture that should be ingrained in the mind of every american is that the vote counting center where the transparent glass is covered over by large sheets. most americans know there is only one reason to do that, because you want to conceal a crime on the other side of that glass. ladies and gentlemen, it is possible that criminal ballot fraud was committed on the others of that glass, and the only way we will know is by the attorney general bringing federal investigat

>> wow, i guess that depends on who he staffs the department of justice with. for years when i was at the department of justice we heard all about, you know, norms and how would the president handle this investigation and was he going to fire special counsel robert mueller. now we'll see when the democrats get their turn in the barrel what it will be like when president or joe biden has to answer questions about whether he has any dealings with his son's business dealings. i would also add one other thing that was reported is that joe biden's brother, jim, is also part of an organization in

he said in an interview on sunday that he believed the department of justice billboards, the partment and the f.b.i. could have been involved in some sort of conspiracy to steal the election away from him. bill barr was here at the white house in the last hour or so we're told by the department of justice. it was a routine meeting. if that's the case, then it makes comments even more interesting, particularly the timing of them that he was about to go and face the president in the oval office and tell him, look, we've looked into this and we don't think there's any widespread fraud. no, don't trump hasn't tweeted anything about this in the last couple of hours. he continues to read tweet a number of articles and people talking about how they're possibly could be fraud. his legal team have made a comment. they said that the department of justice has ignored, substantive investigation into the allegations of voter fraud. you remember just after the election, bill barr told investigators that they were to look at any significant allegations . bill barr says that the phone, nothing at all

i'm curious what kind of damage he left at the department of justice. bill barr changed or damaged the department of justice in his tenure there? how wide-ranging could his impact be, you think? >> well, we all heard repeated reports, letters, people resigning from the deparetment f justice all rebuking this attorney general for not doing this job and being america's lawyer, instead seeing himself as the president's lawyer. so the damage is going to be around for a while. i think many people have departed or not even applied for positions at doj washington. that's going to change. it's going to take time to do that throughout the organization. remember, the fbi answers to doj, the bureau of prisons, the dea, marshals, the atf. all those agencies need restoration and some healing period and it's going to take a while. >> let me, if i can, switch gears for a moment and talk to you about something you know very well, that is the hack that has taken place in this country and continues to happen. the recent solar winds hack, several federal agencies being bre

you'll remember the roger stone case, big donald trump ally, the department of justice sent forward a brief saying that they should look again at the sentencing that was recommended by the judge. and of course, he also got involved in the michael flynn case, the national security adviser, who pled guilty to lying to f.b.i. agents. the department of justice under william barr decided that they were going to drop the charges even though the judge was kind of incredulous. that that happened. flynt has no been given a full pardon by don't know, trump, so he has been this big supporter for a long time, but he is saying no. the president has been talking about fraud for the last couple of weeks. we have seen no evidence of that. nothing from donald trump over the last couple of hours. we've been watching his twitter feed, avidly, just in case he's been talking and retreating a lot about how there was voter fraud in the election. but there has been calling from rudy giuliani, of course, who is donald trump's personal attorney, the man leading the fight. and many of these states, he says, the

so, look, the justice department is full of democratic partisans who don't want to do anything, and attorneytalks a good game, but when it comes to riding herd on justice department key issues, it ain't happening. lou: i don't think he talkses a good game, tom, think he's made a couple of timely statements perhaps, but he doesn't even talk a good game. he is not involved in a game. this is an attack on the united states whether it is from enemies domestic or foreign, whethers it is both, i don't know. but i can tell you this, would the justice department and the fbi to do nothing in the face of obvious, obvious fraud and the effort to rug -- to rig elections across this country? this is stupefying. what are the american people to think? what should people be doing? and for that matter, where the hell is the republican party? why are they not demanding right now walking into every statehouse and saying this will not stand? we're going to vote again, and you can like it or you cannot like it, but we're going to see how the votes are counted, and we're not going to be putting up with silly, non

there is a growing tendency to use department of justice to fix all and people don't like something theyant the department of justice to investigate. most claims of fraud or particular lies to a set of circumstances where actors were conduct but not systemic allegations. those have to be run down. they are being run down. some have been broad and

so he has institutionalized the head of the department of justice lying to the american people. t have been broken. he have has used the department of justice as a political tool and if now he pays because he gets fired 50 days before, i would definitely say nobody cares. >> let's just -- but i want to talk to you about this because you were at the department of justice. there was an article written in which it was written, if even barr is ready to defy the president, if one of trump's greatest defenders is ready to reject the false narrative, perhaps we can truly start the healing process of healing the rifts that were exposed during the election. i think the point that they are making there is barr didn't have any space between him and the president at any point during his tenure and even he can't abide by the trump, giuliani clown car that's driving around the country. >> i do think the appointment of the next attorney general is going to be very important in terms of that healing around the department of justice with the career prosecutors and also with the people who count o

any decision coming out of the justice department, in particular the united states department of justicehould be based on facts and the law and shouldn't be influenced by politics, period. >> more here on all of this. biden's view of the justice department appears to be night and day for how president trump views his own attorney general. >> it is traditional and the way that the justice department almost always has run, except when there have been constitutional crises in this country, particularly in the 70s in the nixon era. certainly it did not pop up like the coronavirus and the economy. but it was part of the overall message of returning to normalcy that biden and harris said over and over again. it was interesting that vice president elect harris went back on what she said in the primary. during the primary she was aggressive about prosecuting president trump when he leaves office. first of all, she is not the president. she goes with what joe biden said. it is not unusual. even donald trump during the general election in 2016 said lock her up about hillary clinton and didn't do t

just a simple gut punch to the department of justice, and i think it really, really stinks. >> by the way, this is somebody who is the head of the executive branch of government, under which the department of justice falls. the role the branch is to faithfully execute the laws and this smacks of the same issues you are speaking about and there are futile scheme to overturn the election results. it's coming from the white house. here is what chris christie is saying about that tonight. >> yeah. >> we had problems since sydney powell and other mbs of the president's legal team for blockbuster evidence and none of it has come forward. i'm as disappointed as anyone that the president was not re-elected in november. but the fact is joe biden won the majority of electoral votes. he had 306, and this is a very, very dangerous thing we're engaging in right now. >> the department of justice, tomorrow is bill barr's last day and he has a new acting attorney general that will have to navigate the new dangerous attempt to undo the election, and the morale of the career prosecutors there who look

and he will trust that department of justice to do their job. not going to meddle with the department of justice. hunter biden issued his own statement, and i think the statement speaks for itself. >> brennan: so remaining independent, does that suggest that the incoming attorney-general, whoever that person is, should they recuse themselves from this case? >> i'll let the incoming attorney general decide. that is not my expertise. it is my opinion they should be independent, the department of justice should be independent, and we will go from thre. >> brennan: any timeline on when we might hear who that a.g. will be? >> i absolutely can't tell you. i can't get into the president-elect's mind about when he is going to role out his remain cabinet members. >> brennan: okay. i want to quickly ask you, there was violence again in washington, d.c., antifa was also present, according to our reporters. are you concerned about this kind of violence around the inauguration? >> well, look, we're concerned about violence anywhere, and especially as we go in

so how can barr and the department of justice say they have no evidence of voter fraud?t's a lie. the trump campaign responded to barr this evening saying this, quote: with all due respect to the attorney general, there hasn't been any semblance of a department of justice investigation. we have gathererred ample evidence of illegal voting in at least six states which they have not examined. were many witnesses swearing under oath they saw crimes being committed in connection with voter fraud. as far as we know, not a single one has been interviewed but e the department of justice. the justice department hasn't audited any voting machines or used their subpoena powers to determine the truth. well, the department of justice and the fbi never disappoint if, do they? they are politically corrupt to the core, and that is only a small part of what we must as citizens deal with if we are to preserve this republic. tonight we have a lineup of guests to take on the day's developments and issues. we're joined this hour by congressman jim jordan. also with us, attorney phil kline w

is investigating the son of his opponent or joe biden's department of justice is investigatingcans that is not a tenable situation. special counsel could bring independence of judgment to the matter. jillian: you know, does he have a case there when he is talking about bringing independent judgment to the matter? >> well, he certainly does. the statute that authorizes the special counsel specifically identifies conflicts of interest appearances and conflicts of interest as a basis for the appointment of the special counsel. so i think he's right in that that you want to avoid the appearance. but, there is system devil in the details on this issue. specifically, if you know, it depends on who might be appointed. if the attorney general refuses to appoint, then the question is county president appoint? and there is authority for the president to actually appoint a special counsel. but, it gets more complicated. because if he appoints someone, for example, like sidney powell where there there is rumors about her being appointed, she doesn't have any authority nor would the attorne

department of justice has looked into that has looked into that along with the u.s. department of homeland security and they cannot substantiate these claims from donald trump now at this point there are a series of court cases that have been launched by trump and his campaign regarding the issue of alleged illegal voting practices voter fraud in a number of states those legal challenges have largely been unsuccessful at this point it has been 4 weeks since most of mainstream us media declared joe biden to be the president elect however despite an almost universal consensus donald trump says he intends to keep fighting i just keep on going forward because i'm representing 74000000 people. and in fact i'm also representing all of the people that didn't vote for me the mail in voting scam is the latest part of their 4 year effort to overturn the results of the 2016 election and it's been like living in hell. for more on this let's now bring in jennifer de master anti terror expert and legal analyst and someone jennifer i have to say when this all started to unfold you w

lot more interestingly enough in the interview that bill bards given he also said that the department of justice has essentially become their sceptical for people are not happy with this is you don't like something call on the department of justice to investigate so he knows that there's criticism coming his way he's aware that the president won't be happy but well but what he said but he still said it anyway. do you think that him coming out so publicly and saying it might need that to other republicans changing their minds perhaps when it comes to supporting donald trump's bid to overturn the election. well we know that bill barr is a big supporter of donald trump he's been fiercely defensive many people have said that in fact he's not america's main lawyer he's actually been donald trump's main lawyer he's intervened in cases of trump suit been up in court such as michael flynn former national security advisor and roger stone when he wrote to the court and said look the sentence that you're proposing to give him is way too much he's also intervened the department of justice has asked if it co

on the same day barr said that a judge forced his department of justice to tell us something else. they are investigations allegations of people seeking to bribe their way into pardons. that comes out as rudy giuliani and others are asking for pardons. question is for what? talk about a guilty conscious. "new york times" reports along with the giuliani pardon, trump discuss with advisors to grant preemptive pardons to his kids, ivanka, don jr. and eric and son-in-law, jared. he wants to excuse them for things before anyone says there is an investigation. bad news for trump translates into good news for the drama finally ending around the transition. now we can finally focus on the pandemic trump all but ignored. now more on the breaking vaccine vote from the cdc, the acting director. good to see you doctor. >> good to see you chris. >> priority, 13-1, health care workers and nursing home recipients. hospital workers, essential workers, medically fragile and then them. >> i think that it makes a lot of sense. i worked with the advisory committee. the group that advises on immunizatio

we've had those statements, you mentioned, from the department of justice, the department of homeland security. it's gone through roughly 60 court cases. there's no there there. and the fact that these statements are continuing to be made is weakening this democracy. quite frankly, the republicans are playing with fire and they're playing with our democracy. they're playing with the very foundation of what this great country is built on in order to further their partisan ambitions, their desire for partisan power. that is scary. it's irresponsible. and again, this is dangerous stuff that they're doing. they have to rise up and be patriots and say, it is time that we move on with this country. we've got significant challenges as a country. let's move on. >> so, let me ask you, senator, one more thing here. the president also wants to appoint a special counsel to investigate hunter biden, and there is, of course, a separate investigation into biden's son. now, responding to a question about whether he is confident that hunter did anything wrong, biden replied, "i'm confident," that hunt

the fbi, the department of justice, your state, your state authorities? frankly, i'm not sure. i came forward to got freedom.org, and that kind of led me to where i am right now, but as of right now i don't know if it's being looked into or not. lou: but you haven't been contacted by any law enforcement agency, the department of justice or its election crimes unit, no one of that sort? >> not that we can verify, no. lou: hmm. awe amazing. well, ethan, thanks for stepping forward. we appreciate it, and we thank you for standing up for the integrity of the election. we appreciate it, all americans do. >>> up next here general michael flynn will join us in his first television interview since being pardoned by president trump. we'll take up his four years of political persecution by the radical dems and the deep state and more in just a few moments. it is an interview you don't want to miss. ♪ ♪ lou: we'll be right back, stay with us. with us. ♪ you work hard for your money. with us. ♪ stretched days for it. juggled life for it. took charge for it. so care f

of people switch to working from home. this is al-jazeera these are the headlines u.s. attorney general william barr says the justice department has found no evidence of widespread voter fraud in last month's election in response president trump's legal team has accused the justice department of failing to do enough to investigate allegations over.

the department of justice and the fbi. a citizen trying to bring a case in court to force what the department of justice is trying to do generally because they're not and they spent all of this money dragging it out, trying to dismiss the case. i think because there is no accountability time and time again, they say people need more training, we'll reiterate our policies, this happened over and over again. and they know, again from administration to administration, some of the same people, nothing ever happens to them. so the behavior doesn't change. >> let me ask you a question as a follow up to that. you have been around the fbi, in the fbi and you know a lot about it, the agency, and the process. what could and should be done to the an agency, leadership, or individuals that have an abuse of power. how should the investigation will handled. why can't we close the loop on these investigations. >> some of what we're talking about today. they are fired and with good reason and good cause. with some accountability there, i,

of justice in washington. there are two senses of justice the department of justice everyday americans and the department of justicey biden and the fbi who got -- thought michael flynn were prosecuted with unfairness. it's a dual process of justice right now that you're beautiful. lou: i would just like to have one example of what was fair about his persecution. they framed him and went after him for more than four years. we can't rely on history here. what we have as a nation that has a an assault on decency the american way and individual systems the likes of which we have never seen it when people talk about conspiracy theories whatbo would we have called it f we haven't lived through it? what would we call the ideaav tt the fbi would be the tool of the democratic national committee and the hillary campaign trying to crush donald trump before he could be elected president and once he's elected trying to unseat him from almost the moment he stepped into the oval office. the impeachment inquiries in the special counsel all about cause without evidence and with exoneration for the president and an outright indictme

of a massacre on civilians. what does this say about how he even views these crimes? remember, there are those at the home, the justice department under the umbrella of the justice department which he leads. >> laura, if you're sitting at home and you haven't gotten this message already, today with these pardons you are hearing loud and clear that this president doesn't wear about the rule of law. doesn't care about -- he is all about satisfying his personal grievances as with the pardons of george papadopoulos and trying to unravel the muller report, none of which will stop the fact that he will go down in history as the only american president to be elected with the help of the russian government. securities fraud, stealing campaign, money laundering. he does not care about the rule of law. that is absolutely clear with these pardons. >> not to mention on your screen right now you're seeing the blackwater guards. this time a few weeks ago, kirsten, we were hearing about when it came to firing diplomacy, naming of new cabinet members who were going to be charged with revisiting, restoring the global position of the united state

i was honored to lead the department of justice. i am so proud of the men and women who work there. career public servants devoted their lives to making this a better place and better country. they have a difficult mission. and it was really a privilege to be a part of it for a few short years. where was that? and so without the grace or the humility to simply say thank you, it was an honor to work with you, my colleagues, at the department of justice, i thought the letter was awful. by the way, if you don't know how to write this thing, there are templates and pop eople at department of justice who can help you write it. the notion of praising the president and all his accomplishments and ignoring the men and women of the department of justice that he led, it's what's missing from the letter that really disappoints me. >> barr will leave his position next week just before the christmas holiday. the deputy attorney general will step in. he might have things on his plate. there's discussion of the president doing many more pardons before he leaves office. talk about over the next mon

to this day i'm in civil court trying to or so the justice department to reveal the names of all the specific agents involved and so i thought at one point hold accountability and to stop it from happening to others. onseven long years later it's an uphill battle as the justice department has built taxpayer dollars. it should be no surprise that these agents continue. when top officials dave piper and john brennan provide information to congress about surveillance of american prisons and the cia spying on senate commuters, all is forgiven tand former fbi director james comey, the justice department says he meant no harm when christopher wright falsely testifies to congress there had been no 702 surveillance of these,transfer it to numerousfindings by the court and others , nobody says a word .government officials unlock the names of american citizens, when congress makes referrals for critical charges, we've committed to request relevant documents from federal agencies that are supposed to oversee with fbi cell phone containing possible evidence of corruption, when information is ille

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trumps legal team says there's been no substantial department of justice investigation into any allegations of voter fraud the vine covered the sea they have substantial evidence of wrongdoing in 6 states evidence they've yet to make public or present in court alan fischer al-jazeera at the white house also an election official in the state of georgia has lashed out of president trump after his election stuff there received threats georgia is carrying out a 2nd recount at the request of the trunk campaign it has to stop. mr president. you have not condemned these actions or this language senators you have not condemned this language or these actions. this has to stop we need you to step up and if you take a position of leadership show some. on news now in just weeks before the 1st vaccines a potentially distributed in the u.s. health experts are recommending just who should get them 1st the advisory committee on immunization practices as health care workers and the elderly need to be the priority and support for mandy gallica. in hospitals across the u.s. medical staff are making preparatio

he is not only basing it on the department of justice investigation but also citing the department ofomeland security which has similarly investigated these allegations. >> maybe at the end of his tenure as attorney general he is taking a look at what has occurred and the president is degrading his very own justice department and the fbi and other people who are public servants and maybe he took a look at what they presented to him and said, to himself, i can no longer do this. i don't know if that is his motive. i don't know barr very well. in the ends u, you know, this i the person who is the president's wing man and who flven intervened in the roger stone sentencing and talked about the mueller investigation and man said federal authorities had spied on the trump campaign. now after all of that, he is seeing a president who is trying to undermine democracy and cheat and steal an election, and perhaps, perhaps at the very end, he is now saying i cannot go along with this any longer. >> it's interesting, abby. the president's legal team which continues to strike out in court time aft

how we documents if you produce to the department of justice? >> that is a question for the lawyers. >> i have two final questions did members of the family talked about milking the company as it proceeded to remove millions or billions of dollars of excess profits prior to bankruptcy did you participate in conversations talk about milking the company to take out as much as you could before the bankruptcy took plac place? >> i cannot recall a specific conversation however i disagree with your dissertation what milking the company meant in that context i do think it is being probably taken out of context. >> as part of the settlement discussions and the idea of turning oxycontin into a public corporation a lot of attorney general's oppose this they wanted a stripped-down i would like to submit for the record a letter from the state attorney general specifically from the attorney general of massachusetts who said this is a perversion to get the government involved to promote this drug a way to submit that for the record. >> so ordered. thank you fo

but then the department of justice under william barr with through those charges, he also intervened in the sentencing of roger stone close trump, who was in trouble with the courts as well. and then you'll remember, of course, it was bill barr who stood up and gave his the farce. findings of the miller report into alleged russia interference in the 2016 presidential election. and people said his interpretation of it perhaps made his boss look better. the report actually did something that was supported by bill miller himself, robert mueller himself. what is interesting is that has been a bit of a gap between donald trump and bill barr over the last few months, particularly because william barr did not launch an investigation into joe biden before the election. donald trump was very keen and he thought it would give him an electoral advantage that didn't happen. so there's been a bit of a problem between the 2. this certainly isn't going to endear william barr to donald trump in the final days of his presidency. ok, thanks so much for breaking it down. alan fischer. there live from wh

>> the department of justice gets dragged into politics. there's probably not another agency more devoid of internal politics that the outside world is trying to view or look at the department of justice in that lens? the u.s. attorney has all the authority, is not going to care who's in charge of the senate. is going to continue to pursue this. when i was the u.s. attorney, i went through the bush administration and then i went to a year into the obama administration. we continued our investigation, did not care who was in charge of the senate or whether the president would weigh in. it's very taboo to have a new incoming attorney general to go in and ask for an investigation to be stopped. >> harris: it'll be interesting to see how you biden administration would handle it and who he will choose as his attorney general, all important things. brett tolman, thank you for being with me today. we watch the press secretary kayleigh mcenany on this republican lawmaker demanding answers over democratic oxman eric swalwell and his ties to a suspect

the company for months if amazon can deliver. >>85 inch tv should be able to deliver to the department of justice the straightforward information we officially requested of them nearly 4 months ago. >>the state's department of justice wants details on the company's covid-19 prevention protocols and sick leave policies along with information and data on infections and covid-19 related deaths at amazon facilities across california. the did not mention specific incidents or say how many complaints the department has received about the marketplace and shipping giant want to stress. >>investigation is ongoing and no determination has been made regarding the company's coronavirus protocols particularly amazon's limited responsiveness to date. i also want to stress. we don't have time to drag our feet in response an amazon spokesperson sent us a statement saying in part quote. >>we're puzzled by the attorney general sudden rush to court because we've been working cooperatively for months and their claims of noncompliance with their demands don't line up with the facts, the bottom line is that we're a le

this civil rights act, a new civil rights act will empower the civil rights division at the department of justice to hold law enforcement, prosecutors, judges, facilities of incarceration accountable where there's racial profiling, where there's brutality where there's race or class bias. we need to establish national standards for the use of force. we also need to reform our nation's drug laws, legalize cannabis, stop locking people up for non-violent drug-related offenses. the 14th amendment already guarantees equal protection under the law. when ahmaud arbery is shot in broad daylight in georgia, that makes a mockery of that. we can get it done if we win these two senate races in georgia. otherwise they'll stop criminal justice reform in its tracks. >> jon ossoff, we'll have to leave it there, candidate for the senate there in georgia.

, let president-elect biden is doing, first of all, it is the justice department's responsibility what it is. one of the responsibilities of the department of justice is to review conduct of local law enforcement directed by the violent crime control and law enforcement act of 1994. so all that he is doing, all that barack obama did, is basically saying to the department of justice, "do your job." if you notice, it's not saying systemic racism, it's regarding systemic misconduct. that's not only the department of justice's responsibility to oversee that and to ensure that, i think when you are preaching this message of unity, going forward it is something you need to do. they have been problems within police departments that make it harder for those good cops to do a good job. then with regard to funding, to reform funding, to have people who are mental health specialists assist in his mental health situations. that is really where the vice president-elect has been. that's where central moderate democrats like myself, the majority of the party in voters and the politicians, stand.

of justice. i would expect that my former colleagues of the department of justice would be very loud in their review because they have been in this administration when they perceive the president has overstepped his bounds. >> jesse: i don't know, whitaker. i don't have faith in the democrats. i think they are too crooked. i see how they act. i don't think they will play this by the book. i don't see them feeling there is a conflict. they could just say there is no conflict. and everything is fine and dandy, and we will just go along and maybe the prosecutors in delaware find something. maybe they find something really nasty. they start working it and they start working it and it gets up to the level of the attorney general and he doesn't shut it down. he can shut it down, slow walk it, bring people off the investigation. there is a lot of things to come up the works in there. i have no faith in the integrity of the people that are coming in. i just don't because i know who they are and i have seen how they act. >> jesse, you are right. what we went through with the mueller inc. investigation and i

if this was russia disinformation, are they suggesting the irs and department of justice are part of russia disinformation campaign? it is absurd and there are two things going on here that i think are profoundly important. the first one pertains directly to the biden case, which is the fact that you had intelligence professionals who clearly have not looked into the bidens commercial ties with beijing and clearly not due to the fact that the bidens had no commercial ties to the chinese, they had no expertise that joe biden became vice president. they didn't look at the details and decided to stop on the title of russian disinformation. the level of embarrassment, if they have a sense of self-awareness, thought to be enormously high but there's something even more profound going on here that i think is so important. really since 2016, 2017, it's been russia, prussia, russia. clearly russia represents some kind of threat to the united states. no one is suggesting that but the bigger threat we face by any calculation, if you talk to the pentagon and fbi, the cia, the biggest challenge

, that the department of justice would work independently. utive order on day one of his presidency, to make sure that no one in his administration improperly influences any kind of department of justice investigation. and if they do, he pledges to terminate them immediately. now, biden is someone who obviously, someone who really wants to work for unity, and we are reporting at nbc news, that he does not necessarily want his department of justice to focus immediately on trying to pardon president donald trump, given that it is a very divisive issue, senator kamala harris is someone who actually took the opposite take when she was running for president saying there may not be any other choice but to pardon the president. she of course is now taking biden's side and saying let the department of justice do its job independently. lindsey? >> msnbc reporter, thank you so much. >> senator harris on the campaign trail kept saying she is the only one who can prosecute the case against donald trump. >>> i have so many questions about this. michael zel

and you will change your statement if there is any honesty the remaining whatsoever in the department of justiceanwhile, i wayward fbi director christopher wrong wray is expected to keep husband job is if joe biden is installed as president. that must bring warmth to the hearts of millions who voted for joe biden. it shouldn't but it probably does. wray is the same man who insured that this country would have secure elections before the election, of course, occurred. president trump also fighting the tech titans of silicon valley today. the president said it straightforwardly, that he will veto a new defense authorization act unless section 230 is terminated. in a tweet the president said this, quote: for purposes of national security, section 230 must immediately be terminated. section 230 is the liability shield that exists for no one other than technology and social media companies like facebook and twitter and amazon and google. in order to have those protections, social media sites must act as a neutral platform. that is twitter, facebook, google, others doing no such thing. in fact, doing