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virginia then sued alan dershowitz for defamation.he accuses him of making false and malicious statements against her, including claiming that she is a certified complete, total liar and that she made up the accusations in order to obtain money from a wealthy businessman. and the lawsuit using his former name robert repeat to the core accusations against dershowitz, saying "during the time. that she was being traffic, she was forced to have with alan dershowitz. she was forced to have acts with dershowitz in, among other locations, epstein mansion in new york city." the suit was filed in the southern district of new york. she says it was designed more for the media and the court. they have filed an opposition to dismiss that accusation. >> laura: here now to bruce fonda's harvard law professor and offer of the introduction to the unpublished mueller report. good to see you tonight. why not fight this out in court in an effort to clear your name? >> well, i am going to. i have to do two things. i have to defend the first amendment righ

i spoke with dershowitz at his apartment in new york city. did you ever see epstein with underaged girls? >> oh, no. if i had ever seen jeffrey epstein in any inappropriate situation with an underaged girl, i would have terminated my relationship and turned him in. no way. >> so you are obviously surprised by the allegations? >> we were shocked by the allegations. but as a criminal lawyer being shocked by an allegation doesn't mean they won't defend somebody. >> reporter: alan dershowitz helped negotiate what many have criticized as a lenient plea deal for jeffrey epstein in 2008. dershowitz denies the deal was a bargain, instead arguing prosecutors lacked the evidence to indict epstein for federal sex trafficking charges. they thought they would lose. >> for him it was not a bad deal they got him to be a registered sex offender, to pay vast amounts of money to all the women and to get him to plead and go to jail and expose him for the world to see as a sex offender. i think the feds thought it was the best they could do. >> reporter: an in-d

we spoke to dershowitz at his apartment, dershowitz's apartment. what did he have to say? >> reporter: he vehemently denied the allegations. he had no idea the extent of the allegations when he took on his case back in 2008, but he says defending controversial clients is just part of the job. >> did you ever see mr. epstein with underage girls? >> oh, no. if i had ever seen jeffrey epstein in any inappropriate situation withen underage girl, i would have terminated my relationship and turned him in. no way. >> you're obviously surprised by the allegation. >> we were shocked by the allegations, but as a criminal lawyer, being shocked by an allegation doesn't mean that i won't defend somebody. >> reporter: alan dershowitz helped negotiate what many have criticized as a lenient plea deal for jeffrey epstein in 2008. dershowitz denies the deal was a bargain, instead arguing prosecutors lacked the evidence to indict epstein for federal sex trafficking charges. >> they thought they would lose -- >> they made a deal. they got him to be a registered sex offender, to pay vast amoun

>> i saw allen dershowitz in his underwear. >> stephen: shirley, everybody. alan dershowitz's masseuse, thank you very much, shirley. jon, how about a little travel music. (applause) heartbreaking. of course those weren't epstein's only buddies. into, circle of rich and creepy men is complete without donald trump. that's right. epstein, clinton, dershowitz, trump, we have achieved full mount touch-more. (laughter) (applause). >> stephen: worth it, there you go. trump was a fan of epstein's work back in 2002. he called epstein a terrific guy and said he's a lot of fun to be with. st even said that he likes beautiful women as much as i do. and many of them are on the younger side. many of them on the younger side, that's not a fun quirk about your friend. that is a red flag. my pal jeff balm certificate a lot of fun-- dahmer is fun to be with, it is even said he loves people as much as i do. many of them on the medium rare side. >> stephen: but now-- (laughter) alan dershowitz. (applause) alan dershowitz, i ate one person but very, very old and grisley. but now

here to respond exclusively is alan dershowitz. alan, you've been vigorous in your defense in this case. what does david boies think he has? >> he has nothing. i have them on tape admitting this client was wrong, simply wrong and that she couldn't have been in the places where shehe claimed to have sex. each of the accusers said i didn't do it and then they met david boies and he change their mind. they committed perjury after meeting him.nd there is no coincidence. boies has about the worst record of ethical charges and ethical alleged violations of anyth prominent lawyer in american history. people have gone after him for everything. weinstein. he once paid money to a witness on a contingency fee. the better the outcome, the more money he would get. he was accused of having to close relationship with a client in giving her free legal advice. one judge in federal court in new york said even a first-year ethics student would know thatrk what boies did was essentially unethical. why is he going after me?nt i have to tell you. i have

offer of an intro to the mueller report, alan dershowitz. david, i will go to you first. irony of conservatism is conservative governance in cities benefits liberals. the opposite is true for liberalism. look at the giuliani yearsed compared to what's happening in new york with the basia. at the is falling apart. >> the reality if you look at dinkins to giuliani and what happened in new york, what happened was proper policing and law enforcement. that's not a left or a right issue. law enforcement is frustrated. i talked to officers in chicago not just about the smollett case, but about how they are policing, and they feel that the agency that runs the city doesn't have their back. it's not just the mayor, but b it's the establishment. and now you're seeing the police in some form of a revolt saying we just want to do our job to protect citizens no matter what. that's common in law enforcement. not the outliers that you occasionally have. in the summer when it heats up, you've seen this, the hot days of summer and lead a variety of things that increase and shootings. robb

alan dershowitz is here with some disappointing news for democrats. you want to turn in for that. but first, the culture of disrespect. that's the focus of tonight's angle. last night, we were the first to bring you this disturbing video that sent shock waves through the american law enforcement community and beyond. disgusting and depressing. but this is not an isolated incident. this is what everyone has to understand. this is just the latest in a long line of examples that demonstrates a growing disrespect for the people and principles that most americans still hold dear. since we showed you that awful video last night, another shocking incident serviced from harlem, as officers they are tempted to make an arrest. >> oh! >> laura: their reactions to these kinds of attacks was fears, as you heard right here on "the ingraham angle." >> it makes me sick. >> to our friends in new york, if you don't take care of your cops, shame on you. >> it wouldn't happen if we didn't have a progressive, retro- gressive mayor in new york city who is destroying the quality of life. he's a disgrace

legal scholar alan dershowitz who represented epstein in the florida case is being sued by a woman who claims epstein groomed her and lent her to epstein for sex and says, quote that part of this is clearly motivated by the fact that i've defended trump on constitutional grounds. and there is of course the president himself. epstein's personal address book contained multiple private numbers for contacting the future president who said in 2002 that he had known epstein for fiennes years and described him as, a quote, terrific guy. i'll read more of the quote. he is a lot of fun to be with. it is even said he likes beautiful women as much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side. trump flew on epstein's private jet at least once and epstein attended parties at mar-a-lago though trump eventually barred epstein from mar-a-lago because epstein sexually assaulted an underaged girl at the club. but not before then, 16-year-old virginia roberts she says was recruited by epstein from the mar-a-lago spa. >> virginia roberts was working in the spa at donald trump's mar-a-lago club in pal

dershowitz is up next.il marye mueller hearing. >> laura: like a bad sitcom the mueller saga has dragged on for too long and the special counsel's 448 page report was made public three months ago. look at some of the theatrics that we've had to endure since then. in may house democrats read the entire report out loud to anyone who would listen. that was a thrill. days later, mueller took the unprecedented step of holding a press conference on the report. >> any testimony from this office would not go beyond our report. the report is my testimony. i would not provide informationt beyond that which is already public in any appearance before congress. >> laura: quivering voice. have you had enough? too bad. that was hollywood's turn to make us gag. >> i need loyalty. >> told the president he would never be able to get rid of flynn, like gum on the bottom of your shoe. >> jay sekulow responded. >> oh. sorry. it was not necessary to elaborate. >> laura: it's hard when someone else writes your lines. the game of

alan dershowitz, good to see you again. welcome back, sir. political editor of townhall.com and richard fowler, both are fox news contributor's. thank you for being here tonight. >> thank you, martha. >> martha: richard, let me start with you. would you look at treason, bribery, high crimes committed that you've got 100 house democrats who believe that they can meet the test for that. do you agree with them? >> listen to but i do not think this is a political question, this is a question of mathematics whether or not you c caucus in the house who say who want to impeach the president. the problem you have is this. in the united states and its for the impeachment query will take place or trial take place, you need 67 senators to vote to impeach. right now, i do not think we are near anywhere 67. i think we are somewhere 40. >> martha: jerry nadler and those 100 people are saying this specifically, they don't care. they are saying that we believe believe -- that's actually the cleanest line of thinking in terms of being truthful, right? if you

wealthy individuals, bill clinton, donald trump, alan dershowitz, welcomed back into new york societyng dinner parties and got in with people at harvard, all of that is important in the better so you can better understand how younger girls were victimized, raped because powerful men protected him. i don't think donald trump dodged any bullets, everyone know about people traveling on the leader express and journalists should be following it. >> epstein's lawyer, susan -- >> accused of assaulting two women. >> which he has denied it. >> 2002 quote, i've known jeff, fun to be with, loves beautiful women as much as i do, many of them on the younger side, younger side could have been 22. >> that's right, the stronger connection was bill clinton and time spent with jeffrey epstein, president trump allegedly kicked epstein out of mar-a-lago for alleged assaulting an underaged woman and helped prosecutors to build the case. i'm so glad that the miami herald pursued this, they do give reporters time to work on the very important stories, bothers me that the reason the story got legs again was

couldn't disagree with the excellent alan dershowitz.y, thanks a lot for having me come on right after alan dershowitz. that's a tough act to follow, man. he's the best of the best of the best. i think he's really put his finger on it, which is that mueller is revealing himself not only to have been a bad choice because he was a buddy of jim comey but a bad choice because he's a doddering old man past his sell date and was simply way over his head on this. there may have been a time 10 or 15 years ago when cohave done a good job on this but it's obvious he has no idea of the content of his own report which means he probably hasn't read it which means he certainly didn't write it. now, all of the headlines before the markets opened were oh, my god, mueller contradicts the president, he says there was no exoneration of collusion, because collusion isn't a crime. well, so the s&p futures traded down ten points before the open. then as soon as the guy actually starts talking and people realize he has absolutely nothing to say, we go back to

alan dershowitz who has been locked in a court battle over accusations that have been leveled against him and he has helped advise jeffrey epstein. and, of course, the president of the united states, whose quote i read to you before. it does seem likely that we're going to hear more about that. what do you think? >> i think we're all waiting to see that so many -- these victims were just abandoned by so many layers of institutions and people, and we really are waiting to see what -- who else was involved, who else was complicit, who else facilitated this and who else needs to be held accountable. >> that is the question that is sort of hanging over these entire proceedings. mindy marquez gonzalez and carol lam, thank you both. >> thank you. >> joining me now for more on acosta's connection to all of this, senator tim kaine, democrat of virginia. senator, what's your reaction to this story today about intelligence? jeffrey epstein. >> well, i am glad that it looks like epstein might finally get justice for his victimization of so many of these young girls because the sweetheart deal th

. >> alan dershowitz. prince andrew.n't know completely the relationship that jeffrey epstein has with all these powerful people. >> there's no indication, as i said here at this point, because we haven't seen any of the charging documents. the recruiters to this point, that's something we're going to have to follow closely, from a political standpoint. i have in here, will take me a while to dig it up. fight records that the service detail on jeffrey epstein's plane. president clinton, that is. i think that's something we have to follow. it's possible this could be a one and done. it is something that we will have to watch closely, with tentacles. >> that court appearance, scheduled to take place tomorrow. >>> next on "up," a new report to show what families are preparing for the ice raids that president trump has promised. >> we will be removing large numbers of people. >> in a week? >> some time after july 4th. y 4. but only 11% of its executives are women, and the quit rate is twice as high for them. here's a hack: m

an intro to the mueller report, alan dershowitz. but i will go to your first, david.ervatism is conservative governments benefiting conservatives and liberals, but to the opposite is true for a liberal cities. look at the rudy giuliani years compared to what is happening in new york with bill de blasio. the city is falling apart. >> if you look at what happen in new york, what happen was proper policing and law enforcement. that is not a left or right issue. a law enforcement is frustrated. i talked to officers in chicago not just about the jussie smollett case, but about how they are policing. and they feel at the may oral agency that runs the city does not have their back. it is not just the mayor, but the establishment. i know you are seeing the police in some form of revolt saying that we want to do our job to protect citizens no matter what. that is common in law enforcement, not the outliers that you see. and the summer when it heats up, you see this. the hot days of summer leading to a variety of things that increase in shootings, but robberies are also up. if

alan dershowitz says the accuser is a proven liar. in 2008, epstein struck what i has now been called the deal of a lifetime with florida prosecutors. he pleaded guilty to only three charges, despite a 53 page investigation that resulted in an fbi indictment. he went to jail for only 13 months, but during that time he was allowed to leave, go to his office during the day, and then check back in in the evening. the prosecutor handling the case at that time was alex acosta, who is now president trump's labor secretary. here he has during his confirmation hearing because as you would imagine, he was asked about his role in the case back then. watch. >> at the end of the day, based on the evidence, professionals within the prosecutor's office decided that a plea that guaranteed that someone goes to jail, that guaranteed that someone register generally and that guaranteed other outcomes is a good thing. >> martha: so my next guest demanded after reading explosive story that came out in the "miami herald" just about a year ago, asked the de

alan dershowitz told me he got a massage at epstein's house and he clarified that it was from -- thisaw no 11 age. what's going -- what is this? what are we talking about! >> he's a big democratic donor. in the other part of the story is president trump banned him from mar-a-lago for allegedly assaulting an underage girl and president trump cooperated with prosecutors on the epstein case. there's all kinds of little details here being left out, but he was a big democratic donor. >> the picture is of someone who may have gotten away with horrible and heinous acts for years simply because of who they were connected to and who they were afraid of. >> bret: i want to go down the row about this census question and whether it's actually going to happen. >> i just got off the phone with a senior administration official. if it is likely to happen tomorrow, that some sort of executive action -- i can't confirm that it's definitely happening tomorrow, but likely something tomorrow, executive action of some form whether a memorandum. >> bret: which kind of goes around -- >> force this on to the

>> alan dershowitz is my criminal law professor and this is not a good look for him.we know that all of this material, this evidence, is going to come out shortly, and he seems concerned about what it might say about him who also needs to be concerned, joy, about the president of the united states. in 2010, epstein gave a deposition in which he was asked, are you aware of any contacts between you and donald trump with girls under the age of 18? epstein said, i'd like to answer that question but i can't. he asserted the fifth. and joyce is absolutely right. now he's going to have strong incentive to actually answer that question to try to make some kind of deal to prevent him from going to prison for the rest of his life. now, i don't know if the prosecutors would take that deal, but if he's got any incriminating evidence on donald trump, it's going to be a powerful incentive to give trump up. >> glenn, i'll come to you on this, because the fact that alan dershowitz felt he should single them out, saying, that's why they're coming after me, you have that this case is h

in the case of the very wealthy, the dream team, ken starr, dershowitz, the works. in 1992 the footage was shot for a faith daniels talk show called a closer look, which profiled the then newly divorced trump. during that episode, faith daniels and trump described the circumstances of how he ended up on the show. let's watch. >> i don't know why i'm even on the show except we want to give you good ratings. i said to faith -- >> how generous. >> major, major ratings. you are. you're going to get big ratings. >> tell the rest of the story, though. i saw you at the celebrity chef dinner here in new york. >> and what a kiss. >> you kissed me on the lips in front of the paparazzi. and i said that will cost you. i'm booking you on the show. >> it was so good. so open and nice. she is a fabulous woman. >> so open and nice. >> and her husband is a handsome devil. >> this evening we reached out to the white house to respond to this exchange. we're waiting for a response. however, the unprompted kissing that trump describes to faith daniels in the clip describes the behavior

she's also said that she was assaulted by jeffrey epstein's lawyer alan dershowitz kefir san francisco billionaire tom stier is officially making a run for the democratic presidential nomination that announcement today. >>it's a turnaround after stier ruled out a run in january. he's best known as a political financier is a hedge fund manager worth roughly one 0.6 billion dollars stiers donated more than million to democratic candidates in the past 3 election cycles. likely he has been running his own self funded tv commercials, calling for congress to impeach president trump billionaire tycoon into time former presidential candidate ross perot has died best known for running, one of the most successful 3rd party presidential campaigns. in 1992, we got nearly 19% of the vote as an independent. he ran for president again in 1996 under his newly created reform party, he got only 8% of the vote that time perot became a billionaire in the 1980's after selling his data processing business too general motors ross perot was 89 years old. >>the news tonight, president trump is considering usin

at the time epstein had formed a legal dream team including alan dershowitz who insists the 2008 plea deal was fair. >> they got him to be a registered sex offender, to pay vast amounts of money to all of the women and to get him to plead and go to jail. >> reporter: michelle licata says she was 16 when a friend recruited her to give epstein massages. she never got a chance to confront him in court because of the plea deal. >> i really just wanted to be like, hey, do you remember me? of course not because it's been so many other girls you couldn't even put on your hands like, oh, yeah, i remember that one. i ruined her life. >> reporter: epstein has pleaded not guilty to the new charges. white house chief of staff mick mulvaney is dismissing a report that he wants acosta to be fired. mulvaney says the relationship is, quote, excellent. >>> breaking overnight, a major development in the disappearance of a mother of four who gave birth to twins in december. police in kentucky say they found human remains about 30 miles from lexington on the property of a potential suspect's family. sava

whether or not you told your counsel to fire him, and you have the authority, quoting that alan dershowitz, many unconstitutional attorneys, under many articles, you could've fired mueller yourself. but my question is, now that you saw how little he actually knew, do you have a different opinion of him push her mind to do at any point almost feel sorry for him, during this? >> president trump: so, how the absolute right to fire him but i didn't. and i never suggested to do it. but i had the absolute right to fire him under article two and perhaps for other reasons but, i didn't do it. i didn't do any of the things -- you know, when they said he was going to do this or said he was going to do that, didn't you with any of that and it's really incredible when i hit us. the whole construct concept of absorption, when they create a phony crime and is just a terrible thing to say about some of. especially somebody that loves the country is much as i do. so, they create this phony crime and then they say he obstructed. they said there was no collusion but he obstructed. and there has never been a

were one that -- the prosecutors were afraid of the strong defense team, which included stone and dershowitz. they didn't want another o.j. on their hands. and i can understand that. and they were afraid the defense attorney would tear apart these young girls. now, if they don't -- i think that's going to be really helpful in terms of making sure that epstein goes to jail this time and not for 11 months, at least that's the hope. >> yeah. >> and that they have enough in early its of what happened in new york. i don't think they're going to be able to res very it -- >> you wrote a book with someone who has known him famously in the past. it's a fiction thriller. let me read this for everyone. president clinton knows nothing about the terrible crimes, jeffrey epstein pleaded guilty tro some years ago. or those with which he has been charged in new york. what has president clinton ever told you about jeffrey epstein? >> nothing. and i don't think he's thought about epstein. here's matt lauer, did anybody know? i don't think so. you just don't know things -- >> i don't know if no one knew. >> we

allen dershowitz among others and all of those people are having their connections to epstein scrutinized in greater detail than ever in the past the outline oz of the epstein story and the connection to acosta have been well established in the public record for at least five years. there was a book written about it by antitrafficking activist the minute acosta was nominated, i was surprised to hear his name put forth as a potential nominee because i said i couldn't believe this administration would be intersested in having this dis cushion we had a story on the 90-minutes after he was nominated this information was out there and no one in washington has acquitted themselves particularly well in terms of the vetting process for a cabinet nominee. year not talking about an obscure position in the federal government here. >> hey, john, considering the quote i saw from a member of congress, which may be an apt warning, letting people know the mueller testimony may be akin to a book on tape, what does the delay mean to you and what should our oaudience know about it >> it may be a very dull b

they're worth, one, that the prosecutors were frightened of the team that he put together with dershowitzthey didn't want another o.j. the second thing was, i think the defense had said that they would eviscerate these girls on the stand. they were kids. they would paint them as prostitutes. it would be a horror show. >> dana: the other controversial thing, the plea agreement is kept from the victims. they don't know this is happening. >> right. >> dana: a big bone of contention. >> huge. and that they give immunity to every one attached. all the people out after epstein. >> dana: we talked earlier in the first block about these famous people that knew epstein, maybe they didn't know anything. there were people that were helping him and they got immunity. how is that? >> another part of the justice that astounds people and it should. >> dana: what is the mood in palm beach about this? >> interesting. after the book came out in 2016, hundreds and hundreds of people said thank you for writing that book as opposed to we don't really want to have that story out about the town. it wasn't about

dershowitz among those who beats her up on a regular basis.o when you're beat up like that, you stop -- i mean, she hasn't named any names because she's afraid. so we'll have to wait and see. >> wow. >> what happens. >> julie brown, thank you very much. we really appreciate your reporting. we'll have much more on this story in our next hour. and please come back any time. >>> coming up this hour, president trump is warning that iran better be careful as tehran vows to boost the uranium enrichment in defiance of the 2015 nuclear accord. we'll talk to the member of the foreign relations committee chris coons about that and richard haass will join the conversation. "morning joe" is back in a moment. tion "morning joe" is back in a moment most people think a button is just a button. ♪ that a speaker is just a speaker. ♪ or - that the journey can't be the destination. most people haven't driven a lincoln. discover the lincoln approach to craftsmanship at the lincoln summer invitation. right now, get 0% apr on all 2019 lincoln vehicles plus no payme

. >> epstein's lawyers were alan dershowitz, lewis and jay, demanded that the deal be sealed and keptin's victim, acosta, e-mail notification was required under federal law, so, richard, how much collateral damage will be done as prosecutors go after jeffrey epstein and attempt to bring justice to his alleged victims? >> look, i think that line did it, the low-lying fruit as misty mentioned prosecutorrary misconduct. if the federal law say that is the witnesses need to know what happened in the case and they didn't follow that, they better have a very good reason why they didn't follow that. the power house team has included part of its client, others, that's a very serious legal team that basically had just as much resources as the federal government, and i think that's something that's going to be looked into in terms of what also the legal team had to do with creating pressure and witness intimidation potential witness intimidation and paying off witnesses to weaken the prosecutor's case, i think that's another aspect that we have to take a look at that might come into what the fal

. >> it's called no safe spaces and it's a film that's coming out in september, but we get alan dershowitz in everyone from cornell west, jordan peterson, everyone from all different spectrums and we sit down and really start drilling down on free speech and where it's heading. it's an interesting thing. first sidebar, my grandfather, a hungarian guy, i love hungarian food. i've often thought, control the language, control the argument, control the outcome and i noticed, a long time ago when i was doing a show called love line with doctor drew, 20 years ago, people would call in and they would say, so i was raped and i would say okay, so you're a victim of rape and they would say no, rape survivor and i would say okay, rape survivor, not a victim, survivor, okay. later on someone would call and say i'm seeing in paired and i would say okay are you blind and they would say no seeing impaired and i would say but does that mean blind and i started realizing their grabbing, they take the word divisive and turn it into divisive i may start winning, you can win an argument not with facts and sta

that's probably a less convincing argument to make politically like how could we stand up to alan dershowitz and these two other lawyers. >> kenneth starr. >> it was this assault and we couldn't withstand it. it's a pathetic excuse. that's kind of the best case scenario, the least corrupt version of what happened here is that they folded in the case of all of the money that he had to spend on his defense. >> i also think about cy vance in the manhattan district attorney who has quite a record that there was evidence of criminal wrongdoing by the trump children in misrepresenting in violation of criminal statute of law the vacancy rates of a condo they're trying to sell. just didn't press charges. vance also got money from the trumps. harvey weinstein with the tape, the infamous tape. cy vance doesn't press charges. and in this case, they asked to downgrade what level of sex offender he was. the judge is what the heck you doing? it makes you wonder. >> and incompetence in dsk. the list goes on. and there was there was a columbia university ob/gyn 19 accusers in the sexual assault. vance's off

time, for epstein, notable attorneys he had on the payroll, roy black, kenneth starr, and alan dershowitz. despite repeated calls for acosta to resign or for at least president trump to fire him, neither has happened. >> shepard: epstein connected to a lot of big names. >> a lot of big names, fellow superrich people. even prince andrew, the duke of york, the super rich, super wealthy headphones manager socialized with president clinton, who has reportedly written on epstein's private plane more than a dozen times which was known as the lolita express. president trump before he was elected in a quote to "new york magazine" said "i've known jeff for 15 years. terrific guy. he's a lot of fun to be with. he's even said that he likes beautiful women is much as i do, and many of them are on the younger side." over the weekend, house speaker nancy pelosi's daughter, christine, also a member of the democratic national committee, she suggested some of our quote favorites could also be caught up in this and that on behalf of the victims, we shoult the chips fall where they may, whether those people

and the letter that he wrote, alan dershowitz who's been accused of wrong doing, alan dershowitz's letterlitzer committee arguing that the miami herald and julie brown should not receive a pulitzer. this for a man already accused and for a newspaper and a reporter who has done what, my god, nobody in the federal government or any state government has been able to do and that is to bring this man to justice. >> yeah, we should point out that professor jesuit has counter sued on that accusation, denied it vehemently. the bottom line to your point about the miami herald. the miami herald is a newspaper, enemies of the state, enemies of the people as donald trump has referred to much of the media and without the miami herald, without julie k. brown writing doggedly over many many months about this story, none of this would have been exposed. >> that is for sure, and we will stay on this story as well. >>> coming up, we have new polling out of new hampshire to show you. we're digging into the new numbers and that is straight ahead on "morning joe." numbers and that is straight ahead on "mornin

dershowitz. because they knew the guy. >> i have to jump in. i'm not saying guilt by association.hat do you want me to invite you on and not ask about questions in the news about a sweetheart deal from acosta. >> he's some pedophile. my experience with donald trump is if he sees somebody as a bad apple. whether something perverted like this. he will stay as far as possible. and it's come out in press reports, as soon as they heard about some of this they said he wasn't allowed at mar-a-lago. i never knew -- >> it was because of the federal charges against him. they revoked his membership. >> even before that? i had been a member. i had never seen him there. nobody mentioned his name. the idea donald trump is somehow associated with this guy is he knew the guy he knew him socially. he said nice things about him. it's now coming -- >> people are asking -- you're thinking it's because someone people want to associate donald trump with that behavior. >> you keep putting quotes. >> it's about alex acosta. >> democrats kp people that received money and campaign donations from him. that

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across at different times, both president trump and former president bill clinton and figures allen dershowitzmong others the connection to accoosta have been well established in the public record for at least five years. there was a book written about it about an activist five years ago or so and the minute he was nominated i was surprised to hear his name put forward for labor secretary because i said i couldn't believe this administration would be interested in having this discussion we had a story up on 90 minutes after he was nominated so this information was out there and really no one in washington has bathed themselves in glory or acquitted themselves well in the terms of the vetting process for a cabinet nominee. not talking about an obscure position. >> considering the quote i saw from a member of congress, which may be a very apt warning letting people know the mueller testimony may be a kin to a book on tape, what does the delay in the mueller testimony mean to you, what should our audience know about it? >> it may be a very dull book on tape if it's rendered in that way and certai

among the others in his orbit as well, prince andrew and attorneys alan dershowitz and ken starr who helped get him that deal back in 2008. >> erica hill, thank you so much. >>> we have former federal prosecutor and cnn legal analyst laura coates to help us wade through some of this stuff now. so this case is being handled by the sdny, the southern district of new york. the public corruption unit. but in this press conference we were told by officials there not to read too much into that. what do you think? >> it's hard not to. normally the public corruption unit is in charge of handling people that are elected officials, people in positions of power, not hedge fund people and billionaires. unlike what happened in florida where they gave immunity to people who were aquaintances or associates in some form or fashion, it's a whole different ball game in new york. different jurisdiction, different prerogative and discretion to be used so they may be looking at people that may be accomplices and perhaps they fall under the category of public corruption. >> i want to ask you about two thi

with high-profile attorneys ken starr and alan dershowitz representing epstein back then, acosta cutlea deal on lesser state charges which sent epstein to county jail for little more than a year and required he register as a sex offender. the sentencing so lax, though, epstein was allowed to continue working while serving time. >> i really don't know too much about it. i know he's done a great job as labor secretary. that seems like a long time ago but he's done a fantastic job as labor secretary. >> reporter: the handling of the case being done by the justice department after republican senator ben sasse sent a letter to the doj questioning why the agreement brokered with epstein was "a sweetheart deal." in court epstein's attorneys argued today's indictment is a do-over for the florida case but the u.s. attorney said the agreement made in florida has no bearing on the new charges. >> that agreement only binds by its terms, only binds the southern district of florida. the southern district of new york is not bound by that agreement and is not a signatory to that agreement. >> report

, the actual devil's advocates, the advocates for epstein were ken starr, jay leftowich and jay dershowitz and high powered people doing all sorts of things to intimidate everyone involved and i'm not saying within the legal system and i'm sure on the stand try to destroy every one of the victims. is there not a case to be made by somebody like acosta that, look, these girls were, as we know, incredibly vulnerable, a lot of them a step away from homelessness, according to the "miami herald" report, and that it was a mismatch and that most important was getting them in jail and as a registered sex offender and that was the decision he made and maybe it doesn't stand up to scrutiny today but at the time he was trying to do the right thing. is that possible? >> yeah. look, you have him in jail but he was able to go to work every day and continue racking up millions and millions of dollars. but, again, yes, he's entitled to lodge a defense and it would have been in their right to attack the credibility of witnesses. that is what works in the system. but these are 14-year-old girls and there we

"epstein's influential allies have included a dream team of defense lawyers including alan dershowitz, former clinton special counsel kenneth starr, leading white-collar defense attorneys lefcourt, roy block, jay lefkowitz." underscoring people's belief, already hardened, that you can indeed buy your way out of trouble in this country. >> and unfortunately we're still seeing that today. this isn't a problem of the past. this is a problem of the present, of two systems of justice. and it's interesting because acosta in 2011 wrote sort of a statement i believe to the daily beast where he talked about it and used the word assault by the defense team, epstein's defense team, on the prosecutors and it was so hard to fend them off. that is just another way of saying there were these high-powered defense lawyers who we couldn't -- we couldn't, you know, fend off. we couldn't resist. well, that's your job, though, as a prosecutor. you're not some lone, you know, ship out at sea. you're part of the department of justice. if you really feel like you're being overcome, overpowered, then you have

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that is why you have a guy like alan dershowitz in shock that these people are being lionized like thisn: how does mueller justify fara investigations -- you and i both know that is usually fell out the form, see you later, or lone applications, or taxi medallions, and taxes from a decade gone by. ignore steele's dirty dossier, that the other candidate -- that was used to spy on a campaign. >> he was a hit man. he wasn't -- he would not of hired andrew weissmann if he didn't care about the truth, what he? he would not fire jeannie rhee, the counsel to the clinton foundation. >> sean: put you in jail and i will be right next to you. >> i would not hire people like that. i would have kicked them out. when he did that, i said to myself, what the heck is wrong with him? i figured out what is wrong with him. he's basically asleep. the reality is that this was a plot from the very beginning to frame trump. that is what you will find out. it's rather complex. it has a whole counterintelligence spin to it. it's going to get worse and worse and worse. why is this the first time somebody sat down

it includes president trump, former president bill clinton, attorney alan dershowitz and prince an did you. after a 2008 deal allowed him to plead guilty to much lesser state charges in florida of soliciting and procuring a person under 18 for prostitution. epstein served just 13 months behind bars and most of it was on a work release program in a private wing of a county jail. where he got to leave six days a week to work in his own office. he was required to reach financial settlements with dozens of his victims, of course he can do he's a by lone injuil. that deal was overseen by current labor secretary, a member of president trump's cabinet, alexander acosta. acosta has defended the plea deal as appropriate under those set of circumstances. the deal details were brought into light in a series of reports that came from "the miami herald" last year triggering intense scrutiny. back in february a federal judge ruled that prosecutors led by secretary acosta violated the rights of epstein's alleged victims. after two of them sued the government for not telling them about the deal until

even alan dershowitz has a relation to this case so the president saw this was going to continue to turn up the heat on his administration and on his white house, on himself personally. he didn't like how it was playing out on cable news and that's part of the reason he accepted this resignation. >> back in 2002, the president told "new york" magazine i've known jeffrey for 15 years, terrific guy. he likes beautiful women as much as i do, many of them on the younger side. so businessman trump knew about jeffrey epstein and apparently knew about jeffrey epstein's problem. it's worse than that. today, today, ever we time this came up in coast, secretary acosta would be in the news and today the president tried to make clear yet again, yes, we had, emphasis on had, a relationship. >> i was not a fan of jeffrey epstein. you watched people yesterday saying that i threw him out of the club. i didn't want anything to do with him. that was many, many years ago. it shows you one thing, that i have good taste, okay? now, other people, they went all over with him. they went to his island. they went