i am wondering if that is in another dgo, so you do not need that? >> i think some of the tweaking of the language was done with the help of the city attorney, as well. i am satisfied with the current language, but i think it was part of the tweaking done by the city attorney. do you have a comment? director hicks: it was vetted by the city attorney. the occ was not part of those meetings, but that is an exclamation -- explanation. >> i believe general orders 202 and 203 go to that. vice president marshall: commissioner dejesus? commissioner dejesus: the information that is in the bulletin, you put on the powerpoint? i am concerned if it does not consistently shown, or is old, that we might lose that todd karkovice, so i would just advise you to find a way to stay current -- that we might lose that tactical advantage. to coincide with that dgo. vice president marshall: i think he got the message. thank you. commissioner hammer? commissioner hammer: a few weeks ago, dealing with some other options. we directed a review of all tactical situations. as p

other dgo's and police practices, which they addressed to the police commission, which i am sure you are aware, and then on another note, i will discuss the specifics, and as your calendar permits on april 27 or may 11, i would like to provide the third quarter statistical report, and that concludes my report. commissioner: i also want to comment on that. the middle eastern, muslim, pet and intelligence gathering, just what you're talking about. there are more issues, and they have asked for changes. i have had a meeting with the department and hopefully will have further meetings about making potential changes to those dgo's. there was also an issue about the joint terrorism task force and what is a memorandum, and at that meeting, we were told that we could not get that information. however, but the question we have is that the current memorandum be at the police department. there is a lot we have to add to the calendar," as well as, i think commissioners slaughter and mazzucco -- i think we should put on the agenda to discuss the entire report and recommendations that they have ma

in nature, so we proposed that when there is training on the new dgo, should it be adopted, that the training include the following, the officers shall not intention to place themselves in harm's way by standing in front of a moving vehicle, standing directly behind a moving vehicle, or reaching inside a vehicle. secondly, provisions exist because moving to cover, repositioning, and/or waiting for back up to gain or maintain a superior tactical advantage maximizes officer and public safety in minimizes the necessity of using deadly force. -- and minimized the necessity of using deadly force. -- and minimizes the necessity. thank you. vice president marshall: thank you, director hicks. commissioner hammer? commissioner hammer: i think we should put this in plain language for the people of san francisco who are watching. because we have a situation where officers were finding themselves in situations of firing on cars, an incredible risk that they happen to hit the driver in the car, and it would have unintended consequences. some kid walking across the street, -- the perception that i

one of the findings was to change dgo's. i did put that on. i invited members of the joint task force. they cannot discuss it with us because george gascon had not gone over the changes. we did bring up the joint terrorism task force. we did ask a member. we were told that would not be released. i was told even as a member of the commission that we do not have clearance to know the information. one of the other things of concern to me is that apparently the president reads them and signed off every six months. we only get the cryptic report. i am concerned. each commissioner has a duty to the citizens and department to understand what is going on and whether policies are being met or violated. when we get the audit, i cannot tell. we have a duty for each commissioner to know. i agree that transparency in the audit should be provided. i understand safety is an issue. the other reports used to be much more detailed than what we have been getting in the last year or so. another thing that i think is a no-brainer is that we want to add actual or p

there is literally nothing binding within the city government, police commission, or dgos that say that new police officers that come on have to follow anything. the mayor -- there could be one mayor who is really into -- your boss is not the board. your boss is the police commission and the chief executive. if the mayor says with executive authority, the constructed completely. they should have that flexibility. but the question is it has always leaned in that direction. when is it going to lean in the direction of being a main emphasis on community policing? i think that is where we really get down to the bottom. chief godown: i think the definition of community policing is going to be to find what the definition is of the people behind me. my concern is that you are backing me into a corner to legislate what community policing should or should not be. as an interim chief of police, i should have some flexibility as to how to deploy more resources. i think the captain gave a phenomenal power point presentation. i can tell you one thing i do agree with. there is not enough focus. i see

do you anticipate this crisis as j in thest for the dgo upcoming talks clean the slate and start all over? will be the impact? >> it is a great question. but there is that the japanese government, political and bureaucratic, will be focused on the issues like relief reconstruction that they would not have time to face what is politically controversial in japan. we have the road map agreed to five years ago, basically. very little progress has been made. there were setbacks. ambassador togo referred to the use of assets on okinawa. and for the american contribution here, and that is probably not trivial. i hope that improves the environment. i think americans have also learned in the last couple of weeks that it is better to say not -- say -- better not to say too much about okinawa at all. >> i noted two things. the first thing is that president obama nominated a secretary, after the nuclear crisis, the markets of europe dropped more than the stock market of the usa. [unintelligible] my colleagues also want to ask you another question. the prices -- >> do you want to talk about energ

moved up to -- the surveillance is a significant one, and that should be moved up so we can do those dgo's. unreal other hand, i do believe there are policy issues that the commission should address. vice president marshall: here is my question? how do we do this without having to retreat could i am comfortable with assigning a few, i am. commissioner kingsley? commissioner kingsley: well, commissioner marshall, keeping in mind what all of the commissioners of expressed about working within the overall policy and structures, a structure that we as a commission feel is important as well as retaining flexibility for items that come upped as well as keeping in mind that we will have a new chief at some point soon, i think that we can accomplish all of that in terms of honing in on what our red tier would be, as well as new items that we bring up tonight. perhaps we go item by item and have a vote if we need to get to that point in terms of getting items into that. vice president marshall: i am fine with a couple of folks working on it. i do not know if you want to go through the whole list li