mitch mcconnell and dianne feinstein are weighing in. >>> "this week" with george stephanopoulos begins now. >>> and we have lots to get to this morning. new developments in that amtrak crash, the fbi on the case. but first that daring delta force raid deep inside syria, they set out to capture abu sayyaf, he was killed in the fire fight but u.s. forces did capture his wife and key intelligence and terry moran reporting onnen the raid and terry, this was a risky operation. >> reporter: it certainly was, good morning george it was high-risk operations sending these american troops deep into the heart of isis-controlled territory in syria. the intelligence was good enough, the target valuable enough and the delta forces lethal enough to roll the diagnosisdice here. the daring raid happened overnight friday. the delta forces taking off from iraq. heading deep into syria. capture and interrogate abu sayyaf. former special forces officer. >> this is not just another person. >> reporter: counterterrorism official tells abc news sayyaf is believed to be the isis leader to be given american hos

. >> narrator: california senator dianne feinstein was the powerful chairman of the senate intelligence committee. for years, feinstein and other democrats have told a different version of the story, one at odds with the cia. >> it's a form of propaganda so that the general public believes this is what happened when in fact, the facts don't prove that to be the case. >> narrator: the senators had access to something no one else did. in a secret cia location senate staffers had been authorized to examine a trove of highly classified documents. >> dianne feinstein set the committee on this path to do this massive investigation. that was her objective: to evaluate that question, "were these methods that important? did torture work?" >> narrator: for years, senate investigators had been digging into one of the cia's most secret programs to find the answer. >> they'd given up six years of their lives in many respects to comb through all that material, six million documents, millions and millions of footnotes. >> narrator: the six million pages of internal cia documents tell the history of wh

. >>> senator dianne feinstein went on the record for her support of president obama's trade bill setr a vote later this week. >> i am a born and raised californian. nothing is going to decrease the trade between countries along it pacific ocean. it surpassed the atlantic several years ago. therefore the kind of trade, free trade, the ability to have enforcement mechanisms to prevent anti-dumping, to protect copyright, to prevent forced labor, child labor, is very important and that is what this will do. >> dianne feinstein throwing her support behind this bill. some democrats saying it will cost american jobs. >>> former ceo of hewlett- packard carly fiorina is talking about her approach to foreign policy. during the event she said if she were elected president the first two phone calls would be to israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to say the united states will stand with israel and the second call is to iran's supreme leader. >> he might not take the phone call but he would get the message. until and unless you are willing to open up every single nuclear facility will exact

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in a letter thursday to federal officials, senators barbara boxer and dianne feinstein called the responsible to the spill insufficient. the owner of the run pureed pipeline said it immediately activated its emergency response plan upon confirming the leak. the spill created a ten square mile slick in the ocean. >> off the los angeles county coast, surfers and swimmers are back in the water. beaches have been shut down for three days after oily tar balls began washing ashore. officials re-opened the seven-mile stretch of coastline from man had -- manhattan beach to redondo beach. the source of the tar is unkeir. >> exciting time for the dub nation but this warriors fan has another reason to celebrate. the moment at a game that changed his life, ahead. >>> heading live outside, we enjoyed a warm sunny [baseball crowd noise] ♪ ♪ [x1 chime] ♪ ♪ [crowd cheers] oh! i can't believe it! [cheering] hi, grandma! ♪ >>> this warriors game will be one at a young couple with always cherish and here's why. glen, jr. shared the video with abc7 7 news help was at a warriors game in april with his girlfriend

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california senator dianne feinstein and barbara boxer wants to know whether the pipeline company did not find and report that leak faster. they noticed the problem at 11:30 in the morning, confirmed the leak two hours later. took another 90 minutes to report the problem to the national response center. they also want to know why pipeline didn't haven automatic shutoff valve. pipeline officials say they did it as soon as they confirmed the spill. >>> long stretch of the california coastline would reopen tomorrow morning after waves of tar balls have been washing ashore. this along miles of shore inloo stretching to redondo beach. they don't see any new tar balls in the water. it's unclear if the tar was in any way connected to last week's oil spill. >>> want to check our early friday morning forecast. doesn't matter, rain or shine, it doesn't matter, it's friday. >> a little chilly but the weathering is go to encourage you to head out to the pool or a coast in the inland areas like tri-valley or san jose. but right now it's misty skies and drizzle again in san francisco. oakland, 53 d

the divisions within the parties sebi elizabeth warren side of the democratic party versus the dianne feinstein side of the democratic party, and the john mccain neoconservative wing of the republican party and the jeb bush part of the party versus the rand paul libertarian side of the republican party, these divisions are becoming so much more evident and palpable, that having more people on the stage i think, if i am seeing what you are saying, it seems to be a desperate attempt to finally catch up to the political currents that are actually happening in this country. i think what you are doing is pretty late. i think the people are far ahead of you, and certainly far ahead of others, the old-school thinking that if we have this kind of a center-right, center-left, two-party system that we can promote, that there can be a promotion of the basic ideals of what i call progressive imperialism, which is that forced intervention whether abroad or at home, whereas, you know, newt gingrich is a progressive imperialist on the right, hillary clinton is a progressive imperialist on the left, but their

people like jon kyl and dianne feinstein and so many others worked on it for months. it wasn't passed in a few days without thought. people talked about it. it was on the radio and television. we got letters. we had hearings with professors and constitutional scholars and law enforcement officers, some public and some classified briefings. and we tried to write a bill, and i believe did that provided the federal government an expedited method to access phone call data, metadata as it's called under section 215 of the act. and this data has no content no phone communications at all. it's just phone numbers even less than you get on your telephone bill when it comes to you in the mail every month. that data is maintained at the telephone companies maintained in their records. and everybody that makes a phone call should know that, does know that if they're alert to the world. and so that record is not your personal record. that record is the telephone company's record. now, if you have documents at home, if you have records in your desk, if you have records anywhere in

senator dianne feinstein will address the issue tomorrow on this week with george stephan open list righte on board the marine helicopter have been recovered, the wreckage was found yesterday following days of intense searching in the mountains near katmandhu. we were the only bay area reporter in nepal. he shot this video of the damage from the earthquake. you can see how treacherous and steep the area is. six marines and two nepalese soldiers were killed in the crash. >>> the fbi has joined the investigation into the amtrak crash in philadelphia. this as there are reports that projectiles may have hit that train and several others the night of the derailment. phillip men in a has more from the crash site. >> had is the latest mystery in the derailment of amtrak train 188. a circular shatter mark on the windshield windshield. >> ntsb officials reveal two other trains were reportedly hit by projectiles between 9:05 and 9:30 p.m. that same night. >> an unknown object shattered the windshield. >> it really alarmed all the passengers. >> we're learning one of the conductors on train 188 cont

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it seems to me that the divisions within the parties say the democratic -- the dianne feinstein partf the party. and the john mccain side of the republican party where jeb bush basically is versus the rand paul syrian side of the republican party, these divisions are becoming so much more evident and possible that having more people on the stage i think, if i am seeing what you're saying, seems to be a desperate attempt to catch up to the political currents that are actually happening in this country. i think what you're doing is late. i think the people are far ahead of you and certainly ahead of frank who is of the old-school thinking that if we have this kind of a center-right, centerleft, two-party system that we can promote -- that there can be a promotion of the basic ideals of what i call progressive imperialism. which is that forced intervention whether abroad or at home, whereas newt gingrich is a progressive imperialist of the right. hillary clinton is a progressive imperialist of the left. but foreign-policy positions are basically the same. host: we get a response. guest:

dianne feinstein and barbara boxer wrote a letter to the federal agency that over sees pipelines. they said following one of the most devastating oil spills we need answers about why this happened, why the response was infish and awhat -- inefficient and what can be done to prevent this from happing again -- from happening again. and they asked about an automatic shut off valve so there isn't a delay in shutting off the flow the next time. >>> stanford is assuring students and staff there is no safety left it from a shipment of anthrax. the pentagon said yesterday one of several labs received anthrax with live bacteria. not clear if the vile sent to stanford contained live anthrax. stanferred said the two individual whose handled it took precautions. >>> the fair opened up today in antioch. the fairgrounds were opened for business. this year it features new rides and new foods. >> you bring your dog from home and it is a competition. you get to jump into pool and they see who gets the farthest. >> the animals. children and adults can get a look at ducks and other live stock. it ru

he had developed a good for with dianne feinstein -- repor with dianne feinstein. it was his advocacy that led both democrats and republicans to embrace the program. he was a central figure to the story. it was important in order to get this issue of transparency and oversight that we named him. host: mark mazzetti from the new york times. he is taking your calls and questions. tim in fort wayne, indiana. line for democrats. caller: morning. mark reported that there were 467 drone terrorist attacks in the middle east. how many were reported in 2014? does the cia still deal in drugs? guest: on the question of the drones, the number of strikes in 2012 is actually to hide based on what i know in terms of the actual numbers that have been tracked by different outside organizations. host: we can show the chart included in your story. the drone strikes in pakistan over the years. guest: there's no question the number, the rate of drone strikes has declined to mckinley. it was peeking around 2009. -- has declined significantly. the end of george bush's presidency began wi

senators including senators barbara boxer and dianne feinstein said the emergency response in santa barbara was insufficient. they wrote a letter to the federal agency that oversees pipeline and asked an investigation on the decision by the pipeline operator. they also questioned why the line did not have an automatic shut off valve. >>> a transgender woman has pled guilty to try to burn down the house that was featured in mrs. doubtfire. tykwan river will be held in jail. the doctor specializes in facial service. welsh was reportedly unhappy with the work she had done. >>> the county district attorney tells us it is reviewing ray mcdonalds arrest. he allegedly violated a restraining order. he was also arrested monday morning and accused of domestic assault and child endangerment. mcdonald was released from jail late last night following that second arrest. >>> a long time bay area sports writer died after a battle with parkinsons. he also reported on the warriors and was even there to report on the final beatles concert at candle stick park. ron bergman was 80 years old. >>> scenes of dest

california senator dianne feinstein will be a featured guest.george stephanopoulos airs here at 8:00 right after "good morning america weekend." >> a prayer service will be held in fremont at 1:30 for 55-year-old wells fargo executive killed in the amtrak train derailment he moved from walnut creek seven years ago but still owned a home there. meanwhile the fbi has joined the investigation into the amtrak crash. there are reports that projectiles may have hit the train, and several others the night of the derailment abc news reporter phillip has more from the crash site. >> this is the latest mystery in the derailment of amtrak train 188. acicular shatter mark on the windshield. >> we are having the fbi go out and examine this fracture pat northwestern the windshield. >> two other trains near the philadelphia station were reportedly hit by projectiles between 9:05 and the:30 p.m. that same night. >> an october made contact with the train, shattering the windshield. >> the window is shattered? >> it alarmed all the passengers. now we are learning

. >>> senator dianne feinstein will be in washington d.c.o allow the government to have continued access to our phone records. the senate is meeting in a rare sunday session. the senator told on audience at stanford university last week that the growing threat from terrorists especially from isis is reason enough to support telephone surveillance. in terms of isis, she said she's never seen such evil in her life time. the patriot act is -- will expire laterred tonight. >>> a warning from police about a crime hitting california businesses. thieves of distracting workers and running off with their valuables. wait until you see some of the bait that's being used that the crooks use to get the goods. we have the details. >> in just second the person said everything inside gone. a string of thefts hitting california businesses. what they all have some common, distract and grab. one order orders food makes small talk with the bakery worker with two others make off a a stash behind the counter. this one used their own grandson as a decoy while a de

time today to honor our fallen heros and we're forever indebted to their families and senator dianne feinsteinay serves as a day of remembrance as a day for those who died defending our country and defending our freedom. thank you to all who served. flags on all city buildings will be flown at half-staff for the fallen heroes. >>> sparking internet outrage on this memorial day. ♪ >>> up first the town still not getting a break from torrential downpours, flash flooding and tornadoes. >>> i'm michael finney, ask finney is just ahead. most are taking your questions on twitter and facebook and just search for michael finny and i'll answer your questions here live a little later. >> i'm spencer christian from emoriville. we see clouds getting thicker at the coast again and they'll be moving out over the bay and inland tonight and i'll have the accuweather forecast in just a moment. >> at 4:38, we're checking traffic through walnut creek and this is 680 on the right hand side and >>> record rainfall is causing serious flooding in texas. water rushed over the top of the lake texoma spillway yesterday

. >>> california senator dianne feinstein said she fully supports the daring raids that took out a leadingsyria. abu sayyaf was killed. he was the it money man in charge of the terrorist group's oil and gas operations. as many of you just saw on "this week" feinstein believes the u.s. should use those types of raids more frequently. >> it is the kind of one-two punch that we should do more of. i believe that if we aren't going to put troops on the ground, then we've got to use our special operations forces to go in and collect intelligence, also be able to capture people that might be able to be helpful. >> senators in favor of the trade agreement they should pass next week. >>> this morning family and friends will gather together to mourn a victim of the philadelphia train derailment a prayer service will be held in free font at 1:30 for the 5 a-year-old wells fargo executive. a burial service will follow in hayward. he moved from walnut creek seven years ago but still owned a home in. meanwhile fbi forensic experts are analyzing whether a flying object might have hit the amtrak train. ne

senator dianne feinstein raised questions about this. >> she was enraged as byron pointed out that the president violated the law and didn't give them notification. she was enraged. >> and i think so that 30 day notification and again if something horrific were to happen, which we all hope doesn't, would only, as you mentioned, raise serious notifications about congress' role in this? how can they act to prevent this from happening if they are not notified? >> remember, the president has not expressed confidence or comfort that this will not happen. if he comes out and expresses confidence that all will be well and then these taliban commanders return to the fight, it looks terrible. >> you know got a bus ticket leaving qatar on monday. there is a bus ticket out of there. where they are going, i don't know. who in his right mind thinks that all five is suddenly going to join some, you know happy group and do good things? >> greta, already three of the five of them while they are under supervision are already contacting taliban members. so and they are already. >> this falls under what

. >>> senator dianne feinstein will be in washington, d.c.ecords. the senate is meeting in a rare sunday session. the senator told an audience at stanford university last week that the growing threat from terrorists, especially from isis, is reason enough to support telephone surveillance. in forward isis the senator said she has never seen such evil in her lifetime. the vote is part of the a last ditch effort by the senate to revamp the patriot act which is set to expire at midnight tonight. if they fail to reach a deal some say the country will have a serious lapse in security. >>> a warning from police about a crime hitting california businesses. thieves are distracting workers and running off with their valuables. wait until you see some of the bait that the crooks use to get the goods. we have the details. >> in seconds the person said everything inside gone. a string of thefts hitting california businesses. what they all have some common distract and grab. watch. one woman orders food, makes small talk with the bakery worker while two o

. >>> senator dianne feinstein will be in washington, d.c.he government to have continued access to our phone records. the senate is meeting in a rare sunday session. the senator told an audience at stanford university last week that the growing threat from terrorists, especially from isis, is reason enough to support telephone surveillance. in regard to isis, the senator said she has never seen such evil in her lifetime. the vote is part of the a last ditch effort by the senate to revamp the patriot act which is set to expire at midnight tonight. if they fail to reach a deal some say the country will have a serious lapse in security. >>> a warning from police about a crime hitting california businesses. thieves are distracting workers and running off with their valuables. wait until you see some of the bait that the crooks use to get the goods. we have the details. >> in just seconds the purse and everything inside gone. a string of thefts hitting california businesses. what they all have some common distract and grab. watch. one woman order

listen to what dianne feinstein saying talking about their influence right here in the united states. >> you know isis now has a presence in 11 states. it's a force that we really haven't seen before. and we have to begin to cope more seriously with it. and that includes social media. >> reporter: and it includes trying to make inroads with the islamic communities here on capitol hill. is some say they can -- some say they can get the message out much easier than the federal government. we have raised the security level at 3,000 military bases, after what happened in texas. more of a general threat to recruiting stations and bases. >> tracie potts, thanks. >>> tomorrow a federal appeals court is set to hear arguments over former virginia governor mcconnell's corruption conviction. it is expected on the short, lasting an hour. the fact that mcconnell has been allowed to remain free signals the three-judge panel might see some of the charges as a close call. the panel could take weeks to issue a decision. >>> we have new video of a rescue from an intense fire in prince george's county.

. >> let's take a listen now to senator dianne feinstein, you know she is the vice chair of the intelligence telling abc news today, listen and then i'll ask you about it. >> if we're not going to put troops on the ground then we've got to use our special operations forces to go in and collect intelligence also be able to capture people that might be able to be helpful. now, this was i think a picture perfect raid. everything went according to plan. >> so christian, i mean do you agree with senator feinstein? what about the intel that isis might have that we confiscated in that raid intel about isis? >> certainly i think it's better that the number go person in isis is dead rather than alive and undoubtedly we got good useful information. after all, it's a headquarters and if nothing else a headquarters apparatus is going to have information about what the various elements of the army are up to so hopefully we'll get information from that. we haven't defeated out laktdal qaeda by knocking out the top leaders. isis is a real proto-state. i agree with senator feinstein. the division of special

. >>> i'm joined by the democratic vice chair of the senate intelligence committee dianne feinstein of california. and michael leiter. welcome back to both of you to "meet the press." mike, let me start with you on pete's report. you heard it there. obviously fbi director very concerned. you talked before about the social media issue. walk me through the counterterrorism center. when you were there, how closely did you follow social media and how closely do you think they are doing it now? >> we followed more and more as there were more and more people around the world using it. today it's probably the single thing they are watching more than anything else. when i was there, it was largely about al qaeda and pakistan and grainy videos from bin laden. it got worse in yemen. today the way of messaging, recruiting, motivating and mobilizing people to violence is now through social media. that makes their challenge hugely difficult on a number of fronts. >> the fbi director was quoted in "the washington post" saying this, senator feinstein, "it's almost as if there is a devil sitting on th

here's the vice chair of the senate intelligence committee, senator dianne feinstein. >> my assessment is that it was a success, that this is the kind of one-two punch we should do more of. i believe if we're not going to put troops on the ground then we have got to use our special operations forces to go in and collect intelligence, also be able to capture people that might be able to be helpful. >> nbc's kristen welker joins us now from the white house. what else did we hear today on the topic? >> alex, we're hearing something we don't usually hear in washington which is bipartisan agreement. republicans and democrats largely supportive of this mission calling it a victory in the fight against isis senate majority leader mitch mcconnell saying that president obama "did a good job." not every day you hear him praising president obama. senator marco rubio saying "it was a successful raid." and they both expressed hope that umm sayyaf the wife of that isis leader, would yield to intelligence and potentially lead u.s. forces to other high ranking isis officials. now, there was some criti

from admiral rogers but we heard from jeh johnson and tom ridge and fbi director james comey, dianne feinsteinhese people in the last few days talking about the new risk from isis and these domestic threats and on top of that you raised the threat level at u.s. military bases just over the weekend. is something going on right now? why the immediate ychange? >> they don't have to travel and they can activate twitter followers of isis and send a directive out from syria over the internet and then activate the individuals in the united states. that's precisely what we saw in the garland case. that's the case admiral rogers is correct because we're seeing so much of this internet activity, that's why we're on higher state of alert and every time they send it out, it's targeted at military installations which is why we raised the threat level at the installati installations. >> specifically on what the nsa chief said yesterday. his words scared a lot of folks. it scared me when he said the isis ideology is increasingly resonating with americans. why is that? >> i think that it has gone viral. it's

senators barbara boxer and dianne feinstein now asking the feds to give more details on the responsecompany plains all american pipeline. this happened on may 19 along the santa barbara county coast. crude spilled down a culvert and into the ocean leaving beaches black and created a slick 10 square miles into the pacific. now, farther south, beaches along the los angeles county coastline remain closed this morning as the coast guard investigates balls of tar that have been washing ashore. we are talking almost 7 miles of beach from the el segundo jetty south to redondo beach. clean-up crews have been working through the night to remove those balls. >> our teams that were both on the ground, in the air and on the water have reported that there is -- appears to be no new tar balls or anything additional to the amount that we have recovered thus far. >> so far they have found about a barrel or two of oil that is much less than the massive amounts spilled near santa barbara. so it is tough to tell if the two incidents are related. the coast guard says the beaches will remain closed until

dianne feinstein and barbara boxer wants to know why the pipeline company did not find and report that leak faster. they say pipeline workers noticed the problem at 11:30 in the morning. confirmed the leak two hours later. but it took another 90 minutes to report the problem to the national response center. pipeline officials say they activated their emergency plan as soon as they confirmed the spill. >>> meantime, staying on the topic a long stretch of southern california dose line could reopen in time for the weekend. waves of tar balls have been washing ashore for several days along miles of shoreline. stretching from egg segundo to redondo beach. experts do not see any new tar balls in the water. it's unclear if it's the result of last week's oil spill. >>> in our neck of the woods, good weekend to head to the beach. finally a warmup. >> santa cruz is the place to go. pacifica, maybe not so much. the coast down along highway 17 will be fine today. waking up to some low clouds. let's go over to the weather computer number two if we could. we'll have an el nino update coming up later

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in the intelligence committee, richard or an dianne feinstein cooperated on a cyber security bill that came out of committee 14-1. in ted's old committee, lamar alexander and patty partnered to unanimously pass on young update of no child left behind. in the finance committee, after months of negotiations, republicans after months -- republicans and democrats came together to pass a bill 20-6. in the foreign relations committee due to the work of bob corker and ben cardin, an iran built the white house had been threatening to veto cleared unanimously. the full senate passed it with one dissenting vote and the senate will sign it. the first step is getting committees functioning. the next step is to open debate on the floor and allow senators to start offering amendments. the ability to offer amendments is one of the things that long made the senate, the senate. we had hardly been able to do so in recent years. it hurt, not just republicans, but democrats too. there is a democratic senator running for reelection in alaska next year. the end of his six-year term. he never had an opportun

in that case at least to her case senator dianne feinstein came out and made a very big deal of the fact that the cia was going after staff members that that way but are there tools other than that sort of public appeal congress has to protect its staff and its prerogatives? >> i think that you are lost on these committees unless you have some champions among the members. members who are willing to go with the executive branch and i can think of mr. mondale and others getting into a bit of a struggle in the ford administration during the inquiry on some matters threatening and sometimes using subpoenas. i think we went to court on a couple of issues, so you have to be a fighter and unfortunately the cheerleading species is spreading rapidly. >> they have to defend the fighters within the staff as well and if they don't do that -- >> that's what i really meant if they don't have these champions on the law. it becomes taboo and it begins to revolve around a couple of key people and that's all it takes. i remember on the house intelligence committee where the admiral came up to present the