lynne cheney is liz cheney's mom, dick cheney's wife. this story made the national press too. lynne cheney told me to shut up. summarize this, there was some sort of dispute between wyoming u.s. senator allen simpson, and liz cheney's mom, at a liz cheney campaign event sort of? regardless of the details, a shut up was allegedly thrown. he later said it was three shutups that was denied by the cheney's side, but later confirmed by witnesses who say they heard the shutups, then the cody enterprise newspaper posted a photo of the alleged shutup happening at the event. after liz's mom denied she really did say shut up, allen simpson wrote a statement to the newspaper saying lynne cheney was telling a bold faced lie. this is allen simpson talking. that's one bold faced lie. i've never been called a liar before and it won't work this time. i know folks can get into the old pitch of he said she said, so i'll just leave it to the good people of wyoming to know who is telling the truth here. i lay my reputation flat on the line. whatever, whoever, ever. the exclamation point is in the

. >>> dick cheney said what? >> look who's talking. >> this morning there was an op-ed piece in "the wall street op-ed piece in "the wall street journal." >> rarely has a u.s. president been wrong about so much at the expense of so many. >> who would write that? how about dick cheney. >> former vice president dick cheney. >> chief architect of the war. >> he's attacking president obama over iraq. >> rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much. >> dick cheney is not talking. >> president obama has repeatedly misled the american people. >> dick cheney is talking about president obama. >> pretending that he, dick cheney, wasn't the perpetrator of the disaster. >> i want to be as respectful as possible to vice president dick cheney. >> the man is shameless. >> i cannot find the words to say how i feel. >> i don't think he's the one to be giving us advice. >> we hope you'll join us. >> the hard but necessary task to have restoring american strength and power. >> it was the biggest foreign policy blunder in

dick cheney comes out for dick cheney. he is dick cheney's attack dog. dick cheney comes out because dick cheney thinks he should come out. i think it is time the american people figure this out and quit listening to the man. very frankly he is not an expert on anything anymore. most of the time when he speaks out he is speaking out for some visceral dislike for the way he was treated when he left office which was in my view not as badly as he should have been treated. he is trying to regain ground every time he comes out. >> what about the 500 detainees released under the bush and cheney administration on their watch? does he think nobody is paying attention? did any of these 500 who were released, how can he be so outraged over five? >> we know through military sources and intelligence sources that some of the 500 did return to the battlefield. it is a very egregious statement for him to make after having presided over that and having presided over 200 or 300 or 400, the records will never show us they were actually innocent in prison in places like af

[cheering and applause] for more we turn to our senior dick cheney correspondent michael che. michael che, what is the latest in >> jon, this weekend i met with cheney to talk with him about his role in the iraq war, the past decade of u.s. foreign policy. and as i sat across from him, bracing for another round of blame shifting. cheney paused. it was as if a decade of tension lifted from his face, leaving only sorrow. >> jon: sorrow? what? >> the dam was breaking, jon. he looked at me not as a politician but as one man to another and said, "michael, i'm sorry. i'm sorry for all the pain that i've caused." >> jon: dick cheney said that? >> yep. and as he nervously fiddled with a button on his able pajamas, he went on to say, "plan that release on unlimited troops and money to stabilize countries we have invaded until those countries develop self-sustaining pro weapons democracy is really, really stupid." >> jon: he said "stupid"? >> i'm stupid. >> jon: he said he was stupid. >> end quote. >> jon: so not only is dick cheney so distraught that he's wearing pajamas in the daytime,

i think dick cheney being attacked by dick cheney is a boon for barack obama and democrats to make this case. cheney is the darth vader of american foreign policy except darth vader actually fought in star wars. he sits in air conditioned conference rooms and wants to sends others to fight and die in endless wars. his wall street journal op-ed is a tissue of lies, noz a consequential as the lies he told to get into iraq. it's one lie after another. maliki wouldn't sign a status of forces agreement. you know why? the iranians didn't want him to. why did the iranians have that kind of influence? because george bush and dick cheney took us into a war that removed one of the counter weights to iranians and made iraq an ally of the iranians. >> what does cheney have to gain by taking this position and being so critical of the president? what is his mission here? >> it's an exercise in the endless rhetoric of redemption. he wants to somehow or other redeem the terrible mistake he made. i don't think he believes it was a mistake. i thnk he may believe the lies he told, although how anyone coul

a sense as a way to discredit rand paul as a potential presidential candidate, but now you have dick cheneytting an op ed in the wall street journal. of the letters written in response to it, it's pointed out it's six for six, all against cheney. >> yeah, of course, that videotape was something we first broke at mother jones. rand paul goes on to say that dick cheney used 9/11 as an excuse to go into iraq in order to benefit halliburton. back in those days, you know, rand paul was taking really a conspiracy theory approach to his critique of dick cheney. now with the unraveling of iraq and the rise of sectarian violence, something that dick cheney, bill crystal all said wouldn't happen before they launched the invasion of iraq, rand paul doesn't have to go to conspiracy theories anymore. he can stick to the facts and side with what i think the majority of americans who are now looking very skeptically at what happened back in 2002 and 2003. i think this debate is going to continue on. i think you see a lot of republicans -- a lot of republicans did not come out, did not rush to join dick ch

so dick cheney. george bush give him two jobs when he you know because as john garner nice nice going or whatever f.d.r.'s vice president said that the vice presidency is not worth a bucket of warm. they have cleaned it up. the two jobs were to be in charge of the energy task force the counterterrorism task force the counterterrorism task force was supposed to bring together the information that the n.s.a. the f.b.i. the cia had which we now know from the nine eleven report had that been done would have stopped nine eleven because we had the information. that was dick cheney's job that task force which he was given that job in the third we could january in two thousand and one that task force did not meet until six days before nine eleven and when after they met they decided ok let's start gathering the information and the nine eleven happens this guy allowed nine eleven to happen on his watch and what was he doing during the eight months up until that point in time he was running the energy task for

an abc dick cheney hit back. let's watch both. >> do you think dick cheney is a credible are critic of the president? >> i think the same questions could be asked of those who supported the iraq war. were they right in their predictions? were there weapons of mass destructions there? the war was sold on that. was the war won in 2005 when many people said it was won? they didn't understand the civil war that would break out. >> rand paul and by my standards as i look at his philosophy is basically an isolationist. it didn't work in the '30s. it won't wosh this the aftermath of 9/11 when 19 guys armed with airline tickets and box cutters came from afghanistan to kill 3,000 of our citizens. >> bringing up hit -- hitler again. every time. the differences between a war we have been and whether to go back in again -- >> wait one second. he's bringing up 9/11 as well. we are not in iraq because of 9/11. he's back to the same bag of tricks. conflating the war in iraq with a response to 9/11. wmds, a connection with al qa

>> dick cheney, i like the guy, he's a friend. but from the beginning, i thought it was wrong. >>> exit question. in an interview on cnn with larry king 4 years ago, joe biden said iraq should be one of the greatest achievements of the obama administration. is that the case? >> the president campaigned saying he was going to end wars. he ended the war. we're not going to start it up again. i wouldn't call it a great achievement. >> campaigning and saying you're going to end the war and actually ending the war are two different things. there are big responsibilities that come with pulling troops out of a region. we shouldn't be responding by -- we got our troops out, let's pump more weaponry into iraq and arm the iraqi government. i think the american people want us to stay out, but i think the american people want the government to look at what is the interest of being here? what can we do to help? i credit the administration for having the discipline for pushing back against let's immediately mill tarrize this. >> it's not going

i think dick cheney should run for president.thought one of us needed counseling at the time. i wasn't sure if it was me. some folks -- and i tweeted this -- some folks from team ed responded on twitter. what do you mean? he was already president for two terms. gary said i would love dick cheney to run for president. dems in a landslide and humiliation to cheney. kristen tweeted if i could pick an opponent from the gop bench i would pick cheney without hesitation. we need analysis. . joining me tv legal commentator lionel. first of all, are you for one war or two? i wasn't sure. >> i'm for freedom. democracy is not easy. it's messy. a long, hard slog. remember, they hate our freedom. if we don't fight them there, we'll fight them there. what's interesting to note is what he did and you perfectly said he, in fact, was the president he and his man david adding ton contrived this doctrine called the unitary executive. do you remember that, ed? do you know what that means? >> oh, yeah. >> no one moeknows. it's like faa rvergnugen. he

works at ge. ♪ >>> finally, let me finish tonight with the war of words between bill clinton and dick cheneydeo earlier. the form e president tell an audience in denver if they, cheney and bush, hadn't gone to war in iraq, none of this sectarian violence and chaos would be playing out right now. what stuck out to me, what happened when bill clinton said that. the crowd erupted in cheers. i know, this was a clinton audience at a cgi event. these are clinton fans. you could also read it as the democratic base. for anyone who remembers the 2008 primaries, this made it a noteworthy moment. a democratic audience cheering a clinton on the subject of iraq. because, of course, iraq was more than any other issue, the one that stopped hillary in 2008. the one that gave purpose to barack obama's campaign that ruined what everyone started out assuming would be an easy clinton restoration. hillary and bill, for that matter, could criticize cheney and bush all they wanted over the conduct of the war in 2008, but always the question kept coming back. okay, how come you voted for it? hillary had no good ans

let me start tonight with dick cheney. he is out there attacking president obama over iraq pretending that he wasn't the perpetrator of the disaster. it was cheney who sold the limited george w. bush on going into iraq in the first place. that war of choice we have all come to regret. dick cheney who championed the destruction of the iraqi army, destruction of the iraqi government and banishment of the sunni population from the government in baghdad. it was cheney and his limited partner bush again who decided when the united states should leave iraq and cheney again with his limited partner president bush who signed an agreement with the iraqi government who led to the release of the man now leading the isis streaming toward baghdad and threatening war with the united states. now comes cheney again pretending to have clean hands. once again using a favorable media platform, op-ed page of the wall street journal and creating an oddly states video with his daughter and cowboy hat. his back to the wyoming mountains, face plas

despite those numbers we have seen one of the main architects of the war, vice president dick cheney erge to criticize president obama's handling of the crisis there. even suggesting the president was somehow betraying america. in an exclusive interview on "meet the press," david gregory asked former president bill clinton about cheney's criticism. >> former vice president dick cheney said of president obama in an op-ed that claims that al qaeda is decimated is clearly not true. in fact, al qaeda is on the march. the argument that america is less safe under president obama. do you believe dick cheney is a credible credit quick on these matters? [ laughter ] >> well, i believe if they hadn't gone to war in iraq none of this would be happening. [ applause ] >> it wouldn't be happening in syria? >> well, it might be happening in syria. what happened in syria wouldn't have happened in iraq ar. iraq would not have been as drastically altered as it has been. mr. chain has been incredibly adroit for the last six years or so attacking the administration for not doing an adequate job of cleani

i am still in disbelief that dick cheney recorded that video and made that op-ed. what was your reaction to it? >> well, in new york we have one word for it and that's called huts ba. >> i guess that's a word for it. >> i gets that's unmitigated gall would be the translation. you said it right, the incursion in iraq has been the worst strategic blunder since world with a ii and predicated on a lie, false information and it took the lives of thousands of americans, blood and money beyond belief dick cheney thinks he can now give advice or point fingers at this president makes me scratch my head. it's absolutely unbelievable. >> congressman, we know the president is meeting with congressional leadership about the very issue of what to do in iraq. while there does not seem to be a good option, there seems to be a consensus that something needs to be done. what do you think that thing is? >> that's what the president is trying to put together now because there's really no easy choice here. this is something that's very, very difficult. some people have suggested we mak

even a lot of republicans get a little squeamish, they say why d dick cheney? was this a civil service that was sprung out of the woodwork to run the country effectively after saddam hussein was toppled? it never happened. does it help the republicans to have dick cheney leading the charge against barack obama now? >> no, it doesn't. neocons are back, they feel emboldened. they're out there talking about this is their passion. but a majority of americans think the iraq war was a mistake and dick cheney remains deeply unpopular and that's why you saw white house press secretary jay carney come out this week, harry reid and immediately push back really hard on dick cheney. >> chris christie sounded tough in a speech to a conservative group at the end of the week but rand paul in an interview with national review still seems to think why do we want to do this? people question will he be libertarian, isolationist? somewhere in the middle? "do we want to, in effect, become iran's air force? what's in this for iran? why should we choose a side and if we do, who are w

speaking of american troops in iraq, quote, dick cheney, back in 2003 again. my belief is we will in fact be greeted as liberators. wrong again. 4500 american service members lost their lives in the iraq war. here is the bottom line. the obama administration should and does hold responsibility for what has happened in iraq under its watch. but the fact that dick cheney has the gall to offer advice to anyone on iraq is laughable, except it's not funny. the former commander in chief who sent us to war, george w. bush, has done the classy thing and remained quiet. perhaps mr. cheney, with all due respect, you should do the same. have a seat. now let's go right to anderson cooper live in baghdad, jim sciutto in washington tonight. isis fighters, anderson, have taken over a number of iraq cities. are they expected to reach baghdad? >> you know, that of course an open question. we know there are some 35 to 40 miles, the closest city they're in and fighting for baqubah still. that battle has been going on for more than a day now. that's about as close as we know that

being on the wrong side of dick cheney is to be on the right side of history. >> rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many, talking about the situation in iraq and the middle east -- >> which president was he talking about? [ laughter ] >> i believe he was talking about president obama. >> look, it's obviously always good to hear from former vice president cheney. >> the heated debate over the decision to swap five taliban prisoners for sergeant bowe bergdahl is taking shape on capitol hill. critics of the deal, including fellow soldiers, testified before the house foreign affairs committee. a retired veteran who served with bergdahl say he is outraged by the swap. he accused bergdahl of endangering the lives of other soldiers with a premeditated disappearance. >> countless people looked for him when he went missing, putting their own lives on the line for his. combat is difficult. the only thing you can count on with combat is the commitment of your fellow american, knowing that someone you needed to trust deserted you in war and did so on h

former vice president dick cheney has launched a new offensive against barack obama and what he calls the collapsing obama doctrine. cheney writes "rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much." we'll talk with cheney later in this hour, but first let's look at the obama doctrine. what is it? and what has it led to? first a warning. be advised that some of the video you'll see tonight is very graphic. >> so help you, god? >> so help me, god. >> congratulations, mr. president. >> candidate obama had promised he would improve america's standing in the world. now that he was president, the world was waiting to find out how. one thing everyone did know, he'd been against the iraq war from the start. >> what i do oppose is a dumb war. >> in fact, his opposition to the war was instrumental in his election victory. >> i don't want to just end the war but i want to end the mindset that got news war in the first place. >> obama's mindset suggested he wanted america to play a smaller role on the world stage. it didn't take long for this humbler approach to show itself. >> we want to

one from dick cheney, he's a former vice president. one from harry reid, the senate majority leader. dick cheney wrote a scathing attack on the president with his daughter, liz cheney, in "the wall street journal" today. i'm going to play this little clip from the former vice president. >> we stand at a critical moment in the life of our nation. the policies of the last six years have left america diminished and weakened. our enemies no longer fear us. our allies no longer trust us. >> they're announcing a new conservative grassroots organization. the scathing an criticism of the president's iraq policy resulted in this statement from harry reid. >> the former vice president of the united states who clearly was the chief architect of the war. mr. president, if there's one thing that this country does not need, it's that we should be taking advice from dick cheney on wars. being on the wrong side of dick cheney means being on the right side of history. >> senate majority leader on the senate floor. i read that article in "the wall stree

what is to be learned from dick cheney on iraq? e is a conflict between the shiite and the sunnis. >> we don't need cheney to tell us. we know that. >> what is to be learned is what happened in the mid 2000s when we had conflict there. we had some wlosz losses and sos that didn't end the way the administration wanted it to end. clearly the administration has -- for better or worse inherited the situation. they're trying to, i think the best they can, with it. it's a difficult situation. the president can't do nothing. in other words he has to do something. he has to be involved and send -- have some kind of a response to isis. you can't not respond to what isis is doing in iraq. at the same time, you have to be careful not to be on the wrong side of the a sectarian conflict between the sunni and the shiite. it's a big -- >> look at what people have done in the past and say you pick your spot. i don't want to do this or that. >> joe watkins. we'll leave it there. both of you have a great weekend. thank you. >>> another republican in

being on the wrong side of dick cheney is to be on the right side of history. >> what do you think? think i so too. in a certainly way that op ed tells us a lot more about the fact that liz cheney wants to run for office in the united states again. the reality is that if you read that op ed closely, you'll notice that cheney outlines a very broad critique of the president's foreign policy that makes a lot of fair and reasonable points but don't in the end offer a significant strategy for dealing with the situation in iraq right now, and i think this is the problem facing the president is that there is a strong case that he and the white house should have worked harder to keep u.s. troops on the ground in some form there three years ago, but at this point, you can't unwine the clock to that situation. you are in a different situation, and iraq is basically two and a half countries at the moment. it's this broad swath of chaotic of territory controlled by militants. i haven't seen any strategy for propping up democracy that doesn't seem to exist any more. >> doesn't this ring untrue th

tweet us using the #askdon. >>> dick cheney in an op-ed today in the "wall street journal" blasts president obama for, get this, his handling of iraq. that's right. pop, meet kettle. cheney, one of the architects of the iraq war, a crucial part of the team who got the u.s. into this mess in the first place, says this -- "rarely has a u.s. president been so wrong about so much at the expense of so many." this from the man who helped use faulty intelligence. remember? weapons of mass destruction? none found. miscalculated the cost of the war. part of it, they said, paid for by iraq's oil revenues. never happened. and misjudged just how long the conflict would last. quote, dick cheney back in 2003, "i think it will go quickly, weeks rather than months." it ended up lasting almost nine years. underestimated the price paid by our soldiers. speaking of american troops in iraq, quote, dick cheney back in 2003 again, "my belief is we will in fact be greeted as liberators." wrong again. 4,500 american service members lost their lives in the iraq war. here is the bottom line. the obama administration

dick cheney's given a lot of interviews lately and one was with charlie rose.e. >> you've heard this at every interview. here comes the guy who's responsible for a lot of the bad things that went wrong in iraq, now wants to come in and point the finger to the obama administration for the situation we have in iraq today. and they often even say how dare he step forward to do that. >> i don't hesitate to defend what we did and with respect to whether or not we did the right thing going into iraq, i believe it. i won't argue about it. different people have different views. the reason i'm concerned now is because there was a relatively simple proposition in front of the administration. the president as late as 2011 was talking about what good shape iraq was in in terms of being stable. >> so is listening to dick cheney like listening to an arsonist on fire prevention? should we listen to what he's saying? >> look, i faced the vice president when i was at the cia. he's a challenging guy to talk to. the former vice president is seen as someone who's seen as always cl

back to dick cheney.otter" libby put things on one time on monday and get on "meet the press" on sunday and systematically building the case their weapons of mass destruction, there was yellow cake from nyjer and trying to build a bowing urs cagus case. >> you had the cia director going into the white house handing president bush a report on weapons of mass destruction in iraq a year after 9/11 and george bush saying, "is this all you have?" the cia director whose job is to brief the presidents on such things above all of that ground noise you say jumped up and said, mr. president, it's a slam dunk. i'm not saying it was a slam dunk. i'm just saying, it's not just that it was all smoke in mirrors back then that a lot of people, 70% of americans agreed with dick cheney. >> but he still does now. >> the fact no nuclear weapons. >> the cia director as well. >> i'm not justifying what george tenet did. there was a lot of interplay between the vice president's office and the special group over at the defense d

found. >> there is one thing this country does not need, it's that we should be taking advice from dick cheney on wars. >> reporter: but cheney wasn't alone. his 2008 republican opponent john mccain, a long-time champion of the iraq war, also got into the fray. >> the president's mishandling of iraq for the past five years is consistent inaction on syria have now brought us to the verge of disaster. >> reporter: but while washington engages in this blame game, the president may have bigger problems with the public as he ponders what to do in iraq. ow nature nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows 57% disapprove of the job he is doing on foreign policy, a dubious record high for the president. and brian, as for when the president will unveil his plan publicly, i'm told they know they need to get something in place by the weekend. >> chuck todd, white house north lawn tonight. chuck, thanks. >>> over at the pentagon, we learned new details today about the capture of the suspected ringleader in that attack on the u.s. diplomatic compound in benghazi. our own jim miklaszewski is reporting forces capt

dick cheney has a strong opinion on president obama and his current iraq policy but nowhere did cheneythat op ad use the t word, treason, which you normally reserve for people like benedict arnold or edward snowden and that would be like me saying blah, blah, blah to you. it's out of nowhere. jon: he wrote that he felt the president wanted to take america down a notch, that -- well, alan, who would you characterize it? >> you want to intentionally take the country down a notch? i think that's a fair question. i don't know why they put cheney on in the first place. he said we're in the last throes of the insurgency years and years ago and continued to make false statements and continued to be wrong about the iraq war. as megan kelly put to him the other night when he was on fmc, why do we continue to have to watch this person pontificate when he's been so wrong about this war? jon: let me put to you a quote from bush 43 official who was the deputy national security adviser, wrote this in politico. he said the middle east that obama inherited in 2009 was largely at peace after the surge

let me start tonight with dick cheney. he is out there attacking president obama over iraq pretending that he wasn't the perpetrator of the disaster. it was cheney who sold the limited george w. bush on going into iraq in the first place. that war of choice we have all come to

one dick cheney. kids cover your ears. rocking tonight at 8:00. >>> hello, everyone. i'm greg gutfeld, with kimberly guilfoyle and dan a perino. this is the five. thanks to president obama domestic passions everyone can marry a cat as sport teams with bad names are demonized forever. there's one small matter. it's called the world. it's a mess. we got a boss more interestsed in feelings than fracking. he's not naval gazing because that needs a talent. terror is back and better than ever and one wonders why not play whack-a-mole instead. >> what we can't do is play whack-a-mole and chase whatever extremists appear, occupy those countries for long periods of time and think somehow we're going to solve those problems. what we can't do is think we're just going to play whack-a-mole and send u.s. troops occupying various countries wherever these organizations pop up. >> well if the war on terror can't be whack-a-moled what should it be. wait until they come here and whack us. isn't it your job to whack the moles. here's the plan split the crazy from the seans, kill the cra

and dick cheney is leading the charge. what's your reaction?rev this is the same dick cheney, when he was of fighting age in his 20s and the vietnam war was going on and everyone was getting drafted, he said i have better things to do than serve in vietnam. yet he wants to disparage the commander-in-chief. he wants to go against a whole military ethic that we leave no one behind. now listen, whether it's the sergeant deserted or not, if he deserted, court-martial him. let him rot in jail. let him rot in an american jail, but we bring those missing in action home. we do all we can. this was an easy call. >> the operative word, congressman, is if. we don't know if in i of that is true. what i don't understand is how we are going to suggest, imply, infer, to leave him there to die while we speculate on any of these things. but let me ask you, because one of the reasons i was very happy to have you on, you serveds in iraq. and we call found out what happened with the weapons of mass destruction that didn't exist. how do you feel when you see dick c

do they side with dick cheney? they can't side with the president. of put in a pick many, aren't they. >> they are going to attack the president because the constituencies they appeal to don't like obama and their answer on everything, whether it's the highway trust fund or bank or iraq is just attack obama, blame obama first, they are not going to put a plan out about what they would actually do anymore than they are ever going to tell ugs what the replace part of repeal and replace obama care means. it's just attack obama all the time every day. >> bob shrum, great to have you here. appreciate your time tonight. >> thanks. >> still ahead, save our steel. now is the time to invest in back bone of american manufacturing, rally in virginia, minnesota today. i was there. >> george will not back down on his column on campus rape. we discuss the growing firestorm. next, i'm taking your questions. ask ed live just ahead. we're right back. means keeping seven billion ctransactions flowing.g, and when weather hits, it's data mayhem. but airlines running hp

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bush announced he had chosen dick cheney to be his vice presidential running mate he presented a storyyone who watched a romantic comedy, the right person was right in front of me all along. >> as we work to evaluate the strengths of others i saw first-hand dick cheney's outstanding judgment. and as we considered many different credentials i benefitted from his keen insight and gradually i realized that the person who was best qualified to be my vice presidential nominee was working by my side. >> before anybody knew how consequential dick cheney would be one was he should have picked somebody else for the job until president bush realized the man for him was in front of him the whole time. the other really consequential thing that we knew was that he would be the tie breaking vote in the united states senate. one of the responsibilities of the vice presidency is to serve as president of the senate. it is mostly a symbolic thing, swearing people in and that sort of thing until it becomes a crucially important job and not just symbolic because like dick cheney in 2001 turns out you are

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