he relied on dick kates who was more of a trial lawyer. and i related to him very well, but you know, he liked cates a lot. he used cates a great deal to face a word i don't like, to be a contact with the committee itself. so doer, you know, and he was comfortable with the younger people. he was comfortable with hillary, with evan davis who was about 30 years old at the time. beat had bob sack who came in. we had all sorts of good people, sensible people. he put together a good staff. partly through his burke marshal who was also a key adviser. he had sort of a kitchen cabinet in effect who he looked to, burke marshal owen fiss, bob owen, joe woods and dick cates. some were on the staff, some weren't on the stap staff. doer reached out. he knew he was in a very sensitive situation. when i think back, it was handled as well as anybody could handle it. >> would you and woods participate in discussions with the kitchen cabinet? >> sometimes yes, and sometimes no. not always. sometimes you know doer was always in contact with var people on his

he had joe woods, dick kates. he felt he had enough people along those lines and therefore, he passed up the opportunity to hire la val and to hire siftton but somehow their careers managed to do okay without coming down to us there. sody try to get him to do that. he was more comfortable with the staff he sort of put together. a lot of the younger people we had such as hillary rodham and maureen who was not a lawyer at the time and it worked out. i mean, he was -- his -- his comfort level was important. he had me. and i was sort of a both very useful to him and an irritant at the same time. but i was very aggressive. i was 37 years old. i was a trial lawyer. i had been a trial lawyer. and we had disputes from time to time as to how things should happen. you know, how things should proceed. when i think back, he was right most of the time and i was wrong most of the time. he wanted to be -- he understood that we couldn't come off as prosecutorial. he understood -- this is very important. he really understood and r

. >> you know, those detimes are going to dick kate the weather that these guys have to play with. in the morning we're still going to see a fair amount of fog. when the sun comes up. so foggy start, then the winds pick up. the guys teeing off in the afternoon are going to have to deal with gusty conditions. 56 to start out in sunnyvale. throughout day today, i wanted to point out on future cast for wind that we're going to increase progressively throughout the day with the strongest winds between 4:00 and 5:00, the warmest time of the day. as we hit about noon, 63, windy conditions out there. it's going be to a nice day for golf. i can tell with you wind out of the west-northwest 15 to 20 miles per hour sustained, it's going to be challenging for the guys to have a straight shot. you can catch all of the coverage here on nbc bay area. waking up inland, 82 at noon, up to 88 at noon time. 80 at 4:00 p.m. then we're talking triple digits this weekend. >> we'll stay tuned. time to raise cane, 18 on the field. matt cain now the first in franchise history to ever pitch that perfect game

i think it part it shows chase carey perhaps has more power in terms of dick kating how they'll respond potentially with bskyb. that's a little unclear -- >> after conversations with andrew -- becky and i were very sceptical, oh, this is to buffer bskyb. now it seems like a lot of people wanted this, rupert murdoch is injured and weak and the people around him are seizing on the moment to do something they've wanted to do for a long time. >> you think it's injured and wounded? >> yeah. >> i think he's rich and happy. >> really? >> i think michelle is right in the context of the board discussion, he -- i don't want to say -- i think wounded may be going too far. >> a wee bit exaggerated. >> he doesn't have the same power necessarily that he had today and i think chase kerr rhee is asserting himself. >> granted the litigation goes with the publishing assets. but the overall risk is still across the board. you can't have fraudulent conveyance. again, we don't know the answers. we're reporting on the fly here. >> it's the first bit of exciting news out of so-called europe that i've seen. a