meeting last night but a new power center is emerging with chief economic advisor gary cone and dina powellng jared kushner, at times bannon discussed quitting, the official we spoke to heard nothing about that. just the fact of all that chatter tells you exactly how much interest there is in every one of these power moves sign inside the white house. >> what does it say about a perhaps shifting global view? we don't know. >> gary is known as global gary. >>> adam schiff ranking member of the white house intelligence committee. he says trump promised to turnover documents, but says white house staffers are refusing. democrats are accusing republicans of blocking testimony by blocking salaly yates. >>> president trump tells "the new york times" he believes susan rice committed a crime by unmasking trump associates incidentally surveilled and that's a huge story. the president again offering no evidence to support his claim that the former obama administration advisor acted improperly, he says i think it's going to be one of the biggest stories, one of our time and said he will explain himsel

gary cohen and dina powell. this group of people all connected.ka's adviser, and gary cohen, jared kushner. >> why is that concerning or confusing to them? you said confusing, concerning, why so? >> it is concerning. for one thing, gary cohen and jared kushner are registered democrats. not former democrat. i am a former democrat. but they're current democarts. they're democrats right now. with a clear record of supporting the establishment. in the case of some one like dina powell for in stance, one of her friends is valerie jaret, currently living with the obamas, right now. that may not mean much to you. but if you are a trump supporter, hearing that she is close to valerie jarrett. or ariana huffington, for instance, which she is. is concerning. if it's an ideological concern. really. as much as anything. >> kur, rcurt, remember during campaign, when conservatives were saying -- well, donald trump is not really a conservative. he is actually a democrat. running on the ticket. he thinks he can win. that has been said. is now the real donald trum

they're gary cohen and dina powell.y dina powell specifically because of ivanka have grown very close during the transition and that she is gaining power because of ivanka's affections. tell me about the two of them and what it would mean to have them amass more per within the west wing. >>o we'll start with gary cohen. he's a former executive at goldman sachs. he's actually a registered democrat, although he likes to tell people in meetings he's not a democrat and he's not a republican, he's just trying to help trump make deals and get things done. trump likes him a lot. he sees him as a peer, he's independently wealthy, he's a businessman. dina powell has a different background. she worked in the george bush administration. she considers hers a conservative republican, but in temperament, she's much more moderate. she is rising very fast. she's close to ivanka and jared. she is also the deputy security adviser and she was in that photograph last week of the advisers and the bunker there advising president trump on the

little bit, but he's closely aligned with people like jared kushner, the president's son-in-law, dina powell another sort of like wall street type who is -- who is also aligned with kushner and ivanka trump, and he's seen as a moderate and what he is also is a democrat, and that's really the crux of the tension within this white house is what is -- essentially what is a democrat doing in donald trump's white house, and can people really trust him? >> well, what is a democrat doing in donald trump's white house? >> okay. let's count them. jared kushner, ivanka trump. >> some people might even count donald trump at times, right. >> exactly. they have all changed. i'm not saying they are democrats now, but they have all sort of evolve the. the thing about gary cohn that i find fascinating is he is somebody -- what i've been told since starting to cover donald trump as a candidate, you know, almost two years ago is that the way he perceives people, a lot of it depends on how much money they made on their own, like how self-made they are and where they worked. so gary cohn wasn't just a wall stre

i think the more likely explanation is that jen mcmaster, dina powell who serves under him, are probably saying he shouldn't have been there and i was told by another source that maybe this is also evidence of this power triumbrat which was reince priebus and bannon crumbling a little bit. >> is this the beginning of a diminished role for steve bannon? is this a slap in his face that all of a sudden he's no longer on this national security council key group? >> my sense is that it's a combination of everything that you just said, that it is the fact that he was put on there to baby sit michael flynn and, yes, it does beg the question why was he the national security adviser and the answer is that you get from a lot of sources, i'm sure you're hearing this, too, michael flynn was loyal to the president and wanted to be national security adviser. so the president said, okay, i'll make you a national security adviser. is that the way decisions should get made? no. but that's what happened. the people around donald trump had to work around that and part of that was putting steve bannon at th

dina powell, his -- was another goldman sachs figure who is now the number two person in the national council. i think these are the people who are really the rising powers. >> we do know that kushner and ivanka have pretty close relationship with a couple of those people you named, cohen, as well as dina powell. president's apparently reaching out to people on the outside to think about what they think of his team. what do you think of this team? >> i don't much care for steve bannon. i will admit that. i know him slightly. he directed me in a movie once. i think his whole approach to governing is just completely wrong. it is just blow things up for the heck of blowing them up. and i think a lot of the staff people, the really hard-core trumpites are just not very competent. they're not experienced. i think the smoother, more experienced people like gary cohen i think are the ones who are going to be taking over. i wouldn't be at all surprised to see steve kohn become chief of staff. there's a lot of talk about reince priebus not having the stature to do the type of jobs he needs to

so they're really hoping that this is moving toward people, like gary cohen, dina powell, those are twoery well be -- economic adviser. dina was just moved into the nsc, got a promotion there. both of them are very close to jared and ivanka. >> jamie, thank you very much. gloria, thank you as well. speaking of the president, at any moment now we'll be seeing air force one touching down in palm beach, the airport there. live pictures ahead of this crucial meeting with the president of china xi jinping. we'll take you there live. also ahead, we're learning that secretary of state rex tillerson will be speaking in florida as well there in west palm. the topic unclear at the moment. we'll take that live as well. lots going on. stay with us. does your makeup remover every kiss-proof,ff? cry-proof, stay-proof look? neutrogena® makeup remover does. it erases 99% of your most stubborn makeup with one towelette. need any more proof than that? neutrogena. i'm vern, the orange money retirement rabbit, from voya. i'm the money you save for retirement. who's he? he's green money, for spending today.

going to say realistically, if he kicked steve bannon out of the white house, if gary cohen and dina powellto ascend, he is going to go down to about 20%. because he is going to lose at least i would say half the base. >> he'll take a hit. >> well, if there is one thing trump doesn't mind is a fight. and i think overriding whatever might happen with -- if bannon leaves, is that to trump, trump is him. it is whatever he says. and, you know, he is a man focused on himself in so many ways. but second in importance to him is family. and family is -- he grew up running in a family business. that's really how he understands the world, how he knows how to run things. the only guy you know is going to be around for a while is jared kushner. bannon is expendable if he is not going to play along with the president. and i think stephen miller has figured that out and has shifted his chips on the table over to the kushner side. >> charlie, there is also reporting that steve bannon's press ascendance, which we're all partly responsible for, i suppose, angered trump as well, that he doesn't want people w

so i think anybody who's looking at people like gary cohen, dina powell, being part of the administrationderstand who they are, both goldman sachs people, one with bush, one big democrat, gary cohen, but the kind of democrat, by the way, the kind of limousine liberal that working-class democrats don't like, cohen is not a working-class democrat. when they see those people in this white house, i think it's very confusing. >> let me make a counter argument, ned i want to see what you think about this, first of all i don't know that that many people out there make that deep of a dive in terms of who these individual players are, maybe i'm wrong, but i would make the argument as somebody who was on the campaign trail for two years, most of the time, that a lot of the people who voted for trump sort of built in to their assessment of him that he wasn't necessarily always going to do what he said. what they wanted was for him to blow up washington. >> they did. >> they wanted him to blow up washington. so when he said things about women or he said anything that might have killed another candida

i should note that dina powell is someone who came from goldman. but before that worked in the bush white house, worked for a number of republican members of congress, you know, has a long track record in conservative politics. >> and that goldman-run philanthropy i, correct? >> yes, she ran the foundation. she is not someone, yeah, who should be lumped in as a democrat per se. but they are, you know, people whoever pragmatic, who are coming in i think trying to do things a little bit differently. and it seems like trump is listening, is interested. i think partly because he's trying to get some things done and he is interested in getting some more voices in the room. >> gary cohen, on the other hand, was president of goldman sachs and really has been talked up as, quote, one of the adults in the room. >> uh-huh. >> all right. let's take a break here. we'll come back. we have much more to talk about, including where the trump administration stands on wikileaks. and as of today, that became apparent it depends who you ask. the 11th hour back right a

dina powell ka imfrom goldman but before that worked in the bush white house, worked for member of congress. >> and at goldman ran philanthropy? >> yeah, ran the foundation. she is not someone who i think should be lumped in as a democrat per se. but they are people who are pragmatic, who are coming in trying to do things a little bit differently. and it seems like trump is lipping, is interested. partly because he wants to get things done and he is interested innet going more voices in the room. >> gary cohn on the other hand was president of goldman sachs and has been talked up as one of the quote adults in the room. >> uh-huh. >> let's take a break here. when we come back we'll have much more to talk about, including where the trump administration stands on wikileaks, and as of today, that became apparent. it depends who you ask. "the 11th hour," back right after this. we've done well in life, with help from our advisor, we made it through many market swings. sure we could travel, take it easy... but we've never been the type to just sit back... not when we've got so much more to give wh

you had the addition of dina powell to the nsc. and of course the statute terry by this executive order addition readmission to the table by the director of national intelligence and the chairman of the joint chiefs general dunford, who had been removed from that except by special invitation when trump first took over. there is lot of reporting that he didn't realize the significance of the order he had sign reconstituting the national security council clearing done by mike flynn and steve bannon early on in those recall days. he is now focusing in a waye hadn't seen before. what he has done according to many of the congressional reactions was proportional and was a warning signal. we haven't seen the reaction yet from russia although there was some indication from the russian ambassador at the united nations earlier today they had a security council session, the russian ambassador came out and briefed and warned this should not take place. they could have read as easily as we did the language by the president and certainly the lon

that's gary cole and dina powell. they have gained a lot of power. dina powal has become a deputy national security advisor. >> why is that concerning and confusing to them? you said it's concerning, and why so? >> for one thing it is concerning because they're both registered democrats. they're current democrats right now with a clear record of supporting the establishment. in the case of someone like dina powal, for instance, one of her friends is valery jared who's currently living with the -- it's very concerning. and it's an ideological concern as much as anything. >> well, then, kurt, you remember during the campaign when conservatives were saying he's actually a democrat and running on this ticket because he thinks he can win. are the -- >> i think what you're seeing now is symptom of failure. he would be able to deliver conservatives when he needed them, and when steve kind of cleared out the gaunt lnt during obamacare repeal are lawmakers, he rebuffed that and didn't respond to that, i think trump in his mind first saw well, steve, apparently

mcfarland to dina powell. >> you want someone opposed to the war go to pentagon.duty, which outlines flaws and cowardice at the command level in the 1960s. >> you talk to the military, young military, aspiring leaders, mcmaster is a hero. he's a person that spoke up and talked about the errors of foreign policy and how they were played out in military decisions. >> when you hear rex tillerson say the assad era is coming to an end like he did yesterday, what do you hear in that? that can happen a few different ways, from the syrian people somehow, russia leaning on him convincing him to leave power. i don't see any incentive for him to do that. or come from western coalition led by umbrellas removing him from power. what does that mean to you? >> i think back to four years ago at home springfield, illinois it's sunday night and i get a phone call from president obama. what's up, president? well, we see some chemical weapons in syria. i want to come to congress and ask you as a member of the foreign relations committee to vote for a resolution and give me authority

she brought in dina powell who was a friend of her and worked in the bush '43 administration and herusband as one of the most powerful people in the west wing, jared kushner. i think when she was fighting against the idea that she was an adviser most people knew that she was. >> you think she was in denial contador did you think she was trying to keep it as under the radar as possible. >> i think she was trying to keep it under the radar. we never had a first daughter who has had an office in the west wing and who's a crucial part of her father's administration. it is never been done before. we never had a first son do this. i think she realizes this is unprecedent unprecedented. >> i know you written about ivanka taken on the first role of the first lady and transforming that. lets read a little piece of what you wrote about in december. maybe ivanka will force of the consideration of what being first lady means. it should be someone who wants it and recognizes the responsibility and opportunity that comes with -- >> did ivanka inherit the title? she has no experience in government

one of the first hires the general mcmaster did was to bring over dina powell as his deputy to the nationaly council. powell, a former goldman sachs executive was previously working in the administration for first daughter ivanka trump. what you are seeing unraveling before us on this very busy day at the white house is a restructuring of president trump's inner circle. we should underscore that steve bannon still does have significant influence on a host of policy areas including infrastructure and politics. >> samsung reported a higher than expected profit. shares remain on a bit of a tear this year, up more than 16%, all despite this bribery scandal and that exploding phone note 7 debacle as well. >> what is important to look at is the profitability of the company. all-time high profit for the first quarter of this year, up mainly year on year. and is powered by the strength in components. that is really the most important thing for the stock, is the earnings of the company, and that is surprising everyone to the upside at the moment. >> the senate has confirmed neil gorsuch to the u.s.

throughout this process, but there are, as you have said, many other players, such as gary coen, dina powellbus who are gaining stature in the white house, building their own relationships with president trump. bannon i am told was involved last night in the health care discussion. right. i'm told it's not bannon leading on the health care discussions, it's vice president pence working close with priebus to try to revive the talks, glen's reporting was spot on. they were the first to report bannon was very frustrated with the move on the national security counsel sill, but there is afternoon acknowledgement that mcmaster is asserting himself, he's not an enemy of bannon in the view of the bannon camp and they're okay with him taking control more fully of the nsc, even if they privately wish bannon was still there. >> right now, micah, bannon has one allie, he still remains the president of the united states, he is growing wary of the mistakes, the first 60 day, and he is increasingly isolated and to show how they're working, moving bannon to the side, do you remember broadcast news. >> yeah.

trump and one that tells us that some of these new voices in the white house, the mcmasters and dina powellsf the world and gary cohen are starting to rise and influence around what had been a very tight circle. >> april, quickly, what are you hearing on the bannon move? >> well, the way i understand it, many people in the intelligence community, when this president was president-elect, were very concerned with the fact that business would be at the table when issues of national intelligence security would be discussed. so this is somewhat of a win for that community as they feel that they would not have a seat at the table but now, to move bannon down a bit to let the people who know about the stakes around the world, the security issues, it does play into a course correction, as was said before. but this president also, i believe, is starting to realize that the stakes are very high globally. look what he just said about syria today. he said it's his responsibility and also talking about north korea. the stakes are very high and the players at the table have to know what the issues are, th

and mick mulvaney and others and then this new york trump set with jared kushner, ivanka trump, dina powellnd they are constantly clashing in terms of personal its but also in ideas. >> could they find common ground here? >> maybe. but they need to do it quickly and to rebecca's point, you have competing styles and ideologies, on substance neither of these guys is like a small government guy. if they go for infrastructure policy maybe that is something to work upon but in politics, find a common foil. in the campaign they could mutually attack. now they don't have that. they need something. >> correct me if i'm wrong, phil, that generals, secretary of defense, general mattis, national security adviser, general mcmaster, that they seem to be elevated right now in the decision making progress on these critically important national security issues. >> boy, you got that one right, wolf. if you look what the they bring to the table, any time there is a new administration, rightly, american people elect big ideas people. that's the president of the united states. but big ideas have to face realit

, the oval office and the national security council where we wille now see the kind of mcmaster/dina powell theory of how this will conduct itself playing out. we may be seeing that now. >> of the last ambassador giving us a speech saying this carnage here, a very direct, angry speech on what is happening in syria, now, a policy change. nikki haley gave a similar kind of speech. donald trump and barack obama neither one of them have taken aggressive action to remove assad. has that now changed? >> that's a fascinating question, let's be honest, the united states under the obama administration lost credibility. the united states drew a red line with president obama about chemical weapons attacks, but he did not knowdo anything with assad. a lot of inaction by the obama administration. i think what we heard from nikki haley i think the question is does the trump administration want to end up in the same box with having the word look at what the united states says it's just words. this is a decision that the president will make by listening what does it mean with steve bannon, eyebrows raised,

the west wing, which includes jared kushner, and deputy national security adviser for strategy dina powell, on clear display this week. the president insisting china is no longer a currency manipulator, borrowing this refrain from the campaign trail. >> we're going to label china a currency manipulator, which is what they're doing. >> reporter: and laugh issued praise on janet yellen, after lampooning her during the campaign. >> in my opinion, janet yellen is not raising rates for a specific reason because obama told her not to. >> reporter: as the nationalist champion in trump's white house appear to be losing ground, alliances may be shifting. steven miller, a prominent trump cheerleader on the campaign trail -- >> do you want a president who will only answer to the american people? >> reporter: looked to steve bannon. miller has been branching out, working more closely with jared kushner's office, and assisting ivanka trump in her policy pursuits on paid family leave. as for the president, he ended the week noncommittal on whether a staff shakeup is in the works, telling the wall street

. >> and dina powell as the deputy, i think -- i was just in israel and europe and the middle east, and basically what diplomats are saying that this shows that president trump for all of the concern that people had in the beginning, that he is able to course correct, and it is giving i think allies a little bit of comfort, as was the strike in syria, you know. i talked to some diplomats and they said, listen, this is giving confidence that u.s. leadership is back there. we're looking for the president to take -- president obama to take action in syria. there was a perception he was retreating from the middle east and now you have a president, you know, who took decisive action. i think it's too early to say that this is a strategy or a trend or a doctrine, but i think that they do -- they do see some positive trends. i will say who is not so happy though are trump's populist kind of right wing supporters abroad. you saw marine le pen speaking very derogatorily about the strike and nigel farage. >> and with trump, it's a day-to-day presidency. >> right. >> which is this is this predicti

but i wish breitbart was doing a better job quite frankly of pla explaining to their readers who dina powell, who gary cohen is, for instance, and why they're people completely anti-threat call anti antithetical of what donald trump ran on. they told me that breitbart was pulling their punches, had nothing to do with steve. i never heard that from anybody that's conjecture. all i'm saying is to call journalism revenge strikes me as odd. when barack obama ran on a platform, he was against the individual mandate. then he flipped. i was writing about it at the huffington post. it wasn't revenge when i wrote about it, it was just calling him out. the idea that steve bannon is going to change his ideology, and that's not to say he's not practical. i think steve is willing to make deals and stuff like that, but at the end of the day, i think he will hold firm to the ideology of -- >> i'm running out of time, lee. curt, i just want to get your response to this. trump mega donor rebecca mercer spent much of friday exploring potential gigs for bannon should he be fired. where do you think he would en

dina powell as well as the pick of james clayton, the nominee for the s.e.c. if confirmed in that role, this former lawyer for goldman would be called on by trump to oversee goldman. that might kneecap some of the oversight designed for the s.e.c. to do, a point not lost on elizabeth warren during his confirmation. >> if president trump wanted to make sure the sec would have a hard time going after his wall street friends, it seems you would be the perfect chair. >> if you use the yardstick to measure president trump of his own campaign rhetoric the swamp is alive and well in our nation's capital. i want to welcome ellie who worked on the trump campaign. bill cohen and policy expert dennis kelahern from the organization better markets. dennis, on this issue, what grade do you give the president, and what do you think of what we just ran through there? >> in draining the swamp, if he could get a letter grade lower than "f," he would. he's become the king of the swamp. he said he was going to drive the lawyers, lobbyists and influence peddlers out of the washing

also dina powell, deputy on the national security council. another white house official flying on the military plane getting a look at the conflicts here, ready to report back to president trump. >> nbc's hans nichols reporting from saudi arabia. joining me now mark jacobson. former senior adviser to ash carter and former special assistant to the secretary of the navy. appreciate you joining us. hans referred to this -- this is what secretary mattis told reporters about the conflict in yemen on the plane ride to saudi arabia. listen. >> this is something with the number of innocent people dying inside yemen that simply has to be brought to an end. we will work with our allies, with our partners to try to get it to the u.n. brokered negotiating table. >> so, secretary mattis is talking about a u.n.-led solution there. mark, do you see the administration getting more deeply involved in that, continuing to arm saudi forces? >> i find it ironic that the administration wants a u.n. brokered solution when they'd like to de-fund the u.s. commitment

who is next to ivanka and jared other than gary cohen and dina powell.rts say they are the ones a massing more influence inside the trump administration right now. two more moderate voices. we'll see how that plays out. thank you guys both so much for being here today. >> thanks, katy. >>> let's get a checkn our miosoft polls questio of the day. do y think donald trump will fire steve bannon? so far 65% of you say yes, confident he's going to do it. 35% of you say no. still time to weigh in, though, at pulse.msnbc.com. >>> for the first time since the video went viral, you know the one i'm talking about, the family of the attorney dragged off a united flight in chicago is talking about what happens next. we're not professional athletes. but that doesn't mean we're giving up. i'm in this for me. for me. along with diet and exercise, farxiga helps lower blood sugar in adults with type 2 diabetes. lowering a1c by up to 1.2 points. do not take if allergic to farxiga. if you experience symptoms of a serious allergic reaction such as rash, swelling, difficulty

he's hired the national security council, dina powell, to be the person thinking about strategy, and another important academic, nauda shadlow, is go to write the strategy. and h.r. mcmaster, the national security adviser, is overseeing that. he's a brilliant guy. so i mean, i think it's a little bit of an unfair criticism to say they don't have a strategy. i mean, they're really just starting in some ways, but i don't think the president is accurate either to say there's a great difference in the last eight weeks compared to, other than the syria strike, you know. i mean, the operation in mosul's been in the planning and in the works for a couple of years before donald trump took office. so you know, mosul will fall at some point. the trump administration will surely say that's great. but a lot of that work was done under the obama administration. >> major -- >> 85 days in, yeah, perhaps pretty early for a doctrine for an overall foreign policy. major bob baer and peter bergen, thank you all. >> you bet. >>> still to come, the monster bomb might have made the most noise, but a bill

you have the homeland security advisers tom bossert and dina powell i worked with as well as tom, soink you've got some solid experienced people there, and it sounds to me like things are beginning to settle down. >> lastly, let's turn to the russian investigation. the chairman has recused himself. devin nunes from california, and there is a call from the former chairman of the house intelligence committee, mike rogers, who works for cnn for adam schiff to recuse himself saying both nunes and schiff are equally to blame for the committee's loss of focus. what do you think? >> i think there's a lot of talking to the meetia on a kind of play-by-play basis which is not helpful. i look at the two congressional investigations. the senate investigation is proceeding in a bipartisan way. it's deliberate. there's not a lot of talking out of school. i think the house has got itself into a position now where in a sense everybody has been running in front of the cameras. honestly, you could easily say let's save the money on the house investigation and let the senate do its work and let it be c

i think the more likely explanation is that jen mcmaster, dina powell who serves under him, are probably saying he shouldn't have been there and i was told by another source that maybe this is also evidence of this power triumbra

voices in the ear of the president, in particular gary cone, a former goldman sachs executive, dina powell, the deputy national security adviser and a former george w. bush official in that white house, as well as jared kushner, his son-in-law, and his daughter, ivanka. they comp out of a more centrist republican, even democratic air a like cone. you also have h.r. mcmaster, who is a republican hawk. so these non-interventionist instincts that we saw with the president teem to have faded with the syria strike and now this action in afghanistan. and we see steve bannon demoteed, still in the white house but not at influential. >> sreenivasan: speaking of bannon, he minimized his role. >> he did. it was a very interesting moment. we asked him what to make of his comments the previous day in the "new york post" where he said that, you know, he didn't distance himself from steve bannon. the president says he's his own strategist and tried to diminish that role. we said, what should we make of those comments, and the president's response was, well, you know, he's a guy who works for me, which i

dina powell was there. then there were 24 business leaders, ceos of major companies like mastercard, general electric, the new york stock exchange, jet blue. it was a town hall with these business leaders. i have a special treat this morning. i'm joined by my buddy, stephanie ruhle, who agreed to help sort of make sense of this thing. he was doing okay until he got to the end, telling you the unemployment rigate is not righ and the 70,000 factories that closed. all over the world, factories closed in some part because of automation. we don't need as many people to make things. in some part because of trade and offshoring. but the thing at the end is something donald trump has gotten used to saying. that things were really terrible. he showed up in town, and now everybody is creating new jobs everywhere you look. >> he's gotten used to saying it because those points, the narrative, he had written sticks. the problem is the narrative isn't true. when he mentioned -- he speaks to ceos. we're going to be buildi

i'd be curious who else is in the oval office, the gary cohns and dina powell. >> we were talking aboutd the president asked to get steve on the phone, meaning the treasury secretary and he joined us and we talked about tax policy. >> do you see this as a sign of the growing influence of some of his sort of centrist-minded economic advisers? >> i think it's still remains to be seen that's currently where things need to be trending. we asked him what to make of his comments to the "new york post" about steve bannon for instance and it was a very interesting answer. he said he's a guy who works for me but he also said you know -- >> which side note is brian epstein saying paul mccartney is like a guy who sings for me. >> this is what must make it nerving wracking to work for president trump he said i don't know if i'ming if to change my staff. i don't know today. maybe. he just kind of left it hanging out there, and said i like my staff but day to day kind of who knows. >> the china flip with president xi, this idea of currency manipulation is interesting because it comes at a time as you

she's there with advisers dina powell. chris? >> thank you so much. nbc's hallie jackson in berlin. i'm now joined by nicole walsh and joan walsh. both of you are msnbc political analysts. nicole and joan, my problem here is that i've always said don't talk about family members politicians. they didn't get elected. they didn't put their face in this world we cover so brutally sometimes. then again, she's a special assistant to the president. she has a lot of influence with him, and she's in the showcase now because she took the title special assistant. so how should we look at her role? an advocate for women or an advocate for her father? nicole? >> you know, i think she's trying to do both, and in the end that might be what trips her up. i've followed her out of really personal curiosity throughout the course of the campaign. i follow her on social media, and the vast majority of things she tweets about and pictures she posts have, i would say, almost nothing she tweets about has anything to do with politics or policy or her father's agenda. she's spent years now investing in her b

i think it's a credit to the president, dina powell, the deputy national security adviser, who worked this, but they stuck with it and got her out. so, that's good news and everyone should rejoice in that. but here's the concern. i'm afraid that we did pay a price for it, and the price may have been the president's unconditional support for president al sisi, and my concern is that that simply reinforces al sisi's unfortunate tendencies to repress his own people. >> i'm just going to cut in so we can watch this together. >> sure. >> this is new video coming in from the oval office. there she is. >> good job, right? >> wonderful job. >> that's even better than i thought. >> yes. [ inaudible ] >> great strength. >> we're not taking questions. >> no, no questions. >> i think we're in good shape. >> we are very happy to have aya back home. and it's a great honor to have her in the oval office with her brother. and thank you very much. >> all right, so you see there, very brief remarks, but a very powerful image there, tony, to continue our conversation. the president saying he's very happ

. >> and that is wilbur ross, of course, next to ivanka trump, dina powell, three of them on a panel behind us talking about work force development this morning. later this hour we expect to hear from the president himself as he addresses the ceos. we'll hear from him later in the day as well when he delivers a speech in front of the building trades union. >>> back to our conversation with jonathan swan, yamiche, astead. let's talk about, as we continue to talk about the administration's priorities. it's not just work force development, business, but apparently it's health care. kristen welker was called into the oval office specifically to discuss health care. that's what the president wanted to talk about, along with the vice president and others in the room. we were talking about what mark meadows had to say. realistically, will the freedom caucus get on board here? they don't need them all. they don't need every single freedom caucus member on board. >> depends on what's in the text. they are very, very skeptical. when i talk to people in the freedom caucus, they say we want to s

you list the new deputy national security adviser dina powell and her boss, h.r. mcmaster. when you have a crisis and do well at solving it, there's something that happens. we all know that. you bond with the people you're with. we can do this. that's what we've been watching over the last week. they could still unravel. the bannon issue is unresolved. they've got to get that sorted out. the presidt could come back to be being the disrupp tore. something goes wrong, he has surprises, reacts -- doubles down -- >> tomorrow is saturday morning. you never know. >> when he gets up in the morning, it's a new morning. >> but he's reading columns like this. >> he's getting approval. he is on one level the king of the flip-flop you have to say. his positions on key issues arer radically different from what they were during the campaign. but he's also becoming a credible leader in foreign policy with a strong team and i would say some real successes. >> he also -- it's very interesting with russia. david, you said early on when trump took the call from the taiwanese leader, throwing

that's why dina powell ended up getting the deputy position, which "politico" reported on last month. it's a little suspect when you have a new boss who brings on a new deputy. you have two deputies. who's the boss? i'm not surprised to hear this. i have heard from staffers internally that she was considered to be a lightweight and seemed to be a little too politicized in some ways and not carrying her weight. so not surprised to hear about this. have been hearing rumbling for a while, but her connections to flynn make her toxic. >> why is it that mr. cohen seems to be the only improvable object? >> you have to ask yourself what did the people of singapore do to deserve this? sorry, from half of america, we ae poll guise singapore. this is what is sad, joy, what is the number one job of the government? to protect the american people. in the white house, who has that responsibility? the national security council and staff. it has been a mess from the beginning. donald trump hired flynn to do this job and he didn't last more than a couple weeks. there are people there, such as the folks

dina powell going in. a measured response to what happened in syria thursday night.n policy community that have breathed a temporary, temporary, i say, sigh of relief. looks like governing. >> yes. >> something we haven't seen a whole lot of lately. looks lieke governoring. i realize it's a couple of data points. people are feeling more comfortable. democratic response was in some ways more interesting than the republican response to the use of force against syria. all these people essentially worked for president obama distancing themselves from their former president. you are being the next big thing. john kerry came out immediately in support of what donald trump did. hillary clinton did. you had other people saying some things that were almost disloyal to barack obama. saying we could have never moved this quickly. he would have never moved. why were they doing that. why did they all come out in force and do that? there was a lot of frustration. there was paralysis by analysis. in some ways such a tight center. the president, ben rhodes and a few others who tried

>> we have dina powell, gary cohn, andrew quinn, all the people in the white house impacting policiesway that trump supporters didn't vote for. stuart: a long list here tend to be on the list. >> democrats or democrat supporters. absolutely. they've been-- >> how did economic policy get hijacked like this, 85 days into the presidency? >> that's what we're all wondering. by the way, when you say there was some response to this column, i think it's because a lot of trump supporters are verynxious about this. for example, one of the big campaign promises we were going to reset our trade negotiations and redo our trade agreements around the country, nafta, et cetera, around the world. andrew quinn was an architect of the tpp, the asian trade pac that trump campaigned against and subsequently has junked and here is andrew quinn, domestic advisor for trade policy. some of the hires have been great in this administration. i think that wilbur ross is going to be an offsetting influence on trade, but these things are worrisome because we know that donald trump came into office with a lot of po