well as author of the decay of western civilization and resurgence of russia and we're joined by dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor in the it's me internet media project all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated you know over the course of this ridiculous russia gate as we go into ukraine gate mass media has been telling us if you used the term deep state or a conspiracy theorist ok something's changed though or you could say the deep state is finally beginning to speak with listen to this video clip here gentlemen let's go play god for the state. i think you know everyone here has seen this progression of diplomats and intelligence officers and white house people tripping up to capitol hill right now and saying these are people who are doing their duty you are responding to a higher call. higher call claim. he's making a reference to people that are unelected. and also telling us that these elected officials they have the right and even obligation maybe even moral obligation to disagree and obstruct elect

talking some real news i'm joined by my guest here in moscow dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor it interests me internet media project and in london we crossed alexander macarius he is a writer on legal affairs as well as editor in chief of the duran dot com all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate let me go to alex 1st in london well ukraine remains in the headlines and the 2nd half of the program we'll talk about the impeachment circus but let's focus on how ukraine the ukraine the ukraine project that the west has had since the coup in 2014 is changed russia's foreign policy and it's something that's beginning to worry people being said to you know i mean worrying people at the neo cons in washington in the in the swamp we could talk about sanctions we're going to energy policy that turned to china and europe's reassessment in there's a lot going on right here that's never talked about.

we also have dmitri bobbitt she is a political analyst and editor and interest me internet media project and in london we cross to marcus papadopoulos he is the editor of politics 1st magazine are you gentlemen cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate i'm going to go to as usual the markets and london 1st here i hope you didn't waste too much time watching the congressional hearings over the last week it was a total waste of time it was a kangaroo court but one thing that kind of struck me is that how and i didn't know this i didn't know that the united states and ukraine were the kind of strategic allies that they were made out to be on national television so tell me marcus when did this happen because as far as i know ukraine is not in nato the united states and ukraine have no treaty of self defense protecting each other none of these things exist they've never been debated but apparently according to these functionaries that's what spoke to adam schiff ukraine is an important strategic ally your thoughts my friend. well peter let

well as author of the decay of western civilization and resurgence of russia and we're joined by dmitri bobbitt she's a political analyst and editor in the smi internet media project all right gentlemen crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciated you know over the course of this ridiculous russia gate as we go into ukraine gate mass media has been telling us if you used the term deep state or a conspiracy theorist ok something's changed though or you could say the deep state is finally beginning to speak with listen to this video clip here gentlemen let's go play god for the state. i think you know everyone here has seen this progression of diplomats and intelligence officers and white house people tripping up to capitol hill right now and saying these are people who are doing their duty you are responding to a higher call. higher tall claim he's making a reference to people that are unelected. and also telling us that these elected officials they have the right and even obligation maybe even moral obligation to disagree and obstruct elected of