so who are the doca population? we can break the big group into several subcategories of potential participants. a ready are those immediately eligible. ory fit the arrival criteria are currently enrolled or have graduated from a u.s. high school. this group has the easiest time accounting for their presence and the united states. they tend to be younger and have trialer -- e.g. earlier to document. they arrived prior to 2000 seven but were not yet 15 at the start of the program. nearly halfted that a million young people could potentially aid into eligibility in the near future, provided they stay in school. in many places there is considered -- considerable support that promote the program and assist applicants. a third group must enroll in school. they are estimated to be more than 400,000 compass group is the hardest to reach and the hardest to convince. they tend to be older and isolated from support organizations. they would have to enroll in an educational program like ged to be eligible. we have learned each

it did allow renewal for doca or isthere is new language that proposed today. would young aspirant americans on doca be able to renew their status or with this cancel that? no agent or --1, may use resources after july 2014 to consider or adjudicate any more new or previously denied application of any alien requesting consideration of deferred action for childhood arrivals. daca, they can renew? two exclusions, new applicants and for those who have a pretty -- a previously denied application. >> if you do not have a previously and nine application you are accepted and you're not new because you're already in it. dacacan then renew your c status. >> the language speaks for itself. i listen just today and she said that her bill would deny -- [inaudible] >> we have not had a hearing on this. had a -- have not judiciary hearing so we do not understand the implications. before we move forward to change the rules and regulations, the american government invited them to come forward and they did and before you move forward you should consider it because there are many

>> well, again, the doca, the announcement of the deferred action for childhood arrivals, more than tworight, was for me actually a way to kind of set up the ground, that's the ground, and remember when that happened, some republicans say oh, my god, now we're letting all this happen, this is amnesty for these young people. all this is a temporary solution, before congress actually decides to do something. >> what happens if they decide not to do it? >> honestly, i don't think -- i don't think that the asian community, i don't any the immigrant community will let the president get away with an action. i don't think that's going to be acceptable. and i think the president knows that. >> it's not the president's action, it's the house's inaction, they're the ones that have the responsibility to write laws and this system is broken. if you're from the left or you're from the right. you say the same thing, immigration is broken. if the congress, if the people behind you right now decide not to act, which is very probable. what do you think you could do? >> i'm sorry, i just want to make sur

we want to stop the funding for doca.ssage. >> we have a minute left and i want to bring in congressman jeffries. back in 2008, some members of your party, democrats filed bills to impeach george w. bush for his conduct of the iraq war. is this any different than what democrats did to president bush? >> of course it's completely different. house republicans are clearly taking up on a march towards impeachment -- >> did democrats take the house on a march towards impeachment in 2008? >> not at all because then speaker nancy pelosi clearly said impeachment is off the table. congress has several other -- >> basically that's what john boehner said this week too, sir. >> john boehner did not say that. he not make an unequivocal statement. john boehner took position before he won't shut down the government but he moved forward and shut down the government for 16 days. so there's no real credibility there. we're not clear who actually is running the house of representatives. ted cruz the junior senator from texas seems to have o

we are freezing the program and as of july 30th no federal money can be spent on the doca program ork authorization to those who unlawfully enter the country. we voted in such a way, that it would handicap the president and keep him while we are away in august trying to grant amnesty to another class or grouch aliens entering the country. >> i am confused, because the president was in the podium and we played the clip. well congress is not doing anything and they will not act and of course, the senate has gone home and he threatened to veto a bill he didn't personally right. i don't know how he became the monarch rather than the president. how frustrating is. it you stayed there and got a bill done and yet he says that you are not doing anything. >> that's what he wants to say and harry reid the same thing. we have 367 bills on harry reid's desk. we want to uphold the constitution. article one, section eight calls for, gives the process of naturalization to congress, not to the executive branch. this is the jurisdiction of the house. it is laid out in the constitution and when you lo

. >> that was him saying it's not an option to increase docca for the parents of doca kids. >> i thinks changed is that the american -- the american public supports and went home for the august recess without having passed the needed legislation. there's clearly room for the president to use the authority that he has to step in and provide some relief for people who would have benefitted from republican leadership had the congress acted. >> former attorney general gonzalez wrote that the president should act deferred deportation of nicaraguans lives in the united states. >> actually our president, our constitutional lawyer president got it right with you jose in a number of other interviews where he said i can't ignore the needs of the united states. the fact that congress didn't pass legislation the president didn't ask for or asked for and did not act on it. our system isn't that the president can just step in and -- the house of representatives acted last week, they passed a bill that actually changed a 2008 law to alleviate the so-called crisis on the border. they passed legislatio

>> the numbers that have been tossed around, we're talking about doca eligible recipients, we're talkingut parole in place, we're talking about deferred action, we're talking about family unification strategy, redefining and clarifying what extreme hardship, the hispanic caucus and others have presented a template to the administration, they have it and when the president makes his announcement, we'll be able to gauge how much of that he took into account. but the fact remains that whatever the president does, the theatrics that we're seeing from senator rubio, in terms of shutting down the government and punishing every american for their lack of action, i think is the height in hypocrisy to be honest with you. >> where do we go from there? they're saying the president should be consulting with congress, even a congress that doesn't do anything with immigration, it's their responsibility to act or to not act. if he does go along with kp executive action on immigration, do you think this is going to have an impact on the november races coming up? >> i think a candidate, in my state here

the opportunity to speak with the president, i have asked him why he is not considering expanding doca for example, he has said in the past that he just felt he couldn't do that. what has changed do you think for him to now be able to say he should be willing to at least look at that possibility? >> i think what changed is quite frankly the window of opportunity in terms of compromising, waiting for the house of representatives, and for boehner to call up the senate bill, his announcement and proclamation, we're not going to do anything about immigration reform for the rest of the year, i think the window closed. and the olive branch that the president sometimes is criticized for that only live branch, the fact remains that there was a -- they're not going to do anything, the republicans, and now the last and final option for relief comes to the president. >> congressman, thank you for being with us this morning. see you soon. >> thank you, jose. >> coming up, hawaii hunkers down not for one, two storms headed that way, we'll go to the hawaiian islands and jim cantore to check on the p

, how it would happen, a few of the possibilities that are being batted around here, expanding the doca program, to not only kids, but parents of those kids who have been allowed to stay here and study here. and also to take the emphasis off of deporting those who don't have criminal records. in other words, to give those who are here, who have clean, criminal records work permits. so those are some of the ideas that are being discussed, being debated, but there is a lot of concern about potentially overstepping the law and i think that's why you're seeing this process take such a long time. ezra? >> nbc news white house correspondent, kristen welker, thank you so much for being here tonight. >> absolutely. >> in his press conference tonight, president obama laid out his negotiations between the israelis and the palestinians that are now underway in egypt. >> the u.s. goal right now would be to make sure that the cease-fire holds, that gaza can begin the process of rebuilding, and that some measures are taken, so that the people of gaza feel some sense of hope and the people of israel f

i mean, a really, really tremendous price, which was a vote on ending doca. the bill that would allow dreamers to stay in the country. we're talking about 550,000 people who have taken advantage of this program who would now under this bill, it's never going to become a law, they would be deported essentially. they couldn't renew whatever they get to stay in the country. that is a vote that's going to really harm the republican party and anyone who has ambitions to be president for a long time. >> that's what i -- what i was thinking of last night because i was remembering when president obama first did the executive action in 2012 to do deferred action to protect these young dreamers, mitt romney was asked about it running against obama in 2012 and it was one of those situations you could see what an awful political situation he was put in because he didn't want to say the president was wrong because by saying the president was wrong he's basically saying i want to deport the kids. he didn't want to say he's right because the whole romney thing is he's never

what senator cruz did is raise the spectra what we refer to is doca a program that president obama puto place that basically allows the children to not be deported from the united states. and he basically inserted that as an issue into this debate. it's why we saw them set up this vote where they were going to vote on the border bill and hold a vote to basically strip the president of that power. cruz sort of convinced this block of conservatives that wasn't good enough, that removing that power from president obama needed to be in the bill itself. and that is a huge problem for republicans who there is a member of the house who represents a district right outside denver and it sort of reflects the nation as a whole. they heavily hispanic. putting that into the bill made it untenable for a lot of those moderates to vote for it. if it weren't for senator cruz, that portion of the debate would have been a lot quieter. >> nbc kasie hunt, thank you so much. >>> coming up, ray rice speaks out for the first time since his suspension. >> that night, you know, i just replay over and over in my