this is don junior. biggest twitter troll in the world, one of the biggest supporters of his dad couldn't get his own father on the phone saying how bad this is. if you watch what he says publicly in his twitter feed today, you wouldn't believe that he was thinking such stuff. >> yeah, i mean, these people up to their very family members of trump were really putting on a performance and you could see them sort of honing that performance over the course of both trump's campaign and then as president they saw what people wanted. they saw what people were responding to and they started dialing it up in those sort of ways. and, you know, the correlation between what was happening in trump world and fox world, you know is very clear and they were talking. i mean, i think it's wild and i have heard many people mention this that journalists, quote unquote journalists at fox felt they could call the chief of staff and tell them what to do. that is -- [ laughter ] -- a symbolic relationship to say the least. this

fox news, you know, don junior, whatever. but yet the grift keeps going. do you understand what i'm saying? nobody cares about the truth, it seems. >> i do, don. but, you know, this is kind of one of those rare moments of clarity, right? there's a concept in the law in evidence called an excited utterance. it's an exception to the hearsay rule. and the reason that courts allow it is based on this idea that when someone is in a state of shock or under stress, that what they say is inherently trustworthy. and when i was listening to these texts being read out, i thought of this concept. these are excited utterances. this is how these people, these fox news journalists, you know, were perceiving this event at the time. whatever, you know, political comb-over they did in public hours later and now months later. and even don junior, who i don't think of as having a particularly well-worn moral compass, is perceiving this in the same way. and i think as elie said, the question is, you know, why wasn't trump responding to this? he was the one who they all believed

don junior who is -- i was going to say all of them. the biggest joke of the trump family, besides the dad is like on that day saying, you know, you got to stop this. mark meadows was on "hannity" just tonight. here is what he said. >> it's disappointing but not surprising and let's be clear about this, sean. this is not about me holding me in contempt. it's not even about making the capitol safer. we see that by some of the selective leaks going on right now. this is about donald trump and about actually going after him once again continuing to go after donald trump. >> it's painful to listen to, guys. osha, enough. >> don, here is the bottom line for meadows. he cannot be both loyal to trump and tell the truth. and this is the thing he's caught between in terms of cooperating with congress. given what they have, actual text messages that, you know, between him and other people, he has to name names. he has to really -- he was in the thick of it and so he either has to throw trump under the bus, which is going to be, you know, politica

they briefly mentioned this on air, just a little bit, talked about the don junior texts.g the real substance here, fox news is as a company is not commenting nor are any of the hosts who are named here, and you know, these are just a few of the texts. presumably the committee has lots of other texts from fox news personalities and other right-wing entertainers to meadows and others. the people are involved are not commenting but laura ingraham's words are actually true. she says to meadows, this is hurting all of us. now, she, i think, is referring to gop. she's referring to pro-trump media world and the pro-trump allies, hurting all of us, but actually, this is hurting all of us as americans, this denialism, this rewriting of history, this attempt to paper over what happened is hurting all of us so laura, i think she's right about that. >> this is not over. more information will be coming out. thank you very much. >> thank you, brian. >>> all right, a key inflation figure just hit its highest level on record, what this means for all of the prices that you are paying. tha

as we've noted, the committee has clearly identified don junior, has clearly identified and named the fox hosts but did not name the lawmakers who also texted mark meadows who they read the texts from. they haven't given really a specific reason why, only promising that lawmakers' names will eventually be revealed. what do you think of that? strategy or special treatment? >> oh, i have no idea, kate. i wouldn't hazard a guess what congressional leadership is thinking with respect to this particular issue. listen, they've indicated that those names will be revealed in the future. i don't know why there's an absolute need to know that information at this particular point in time. >> other than the public just wants to know more, as always, as well as journalists. liz cheney has now said repeatedly that meadows must testify because at least in part to -- it leads to answer what she calls a key question and what -- and how she has described it a couple of times now is this. did donald trump through action or inaction corruptly seek to obstruct or impede congress' proceedings? and that lan

john june done -- don junior.t a text from your daddy. >> this was a genuine shock to me. i would not have pegged don junior as more reasonable than donald trump. >> oh, he's the biggest actor of them all. if you read mary trump's account of that family, you know, donald trump slapped him for thinking about joining the military because he thought the military were losers. the relationship between the two people named donald trump, there needs to be a psychiatrist on this panel to make that make sense. there is a lot going on there. even he comes out and is telling, you know, mark meadows, not his own father but mark meadows, make it stop. saying he has to get out here and show leadership. he's got to show leadership. but let's show don junior on fox news with mark meadows and this is before the rally. here he was dancing around. let's show him. >> mark meadows an actual fighter, one of the few. a real fighter. thank you, mark. >> have the courage to do the right thing, fight. >> one of the president's sons texted

even trump's son, don junior, told meadows quote, he's got to condemn this shit, asap. >> they tried to weaponize text message slisktly leagued them to put out a narrative that quite frankly the president didn't act and i can tell you this is -- the president did act. >> reporter: the department of justice has the final say on whether meadows will face charges. and his case is not as straight forward as steve bannon's who the department moved quickly to indict. but they believe they've built a strong case. >> the supreme court has made very clear that executive privilege is not execute and that's exactly what mr. meadows is claiming. the fact he sent all these documents shows he understands that he doesn't enjoy absolute privilege. >> reporter: behind the cameras today, the committee pressed on. interviewing several witnesses, including dustin stockton, a key rally organizer and keith kellogg, former vice president mike pence's national security adviser. kellogg was in the oval office on january 6th and the committee believes he has direct knowledge of trump's conduct on that day. co

don junior went on stage and accused democrats of cheating.cheat, tried so hard that they tried to install someone atop the justice department and overturn the results of elections in multiple states was donald trump, and it appears his allies in congress were in on it, according to richard donoghue's notes on a call with the acting a.g. and i wonder how far sort of inside the roots of the republican party this anti-democratic movement feels to you. >> that's why i think this quip of rand paul's is so significant. it would be easy to dismiss this as kind of a great headline for "the onion," right? rand paul accuses democrats of getting people to like them. really funny. that's great on a micro-level but on a much deeper level, there's more going on here because as you say, this reflects kind of the strategy moving forward. it's not only a deflection and a distraction from what they're doing, the gop, in terms of limiting access to votes, gerrymandering, redistricting to the point of illegality, to the point where doj is going to need and is su

his son don junior was trying to send text messages to him in the midst of the insurrection so don juniorto go to mark meadows. this is a man that's shown himself to be oblivious to norms of political behavior because -- everyone is in service of this big lie that donald trump still won the election that was over a year ago. he lost the election by 7 million votes and still a year later perpetuating that lie. this say grotesque proversion of masculinity they're willing to attack democrats but they won't stand up to autocrat who is basically a guy on a golf course because he's a bully. they won't stand up to him but they have a -- they won't defend their people in the united states congress under attack. what does that say about our country? how do you call yourself an american and patriot when you won't defend your colleagues under attack? >> so much hypocrisy has been revealed this week. so many people in congress were sending texts to mark meadows and now voting and pretending as if nothing happened on january 6th. the fact they made such hay about what happened with hillary clinton and

so don junior had to go to mark meadows.his is a man who has shown himself to be completely oblivious to all sorts of norms of political behavior, all because everyone is in service of this big lie that donald trump still won the election. that was over a year ago. he lost the election by 7 million votes and there's still a year later, still perpetuating that lie. i think this is a grotesque perversion of masculinity by these tough-talking republicans, that they are willing to attack democrats but they won't stand up to an autocrat who is basically a geriatric guy on a golf course in mar-a-lago, simply because he's a bully. they won't stand up to him. they won't even defend people in the united states congress under attack. how do you call yourself a patriot when you won't stand up and defend your own colleagues when they're under attack? >> the fact that so many people in congress were sending texts to mark meadows and now are voting, are pretending as if nothing happened on january 6th. the fact that they made such hay abo

he leaked fake don junior emails, fabricated the transcript of trump's ukraine call to make trump sounde a mobster, he read the phony steel dossier into the congressional record and for his latest stunt he doctor to text message sent to mark meadows in order to smear one of his fellow lawmakers. >> q the first graphic. this reads on january 6th, 2021, vice president mike pence as president of the senate should call out all electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all. you see why this is so critical to ask mister meadows about, lawmakers suggesting the former vice president simply throw out votes. laura: the congressman who sent that text was jim jordan and schiff erased the second part of the text. here's that part in full. on january 6th, 2021, vice president mike pence should call out all the electoral votes that he believes are unconstitutional as no electoral votes at all and in accordance with guidance from founding father alexander hamilton and judicial precedent. joining me is molly hemingway, fox news contributor. the january 6th committee

i want to get your reaction, tex texts from your cousin don junior. he's got to condemn this. are you surprised he wassing if -- was going to his chief of staff to get to his own father? >> no, it doesn't surprise me at all. on one hand i would like to think it's because donald wouldn't answer his own phone calls. i think it's worse. donnie knew things were going south and that they were all on the wrong side of this and yet he also knew that the message he had to send his father was a message his father did not want to hear and donnie's a coward and he did not want to face it himself. so he basically outsourced it to mark meadows. >> this is what a source is telling cnn, that your uncle, the former president, is annoyed with mark meadows and feeling blindsided. meadows is handing over documents and trying to appease him by refusing to testify. you would think meadows would realize only undying fult is accepted here. >> it is kind of odd. it's one of the few things that meadows was so forth coming with the committee before changing his mind about showing up in person but yet h

so all of these folks, everybody at fox news, all of the people that are in congress, don junior, don senior, all of them, all of them have taken the vaccine. there is another golden rule here that i think we ought to talk about, joy. this say party that is always billed itself as the party of lies. and it's not just about giving somebody the freedom orliberty to kill themselves by not protecting themselves. vaccines are about protecting others. they are about preserving the lives of people you encounter. let's talk about health care workers. the doctor works with every day. they are exposed when these unvaccinated people show up in the hospital and they are then in danger so this is all about a very christian principle. whether or not you care about others enough to accept the unquestionable sooins that this vaccine not only can save your life but it can save the life of people you care about and strangers that you encounter. >> yeah, the first person that told me this is a death cult, the trump party is a death cult, who is absolutely right is also the person that said to me is a re

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even his own name sake don junior, they knew the truth. they all knee exactly what they were seeing with their own eyes, even though now they're acting like nothing happened. no big towel. tourists. the fraud was everywhere. they were watching live. everyone knew it was wrong. those hosts knew, the trump supporting law mangers knew it. trump's own family knew it. so now what? >> we're watching what you are on the house side and it will be interesting to hreveal the participants involved. >> interesting. it sure will be interesting to find out exactly who said what to whom on january 6th. >> did you speak with president trump on january 6th? >> yeah, i mean, spoke with the president last week. i speak with the president all the time. i spoke with him on january 6th. i talked with president trump all the time and that's -- i don't think that's unusual. i would expect members of congress to talk with the president of the united states when they're trying to get done the things they told the voters in their district to do. i'm actually kind of

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and i think don junior is potentially another. >> now, this is significant. because meadows' text messages aren't the only one in the committee's possession and they're becoming central pieces of evidence. last week, ali alexander, who founded the stop the steal movement, sat down for eight hours -- this isn't him, so let's take him off the screen, sat down for eight hours with the january 6th committee. yesterday, we found out a little bit about his deposition. alexander reportedly told the committee about his communications with a trio of congressmen. alexander has previously claimed that, quote, we four schemed up to put maximum measure on congress. to date, the committee has not subpoenaed any members of congress, but events of the past week indicate that they are closing in. congressman biggs, brooks, and gosar represent another worrying aspect of the modern republican party. as the associated press put it, they're among a number of republicans who, quote, resist saying three simple words. joe biden won. nearly a year into the joe biden presidency, they

one of the most remarkable things that liz cheney has done is -- she has gone on the record with don junior's text. this is an exchange that goes back and forth where he says -- he says that, quote, he's got to condemn this shit as soon as possible, and then he says to mark meadows, again, we need to know the address. he has to lead now. it has gone too far and gotten out of hand. that's the president's son who did not go to his father, perhaps couldn't go to his father, and went to mark meadows. >> you know what's amazing is to me the shakespearean aspect of this stands out. donald trump jr. yelling so feebly. it's your father. >> right. >> and you got to go to mark meadows who's known the guy for a couple years when you've known him for 40 some odd years. there's the shakespearean part of it. i think it's so crucial, gloria. here's the text exchange we have, this specific one between donald trump jr. and mark meadows as the actual insurrection is happening. >> as the violence continued, one of the president's sons texted mr. meadows, quote, he's got to condemn this shit asap. the capitol po

he thought don junior's text to him saying this is the time to lead, texted mark meadows saying thisident to lead and he didn't do it. that's the moment he realized he felt he had been conned. he looked for leadership in the president and it never came. >> thank you. >>> now the decision to charge meadows is in the hands of attorney general merrick garland. evan perez joins us from the justice department. how long do we expect it to take for the attorney general and the u.s. attorney for d.c. to make a decision about whether or not to prosecute mark meadows? >> well, the justice department is not saying right now, jake. but, you know, there are all the indications we're getting is that this is probably not going to take -- this is going to take longer than the 21 days it took for the prosecutors and the u.s. attorneys office in d.c. to study that matter to investigate that case against steve bannon, which they believe was a much more straightforward case. in this case, meadows has filed a lawsuit, for instance. so that case is now in front of a judge and it is possible that that coul

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