but it was not for donal trump. the seemingly spontaneou protest took place in nashville, tennessee when students walked out of their schools and protest, marching to the state capital to protest the republican governor an republican state legislature absolute refusal to do anythin to protect those students from mass murderers in thei classrooms the more people showed up toda and continue to show up tonigh in nashville, protesting republican governing interference to the mass murde of children than all of th protesters who have showed u anywhere in america to protest donald trump being prosecute for paying off a point star in ways that may have violated th law. donald trump stopped asking fo protests after no one showed u the first time he aske protesters to rise up agains the manhattan district attorney no one showed up that was two weeks ago donald trump summoned his 74 million voters from all over the country. to manhattan to protest hi arrest that he said was what happened that day. the day before donald trum sa

then they can appear not to be prejudiced against donal trump. trump calls the manhatta district attorney and the judg in this case trump haters. he calls their wives trump haters there is nothing improper abou a prosecutor or judge hating the defendant. it's happened many times they do take an oath to trea that defended fairly prosecutors and judges of th nuremberg trials hated the nazi's they were put on tria for the extermination of 6 million jews many prosecutors have hate murderers, who they have prosecuted many judges have hated rapists of children and murderers of children that have appeare before them. their oath required them t treat those defendants fairly. the prosecutors of organized crime -- joe gaudy, who donald trum models himself after, it had every right to hate john gati, but they have no right to trea him unfairly as a defendant, i know prosecutors who hated defendants it made no difference to how they did their jobs. some of those defendants wer found guilty, some of them wer found not guilty donald trump's ramblings into micro

or, run desantis and donal trump. but, they have also thrown themselves fully into this thing, they have not sai things like donald trump wil have a trial and is presumed innocent until proven guilty he may walk away and nothing will have happened they are not saying that, they talk about it legitimate prosecution. >> exactly, it really is fascinating to think the peopl who could be running against former president trump are not waiting back and saying let' see how this plays out let's think about the person who lives in the house right behind me who is president biden. the white house said we are no going to comment on an ongoing criminal investigation reminds me of the 2020 electio where former president trump had a big debacle on his hands when it came to the covid-19 pandemic he was telling people to tak clorox to treat the virus, and he had all of these really tough issues you saw that candidate biden really stepping back and letting him muddy the waters in this case, the people who would be former presiden trump'

jean carroll civil rape trial against donal trump. quote, the case is ms. e. name, to pursue justice and ge her life back that was part of th opening statement from e. jean carroll's lawyer to explai while she is taking donald trump to court e. jean carroll, a writer, i now trump raped her in the dressing room of a new yor city department store in the 1990s and then defamed her whe she went public with his allegations in 2019. she, like many victims, did no reported to the police at th time but even though the statute of limitations has expired for criminal investigation and criminal charges, e. jea carroll is able to sue donal trump for the rape in civi court under a 2022 law in ne york that opened a one-yea window for adult victims o sexual offenses. today, six me and three women were selecte to the jury who heard th opening statements from both e jean carroll and zone trump' lawyers. this jury will determine whether to award damages to e. jean carroll if they find al trump liable for assaulting he and for defaming her and we will discuss what the standard i

counting me will be as people vote next year that may be the most important thing, we don't know who donal trump's opponents are going to be, the race against trump wil have surprises, because it i trump. i think we know the course o that if ron desantis or some of the other candidates - different races. i think a harder race, in many respects, because you had th generational difference betwee the democrat and republica nominees, about the issues are largely going to be the same none of these republican candidates really have covered themselves in glory in terms o protecting democracy they are almost all seemin okay with abortion being banne across the and tire country, you have those faultlines, but it will be a close race. again, listen, bill clinton, ronald reagan even for a time, george w. bush, barack obama, lot of the presidents who went on to win a second term didn't look exceedingly strong this time and their election cycle. >> let me ask you about this very wise thing you set. don't make a referendum, mak it a choice. and again, when i lost election, that was, i want to be easy, because i

the decision to indict donal trump was not made on the basi of politics, it was made on th basis of lawy a grand jury o his peers. and as a criminal defendant, donald trump is entitled to du process, he's entitled to th presumption of innocence and he should surrender himsel to manhattan district attorney and defend himself in a cour of law, rather than attempt to delegitimized the process. and i find it outrageous tha house republicans have bee intent on intimidating alvin bragg, the manhattan distric attorney, and interfering with a ongoing criminal prosecution that, to me, is a violation of ethics, it's abuse of power. you know, republicans ofte decry the -- weaponization of government, and here you have republican weaponizing government against the manhattan district attorney >> is that what concerns you the most as this process begins? because it's not about political weaponization, thi is about the american lega system and that's getting lost. >> i'm concerned about attempt by house republicans t de-legitimize the american legal system we should all allow the lega process to unfol

as evidence in miss carroll-scape, along with the testimony of two othe women who have accused donal trump of sexual assault. in their opening statement yesterday, curls attorneys pointed the jury to trump' access hollywood remarks, th ones about getting away with sexual salt, and they said i is exactly what he did to miss carroll. when miss carroll took the stand today, she said that donald trump's alleged assault left her unable to ever have a romantic wife again. the short answer is becaus donald trump raped me. as for the impact, carol say trump's remark shattered m reputation, and i'm here to tr to get my life back. so that is what happened allegedly too e. jean carroll. but the impact of that language, of that defense that she wasn' his type, the ripple effect of that locker room talk, that al extends way beyond the walls o the manhattan courtroom. because if trump became an opera tar of male entitlemen -- a total false accusation, and don't know anything about her. and she has made this charge against others and, you know, people have t be careful people are playing with very danger

. >> the only person in th courthouse who looked close to tears that day was donal trump. and even the emotionall unstable donald trump manage to only cry on the inside. courthouse workers should ge used to this. if he is arrange next month in atlanta, donal trump will surely tell the lie that courthouse workers were crying. and he will say th same thing if special federa cross cuter drafts mid bring donald trump in for rain meant on the documents case and or the january 6th case. if donal trump is arraigned four times, four times in court houses around america, people working in those court houses we'll be accused of chronic by donald trump and no one will see them cry. except donald trump. an mike across and, we hits donal trump passionately, will beg donald trump to give his first television interview after his latest arraignment, to tucke carlson every time donald trum is arraigned. and tucker and donald will sit across fro each other, each time, you hav them filled with hatred, eac of them in his own way desperately trying to get th approval of tucker carlson's audienc

>> go ahead. >> but on the republican side, you have to remember this, h wants to go up against donal trump, michae just said, that he stood wit donald trump you have to figure out if your rhonda santas how am i the alternative, the strong as donald trump you can't do that as in, wow we're not gonna extradite hi to new york wow, we are here for him. how are you going to distanc yourself from the man that you feel is not good enough to b president so there is fracture right there but the question is, who i that alternative, is it ti scott is the republican part ready to put a black man in th white house, a man who say there is no racism in this country a man who pulled dow policing twice police reform twice ask feed been pulled ove by police who was th alternative who can go u against donald trump who, a lo of people, are fascinated with it is not always about his policies, it is about hi ideology it is fitte republican party, and yes he's a carnival barker, but he does it so well, because he is stil number one but they don't want him as president so he is goin to come up >> chairman steele,

but he has because he is the first one to bring thi indictment against donal trump. le. the fact that it was a rac against time to bring charges, and had to be raised by donald trump has a potential defens in this particular case. versus seeing something from fulton da, fani willis, ou special counsel jack smith >> that is exactly what think. i think that it is a functio of the statute of limitations. this is, if you're jus comparing the types of crime that the former president is being investigated for or it's crimes that happened before, during, and after hi presidency i think that everyone woul agree that this is, not that this is not an important case, but this is the least importan of those that are unde investigation. and it is also one that need to be brought by a certain timeframe. as you point out. and i'm confident that we ar going to see ongoing activit in the manhattan distric attorney's office in connectio with its financial investigation. which is something that the da has within his purview but i think that's the reaso that we are seeing this case g fir

. >> and said it was donal trump. >> right his own attorney general said, if donald trump ever takes the stand, it's a complete disaster we all know that he is likely, by may of this year, to be found by a new yor jury as a rapist >> diana florence and nick akerman great to have you here at the table >> that is all in on thi wednesday night, alex wagner tonight starts right now >> good evening chris, i'm gonna just set the trump of al this aside, congratulations to you, buddy >> thank you, buddy. >> for ten years >> i'd like to say, this seems like a long time to people haven't known you for how many is, 26 i wanna go. with >> my good. >> we don't look at the over 25 >> congratulations you deserve all the accolades, i have loved watching you fo these decades, but especially, on the air for the last ten. you should be really proud o what you've done i am very proud of you i don't need to soun diminishing. as your friend it's awesome. getting choked up. >> i'm happy and proud to do i with you >> yes, that's the best part who knew >> thank you to all of you a home for joining us this ho

down to the status of criminal defendant for the first time i his life the highway that carried donal trump along the east river i named after someone who is bor into what donald trump alway dreamed of being accepted by manhattan aristocracy. franklin delano roosevelt wa descended from the origina dutch settlers of manhattan. he went on to become the mos successful president i american history unlike donald trump, fdr was reelected, not just once, thre times but. franklin roosevelt won world war ii, and before that, h created social security, the minimum wage, the 40 hour work week, and change the ver purpose of government to serve people in ways never imagine by any president before him. fdr drive maybe america's most famous urban highway, an riding on it today to hi arraignment, donald trump knew there will never be anything like fdr drive named after donald trump and his hometown. here's district attorney alvin bragg's description of donal trump's criminal conduct >> less than two weeks befor the presidential election, michael cohen wired $130,000 t stormy daniels lawyer. that payment wa

of some of the attacks tha have been leveled by donal trump and his allies against da, has been specificallyut th fact that the da has decline to take on some lower leve charges. yet he is going after donald trump. now i know in january of 2022, once alvin bragg took office he issued a memo that talked about the kinds of charges tha he would not, they wouldn't go after anymore. they are jumping, is that what these attacks are? about explain that to us >> what he is saying is th attacks are saying that he would not go after a certain crime. he is saying that jumpin should not be crowding up th jails. we ought to be putting violent criminals in jail. and some of the crimes tha were higher has gone down unde alvin bragg. so i think that they are jus playing games, trying to stoke people's fears alvin bragg has been a prosecutor for a long time he as a record, he was voted i because of that record and i think for them to try an say that is erroneous. but again i'm having michael cohen on again the next hour o politicsnation following you eric holder will be on again, we are talking about case th

ditched attorney ran on a platform to take him down they ran on platforms that involved plastic using donal trump or they believe ha committed crimes tell me the distinction there between -- is an argument that donald trump has that they ar politicized because they ran o a platform of going afte donald trump >> well, he can make the argument, but the question really is not alvin bragg or laetitia james what they have a standin between the prosecutors and trial is a grand jury you have 23 people average citizens picked at random in new york county, manhattan, and they ha to sit in judgment and in th state system the prosecuto can't tell the grand jury want to do the prosecutor cannot sa i want you to indict trump all the prosecutor can do is bring the evidence donald trump actually had witness on his behalf there, and apparently the witness was coaching enough so that the da had to produce more evidence > they ended up bringing david pecker back who, already testified. so something happens there tha was not a trial, but the grand jury had questions the da has to persuade the grand jury, not by bul

you've probably seen donal trump's lawyer, joe tacopina quite a bit lately, he's a one on tv trying to o the various indictment and investigations the ex president is facing today, that guy, joe tacopina, was the trump lawyer in th courtroom lawyering. cross-examined a woman who say that donald trump raped her. tacopina intensely pressed e jean carroll repeatedly, askin why she did not scream for hel during the assault she said, quote, i'm not a screamer you can't beat up on me for no screaming. >> he responded, quote, i'm no beating up on you, i'm askin questions. women who come forward, one of the reason they don't come forward as because they're always asked, why didn't you scream and then, in tears she said, h raped me whether i screamed or not. msnbc legal analyst, recen reuben, who has been following this case from day one was inside the courtroom today, sh joins me now i have to say, just readin through your reporting and others transcript, it sounds like an incredibly emotional intensity in that courtroom. >> a heavy day absolutely >> how does th cross-examination start of >> c

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with al things trump you won a pulitzer prize for exposing what the pulitzer judges called quote, donal trump'siness empire riddle with tax dodges. i have to ask, are you surprised it took a hush money payment to stormy daniels to finally gets trump indicted? >> first of all good morning and thank you for having me. i have to say it is always a thing that you don't expect so in a way no, but this has been he has led a life of tax avoidance and just moving righ up to the edge of the law, eve as we have reported includin in that story mentioned that when the pulitzer where he feared right into it right t tax fraud. but he has, for his whole life had a pattern of behavior that so far has only faced civi consequences for and now on tuesday we're gonna see something quite remarkable which is a criminal proceeding involving donald trump it is quite just to thin because of all the simpl litigation that he has bee involved in and the civi thinks it can probably get som of this finally moved into the criminal realm >> you spent 18 months investigating trump and hi fraudulent tax schemes attorney general

contributed t donald trump's so-called sto the steal fundraising was th victim of a swindle by donal trumpump' possession of government documents, including top secre documents after he left th presidency the new york times reporting that federal vestiges ar asking witnesses whether forme president donald j trump showe off at two aides and visitors map that he took with him when he left office that contains sensitive intelligence information for people wit knowledge of the matter is set one person briefed on th matter said that investigators have asked about mr. trump showing the map while aboard a plane. another said that based on the questions they were, askin investigators appeared t believe that mr. trump showed map to at least one advise after leaving office a third person with knowledg of the investigation said th map might also have been shown to a journalist writing a book after this break, we will have more on dendfeant trump with mary mccord and ben rhodes ♪ a beach house, a treehouse, ♪ ♪ honestly i don't care ♪ find the perfect vacation rental for you booking.com, booking. yeah

with trump are now fair game legally speaking, is a ver huge deal here the second bad thing for donal trump, the special counsel's criminal probe into trump' handling of classified materials the mar-a-lago documents case it is pretty clear trump considers this a bad thing las night at his post arraignmen victory rally. trump was fixated on tha mar-a-lago investigation he called jack smith a radical left lunatic, and a bomb thrower. he made a public spectacle o wrestling with his potential guilt. >> we were negotiating in very good faith proper way in order to return some or all of the documents that i openly and in very plain sight brough with me to mar-a-lago from our beautiful white house. >> openly and in plain sight that does not make it, oh, wai a second trump apparently has reason to be worried about all this. we now know the doj is focusin in on trump's allege obstruction down at mar-a-lago and that trump's former secret service agents are reportedl testifying friday before a grand jury as part of that investigation. the new york times reports trump is particularly spooke that his at

katie, thanks, but donal trump's niece mary trump - from her cousin.> that is about as little a she could possibly have said i think ivanka made her choice a long time ago to go he separate way and she understands that her future does not lie with remaining connect tour father. this is either personally, publicly or politically. when we come back, we will tal about who is standing with trump and who is staying conspicuously quiet so far one prilosec otc each morning blocks heartburn all day and all night. prilosec otc reduces excess acid for 24 hours, blocking heartburn before it starts. one pill a day. 24 hours. zero heartburn. (vo) businesses nationwide are switching to verizon business internet. blocking heartburn before it starts. (woman) it's a perfect fit for my small business. (vo) verizon has business internet solutions nationwide. (man) for our not-so-small business too. (vo) get internet that keeps your business ready for anything. from verizon. why give your family just ordinary eggs when they can enjoy the best? eggland's best. the only egg

i expect indictments to come very soon after that it may not be just donal trump. trump this investigation is into about 20 people that we know of including rudy giuliani, joh eastman and alike. it would not surprise me one bit to learn that donald trump is indicted in georgia as well remember, there is an audiotape, jonathan, of trump saying to georgia election officials bac during the election dispute. go find me 11,780 votes. which is not the way president of the united states testifies not the way a mob boss talks >> we are way overtime i have to ask you this yes or no. nbc news reporting yesterday that trump aide said they don' plan to rein in trump's attack on the manhattan da or the judge. they believe it benefits him could this lead to a gag order ultimately >> yes >> neal katyal, bank you for coming to the sunday show. coming, up a very special an inspiring easter message fro the chaplain of the u.s. senat and the presiding bishop for the episcopal church you don't want to miss this. (vo) businesses nationwide are switching to verizon business internet. (w

he served as a house majorit counsel during the first impeachment trial of donal trump, he represents the district where donald trump' hush money case is currently being heard. also with us is andrew eisman, former fbi general counsel and former chief of the -- district of new york, he is professor of practice and ny law school and an msnbc lega analyst. congressman goldman, first, to the so-called field hearin that is going to be schedule for the javits federal building, on monday, is that open to the public, that hearing >> i don't know the answer t that i don't know whether it will b televised or open to the public i assume both. certainly the chairman is doin this purely as a political stunt and i would imagine he would like as much attention o it for that reason as possible but it is purely just that lawrence, and i think that the district attorney brags lawsui put a real cherry on the top o some of these arguments, that have also been making, which i that jim jordan is acting at the behest of donald trump, an this lawsuit will be a mechanism through which th district attorney br

as we learn, and i'm sayin this obviously through donal trump. elessness is donald trump' superpower >> yes, absolutely but for now i would say that in order to have shame in the future, yo have to have examples of it. you have to save some of that. you have tomato that behavior, and certainly there are a lo of republicans who are ashamed of how donald trump comporte himself whether that caused hi the republican nomination ar not is, it looks like it wil not cost him the republica nomination >> look at the last week and a half, clarence thomas, how man experts have come on televisio and said that this is an ethic violation? this is a huge problem unless clarence thomas's conduct a straight-up illegal. he will keep on trucking >> it is horrible to kee looking and seeing these headlines. and it is so funny how on th other side, everything i george soros soros, soros and no one is saying anythin about harley what's his name? [inaudible it's horrifying, it' horrifying >> but if it was straight-up illegal, we've seen th progress for impeaching. he's no

but it is the core truth and it is this everywhere you look the sign point to the fact that donal trumpcredibly unpopula with persuadable voters outsid the republican base. everyone is so freaked out, so permanently scarred by 2016, that obvious truth is ofte obscured and the truth is that donald trump, listen to me now, doe not possess a magic power that turns political gravity upside down he is an unlikable figure wh lots of persuadable voters fin repulsive. now he is very very good i mean, incredible, really, generational talent path demanding and receiving lots o attention. but here's the thing right now that is the wors possible thing for the republican party because he cannot be ignored he refuses to be ignored he will do anything not to b ignored. there is a reason why the smar people in the republican party like mitch mcconnell who you can't deny has very struggle political instincts, doesn't want to talk about trump doesn't give quotes on trump directly there is a reason they deflect or go off the record when aske about his latest scandal d jour because they understand this the

already indicting donal trump. now we are waiting to see th weather the things that th voters consider more serious the georgia investigation, and then jack smith's twin investigations into both trump planning of january 6th an also his retention o classified documents potentially even showing the off to visitors and aids while federal agencies were trying t recover them >> eddie, i want to share with all of you, some breaking news from the beginning of the show that is on this subject matter president biden plans to tap julie chavez rodriguez to ru his reelection campaign. this, again, according to su sources familiar with th decision that we just learne about, including one of them being a white house official confirming to nbc news thi information. she is the granddaughter o labor leader cesar chavez. she is the senior adviser to joe biden at the white house and director of the office o inter governmental affairs is it too early, i guess, but ask you, your reaction to that announcement that she is going to be tea

we >> are you concerned more inflammatory rhetoric insanity as he describes, it from donal trump, we potentiall keep the court from conducting a fair trial is that out of the question? we >> yes. i think if you are talking about january 6th -- no, go ahead >> first you, then kathryn >> i think in the wake o january 6th we all need to recognize the kind of violence that donald trump's rhetoric conspired. i'll never forget a secret service agent describing to me her desire to cross a rubico for, her which was to publicly say that something was wrong and dangerous about what donal trump was saying on th campaign trail she saw the violence ramping u at his campaign events based o him saying to his supporters you know, beat him up, i'll pa for your lawyer, get him out o here he was encouraging people to violence even from the day before he was president. so i think we all need to keep this in mind secondly, i would, say alex an catherine, i know you know thi well, i covered a federal cour for many years every lawyer tells their clien be quiet, don't say a thing. but they don't think they

what those people have bee waiting for is the day donal trump's claim would appear as criminal defendant, and as o today, that name appears as criminal defendants in exactly one piece of paper that ha been released publicly it is an order by the judge in the case, judge juan marchand, that allowed alvin bragg t make the announcement yesterday, that a grand jury had indicted donald trump allen braggs announcemen included no specificity abou the charges, that one page order by the judge carries the title of the case, the peopl of the state of new york against donald j trump defendant. we're going to leave that imag on the screen for a few more seconds for the people who hav been waiting for years to se those words in a criminal case donald j trump, defendant. donald trump has, of course, been a defendant in court, man times, in civil cases, and h is still a defendant in some very important civil cases this is the very first tim that anyone has ever gotten to see the name as a criminal defendant, donald j trump. defendant. thanks to the unprofessionalism, reckless disregard for the constitu

mike pence may even, as witness, try to help donal trump. think the experience o mike pence, overall, i important evidence for the entirety of this case, and the entirety of what prosecutors have to decide, as to whethe there are criminal charges here >> do you think, devlin, tha what pence is behind close doors, is eventually going t come out assuming, i suppose if there i eventual prosecution, there's high likelihood that we're going to find out what he says right? >> right if there were a trial on any subject, presumably would ge an understanding about wha mike pence said in grand jur jury i think frankly with high-profile investigation like this, there is a high chance that at some point this version will come out. but mike pence has been very adamant that my private versio will be the same as my publi version. >> the only difference, though is he is saying it under oath, and the doj can ask some follow-up questions, which i a sure they will have devlin barrett, thank you for making the time tonight. we have a lot more to ge through this

but i think we know that donal trump, one of his tactics is t delay.will avail himself o every possible motion he can make to make this case, both ones meritorious and potentially ones that ar frivolous, but that are brough to try and delay the way he ha in other court cases across th country. so i think the judge knows who donald trump is, he has seen that he has been held in contempt and sanctioned fo bringing frivolous motions before he will keep him under control that being said, for example one of the claims he is making his he cannot get a fair trial one of the people making it so he can't get a fair trial is himself because he continues t talk about it. he needs to -- if he wants this case an jurors not to have information outside of the courtroom, he has to stop talking, his lawyers have to stop talking it'll be interesting to see of judge marchand puts a gag orde on the parties given his claim that he cannot get a fair trial, given the amount of publicity. again, he is creating the very publicity he's complaining about. we will see what the ju

>> mike pence is the mos directly and sharply incriminating witness of donal trump. he has got the words right fro the orange courses mouth, an when you can present direc evidence from the target of th investigation about th relentless pressure campaign trump was waging against pence when he was refusing to go along with trump's corrupt scheme, he is calling him a win, he is calling him the p-word he said i made a mistake when selected you as vice president there is a little nugget i pence's book that is prosecutorial gold he said, you know what, if you do not do it i am telling yo to do, it is because you are too honest bingo for a prosecutor what does that mean? >> ear to honest >> it means that donald trum knew what he was asking penc to do was dishonest. really important >> can you imagine saying that to your kids you are too honest ryan is there any indication about how much pence is able t say, because there is some limitations on this. >> i think there is a little bit of a scheme that he ra there in terms of saying tha we want to get the stuff fro the speech a

cohen but could have an effect on other witnesse perhaps those that could b still intimidated by donal trump scaring them into silence? >> let's remember that outside of the bragg case, there are three, four, maybe even more cases coming down the pike here with a lots of witnesses who worked for trump, who are very close to trump while there is a certain absur element to this particularly a joe says if you read the document it's still might cause som people to think do i reall want to have to spend money to defend myself against one of these suits from donald trump. michael cohen is going out there and raising funds an gofundme page. because it does cause money to respond to this insanity and so maybe in the back of hi mind he's thinking coincidentally one witness against me there are other traitors other rationing's out there. i'm gonna show them what happens to them. i don't think it's going t work these investigations are prett far down the road. power of subpoena gets a lot o people to tell the truth but in his mind, he's thinking like a mob boss. he wants to show that there is a price t

this gift will be reappearin in pretrial motions in alvin bragg's prosecution of donal trump. trump will try to have thi case dismissed after insisting that there should be a hearing and which the trump lawyers ge to question mark pomerantz but alvin bragg has been anticipating all of this since the day mark pomerantz's boo came out and alvin bragg would not have gone into the trump prosecutio without a thorough plan of how to handle the pomerant problem. as he prosecutes donald trump. leading off our discussion tonight, is democratic congressman adam schiff of california he served on the january six select committee and i currently a candid of united states and in california also with us is andrew weissmann, fbi general counsel and former chief of th criminal division of the eastern district of new york congressman schiff, so it look like it's very likely that mar pomerantz will end up doin some kind of deposition for ji jordan so what are you expecting from him >> i'm not quite sure whethe he will refuse to answer all questions or just some questions but i share th skepticis

trump. joining me joining me now now is is a morose - manning a new man, gold newman former political aide former political aide to to donaltrump trump and and author of the book author of the book unhinged unhinged, an insiders, and insiders account account of of the trump th trump white house. white house. thank you for thank you fo joining me joining me today. >> today let me ask hi, you this. rev. >> you were described once a trump's protegee during your shared reality television days on the apprentice. you worked for him in the whit house before things between yo and him got sour and you stood up to him. you had your own legal dispute with trump and his presidentia campaign was ordered to pay yo one point $3 million in lega fees - ruled a confidentialit agreement that you signed whil working on his 201 presidential run was in battle and i also know that you wer right now, you are attending law school what is your reaction to the indictment of the former president? >> right, thank you so much fo having me on my reaction is very much lik the rest of the country. it is time for donald trump to be brought to justice for t

the scheme, the catc and kill scheme, hatched between the guy whose name i embarrassed to say and donal trump michael cohen, thi scheme paid off first with the german strain paid off next fo trump with the nationa enquirer company making anothe payment to keep another stor quiet, - trump in the election. the second instance it was 150,000 dollar payment to this woman, whose name is karen mcdougal in both of those instances prosecutor alvin bragg sai today that the book keepin around those payments, the payment of the door man, the payment to karen mcdougal, resulted in false business statements being made on the books of the parent compan that owns the national enquirer now, that ends up bein important to all of ou understanding here into th eventual fate of donald trum because that factor ends u being important to the crimes, the alleged crimes, bein charged against trump as felonies the contention from prosecutor today, which we did not know was coming in this exact way the contention from prosecutor today is that this overall scheme was a violation of ne york election law, because new york

sodas jack smith's subpoena, if you'r mike pence we reported last night of th top of the show that donal trump lost his bid to stop mik pence from testifying, and today, special prosecutor jack smith had vice president mik pence before a federal grand jury, investigating donald trump and his role in januar six. that was fast. pence testified for more tha five hours political reports pence' closed-door appearance rocke an extraordinary flash point i jack smith's probe pence's appearance was accompanied by a frenzy of security activity in the federal courthouse in washington d.c., where u.s. marshals and other securit personnel conducted sweeps o the building before pence wa whisked inside without being spotted by cameras at th courthouse as main entrances ages former vice president did not comment on the appeals court's decision or pence' appearance, but previously indicated pence would follow the orders of the court. here's what mike pence described his final days wit donald trump in an op-ed in th wall street journal. quote, on january 5th i got an urgent call that the president was asking to

points there fo dane kelly in ozawkie county they can look at how this ha moved in recent years, donal trump2 in 2020 donald trump won here by 19 in 2016, and if you go back just decade, mitt romney was winnin this thing almost 2 to 1 ove barack obama that is the kind of pluralit -- they barely carried in thi race last, night it was no just there - by far the biggest of thos three wow counties, talkin about again 16 points for kelly, but just rewind, go back i time a bit here, and these numbers have eroded, rahman be scraped -- and again last night, winning, but this is not a traditiona republican victory so the suburbs outside milwaukee, they continue t move away from the republica party, major problem for the republican party in wisconsin, another area of concern fo republicans, you see these three counties, this is brown, county a beginning county, tha is where appleton is this is winnebago county where our scratches. all of these are counties wher donald trump actually carrie in the 2020 presidential election, last night you can see -- the democratic allied candidat actually pulled out v

he clearly thinks that donal trump poses a threat to ou country and democracy if h were to be presentick with you. trump's overall favorabl remains low, but his pol ratings continue to take the lead in the republican lineu for 2024 in fact, his poll numbers keep going up, they went up after h got indicted do you foresee any changes t that if jack smith continues t progress in his investigation? >> i certainly think there are a lot of people who were rally around him no matter what. we've seen that trump has laid a lot of ground work people are out to get him. there is this deep state, a lo of people believe that i don't think this i necessarily going to change. unless some of his opponen change what -- the former president got indicted, not a single one o them saw that as an opening to go after him they all defended him, they al said that this was some type o scam or something. look, if you want to defea donald trump, you have to take him out on that is just the reality o that ron desantis at some point i going to have to say, don trum can't get elected, donald trum is too much chaos

plus, the case against donal trump. we'll dig into the facts behin those 34 felony counts acros falsifying business records, i new york and where the histori prosecution goes from here i am symone sanders-townsend and i have something to say. ♪ ♪ ♪ 136,378 people in tennessee ar now without representation i their own state house, all thanks to the action of th republican majority. yeah, this week republican lawmakers in tennessee, treate the second memo with mor reverence than the very bedroc of the republic they claim t love i'm talking about democrac itself as parents students and legion of other everyday tennessean's demonstrated against gun violence, passionately but peacefully, at the state capital last week, in the wake of that deadly school shooting in nashville, three democratic state representatives who ha the chance to interview, justi jones, justin pearson an gloria johnson, they stood i solidarity with protesters marching to the well of th house, to demand their colleagues support gun safet reform three days

then in 2016, the presidential election, wisconsi unexpectedly swung for donal trump. michigan turned red, handing donald trump to victory. but in 2018, the democrats dominated the fall elections for statewide offices, o seeding three incumben republicans including the tw term governor scott walker republicans maintain control o both chambers in the legislature. as well as a majority of the states u.s. house seats. last november, we saw anothe shakeup during the 202 midterms the party split the major stat races. democrats kept the governorshi and the attorney general offices, republicans get the seat in the senate they gain a seat in the hous in one as heat in the state senate, resulting in a republican super majority. as you can see, there is not always an obvious guess for ho elections are going to pan out in wisconsin fast forward to this week, wisconsin showed up muelle consequential vote this time resulting in liberal winning their first majority i the wisconsin supreme court in 15 years janet, a judge on the milwauke county circuit court won a sea on the highest c

bragg is prosecuting donal trump for those hush money payments that he made to adult film star stormy daniels judiciary republicans like vic committee chair jim jordan they have tried every single trick in the book to blunt brags efforts. they have tried to muddy the waters around trump' prosecution. today's affair was a braze political stunt wher congressman jordan and his fellow republicans tried t paint new york which i statistically one of the safes big cities in the world as a crime ridden hellscape as you can expect, from th traveling maga circus, the crowd got rowdy. there were tears from -- when adler, who represents parts of ben hadn't called out the republican theatrics for what they are. >> let me be very clear. we are here today in lower manhattan for one reason and one reason only. the chairman is doing th bidding of donald trump. committee republicans resigned this hearing to the at lemonad and deter the newly electe district attorney of manhattan from doing the work that his constituents like it had to do it is the chairman's term, a weapon weaponization of th house jud

there is no accountability no matter how terribly donal trump behaves, how awful the things tucker carlson says o air, there is no comeuppance that's one end of the spectrum of answers to that questio about how the world functions, fundamentally. and the other end of the spectrum is that there is, there is some sort of guidin cosmic justice awaiting people who transgress and act horribl -- people like, well, tucker an trump. that, waiting in the wings there's some definitive moment of reckoning when all th buildup dramatic tension wil come to some satisfying an cathartic conclusion in whic the wicked are punished and -- that's, in fact, the promise o a lot of religion that happens in the afterlife and what i would say for mysel about this life is that neithe of those visions are actuall reflected in reality neither extreme is true. but i'll also say this i think, over the last seven years, as people have watche the spectacle of the trump age unfold, a lot of folks - maybe some of the people watching this program right no -- have kind of come to think tha that first model of reality, the no