convicted donald trump, signs saying that donald trump needs to be held accountable.lebrations. i would just ask if my cameraman is able to spin the camera to look at what is happening here, because there it is, roger stone has just turned up. i don't know if you can see that in the pictures, but roger stone , i believe that is him, i apologize if i got that wrong, many people now just absorbing the news. sumi: while we are seeing this, take us back to the counts. we are seeing 16 guilty counts, more than half. take us through this. nada: let's remember that these counts really run together, because these are in relation to 11 checks, 11 invoices, and 12 business -- sumi: nada, i am going to interrupt you, we are getting -- nada: he is guilty on all counts. sumi: yes, take us through this. nada: sumi, donald trump has been found guilty on all 34 counts. a member, these counts really run together, because if the jury -- remember, these counts really run together, because if the jury was going to buy into the prosecutor's case that donald trump ordered these business re

donald trump and because of the people who worked for donald trump's campaign to get him there.get monsters like donald trump thanks to people like hope hicks. people who white house reporters social kiss in the white house press briefing room, reporters whose acceptance of donald trump is warmed by the charms of hope hicks. witness hope hicks get off the witness stand today without being asked the most important question of her life. she wasn't asked that question, because it wasn't an important question in this trial. and that question is, why didn't you quit? why didn't you quit that presidential campaign in 2016 when it was so obvious to all of us that you were working for a pathological liar and a dangerous person? why didn't you quit is a much more important question than why did she cry. we'll review today's trial evidence for the rest of the hour with people who were in the courthouse with me this week and saw it all. they'll join us. all they'll join us. deep down, i knew something was wrong. since my fatigue and light-headedness would come and go, i figured it wasn't a

for donald trump, it is his thing.the crowd was a far cry from his usual, black, white, latino, orthodox jewish voters, hundreds of people who showed up in maga gear. let me be clear, it is your choice, you can align with conservative values, or the gop , if that is your jam, you may agree about economic policy or on social values. but i do have a warning for the brown and black folks who are thinking about joining up with his current openly racist iteration of the republican party. i am drawing from star wars, "it is a trap. " a different flavor of the same pygmy tactic that is already -- pick me tactic that has pitted poor white folks who vote for donald trump and his numbers. let's look at white women, the majority voted for donald trump as he openly takes credit for stripping away their legal right to their own bodies. donald trump sold the working- class white folks the lie that he would protect their jobs and lower taxes. the signature policy of his presidency was a massive tax cut for two? spoiler alert -- not t

they tack often to donald trump on phone. their aeufdz are in constant communication with donald trump's aides. so there's sort of this open door policy when it comes to a a lot of these lawmakers who are on the list appear donald trump taupbgs to a lot -- talks it a lot of them. >> lew los angeles, independent. >> thank you for taking my call and my thoughts. i want to on by saying something about the situation with students here in los angeles and how it comes to bear upon this. as you know, los angeles and were of california and other places have a lot of people from latin america appear mexican people like my family. as a younger person i was reflecting on having a conversation with my mother about these students because my own family has been in this incredibly difficult period of having kind of single issues around things like the favorite -- favorite dimension -- faith dimension. it is a little more layered tan the people that were calling earlier. so, that is within continuing i would like to say, that as a journalist

donald trump's respect, donald trump's admiration, donald trump's love. by then michael cohen probably knew that donald trump is incapable of love and luckily for michael cohen his family was capable of love, even after the horror they experienced of an fbi raid that michael cohen brought into their family home. michael cohen's wife and daughter, then in college, and his son, then in high school, did something of an intervention on michael cohen. michael cohen testified that it was conversation with his family that made him decide that it was time to escape the trump colt. by that time, what if anything had you decided about whether you would continue to lie for president trump? answer, i made a decision based on the conversation with my family. i would not lie for president trump any longer. question, if not for the campaign, would you have paid that money to stormy daniels? answer, no ma'am. michael cohen said that the day he pleaded guilty was, quote, the worst day of my life. donald trump issued a tweet that day aimed at michael cohen. michael cohen t

donald trump committed a misdemeanor— that donald trump committed a misdemeanor in— that donald trumpmitted a misdemeanor in cooking - that donald trump committed a misdemeanor in cooking the - that donald trump committed a - misdemeanor in cooking the books, the question— misdemeanor in cooking the books, the question is— misdemeanor in cooking the books, the question is can _ misdemeanor in cooking the books, the question is can they— misdemeanor in cooking the books, the question is can they also - misdemeanor in cooking the books, the question is can they also show. the question is can they also show that this _ the question is can they also show that this was — the question is can they also show that this was a _ the question is can they also show that this was a felony, _ the question is can they also show that this was a felony, that - the question is can they also show| that this was a felony, that donald trump _ that this was a felony, that donald trump falsified _ that this was a felony, that donald trump falsified business _ that this was a felony, that donald trump falsifi

before anyone ever thought of voting for donald trump, michael cohen's view of donald trump was closehipful. according to his testimony today, michael cohen felt, "i was on top of the world when donald trump told me it was fantastic." that was donald trump sword, fantastic that michael cohen got vendors who did work through fraudulent trump university to accept 20% of the amount of money donald trump actually owed to them for work done at the university. the word fantastic came up four times in michael cohen's testimony, always quoting donald trump's reaction to good news, often involving the cover up of bad news about donald trump. according to michael cohen's destiny, donald trump thought this was fantastic. the cover story in the national enquirer entitled "the donald trump nobody knows," "the national enquirer" let michael cohen edit that article as part of the deal with donald trump to publish positive stories about him and terrible stories about his political opponents and to catch and kill any stories about trump having sex with women other than his wives while married to those

donald trump.e left, he turned to his family and in that moment, did he?— in that moment, did he? the only family member _ in that moment, did he? the only family member in _ in that moment, did he? the only family member in court _ in that moment, did he? the only family member in court with - in that moment, did he? the only family member in court with him. in that moment, did he? the only i family member in court with him was erictrunlp. — family member in court with him was eric trump, his second eldest son. as trump — eric trump, his second eldest son. as trump got up, he passed right by eric, who— as trump got up, he passed right by eric, who is— as trump got up, he passed right by eric, who is sitting in the front row, _ eric, who is sitting in the front row, and — eric, who is sitting in the front row, and he _ eric, who is sitting in the front row, and he seemed to grab his upper arm row, and he seemed to grab his upper arnl or— row, and he seemed to grab his upper arnl or his _ row, and h

to the base by defending i donald trump, and if donald trump is the nominee — donald trump, and if donald nominee of the republican party which appears likely— the nominee of the republican party which appears likely at _ the nominee of the republican party which appears likely at this - the nominee of the republican party which appears likely at this point, . which appears likely at this point, he is _ which appears likely at this point, he is very— which appears likely at this point, he is very likely _ which appears likely at this point, he is very likely to _ which appears likely at this point, he is very likely to go _ which appears likely at this point, he is very likely to go down - which appears likely at this point, he is very likely to go down in- he is very likely to go down in november _ he is very likely to go down in november. and _ he is very likely to go down in november. and lose - he is very likely to go down in november. and lose to - he is very likely to go down in november. and lose tojoe i he is very likely to go down in- november. and lose tojoe biden. even _ novemb

donald trump's mouth, you can believe michael cohen when he says donald trump told me to do this, donald trump told me to pay her off because he wanted to hide this from the electorate. so, that's what the prosecution are doing because michael cohen, keeps talking about his baggage and his credibility issues, they need this jury to believe michael cohen. because if they don't, quite frankly, then they should quit because he is in many ways that main witness that puts donald trump there. all of these other witnesses are very important, they put all the pieces together, but michael cohen is the one who is going to say that donald trump and the -- they're going to be read the law, request, solicited, commanded, the need to do this. >> danny, do you think the cross examination of this witness and others has been effective? has the defense done much so far to poke holes in the prosecution's case? >> yes, but we're in the prosecution's case in chief. so, after each witness, you can say, well, that was a good witness for the prosecution, because if they weren't a good witness, the prosecution n

if donald trump is convicted, donald trump should lose secret service protection.lled, guards, in the jail. i do not think they will be any problem protecting the man who has his number. like any other prisoner. we need to dial that down a little bit. when you have bad behavior like these politicians at any level, they sued alyssa should be. if i committed a crime, my state troopers would not be sitting in the jail protected me. same should be true for the president of the united states. >> i perish the thought, they would put those adorable blue hands of yours, your puppet hands -- if you are watching, you have to go back to the intro. >> my small hands. >> take it away. i have to warn you, kurt, the way tv works, you can have 20 second sentence. >> the prosecution's case was based on the fact that donald trump cares about every dime that goes in or comes out. the 1990s, you can look it up, it was an experiment. >> one sentence. >> rich people a bunch of checks of declining value. two people, one of the winners, donald trump trump. he cares. >> there you go. kurt

is donald trump's jail. it is the first time in his life he is not allowed to leave the room whenever he wants to. it is the first time in his life when he doesn't get to decide when to enter. it is the first time in his life that he does not get to decide what to say. he is not allowed to speak. he is not allowed to move. he is not allowed to leave. there is no diet coke in the room. donald trump has not experienced anything close to that since high school and in high school it was never for more than 45 minutes or an hour at a time. donald trump's jail is upon him now. he might face more jail time. some form of real jail time, but for now, these are the very worst days of the broken life of donald trump. andrew weissmann will join us next. next. despite treatment, it's still not under control. but now i have rinvoq. rinvoq is a once-daily pill that reduces the itch and helps clear the rash of eczema—fast. some rinvoq patients felt significant itch relief as early as 2 days. some achieved dramatic skin clea

the jury friday hearing from a former donald trump aide who confirmed donald trump met with michael cohen at the white house in 2017 , where prosecutors say they devised the reimbursement scheme. but she testified the former president signed checks without reviewing them first, contradicting what donald trump said in his book and other witnesses set on trial. why rally in new jersey? this is a pretty red area of the blue state not far from me all-important philadelphia suburbs. also, this is an area and a state the former president has been bullish on winning, they are hoping to win over some voters in left-leaning states like new jersey and new york. >> who knows, maybe he will play golf later on. thank you. >>> joining in studio is a political investigations reported with the guardian, and attorney and host of the katie phang show, katie phang. custodial witnesses, stormy daniels, you were there in court , give us a sense of daniels' demeanor, the reactions from donald trump, and how engaged the jury was listening to stormy daniels as compared to other witness testimony. look, the salac

he was of use to donald trump. donald trump is on the record somewhere saying he has his use of michael cohen. michael cohen is a history of being the attack dog for donald trump. and it's a well documented history. he's been the attack dog on a number of occasions to a number of different sources. reporters or people with stories or business deals or you know, contracts he didn't think were fair. payments, bills he thought were too high. there's a long, documented history of michael cohen doing donald trump's bidding. when you're talking about this moment, october 7th, moont month before the election, what you say donald trump was doing. really, everyone in the campaign was scrambling. they needed to make sure that donald trump wasn't going to hemorrhage the support of women. suburban women. remember the people that did not elect him in 2020. the people that did elect him in 2016. what do we do to convince them this is not a big deal. locker room talk. we heard donald trump call it locker room talk after the tape

it is very - donald trump. it is very interesting, _ donald trump.nteresting, and i'm - donald trump. it is very | interesting, and i'm sure donald trump. it is very - interesting, and i'm sure you donald trump. it is very _ interesting, and i'm sure you have all read it. leading in wisconsin, arizona, and nevada. in nevada we are leading by 12 points, it is generally a democratic wrote —— democrats state. we had another very good rally at the weekend. the crowd was not shown but that is par for the course. a couple of quotes have come out. mark says, great guy, brilliant man, ourjudicial system brilliant man, our judicial system is brilliant man, ourjudicial system is broken. andrew mccarthy, donald trump should be acquitted in manhattan. it should be thrown out for the most basic of reasons. the case cannot be proven. they have got no evidence, and i am innocent, it is a political witchhunt and nobody has any —— ever seen anything like it, what thejudges has any —— ever seen anything like it, what the judges getting away with it is disgraceful, the

took her cues from donald trump. his willingness and belief that he could bend reality, right, she sort of adopted that, but it had its limits and clearly when confronted with a videotape with donald trump's voice on it saying those things, it was donald trump saying, oh, that doesn't sound like me, and i believe that hope hicks just told the court that she was not, you know, going to just immediately deny that because it was obvious to her that that was donald trump on that tape saying those things, and those of us who covered the campaign recall how, you know, initially it was, well, that wasn't my voice, and then they had to push him, and he recorded a couple of versions of a video statement, acknowledging it, dismissing it like locker room talk, and saying what bill clinton did was worse. we see him on the campaign trail disparaging other women by their looks, women who came up and said i had similar experiences to what donald trump was talking about on that access hollywood tape. over the final weeks of the camp

not donald trump. never heard him say that donald trump was communicating with him on this encrypted app. you heard michael cohen said that michael cohen was communicating if you are the defense that's what you're going to argue. if you are the prosecution you're going to say, yes, there is a reason that there are not -- there is no paperwork, because they didn't want to be found out and ultimately they were. they didn't want these things coming out. that's just the sort of art and the process, if you will, of trying a case. you have the same facts, one side has one perspective, another side has a different perspective and you're going to do your best to argue the point to the place of convincing the jurors. that's what you want to do, regardless of whether you have the paperwork, whether you don't. you have to make the best argument in front of that jury. >> i'm still thinking about what cohen has already testified to before this jury and that is he had no problem lying for donald trump. >> big deal.

trump is backin people within donald trump is back in circle but also audio recordings of donald trumpalling the payments to: reimbursements. so thejury was quite payments to: reimbursements. so the jury was quite consistent in finding donald trump guilty on all 34 of these counts. you were there — on all 34 of these counts. you were there when _ on all 34 of these counts. you were there when we - on all 34 of these counts. you were there when we heard there would be a verdict announced, when the guilty verdict was read out, just walk us through, what's the reaction among new yorkers there?— yorkers there? well, first of all, yorkers there? well, first of all. many — yorkers there? well, first of all. many of _ yorkers there? well, first of all, many of us _ yorkers there? well, first of all, many of us had - yorkers there? well, first of| all, many of us had prepared ourselves that the jury would be dismissed for the day, then all of a sudden we were told that there is a verdict. it was just an absolute sense of energy, rush, where everyone along the press line gathered themselves to

, and that leaves speaker johnson supporting donald trump, no matter what donald trump did with stormyiels or what donald trump did criminally with michael cohen. >> president trump is a friend and i wanted to be here to support him. >> that is the profoundly perverted depth to which donald trump has personally pushed the most overtly religious speaker of the house in history. no other speaker has ever worn and wielded his religion as his professed guide in every single thing that he does and every single vote, and in everything he says. religiosity is to mike johnson what vulgarity is to donald trump. it is the essence of the man. so, in supporting his friend, donald trump, mike johnson unwittingly destroyed the facade of his own political religiosity. as mike johnson was debasing himself at the courthouse today, michael cohen was asked, "was this check stub a false statement? >> yes ma'am." michael cohen repeatedly said yes ma'am to the prosecutor who asked him about all the checks he received from donald trump as reimbursement from his payment of $130,000 to stormy daniels. each of

donald trump mean strength. joe biden means weakness. donald trump means law and order. joe biden means lawfare. joe biden's policies kill jobs. if you like regulation, crime, political trials, and open borders. [indiscernible] if you want to make america safe again, make america strong again, you know what to do. let's get this country turned around fast. let's send president trump back to the white house and make america great again. host: that was governor burgum in new jersey. one of those people discussed as a possible vice presidential running mate for the former president. perhaps he rises to that list. you can add yours to the mix. one of the people not under consideration, at least of the former president himself, was nikki haley, who you saw during the primary process. adding in a post a couple days ago that nikki haley is not under consideration for the vp slot, "i wish her well" added from former president trump. the wall street journal editorial board took a look at nikki haley as a potential running mate and how to them she should stay in the mix. adding in

on his own and then to pull that off to keep that from donald trump, the scheme required donald trump and over again. >> and some of it feels so much quieter an so much less dramatic than hope hicks and stormy daniels, but the testimony in the documents, as andrew said, has note always over it. >> that was so powerful about some of that evidence, especially the handwritten notes that kind of did look like somebody was just doing their taxes really quickly. i don't know what -- they make themselves out to be this massive corporation, but they've got scribbled notes down but it all added up and fits into the scheme and kept these notes and you do have to -- like when you saw michael cohen over and over sending in those monthly invoices, for his legal retainer for legal services performed, and then you see the checks coming back from donald trump all signed, i mean, that was really powerful testimony. that is going to be what this comes down to, the believability of the falsification of the documents. >> the other piece that they spent a lot of time on is, trump is a witness in this tria

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majdi colon is was donald velcro to donald trump? it was the boss protecting the boss is what he's trying to prove. so he didn't believe that the invoice in question was fair, reasonable, justified. >> so he'd give me the task of renegotiating a specific bill cohen said, trump university fell into trouble and approximately 50 vendors had not been paid cohen says here, we are going through the anecdotes showing basically, well explain what you think the prosecution is trying to establish. so we've already seen hope hicks testified to this. she dismissed that cohen paid hush money on his own. it would go against his character. and here's the context. >> didn't like to pay. trump didn't like to pay. so if he paid, it must be a big can i give you one quick? i asked michael early on what's the most disgusting thing that you did for donald trump? his wife and his children did not like his work for don job. i said what's the thing that offended your family the most? he said there was a small vendor in atlantic city and a bill for under $100

we all have our inner donald trump we try to keep buried. news is joe biden has to get on stage with this guide, the 2020 debates were ugly and the moment that stands out when joe biden says, shut up, man. can you imagine two people saying that to each other. you know, the good news is, joe biden knows how he is debating. the most important debate prep joe biden went through was four years ago and he is the best team. he has the guru, in ron we trust. it is tough, sitting president have things to do. >> they can be a little rusty. >> they don't like people telling them they have to do this and do that, i became present without you telling me what i had to do the question is, what trump shows up. i hate saying it that way because there is only what donald trump but he has a lot of things in him dying to come out. in 2016, we did not know what we would see because he had never debated one on one. to that, he, in 2016, had message. he was obnoxious and have the lying, but immigration, healthcare, losing jobs, he had that core part that appealed

you can see donald trump.that we got from the producer inside that toward the end of stormy daniels' testimony, her voice was shaking when she was talking about the nasty tweets. i think that's the same area where she was talking about safety issues. what was the demeanor of donald trump through all of this? as we know, he got into a little trouble with the judge yesterday who felt that he was perhaps intimidating the witness or trying to influence the jury with the comments he was making within earshot of both. >> until we see -- there were a number of sidebars, discussions in private between the lawyers and judge. those may have just been legal issues. we don't know yet whether any of that was directed at a repeat performance of what so rightly irritated the judge yesterday. from what i could see, i did not see donald trump doing anything. again, from my vantage point, you would not have been able to really tell. he did, at times, seem very animated with respect to talking to his counsel. that's to be expect

person donald was.tens of millions of people are willing to continue to support this person. i think we do ourselves and the future of our country a great disservice if we assume that deep down they know better or they're just voting for him because they like some of his policies, but reject the most horrible things about him. i just don't think that's true. i think they like what he has to offer across the board. i think one of the problems with the delay in the other trials is that thus far donald has been able to show his followers parts of himself that they actually like. they like what he gets away with. i think that losing to e.j., as great a victory as it was for her and women everywhere, increased his street cred with his base. the same may be true here. >> what do you think it means the campaign conversation has to be for the next seven days to protect the country from something that isn't democratic at all? >> i think we need to start having a very serious conversation about what we want this

who vote for donald trump are smarter than donald trump and they vote for donald trump because they hate taxes as much as he does or they think abortion is murder, but the people who send money to trump who are a tiny percentage of trump voters really must be every bit as stupid as donald trump insists that they are, because today donald trump is raising money from those poor people who should know better but don't, by sending an email saying breaking from trump, biden's doj was authorized to shoot me. it has just been revealed that they were authorized to use deadly force for the despicable raid in mar-a-lago. to do the unthinkable. joe biden was locked and loaded, ready to take me out and put my family in danger. okay. none of the dangerously stupid people who send money to donald trump in response to that email know that the fbi scheduled the search warrant at that florida location when they knew for a fact that no one named trump was actually there. they did it in the summer when trump is thousands of miles away in cooler climates. in donald trump's case, in new jersey. donald t

donald trump's state of mind, and donald trump's probably not going to testify. if he does, of course he's not going to say exactly what the prosecution wants him to say. michael cohen is somebody who can testify directly about the state of mind of donald trump. and one theme that we can see throughout the testimony is that all that the prosecution is trying to do through the conversations with allen weisselberg, and hope hicks and others is to try to demonstrate that trump had his fingers all over this, that trump was very keenly aware of what was going on, that he was very interested in everything that was happening. and they're doing that with good reason because his name is donald trump, and ultimately, to convict him, the prosecution is going to have to show the jury that this was his scheme, that he was involved, that he was on top of this, not just that michael cohen and allen weisselberg were acting on their own. >> jeremy peters, jump in here for a second. isn't there an arc to all of this? oh, i'm sorry. >> why don't we bring the judge, and andrea, ask

former president donald trump found guilty on all counts. tonight, donald trump railing against the verdict. >> this was a disgrace. >> david: the jury, seven men and five women, quicking the former president on 34 felony counts of falsifying business records involving the hush money payment to stormy daniels. trump sitting stone-faced in court, shaking his head at times as the jury delivered its verdict. tonight, when trump will be sentenced. dan abrams is here on what trump potentially faces. what could the judge decide when it comes to sentencing? and what does this mean for the race for president? the reaction tonight inside trump's campaign. aaron katersky house the courthouse, mary bruce at the white house, rachel scott with reaction on the hill. >>> the other news, the major turn in the war in ukraine. the biden administration giving ukraine permission now to use american weapons to strike inside parts of russia. >>> back in the u.s. in the west tonight, the verdict in the trial of doomsday cult leader chad cabdaybell, accused of kilg

certainly, it is for donald trump. donald trump spent most of his day speaking to someone he has never met, the third broken life on display, keith davidson, the lawyer who even todd blanche had looked down on. keith davidson testimony revealed that he makes much, or most of his living as a bottom feeder in a cesspool with no law schools that has ever aspired to. it was keith davidson who negotiated the has many payment to stormy daniels to guarantee her silence about her, according to her, one brief sexual encounter with donald trump. that testimony negotiated the $130,000 deal, with documented, email records, text messages, and voice recordings. there is no reasonable doubt left that keith davidson, about keith davidson, negotiating that deal on behalf of stormy daniels with michael cohen. that's the essence of his testimony . that is why he is a witness, but, when your life goes so far off course that you find yourself negotiating hush money payments for adult film stars of presidential candidates so that you can he

the donald trump has been using for months. now the trials that he faces in court, he uses that as in the election platform as a campaign runway to make his arguments paint himself as a victim. and you know, he wraps obviously all of his political narrative around it. so this intersection of the law and the fact that somebody is actually using this as a campaign platform, how do you think about that as well? i mean, from the beginning of the trump presidency, he's been norm busting on ethics. there's really no place where he has to be followed, just generally accepted principles of ethics from using his hotel to make money. i haven't even the secret service stay there and charging them for it. all sorts of things where he has just a good, clearly government ethics up going to, you know, we're out the window. and mr. trump also throughout his entire career, wasn't very interested in ethics. he always wanted to see when he could get away with. and he's always gotten away with a great deal. and even now, as we see in these 2 other

it's interesting now that the jurors are focusing on donald trump's actions, donald trump's phone calldonald trump's meeting at trump tower. these were things where donald trump specifically was involved, and the trump tower meeting in 2015 really gets to the heart of the matter that the prosecution is trying to prove, which is that this conspiracy was to promote an election by unlawful means. it was about an election. not about covering up stories his wife didn't find out about, and it was about an election, cooked up by him. donald trump asked, what can you do for me, what can you do to help with the election. it gets to the heart of the charges but also donald trump's specific involvement as a member of this conspiracy. >> todd blanche and emil bove according to the reporters in the room. they're looking at the transcripts from all of the testimony during this trial. and they appear to be using a paper copy, not an electronic copy. a large binder, a minimum of six inches thick. that is a whole lot of testimony. tight transcript pages. why don't we read the michael cohen testimony re

i did the same thing for donald trump. apologizing and lying for donald trump.saw him back then lower tone, in the courtroom, when he was brually cross-examined in the attorney general's trial. he was more belligerent. >> you think he can keep his cool today? >> i'm confident, he will be under vicious attack. he was under vicious attack in the new york a.g.'s trial. he was under vicious attack before the house oversight committee. and i believe, he will disappoint the trump supporters when he gets cross-examined here and he will take the questions. >> it's good to talk to you, lenny. there's people that are skeptical about the michael cohen we're seeing on the stand right now. this is not the michael cohen that most of the previous witnesses who know him testified about. this is someone, by his own testimony, he says he attacked or threatened as many as 500 people on behalf of donald trump. just went through a long litany today, in all the ways he lied. he was the earlier and most unflagging supporters for donald trump for president. and then, we noted this a li

i think donald trump's already decided who he wants, and i think donald trump's looking at the transactionaltions involved here looking at a general election where it won't be enough to have someone who is just a sycophant. they've got to bring some extras. so you're looking at female potential candidates, and elise stefanik i've said for the longest time of all of these candidates potentially is the one who best aligns with what trump wants to get and needs to get out of this election. we'll see but i just think he's just punking the fellas, got them all dressing up looking alike, sounding alike, and he's going to go in a different direction. he will have used them and gotten out of them what he wanted and held them in check for the time he needs them to be held, and there they are looking silly. >> symone, let me quickly get your reaction to some other political news just in within the last couple of minutes. joe manchin has now registered as an independent. we only have about 30 seconds, but give me your response or your reaction. >> joe manchin is such a lovely man, i am not surprised by

donald trump is walk out right now. let's listen briefly to hear what he has to say. >> it's amazing actually. was amazing. everybody can say whatever they want. they can say whatever they want. but i'm not allowed to say anything about anybody. it's a disgrace, and you see it. the media sees it. and it's really very sad, if you look at the legal experts and the legal scholars, everyone would say this trial is a scam. it's something that should have never have happened. by the way, it could have happened seven years ago, bring it right during the election. nobody sees that. >> this is a frequent complaint of donald trump that the trial is a scam. he blames it on people that -- all of those things are completely untrue. having said that, what he did say at the beginning does speak to what happened in court right before he came out, and that is the whole issue, vaughn hillyard, of michael cohen, who is expected to take the stand as we said on monday, and the whole idea of the gag order. so todd blanche, who, as you know,

s case against donald trump. verizon executive called to enter crew shall evidence into the record. "new york times" points out their importance today was saying each of those witnesses has provided a link in the chain of custody of the 34 business documents at the heart of the case against donald trump. joining our coverage, former investigator for the january 6th select committee, tim heyby. i want your thoughts on proving the elements of the crime trump is charged with and i see an element to the witness testimony that you guys elicited from everyone around donald trump on that day, both that he knew he lost and knew that there wasn't any fraud. >> yeah. there's a lot that happens in criminal trials that's fairly mundane. you have these moments of great emotion, like the stormy daniels testimony, but then you have blocking and tackling that has to be done to lay a foundation, chain of custody for particular documents that matter, that particularly matters in a case that relies upon witnesses who have baggage,

is that when donald trump was in office, they thought donald trump was a clown, but steven mnuchin called them all the time, jared called them all the time, and when covid hit, they were all willing to play ball and say, come on in, let's figure out what companies do you own and how can we help? it is that trump had his doors open with guys saying, i want to play ball, because i want to do business with you forever and biden doesn't-- doesn't say that to them, but his actual policies are good for them. >> no doubt. listen, why is steve schwartzman of blackstone? he wants lower interest rates, what is donald trump keep saying? he will lower interest rates. >> and guess what? the president can control where interest rates are. >> well, he said he wants to take over the bed. he wants to be an autocrat, he wants to be a dictator. so think about all of the bankruptcies he has had in his history, and his business life over the last 30 years. >> please, bankrupt over six times, and as we are watching in this trial, his demand and practice, never pay any of his bills in full, they had better be 2

they made a decision that donald j. trump was guilty. and donald j. trump's reaction to the guilty verdict was, once again, he's already demeaned our election process by saying it is rigged and corrupt, and now he took on the rule of law. he took on the definition of justice itself by saying this verdict was corrupt and it was rigged, and it is a rigged system. well, if he was correct in both his assertions, that the electoral process is rigged and corrupt, and that the judicial process is rigged and corrupt, then there is no more america. there is no more america. lisa, i wonder if you, as an officer of the court, worry about the fact that trump and his followers who have seen ted cruz, who have seen marco rubio, are going to continue to do damage to the rule of law. >> absolutely. that's a huge concern of mine. i couldn't believe ted cruz's statement last night about the verdict, that this was an outrage and upset to the rule of law. i kept thinking, you were involved in this. he kept dragging your father into this. he had david pecker do mock-ups o

donald trump is the undisputed _ nominee? donald trump is the undisputed leader _ nominee?victed, isn't it, that's the thing.— that's the thing. it's a fair question _ that's the thing. it's a fair question to _ that's the thing. it's a fair question to ask. - that's the thing. it's a fair question to ask. of - that's the thing. it's a fair. question to ask. of course. that's the thing. it's a fair - question to ask. of course. the question to ask. of course. the voters had decided, you know, i think there is no possibility they are going to rerun the primary. most of the ballots that were cast in the republican primary happened after this indictment had been handed down when republicans knew that he very well could be convicted of a crime, and yet it seemed to help his popularity in the republican primary. so if anything, these criminal accusations are helpful for trump with his base, even though they do obviously repel democratic voters and potentially turn off independence. the voters and potentially turn off independence.— independence. the question sometimes _ independ

in that chronological flow over 11 years, his story of lying for donald trump to protect donald trump made since as his role as donald trump's personal lawyer and fixer. lying for donald trump is what got michael cohen indicted. when you take michael cohen's lying out of order, as todd blanche did, it is a much messier story and harder to follow. the incentives for lying are deliberately left out in the flow of questioning that todd blanche chose. the problem for todd blanche during at least four hours of questioning today is that it was covering ground already covered by the district attorney. so every lie that todd blanche was underlining to the jury had already been revealed to them in the district attorney's direct questioning. about five minutes of that questioning, maybe as much as 10 by todd blanche, right before the lunch break today, paid off in the way that every criminal defense lawyer is hoping cross-examination questions will pay off. todd blanche pointed michael cohen to a phone call logs that the district attorney used to identify a phone call between michael cohen's ph

alan weisselberg was willing to go to jail for donald trump because most likely, donald trump is taking care of him. >> he has a severodonetsk renders agreement. >> i will sit in jail for this period of time. he made that deal with donald trump. donald trump did not do that with michael cohen and alas, michael cohen. >> you raise the point. and i think it is important. that he has an insurance policy around him in the form of strong men and he didn't in this event. and that blanche interview on another cable news station is notable. because trump is involved in his defense intimately and it was not great defense. and i'm not a lawyer, but this position they adopted. trump never slept with stormy daniels. access hollywood wasn't a doomsday event. every campaign is a conspiracy. donald trump is innocent. they just took every argument to the nth degree. all they had to do was prove reasonable doubt. but it was very clear that trump was trying to litigate his sins in the court of public opinion. and that infiltrated their strategy as a defense team to little avail. >> that highlights the di

how was donald trump today?a few things when i think about the morning and his reactions. he was more alert during the gag order part, and at one point when there was a tweet from michael cohen that was showed to the court, he actually gestured to it as if maybe he wanted to say something. for the most part, his eyes have been closed. he's listening. you can see his eyes will be closed. he'll make a comment to his lawyer immediately. he could be -- he's listening, and i also think -- you know, when i think about whey we care about donald trump and what he's doing, i think it's important because the jury is going to be watching him. they're going to see he has his eyes closed. but the other thing is there's severe consequences to him if he acts out in court. it could be that he's trying to keep a very straight face at this point. it's one thing to get fined a thousand dollars because you're making a post on your social media platform. it's another thing to act out in front of the jury and risk incarceration. >> a

for donald trump.t's the story that the jury has of now. getting up there, cross-examination and thinking you can score points that michael cohen lied, you can have get away from there. you have to pick individual lies and use that lie as the lever that separates the jury from accepting the rest of michael cohen's testimony. >> arguably, by doing that, getting under michael cohen's skin, is there anything you have seen in his testimony? and this is friendly questioning. he's going to face a different situation with todd blanche. but any emotions and impatience? anything that would say to you tiredness, that would say to you, that could be an opening for todd blanche and a problem for michael cohen and the prosecution? >> absolutely not. we've all seen those emotions in michael cohen, in the other appearances he's done. in his podcast that he talked about today. and on television. we've seen that. we've seen that wild, undisciplined side of michael cohen. we say, we've seen a different michael cohen on

way ahead of donald trump. one of the ways she so pointlessly stretched out this cross-examination this morning. >> absolutely. and that was probably the kindness word that stormy daniels said in response. i don't remember. maybe her memory just faltered. there was a moment explaining jokes to a lawyer and the thing that struck out at me was how funny and witty and disarming stormy daniels was and that was a weapon she used to defend herself in cross-examination. because there was just a stark contrast. a stark difference between the stormy daniels that took the stand on tuesday. she was nervous. racing through her testimony. and had to be reminded something like five times to slow down for the court stenographer and the confident witty person on the stand engineering on the spot as if she was screen written by oscar wilde. someone involved in an elaborate shake down. that use of humor as a weapon was effective on the jury. >> we will squeeze in a quick break and be right back. break and be right back. and pr,

other than donald j. trump? that's right. i mean, the only thing you might think about doing is to call someone who can establish that even though he was a micromanager and manage his business so closely in those first months of the presidency with everything that was going on, it wasn't quite i liked that, but they're actually getting those pieces from people like madeleine westerhout and other people who can say how chaotic it was. so honestly, i think they probably won't call anyone. >> i want to know what happens today if michael cohen testifies on monday, what happens today. >> that's the question i mean, i know that's why i thought they might call him today. i mean, who else could they put on? i mean, another records type person they got to save some of that for after michael cohen to put that little cushion. >> but then i imagined, again, if you're going by my hero already, not saying it's right. but you're trying ways always going on with them and trying to narrow that part which depends on michael cohen, is there any

if you're familiar with donald trump's signatures, those are checks that were signed by donald trump himself after an explanation about the difference between a trust, which was an account for the company, and a, essentially, private account for donald trump. well, mcconney detailed how he kept notes and bank statements related to cohen stored in a locked door and how the hush money checks had to be sent to the white house for donald trump to sign. i want to bring in nbc's vaughn hillyard outside the courthouse. joyce vance is a university of alabama law professor. tristan snell is with me, author of "taking down trump 12 rules for prosecuting donald trump by someone who did it successfully." charles coleman is here, civil rights attorney, former brooklyn prosecutor, msnbc legal analyst, and republican strategist and msnbc political analyst, susan del percio. in just a minute, charles, i'm going to get to the difference between, let's say all the salacious details about how catch and kill works, a glamorous witness, arguably in hope hicks. those are the things we saw last week. this