pastor donte hickman joins me now. thank you for being with us.en you got there the next morning -- you were there that night. but when you saw it in the daylight, still smoldering, you and i met that day, there was still smoke coming up. what went through your mind when you saw that? >> i was devastated. it was a surreal moment for me. i couldn't believe that it all had come down to rubble and ashes. >> you've been working, for, what, six years to build that? >> actually, eight years, envisioning, seeking funding, seeking partners that would invest in it, acquiring the property, cutting through the red tape. and finally, we were seeing our vision come into fruition. >> and do you -- i mean, even the night it happened, you were on our broadcast, and you were talking about rebuilding. you were talking about even in the depths of did he say pare, you had not given up hope completing this. >> we had been overcoming obstacles all the way for this entire eight years. it started off as a concept in a small row house, and is morphed into a 4,000 square f