doug jones joins me now. doug jones, welcome back to the show. you said there is compelling evidence, that trump committed crimes against united states. can he be charged with a crime in your view? if not multiple crimes, and which ones? >> i've also said, you did not follow the rest of that quote. i also said while there is compelling evidence about the january 6th -- i think everybody has to understand the difference between the two forms. it's a legislative body that can connect the dots, using depositions, using hearsay, any number of things. it's not the same. they can tell the story, they can present the compelling evidence. for the department of justice, that is not the same as being able to have a testimony, that can be used in a court of law. or defense lawyers, and defendants have the right to cross examine. there is compelling evidence, it's amazing the dust that were connected by this january six committee. i'm just agreeing with congressman -- there is no evidence that higher ups are not being looked at. we've seen recently this easi

doug jones, barbara come stack, michelle cottle are with me. extraordinary, mitt romney in that op said. senator jones, he says joe biden is a good man but everyone's unhappy. the country is going the wrong direction. people are unhappy for a lot of different reasons. but it's a pretty universal feeling. you're very close to joe biden. i know that you are basically an eye term supporter of his. but some of these quotes are pretty tough against him. we had one democrat told cnn that the presidency is rudderless. concerns about basic management in the white house. and quite frankly that potentially opens up a path for donald trump to return. >> sure. >> how do you prevent that? >> well, i don't know if you can. but i will tell democrats, i'm tired of listening to that kind of crap. i mean, look -- >> how do we fix it? >> some people need to understand, at least in the democratic party, that if they want to have any success in the midterms, if they want to have any success in 2024, this president has got to have some success. and he has had some s

judy: and doug jones, let's turn now to these hearings. you think the committee has accomplished so far? mr. jones: i think they have gone far above their expectations. in the eyes of the american people. they have really put together a compelling story, and factually accurate, about what happened before, during, and after january 6. they have put together -- and they have done it not in a partisan way. i know there are a lot of people who think this was all about getting donald trump. it was not. it was about democracy and getting to the truth of what happened on january 6 and how it was planned, what happened during that day, and what is going on even today as we speak. i think they have done a remarkable job of connecting all the dots. and really, all of those dots lead back to donald trump in some form or another. judy: barbara comstock, the committee was about describing president trump's role, former president trump's role in all this. but in the end, if the people who support him are not watching these hearings, which they say they a

former democratic united states senator from alabama, doug jones. and former replican u.s. presentative from virginia, barbara comstock. welcome to the program to both of you. before i ask you about last night's hearing, let me ask you about today's news, senator jones, that steve bannon was found guilty by a federal jury of contempt of congress for refusing to answer questions by -- from the january 6 committee. what is the significance of that? >> thank you for having me, judy. i appreciate it. this jury struck a blow for democracy. they struck a blow for truth and accountability. they struck a blow for the institutions of government, which have been under attack in this country at the last couple years, and under attack by steve annan. the fact that bannon was found guilty of flaunting the subpoena sends a significant message to a lot of people. bannon the other day outside the courtroom challenged bennie thompson, said he was gutless. refused to testify under oath in his criminal trial. but bannon is the gutless one. he was gutless when he refused to testify under oath,

we've got doug jones and doug heye with me.ng in the white house economics reporter for the "washington post." we're all going to have a wimbledon stare at you right now as we look to you to give us the expertise. look, tomato/tomato. they're saying it's not a recession, but is that technical definition, does that really ring true for people? is it true we're not really in one? or are we talking about semantics? >> so, the white house is correct that at some level two negative levels of gdp growth does not necessarily mean we are in a recession. looks at a range of sta tistics many of which are positive, unemployment, which the president alluded to. so much of the economy, so much of the policy, is psychological in nature. we see someone else in our block, maybe the two dougs pulling back invs.ment, pulling back spending. maybe that affect what is we do. over the next few months, what is very scary is the gains we've made coming out of covid could go backwards. we had a bad sign of that today. investment, we saw a big decline o

was it doug jones who said it? he's absolutely right. >> doug jones, doug heye, the two dougs, they call themselves douggy fresh, who are sitting behind the cameras right now. it is interesting to me, as somebody who would like to think that if you are asking for the opportunity to lead, then you at least have the wherewithal and confidence and integrity to say, i will tell it like it is. i would hope and, again, i recognize what i am saying, you're probably trickling and going that is not how washington, d. c. works, baby girl. i am saying, that's how it should work and don't call me, baby girl. >> you call yourself that. >> that's how this works. i can call myself that. [laughs] >> but you can't! >> you are right, that is how it should work. that does not happened. until we see some evidence, i will believe it until i see it, how about that? i will believe it when i see it. i keep hearing a lot of people saying, things are changing, we will back away. we will see. the midterms are coming up, and we will have more

back with me now, doug jones, shan wu, and doug heye.tty unique in terms of all the sort of states that have had discussions around the lies, around the election. georgia didn't seem to be buying it when it came to, obviously, purdue versus kemp. kemp did not have that angle. is this an example of that being the trump fatigue that mick mulvaney was talking about? the idea of look, he sort of cleared the way for others because they aren't buying it anymore. they don't to deal with it. >> we see when donald trump goes all in, it guarantees him about a third of the vote. the rest of it is up to those candidates, and what you had was a popular governor who took on trump on one thing, but otherwise, was very firmly in line with, by and large, trump's policies, against someone who not only lost their senate race, who donald trump called a loser, but someone who ran a terrible campaign and lost two years earlier. republicans are trying to inch away from donald trump. they can't run from, but when you hear on capitol hill, privately, sometimes i

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and former democratic senator doug jones of alabama. the supreme court has sparked by overturning roe v. wade. this week, judges in florida and kentucky blocked abortion bans from taking effect. but supporters of abortion rights face an uphill climb with bans and restrictions on their way in at least 22 states. do you think there are still pathways to protect abortion rights in the courts or should the focus shift to legislation? >> i think there are very few, thanks for having me this sunday afternoon, before the 4th, i think there's very few legal avenues, some of these states are going to go too far. especially when they're talking about banning travel, where they get into contraception, and those are going to be the main legal battles to be fought. there is still a lot of legal battles out there, but the fundamental right is going to be left to the states and i think that we've got to look at trying to figure out how to do this on a federal legislative level. and otherwise, we're going to have chaos. you know, justice alito's opinion

you've got doug jones, doug, hi there with me.use economic reporter for the washington post. we are all going to have a wimbledon start to right now, as you all look to give us the expertise. because look, tomato, tomato. they're saying it's not a recession but does that technical decision, that's decided by eight economists in the world in the country, does that really ring true for people? is it true we are not really anyone? or, are we talking about semantics? >> so, the right house is correct that at some level to a negative quarter of gdp it is both not necessarily meeting that we're in a recession, which to which they declared these things. he looks at a range of statistics. many of which is still positive and, the president alluded. two but to your fundamental, point so much of the economy, so much of that kind of a policy of psychological and nature. we see someone else on our, block maybe the two dogs pulling back investment, pulling back spending. and that affects what we do. and, so over the next few months, what is ver

let's ask a member of the -- house congressman ro khanna joins me along with former senator doug joneslad you are here, thank you for staying gentlemen. and welcome to the program congressman khanna. wondering what you know about the steal? should there be enthusiasm behind it? this is over 300 billion dollars of common investment. the estimates are that there -- >> this is over 300 billion dollars of climate investment. the estimates are it would have 40% reduction of co2 emissions. it's going to lower prescription drug prices. it's gonna have a tax filing on corporations not being dax. i haven't seen all the details. but it is significant progress. is it what i would've wanted? no, i would have written more. but it is much, much better than anything that is come before. and i give senator schumer and senator manchin credit. >> why the about face? it's a good direction, for your purposes. but why do you think his mind was changed? what was the cause? >> i have been on the outs with some saying, let's keep negotiating with senator manchin. the reason i have said that is that he has sai

we've got doug jones, the former u.s. senator and former u.s., and miles taylor, former chief of staff to the homeland security secretary during the trump administration. miles, you had a strong reaction when we were listening to the mulvaney interview when he said he saw nothing illegal or immoral in his time in the west wing. true or no? >> let me say a couple things. one, i do think it's important that mick and people like mick are starting to speak up. and that shows you cassidy hutchinson testimony is making people scared. there was no one in mick's job during the trump administration who did not see him do things that were immoral, unethical, or try to do things that were illegal and unconstitutional. i sat there in rooms when mick was there when the president wanted to do things. did he do them? no. he was talked out of them. >> do you have examples? >> absolutely. mick was there for meetings where the president wanted to illegally and unconstitutional seal the entire border even though the law said you have to allow asylum seekers to com

attorney for alabama, doug jones. he's a distinguished senior, fellow at the center for american progress. here with me on set is congressional reporter, for the guardian, hugo lowell. let me start with you. ruth marcus writes today, that she now believes attorney general, merrick garland, should bring charges against donald trump, because quote, failing to bring them, would be more damaging to the nation, then turning a blind eye to this effort, to subvert democracy, and prevent the peaceful transfer of power. do you agree? >> i think that sentiment is growing, as committees are making a compelling case, jonathan thanks for having me this morning. ruth, also qualify that. you need evidence that needs to be admissible in court. what we are seeing in the january six committee, it's a road map. this is our -- like they would want to be in front of a grand jury. i think there is still work to do. i think the evidence, is growing more and more compelling. there is a lot of issues, i think the justice department has to tak

. >> laura: former alabama -- i underline former -- democratic senator doug jones has a different take on liz. >> she would not go outside to lose her donald trump is a loser. i agree, i think she's got a future. i'm just not so sure it's in 2022 or 2024. >> laura: open borders, pro-china trade, not concerned about energy prices and spending all of your time attacking the tens of millions of people who voted for donald trump, that's the future of the republican party apparently according to the democrats. >> and according to liz cheney, she's a globalist. that's what he's saying. the only reason democrats like her is because she's attacking republicans. you have to know you are on the wrong track in terms of our platform, philosophy, and values when you're being praised by democrats because democrats do not align with us especially right now on pretty much anything related to this country. we've got the most progressive and radical democrat party in the history of the united states, it's been infiltrated by socialists at the very top of the heap. if anyone was praising liz cheney is te

i want to bring in former republican congresswomen, and doug jones. while, much quieter -- hello, charlie. what does this say to you. that trump called this lower level white house staffer himself? >> well it tells me that the former president was directly involved, with trying to contact a witness. and he, from day one. he has been far too involved with this whole insurrection business. he was directly making phone calls to people. in georgia, we saw, we talk about that many times. calling brad raffensperger. he was directly involved with attempts to overturn this election, now he appears to be attempting to influence the testimony of witnesses. again, i don't know with the doj is going to do. boy this really smells to high heaven! >> i'm glad you said that, that's a reaction for most people. we said, there we go charlie what do you think? people are like -- man, again! this guy! like what's! >> i don't -- look, i just know, the basic smell test. anybody else has done this sort of thing. i guarantee, to the department of justice would be crawling up

encouraging, or at least hopeful, is that alabama special election that could put more and more against doug jonesh you have i think, a similarly -- independent of the incredible reporting for the washington post that shows that he alleged multiple times to have preyed on underage women, even independent of that, a guy who just had no business in the u. s. senate, versus someone who had a remarkable sort of career and record on the other side -- and in the end, even in the state of alabama, that proved to be too much. it actually went too far. so, it's not like the rubber band can stretch forever. the question now, in georgia is, how far can a stretch and that's what we will be watching. jelani cobb, thank you very much. >> thank you. much thank you very much. >> thank you. >>> that is all in on this tuesday night. msnbc prime starts right now. good evening. >> e hey, good evening to you, chris.ni thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. you probably won't hear him talk this way again, but i want to play this for you. this was what the top house republican kevin mccarthy said on live televi

. >>> i want to bring in former republican congressman charlie dent and doug jones. good evening. wow, much quieter where you guys are. hello. charlie, what does it say to you trump called this lower level white house staffer himself? >> well, it tells me that the former president was directly involved with trying to contact the witness, and that he from day one, he has been far too involved with this whole insurrection business. i mean, he was directly making phone calls to people, you know, in georgia we saw him talk about that many times, you know, calling brad raffensperger. he was directly involved with attempts to overturn this election, and now he appears to be attempting to, you know, influence the testimony of witnesses. and, again, i don't know what the doj is going to do, but, boy, this really smells to high heaven that he is -- >> i'm glad you said that because that's a reaction from most people. we sit here and go, charlie, what do you think, and people are like, man, again with this guy. this guy, what? >> i don't -- look, i just use the basic smell test. has anybody

so, let's hear from our experts here at the panel today, a former democratic senator doug jones, formerl elliott williams, and editor and chief of the dispatch, jonah goldberg. there's a lot of news on the january 6th front. the fact that mike pompeo might go before the committee and they're trying to work with them to figure out a good time, that's big news. that's a cabinet member, for goodness sakes. that's huge. >> that's really big. i think most people thought that they would end the hearing last week, prime time, big show, stunning testimony. but they've still got work to do, and they're clearly doing it. as we've talked about before, in these kind of investigations, you know, one hearing leads to another because you've got more witnesses who feel comfortable or compelled to come forward. and it's interesting we may see higher levels folks coming down. >> and the bannon conviction i think has put fire under folks to say, oh, this is real. you can't really thumb your nose, although mark meadows, right, and dan scavino, they were not prosecuted. what's your thought? >> the thing is,

we have so much to break down with our panel we have doug jones former u.s.oreman u.s. at trinity. and miles taylor the former chief of staff to the secretary during the trump administration. miles, you had a pretty strong reaction when we were listening to the mulvaney interview here together where he said that he and i am paraphrasing so nothing illegal or immoral in his time in the west wing. yes or no, true or not? >> let me say a couple things, one i do think it is important that mick and people like mick are speaking up and that is cassidy hutchinson and making people scared, it is good that he is out there however i would add that there is no one , no one that was in mick's job who did not see him do things that were immoral, unethical, or tried to do things that were illegal or unconstitutional. i sat in rooms when the president wanted to do things that were illegal, did he do them, no, but this was his daily. for instance mick was there for meetings where the president wanted to illegally and unconstitutionally seal the entire border. even though the

mike madrid is the cofounder of the lincoln project and doug jones is a former democratic senator from alabama. welcome to each of you. mike, you are here closest to the center of trouble. let me start with you. the subpoena for the secret service. that marks the first time the committee has subpoenaed any executive branch agency. one of the potential outcomes of that? >> broader than the potential outcomes is the fact that you just characterized it well. it's circling. the circle is getting smaller. it's tough for people that are watching this to realize that work is happening in a short amount time. you're seeing a shift in the electorate. americans are starting to realize that there is a lot of here here and we are keeping the evidence rolling out. i think it could be a critical piece of. that >> elie, thank you here is an interesting part of this, the committee will take a deep dive into trump's actions during the riot. it is the leading theory that we know of. what do you think they need to establish really to get this sucker home? to bring it home, to make that closing argument t

now that former alabama and i underline former harriotte democrat senator doug jones. well,-- he has a different take on liz. >> she would not go out as a loser. donald trump is a loser. she could parlay that . i think i agree. think i think she's got a future. i'm just not so sure that it's in twenty twenty two or 2020 four. >> harriet open borders pro-china trade, not concerned about energy prices and spending all of your time attacking the tens of millions of people m who voted for donald trump . that's the future of the republican party, apparently, according to the democratsar in according to liz cheney, she's a globalist. that's what he's saying is she's a globalist. and the only reason democrats like her is because she's attacking republicans. you havehe to know that you're on the wrong track in terms of our platform, our philosophy, our values. when you're being praised by democrats because democrats do not align with us , especially right now on pretty much anything relatedrett to this country. we've got the most progressive and radical democrat party in the h

there is doug jones, who is also up for attorney general, he has said to ask political out that there'sat we have all seen and continues to mount and some things that are admissible in court. so, with the justice department is having a sit three right now is even though we all heard which cast the hutchins said on tuesday and what we heard from former doj officials and republicans around the country about what donald trump was doing to overturn the will of the people, what can they actually prove in court? that is the question the doj has to wrestle with. if you're doing, this oh going against the former sitting president, former president, never happened in this country, it has to be completely airtight. mayor garland who was chosen by barack obama to be on the supreme court, he was chosen that because he was a political. he is bringing that same nature to his job as attorney general. he is not going to do it unless he is sure that he is going to win. i think that is something that this doj and the rest of us can keep in mind, should be keeping in mind. >> i think you are exactly right

doug mastriano. joining me now is michael steele, former chairman of the rnc and host of the michael steele podcast and robert joneseligion institute. author of "white too long." i'm going to read you to you. you wrote this about the curious history of judeo christian can teach us about defeating white christian nationalists today. only 30% of americans agree that god intended america to be a new promise land where european christians could have a society that could be an example to the rest of the world, that number rises to dangerous levels including majorities of republicans, 53% and 52% white protestants. they are four times as likely to disagree that true americans may have to resort to violence to save the country. how do we get out of it if the republican party is completely overtaken by this? >> well, the first thing i should say, i think it's very important that you've included the words white christian nationalism altogether. the three interlocking pieces is the threat before us. somebody who studied this movement, somebody who grew up myself white and christian in the deep south as part of the evangelica

doug loose ader fox news. stocks here because things started off strong, but look at where we are now. dow jones is underwater by about one quarter of 1% after a great start this morning, right when that bell rang. it's losing 70 plus points right now, this pattern is exactly the same as what's happening over on the s and p, which is now down by almost one half of 1% similar pattern again on nasdaq, down by about just as much more stable in the stock market is right now, rosemary oroczo is here with more on that rosemary oroczo along the coast . temperatures remain in the sixties. not going to see a whole lot of change as we go through the next couple of days, we do have one subtle change going on, and i'll show you that here in just a moment. how about a live look outside our doors? sfo their blue skies and a little bit of cloud cover there just up against the hills, clouds and fog inside the bay along the coast. half moon bay right now, two degrees warmer than yesterday at this timing, while nevado is four degrees cooler oakland up by four degrees, so most of us within a few degrees of where w

such as -- and doug was, they have all tiptoed through this house so in a way of speaking i see it as a responsibility of mine to work with that energy. it is my life. truck in 1968 jones one of the founders of the chicago artist collective. or, the african commune. and now at the ica, the decades of work and textiles he produced according to the aesthetic principles fills this retrospective. >> that manifesto, that drove our work, is the evolution of the african-american people and to project positive images and works that reflect the beauty and the majesty of african people. >> they asked themselves the question, what is the role of the visual artist as part of the civil rights movement. >> reporter: jeffrey is the curator of the show and says that there were by jones henderson has been in dialogue with the community, reflecting the culture counseling which, and music. >> they would use music in a particular way. lyrics from black music like stevie wonder. at other times, an individual work that is dedicated to a body of work by a musician. so, it has various iterations but there is a sense of rhythm and musicality. >> reporter: jones henderson study did textile weav