dr. curtis are you still there? okay. cj i want to ask you one more question, how are the passengers on the plane handling the situation? is all calm? >> yeah, well, everyone is on their phone. but it is calm. >> and thousands of cell phone pictures, i take it are being taken? >> oh, absolutely. everyone is up loading videos. but we're all calm now. >> and dr. curtis, what should we expect now? you our transportation expert. what is the tsa doing? >> it's unclear what the tsa has been instructed to do, because i haven't been able to get anything official coming out of them. but the faa has instituted a ground stop meaning any aircraft flying to los angeles that have not taken off yet should stay on the ground. there are several airports around the los angeles area. so far lax is the only one that has a ground stop in effect. and more locally according to google traffic indicators, there is very, very heavy traffic, possibly stopped traffic going into the airport, but this is a very good sign, the roads leading out of the

dr. todd curtis. are you there? >> yes, i am. >> can you tell us what is happening right now? what type of security measures are in place, especially when you are talking about an airport the size of lax and thousands of customers, and that may be an understatement. >> lax is a unique airport. it's not only a major airport, it's a very high profile airport which has had events in the past like this. so this is probably something the los angeles police and airport police have dealt with. and one key thing to think about right now is when it comes to securing the airport, there are multiple levels of security at the airport. tsa, which was the focus of the shooting actually is not a law enforcement organization, and they don't have weapons training or defensive weaponry to protect themselves. >> what are they told to do if there is a gunman. >> in general they defer to the law enforcement and other security personnel at lax. very likely you are going to have law enforcement there, especially in an emergency situation like this, and there may be additional resources there because

dr. curtis is that what you are seeing? >> that's what i am seeing as well.nd i agree it appears to be two separate people that are injured. one thing i would like to add is that one concern for a lot of passengers might be how is it possible that someone can bring a gun to an airport. point of fact, although there are very strict rules about bringing weapons beyond the security screener, the laws of the local area are ones that are relevant outside of the secure area. for example, if you are checking in luggage, you can of course bring that to the airport. of course it should be unloaded, but you could have at any given time many people near the terminal in the ticketing area, who could have legally loaded weapons on them. so the potential for someone to misuse weaponry can happen at every airport in the country, unfortunately it's very rare when someone does something evil with a weapon. >> we also have michael doern on the phone. he has done consulting for airport security. we now have those images, images that appear to show two people wounded both appear

dr. curtis asked him. three months. so dr. rtis thought about that for a little bit, and then he said to him, well, what size shoe do you wear? size 9. dr. curtis told me he thought about all the things he had to do, all the forms he had to write, and then he just got in his car and went over to walmart and bought a pair of size 9 running shoes for $16.99, and now he was coming back to put them on the patient himself and write the order of discharge. and as i watched him hurry off, i realized he reminded me of an after prison m -- aphorism i'd always loved but had never understood, the secret this the care of the patient is in caring for the patient. now be, i'd always thought that meant caring about the patient, you know? loving the patient or at least liking them. but when i watched dr. curtis rush off to put shoes on a patient he barely knew, i thought there must be more to it than that. so i looked it up, and i found it in a talk by with dr. francis peabody to the graduating medical class of harvard in 1927. turned out that

dr. curtis, there will be plenty of time for second guessing and iff iffy if eventse there will be plenty of time for second guessing. what you hear so far does this appear to be a situation that is being held by the book. >> i would say so. what do you do when you have an attack. there was no obvious throat thrt going on. there was no heightened threat level. it was just a typical day at los angeles airport. and someone pulls out a bag and starts shooing. shoo -- shooting. the law enforcement people there took control of the situation and not only neutralized the gunman but did their best to to make sure that the people were safe. an for thand for the most part e passengers under control until they could determine whether they had information if they were under threat. some guests earlier took trust d frustration with the time it took to clear everyone. that is what happens su subsequt to something like this happening at an airport. >> i want to go back to maria innes ferria. what is the latest? >> we are seeing what josh has been tweeting. and he has been tweeting inside of bradly inter

dr. curtis, there will be plenty of time for second guessing and iff iffy if eventse there will be plenty of time for second guessing. what you hear so far does this appear to be a situation that is being held by the book. >> i would say so. what do you do when you have an attack. there was no obvious throat thrt going on. there was no heightened threat level. it was just a typical day at los angeles airport. and someone pulls out a bag and starts shooing. shoo -- shooting. the law enforcement people there took control of the situation and not only neutralized the gunman but did their best to to make sure that the people were safe. an for thand for the most part e passengers under control until they could determine whether they had information if they were under threat. some guests earlier took trust had frustration with the time it took to clear everyone. that is what happens sub subsequent to something like this happening at an airport. >> i want to go back to maria innes ferria. what is the latest? >> we are seeing what josh has been tweeting. and he has been tweeting inside of bradly

dr. curtis. good to talk to you, will you walk through what we've witnessed from l.a.x. and how this unfolded, and the response from law enforcement, the response from those who are responsible for that airport and the surroundings. how did it all play out? >> well, on the one hand one of the things that played out here one of the kinds of nightmare scenarios that passengers law enforcement and tsa think that is an attack by a person who is apparently at least acting alone. there is no warning. there is no group. there is no history of this sort of thing happening. frankly, anyone who is thinking that this sort of attack has a wealth of opportunity because there are hundreds of airports around this country. all of them has to be prepared for something like this. it happened to be at l.a.x. and you would think that this is an airport with tremendous capability, tremendous firepow firepower, tremendous police force. it could have happened at a smaller airport, but at the same time i think the same thing would have happened, a smaller airport would have had police arrive, a

dr. todd curtis, al jazeera transportation contributor, thank you very much. i'm sure we'll call on you again. >> thanks for having me. >> there is a new leader of the pakistan taliban who replaces masood who was killedl killed be attack. >> security forces have been put on red alert. on an ordinary day this street would be brimming with people. but today you can see there are very few people out on the street. very few vehicles. that is because there are apprehensions that there may now be a wave of punitive reprisal attacks by the taliban in pakistan for their leader hakimul lah mehsud who was killed in a drone strike. so nervousness in major cities. we're also told that security forces have been beefed up in their positions, and in some areas the military has taken over the force from the police. and of course, the pakistani public in general is bracing for a fresh wave of attacks. >> battle at the board turkish police fire tear gas at a crowd of demonstrators. the wall is meant to stop people from crossing the border illegal. the residents accuse the gover

political change will continue this conversation more of tonight's conversations with great minds with dr curtis r.c. after the break. i got a quote for you. it's pretty tough to. say where it's about story. let's give this guy like you would smear that guy stead of working for the people politicians the mainstream media were pretty much over bridegrooms vision. on a piece. of it but rather it was. a. it was a. very hard to take it once again so there is a lot that you have had sex with her thick hair. play let's play. limit the amount of play. plenty. of. and welcome back to conversations of great minds i'm speaking with dr trita parsi founder and president of the national arena american council on syria is in the news this week all this. year and the last few years in a big way. around has been one of the countries that has been most outspoken in opposing the use of poison gas there's a back story. curious your thoughts on. the p.t.s.d. perhaps that iran's national psyche as a consequence of saddam hussein using poison gas that was probably supplied by the u.s. certainly targeted by u.s. strik

dr. curtis the about the charts he had to do and the forms he had to right then got in his car went to wal-mart bought a size nine ready to $60.99 now coming back to put them on the patient to right the order of discharge. as i watched him i realized he reminded me of what i always loved but had never understood. the secret of the care of the patient is caring for that patient. loving them or at least liking them. i thought there must be more to it i found in a talk to the medical class of harvard in 1927. it turns out what dr. peabody really meant was not that the secret was carrying about the patient but for the patient which he said meant doing the of little personal thing this. was a that the most efficient way for doctors to take care of patients but that is what created the personal relationship between doctor and patient that secret is a healing. said is very ironic because right around this time laguna honda was discovered by health care efficiency experts favor coming to the hospital to find any efficiencies. i am sure if they knew about the issues they would have thought it very ineff

dr. todd curtis spoke to us about these issues. >> this is someone who attacked tsa who is set up to do a variety of things but they were not set up with law enforcement power. however there is a layer of security at i remember which includes police and law enforcement support. that sort was very much evident at los angeles. that part of the system, having law enforcement protecting the security check point areas did actually work. they were able to take down this person. >> so when you say that, it sounds like you're saying this actually could have been a lot worse? >> certainly. from all appearances it looks like this was a lone lone persot someone with a coordinated group. they could have easily overwhelmed any checkpoint in this country. but the fact of the matter there is more than one way to protect the airport and the aircraft and to protect the people in that airport. certainly if this person had an intent to randomly kill passengers they don't have to go beyond the checkpoint. there are thousands of people in the non-secure area of the lax who would have been easy targets. but th

dr. todd curtis spoke to us about these issues. >> reporter: this was an unusual attack. it was not a passenger trying to come through normally and sneaking a gun through. this is someone who attacked the security checkpoint as part of his strategy. and tsa was set up to do a variety of things. what they weren't set up to do was to be an armed police officer. they don't have law enforcement powers. they don't have law enforcement options such as carrying weapons with them. however, there is a layer of defense at every airport that includes police and other levels of support. and that support was evident in los angeles. that part of the system that is having law enforcement protecting the security checkpoint areas did actually work. >> so when you say that, it sounds like you're saying that this actually could have been a lot worse. >> certainly. from all appearances it looks like this was a lone person, not someone who had a coordinated plan with several other people. certainly if you had a group of people who were armed the way this person was, they could ea easily overw

dr. todd curtis, now we want to return to the philopenas where that massive effort is now underway to getid to the people. relief workers are now encountering difficulties to get supplies to those that need them the most. setting in as survivors wait for help. more from northern sea bourn. a cry for help from the children. landed in the northern part of the island. most managed to survive, but many are left with nothing. we ran to the mountains and we are still staying in a little hut used to dry sugar cane. with they have yet to receive any aid. although many people managed to survive, they also badly need water and food. mary ann and her husband were just burying their mother when the storm hit. hungry and has been drinking on condensed milk for five days. >> even if we get a little bit of help, we would be so grateful, all of us here would share it. the few organizations and volunteered have already reached here. >> the problem with the water and the sanitation, and of course now the most pressing also shelter. because of the constant drain, and they have no homes to go back to. >> onl

dr. curtis the about the charts he had to do and the forms he had to right then got in his car went to wal-mart size nine ready to $60.99 now coming back to put them on the patient to right the order of discharge. as i watched him i realized he reminded me of what i always loved but had never understood. the secret of the care of the patient is caring for that patient. loving them or at least liking them. i thought there must be more to it i found in a talk to the medical class of harvard in 1927. it turns out what dr. peabody really meant was not that the secret was carrying about the patient but for the patient which he said meant doing the of little personal thing this. was a that the most efficient way for doctors to take care of patients but that is what created the personal relationship between doctor and patient that secret is a healing. said is very ironic because right around this time laguna honda was discovered by health care efficiency experts favor coming to the hospital to find any efficiencies. i am sure if they knew about the issues they would have thought it very inefficient an

dr. >> tha you. >> mhele: let's turn to curtis lofton. you held the cowboys to under 200 yards of total offense.had a rougweek last week. we came and everyone said, your job. once we do our job, we'll be a great defense. that's what everybody did today. you ow, we stopped the run. got pressure othe quarterback and didn't let the big play beat us today. >> michele: everyone knows rob ryan was let go by the cowboys last year. how much extraotivation was there toet this one for him? >> well, rob treated ilike any her week. as players, wanted to get th for rob. we're so glad we got him. we love hi we wanted to get the win. >> mhele: congratulations on the effort. >> thank you. >> lets's welcome in tony dungy from new yk. ny, after tonight's sult, no team in the nfeast has a winning record, 5-5, is good for the top spot, cowboys an eagles. but everne is within a game and a ha of each other. who do you see uimately u murjing from the division? >> b, i still think dall has the most talent any team in the division. but nobody is complete team. there are flaws everhere. philelphia right now the playedwo

curtis, north richmond hills, bill, the tell me university of colorado officialser were monitoring underage drinking at that campus party that went viral. apparently they were not. dreach at the university and took offense to your characterization. students might play hard, but they work hard, too. tim o'hara, williamssport, maryland. i want you to know "the kennedys" has broken 5,000 book reviews on amazon. "killing lincoln" is approaching 6,000. i have never seen it before. we appreciate the readers saying good things about the books. in addition, "killing jesus" has about 2500 views already. most are very positive. finally tonight, the factor tip of the day. right after thanksgiving american swings in to christmas mode. so here are my three favorite christmas albums for your consideration. first, the carpenters. i know you will make fun of me. i know it. karen carpenter, the best pure voice of any american female singer i have ever heard. christmas album is great. second one, james taylor. this guy sings a very mean christmas song. he's got the little hat on and heaven remember it is words. that's a reference to fenway park this year. finally, johnny mathis, a t