it will be a much wealthier operation. >> yeah, dr. dysonwhat dana's talking about nut-ification. it's not just south carolina. 11 states have enacted nullification laws. 11 conservative counties in colorado are voting on exactly that today. they want to create a 51st state. and a lot of right wing media pundits have been pushing the secession idea since president obama first was elected. listen to this. >> i'm not for secession, but i understand why people might be. >> in the end if you're going to jam all this stuff down our throats, then maybe it would be about secession. some people would probably say, yeah, i think maybe it's time to get out of this. >> this is a reasonable woman, she's talking about secession. civil war. she's not alone, folks. this is not the rantings of extreme kookism anymore. >> for two years the tea party has dominated and ran the party and has been the big guys of the gop. but tonight they may lose, they may get punched in the mouth in virginia tonight. >> well, we hope so. this discourse of secessionism again is

dr. dyson, you first.s is a very fair question because the judicial system should work for everybody equally at least i think that's the way it is supposed to be in america. if a teenage black kid in washington, d.c. were to get hung up in a cocaine drug bust, would he get just a year's probation and a $250 fine? is this fair? >> no, sir. no, sir. ed, we know that this -- black and white people do drugs in equal proportion, equal numbers. but in washington, d.c., a remarkable disproportion of people taken to jail and put in, put away and the key thrown away for a while are african-american and latino. if a black person were in this same situation as this congressman they would be put in a jail cell and not remembered. they would have no remedy in terms of going to rehab. they wouldn't have a medicalization of a problem. it would be a criminalization. i feel personally empathetic toward this congressman but the tragedy is as you eloquently pointed out the tea party has been so insensitive and harping on peo

. >> thank you, dr. dyson you. >> why isn't president obama getting any credit for the things he's doing right? they beat up on this man as if he's done the worst thing since the, you know, the invention of the wrong machine that we can hit. what's going on here? why can't he get any credit? >> well, the bottom line is the president is making progress in spite of, and so as a consequence, you have 204,000 jobs created in spite of, and with that being the case, please understand, there's an underlying issue of race that oftentimes is not addressed. this black man in the white house. and on the other hand, you also have a determination on the right to do everything wrong to ensure that the president does not have success. after all, this is the same right wing that before the last election, you had some of their leaders saying that their number-one priority was to ensure that the president does not get a second term. you had, who is it, rush limbaugh say when he was first elected he wanted him to fail. so that h