dr. marty makary. do you think police knew that they were showing misty croslin deer bones, not little girl bones? >> you know, based on the shape of a bone, oftentimes you can make a deduction, but you need a laboratory to know with 100% certainty. otherwise, a bone can look like a bone. >> unleash the lawyers. we are taking your calls live. joining us out of the philadelphia jurisdiction, attorney anthony f. list. also with us, defense attorney new york, alan ripka. along with him, defense attorney jason oshins joining us out of new york, practicing in multiple jurisdictions. first to you, oshins. there's not a thing wrong with what police did. >> no, nancy. you know, i've got to cite you on that. that's excellent police work. they're trying to, you know, pinch one against the other, hopefully get an excited utterance like we think that might have occurred between the two croslins in the back of the police car. really nothing to do from a defense point of view. it's protected by the hearsay rule. and

dr. marty makary, physician, professor of public health at johns hopkins. dr. makary, it's my understanding that chloroform was banned by the government for consumer use on patients back in the '70s. so if that's correct, if i understand that, maybe they could still use it at a hospital, i don't think so, but that would be a big -- another big fat lie of tot mom's, that she got it through her mother. >> that's right. we only use straight alcohol. we don't use chloroform anymore. the only place it's really stocked is in a laboratory where in places -- >> wait, wait, wait. you use straight alcohol? what do you mean you use straight alcohol? for what? >> anything that ends with an o-l like chloroform or alcohol is used to clean. it's a sanitizer. it's diluted down, and it's a powerful anti-septic. so we use straight alcohol to clean or -- or sterilize all sorts of equipment. >> okay. you just taught me something new, dr. ma cary. i thought chloroform was used to sedate people. >> it used to be in the old days to sedate people when they didn't have good anesthesia.