dr. jonathon miller. >> i'll look it up. >> is he still alive? i don't know. >> i never heard of him. >> i haven't heard of him either. >> i think i can see him. he had a lot of documentaries, right? >> yeah. >> i kind of remember him, pbs stuff. >> yeah, a british man. >> a british guy, yeah. i remember that. >> yeah. >> joanne, you weren't even born. >> and he directed opera. >> well there you go. >> he must have been on top of it being british. >> you must have thought the british built a tunnel to the french. after trying to kill this will off they built a tunnel. what is that all about? >> the french tunnel was six inches off when they met in the middle. >> joanne thoughts on the running. >> i don't run. i fractured my hip jogging so i don't jog anymore. >> how do you stay in shape? >> i actually use kettle bells. it is funny they say jogging is extreme exercise. really, they are attacking the joggers and not the crossfiters. let's get our priorities straight. >> i also use kettle corn to exercise. i am assuming the hard core joggers either

dr. steve miller is the chief medical officer at express scrips. they paid for john picard creams but recently stopped covering many of them because dr. miller says, there is no research proving they work. >> if you talk to almost any pain expert, they will tell us these things work strictly through a placebo response and not through a physiological response through pain receptors. >> reporter: the creams were formulated and produced at downing labs, a compounding pharmacy in dallas. ashley downing and her husband and co-owner chris downing recently hosted this red carpet event to celebrate their pharmacy's multimillion dollar growth. last month we sat down with the downings to ask them about their business. did you have any knowledge that products produced by downing labs were being shipped to people who had not asked for them and insurance companies were being billed at these kinds of rates? >> we became aware that there were issues being made and that people were not happy and when we then sat down as a company and decided we're no longer going

dr. miller. we've heard a lot of testimony with regard to procedural justice, both external procedural justice and internal procedural justice within departments. and i noted in your testimony that you indicated the greatest source of stress was organizational for police officers. i'm wondering if you could perhaps give us some insight to how procedural justice being instituted within departments might be helpful in that regard. >> i want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to discuss something that i didn't have room to fit into my five-minute presentation. you gave me the perfect opening. this is a concept from organizational psychology, the difference between what's called distributive justice and procedural justice. let's say we have a dispute. i want to get everything i want, you want to get everything you want, but typically what will happen is a compromise will be made. one of us is going to be less satisfied than other with that compromise. that's how the spoils of that conflict ar

dr. miller. we've heard a lot of testimony with regard to procedural justice, both external procedural justice and internal procedural justice within departments. and i noted in your testimony that you indicated the greatest source of stress was organizational for police officers. i'm wondering if you could perhaps give us some insight to how procedural justice being instituted within departments might be helpful in that regard. >> i want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to discuss something that i didn't have room to fit into my five-minute presentation. you gave me the perfect opening. this is a concept from organizational psychology the difference between what's called distribute distributeive justice and procedural justice. let's say we have a dispute. i want to get everything i want, you want to get everything you want, but typically what will happen is a compromise will be made. one of us is going to be less satisfied than oertthe other with that compromise. that's how the spoils

dr. miller and dr. ramey. if we look at the research you have done over the years as it relates to ptsd heart disease and suicide with older officers, see here, dr. vilanet you mentioned that suicide appears to cluster in the 44-year-old group and you also further testified here, too that large -- a rather large increase in suicide is seen in officers with 15 to 19 years of service. the question becomes, there's a population of police officers that are going out particularly those in my age group, okay where in the twilight of our careers, and much of what you're talking about, much of the research, i assume has been validated pretty much on this population on my population, if you will. now, if we consider the fact that there's a younger population of young men and women coming on police departments today, entirely different generation 21, 22 years of age and anecdotally, much healthier, grew up in a time where they become more health conscious because their parents are more health conscious, less likely to d

dr. miller in the body human? >> no. no. >> you should get it and look at it. he was on top of all of that stuff. dr. jop than miller. is he still alive? i don't know. i never heard of him. >> i think i could see him. he had a lot of documentaries, right? i kind of remember. pbs stuff. >> yeah, i remember that. >> he also directed opera. >> wow. the there you go. >> i'm all for it. >> if the british built a tunnel to the frempl after they tried to kill them off for years they built a freaking tunnel. >> the french tunnel was six inches payoff when they met the middle. >> joeann foxon the running. >> i fractured my hip jogging, so i don't jog. >> how do you stay in shape? >> i use ketel balls. they say jogging is extreme exercise. they're attacking the joggers and not the cross fitters. >> they're terrible. >> awful. >> i also use kettle corn to exercise. i'm assuming the hardcore joggers died of boredom or murdered because they wouldn't shut up about jogging. that's what they do. they talk about jogging nonstop. even too much smoking will kill you. >> reallisome

dr. miller? >> as with many of the topics are today the devil is in the details.a number of agencies that work with a big fiber gated model and that is certain types of incidents, for example, officer involved shootings but any officer involved, officer involved shooting is mandatory made to go for critical incident followed which consist of a single session. there's no stigma attached to it but everybody goes was not what one person has been affected more than anyone else, and the way we conceptualize it just a general checkup checking the points in place of your printer to make sure everything works. overwhelming majority of cases the officer, some papers dated aspect is headed, psychologically the office is critical back to work. occasionally counseling is offered in them accessible but not necessary mandate. there might be some of the situations where the supplies such as hostages centers and so on but for the past winter to officers who are experiencing stress is begin to relate to some combination of personal stresses and work stresses the other way is to ma

dr. miller reminded me of plan i've seen in some industries where they call it a face at retirement. another were to work full-time for 15 years and then he would phase out for the next five years perhaps work three-quarters time for one year the next year and a quarter time and then out. this seems to work well in industry but i don't know about policing. something that might be possible. >> thank you very much. josÉ lopez followed by brittany packnett. >> i think i have two questions. i wanted to return to the question that tracy asked earlier on the panel. the discussion was a discussion around mandatory counseling of some sort for officers. and so i guess the first question is a two-part question. the first part for mr. orr, i'm just wondering as a union wrap and if someone who is actively engaged in discussion with rank-and-file officers is something like mandating counseling something that you think other union reps across the country could get behind and do you think that is something that the rank-and-file officers across the country would want their union reps to push? the s

dr. miller. she's in studio this morning.ek. so what is this, the breakdown of this story? after 2, no more nap, i don't buy this. >> this was a metta analysis. it reviewed 26 other independent studies about napping in children ages 0 through 5. it showed that children above the age of 2 may want need that daily nap and it showed that overall, it prolonged the time they had to go to sleep, so their bedtime was later, the sleep they had overnight was shorter in duration and the quality was not as good as it would have been otherwise. >> so when they turn 18 they become criminals? >> you disagree. you have some problems with it. >> i do. ting most important thing to know is that this was really based on parental subjective data, so they did not use sleep studies in order to gather their data. so i really recommend talking to your doctor and coming up with a really, a sleep plan that optimizes your child's overnight bedtime sleep and working with them to see if they need a nap during the daytime. >> it's so important the sleep t

dr. miller who passed away yesterday. dane was born in 1946 and was nothing short of the classic american success story. along with his wife. there's also no shortage of professional accomplishments to fully describe this industry titan. as the founder of biomed a medical device company in warsaw indiana, he started the company in true indiana form. in a converted barn. during his time as president and c.e.o., he managed to grow biomed into a company of over $2 billion in annual sales and 4,000 employees. mr. stutzman: he was a brilliant man. he was a ph.d. and biomedical engineer known for numerous innovations in the medical device industry. perhaps the only two things he didn't know how to do was to give up or -- on a problem or retire. he was tireless in his efforts. the only -- the only thing larger than his ability was his heart. his time and energy were fully dedicated to his wife, family and the greater community of warsaw and hometown. my heart goes out to his family today and the innumerable people whose lives he

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