that is behind the dsm. much these disorders do is substitute for moral judgment. we have a reflex of something bad happens we assume somebody is mentally ill. i write about pedophilia and you think that guy is really sick. is the? or is he just an opportunist? is he just somebody who has a moment where he can get what he once? that is the question the apa has been fighting all along. is a really true every time somebody does something that registers as bizarre beyond pale that they are sick? i myself believe the answer has to be no. i think our moral discourse is impoverished by the tendency to make diseases and it is the unfashionable word but there is evil. >> when i was younger i was diagnosed with a ph.d. and then i realize this is a bunch of buullshit like his ear and listened to without jumping up to sing all over the place. and i have noticed they diagnose these 10 kids and when i was younger you diagnose the kid who has an interest in something or just has a lot of energy so you must have a ph.d. an

where in the dsm iv you know longer had to have speech delay.hey're tightening it up a bit. some of it is increased diagnosis. i can think of kids i went to college with that i know were in the spectrum. i can think of people i know were on the spectrum, they run the the meat shops. >> dr. grandin, it's a great book, thank you so much for being with us. straight ahead, et tu, brute? brnk >>> this is fort mead, it houses the a spy agency, and a training academy that teaches soldiers about journalism. on monday there was a different course on journalism at fort mead. bradley manning faced a court-martial for sending classified documents to wikileaks, throughout history, from domestic surveillance in the bush era to the fbi's dirty tricks against martin luther king jr. to the 47 volumes of the pentagon papers which exposed government lies to led to vietnam. now the government first reaction to that disscloes yur was yes, to try to suppress every aspect of it, from forcing newspapers to censor the stories, to chrjing this man, daniel elseberg under

i believe people can recover from schizophrenia and bipolar and psychosis and all the dsm-labeled categories. not everyone recovers, but many do and many go on to live very happy and successful lives. and even if you don't recover to what other people's standards are what they think "recovery" is, you can get to a point within your own life, you can achieve a lot of happiness. so i advocate recovery and i advocate hope, hope for a better tomorrow for ourselves, our community and our world. thank you. >> thank you very much. and i thank everyone for coming out to do your presentations. it is very much an eye-opener and thank you again. we can go on to item no. 8. information report on the golden guardian exercise on may 15, 2013, the disability perspective. presented by council members chip and denise. >> thank you, roland. there has been a miswording on agenda. this is more of an update than a report. the disaster -- disability disaster preparedness committee is meeting july 5th and we're in the process of accumulating data from the experiences of people with disabilities who participated as

what do you think about the dsm in caffeine was always in there now withdrawal is added. >> the tameresident was to say there are real symptoms you have when you stop drinking coffee or caffeine. you can get your heart racing get irritable all of that is fair for it to be a mental disorder i have a problem with that. it is a physiological problem and doesn't deserve to be along with that category. >> it is under control. >> it is temporary. medical more than internist thing than i think ewings at trick. one thing we hear is caffeine dehydrates you true or false. >> in 2002 they carefully looked at this and said it is about as dehydrating as water is. i am not saying you should use it to hydrate you but it is not dehydrating as we thought it was. >> number two, three cups of coffee a day can help your memory. fact or fiction? >> that is fact. that came out of austrian researchers. it takes you attend better your attention is better and your memory is better. especially in women. >> i don't drink soda but i drink caffeinated soda. >> studies don't prove that caffeine helps you with wei

obama derangement syndrome and while you will not find that disorder listed in the recently released dsmt chronicled in detile in a new book about the president's first term "the center holds: obama and his enemies." we're delighted to welcome the book's author, jonathan alter. jonath jonathan, i think i've read two thirds and it's an outstanding work of contemporary history. but my view is not shared by others. fox news have just released a statement to our website moments ago about your depiction of fox's roger ailes. jonathan alter is living if an altered universe, his fantasies about a man to whom h malice. nearly 100% of the items he lists in his book are factually inaccurate, and are in fact complete outright fiction. your response? >> well, i guess the question is who do you believe, me or roger ailes? you know he says i have no sources for this. all my sources are current or former fox news employees. you'll notice that he never actually denies a specific charge. i'm very familiar with this kind of thing for years of "newsweek." >> it's the blanket condemnation. it's all rubbish.

the dsm-iv lists all diagnoses, ranging from schizophrenia to depression to anxiety.ways been substance-related issues whether it's alcoholism or cocaine or heroin abuse or withdrawal, caffeine is a drug. and when you have those symptoms of withdrawal, it is also included in the classification. >> you mentioned symptoms. so what are they for caffeine intoxication? >> for caffeine intoxication -- and we're seeing more of this now because of these energy drinks, we're seeing people coming into the emergency room it's a whole constellation of symptoms, but they include things like flushed face and pal palpitations, anxiety, even psychosis, people seeing and hearing things that aren't there because they've had so much caffeine. >> are withdrawal symptoms or the same or different? >> they're different. if you are really addicted to caffeine and you suddenly stop you have to fall into this dsm category. you have to have three out of five different symptoms. they include things like depression, headache fatigue, difficulty concentrating. and even some flu-like symptoms. musc

this is from the dsm what i describe in the book. >> host: so when we are talking about addiction and people who become addictive give me a description of who is at risk and why they are at risk. >> guest: it's a difficult one. when we think about addiction one of the things americans have done that is inappropriate when i think about it action, we act as if the drug itself is special. addiction has less to do with the pharmacology of the drug. it has a lot to do with whether or not people are plugged into society, whether or not they are responsible, a wide range of social factors play an important role but what we have done in the country is that we have paid less attention to those things because it is less to really talk about the fact that this person is irresponsible before they started using drugs. this person was overindulging in a wide range of behaviors before drugs. so instead what we have chosen to focus on is like the biology of the individual. what does their brain that quite? can we tell if someone is addicted to looking at the brain? hell no, there is no evidence that

those disorders and abuse related issues are also in the dsm.ic illness such as depression and psychosis and things like that. >> what's the best way to kick the habit? could you go cold turkey or wean yourself off. >> taper like you would taper off of steroids. how much is actually too much. we can talk about that. that you taper. you go from a vin at a to a a grande to a tall. >> how young is too young this is the most appalling. 2-year-old recently on toddlers and tiaras drinking so-called tinker tea. check it out. >> alexa has coffee tinker tea. >> put it in my cup. >> i will put it in your cup. soda, sweet tea and pixie sticks all together. >> sweet tea, mountain dew and pixie sticks. if you ask me borders on child abuse there says she has been doing it since 9 months old. how old is too young. >> children and adolescents. no exceptions to that american academy of pediatrics does not recommend any caffeine for children or adolescents. ironically as we get older we become more sensitive to caffeine. youngsters actually has the ability to met

dsm c., and obvious -- c.d.c., obviously people in georgia know it more intimately than in my state, they more than likely think of them doing something in asia or africa, not locally. we know that our hospitals for instance are sometimes havens for unnecessary illnesses due to health care -- to -- to infections acquired in the hospital, antibiotic resistant superbugs such as c.r.a., a family of germs with high levels of rsence t resistance to antib. i wonder if my friend would expand on that. mr. isakson: i appreciate your focus on that. you know, my friend from ohio is exactly right. the antimicrobial resist sense a serious threat to americans' health. many are resistant to multiple classes of antibiotics. and i might add a personal note. three years ago i developed a mrsa infection in a hospital in atlanta and almost lost my life to an antibiotic resistant disease and infection, so i know how important it is to have a research facility like the c.d.c. that can constantly stay one step ahead of the evolution of defenses these microbes bring up themselves. as a recent example, a rec

. >> so you have picked up the dsm five and said that christians are now psychotic, because they believeid you have the right to pray and believe deeply in your heart, but the minute you get a voice saying you, richard are right and she is wrong, that's a real voice from god telling you that you have special dispensation. >> and because of that you get paranoid thinking that -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> yeah. you throw these words around as if they are not important. and you foemeant a lot of hatred towards christians. >> was defending their right to have a certain belief. i think certain people that think god is talking to just them in an auditory voice aren't necessarily christian or even telling you the truth. what does that have to do with every christian or foe meanting hatred towards christians. >> the way you characterized this -- >> i characterized that people have the right to their own belief. but the people who sell the idea of being a christian versus acting it out. and if you think there's no difference -- if you think that everybody who says they are christian, who calls

intoxication and withdrawal are now included in the mental health bible known by professionals known as the dsm-vrecommend interval and limiting intake. >> this is the first thing you do is run for the coffee pot. >> that is correct. before anything else, i get play on the coffee maker. >> play. >> sounds exciting. >> so, anyway, i don't know. if loving coffee is wrong -- >> you don't want to be right. >> exactly. a provacative plan to combat teen parenthood. the ad says unexpected? most teen pregnancies are. the pictures are plastered all over the city specifically in areas around high schools and communities with a high teen birth rate. officials in chicago say they were inspired by a similar campaign in milwaukee. this was the most discussed and most shared story on facebook on monday. it is shocking to see those images. absolutely. >> all right. trending today on huffington post, a lesson in keeping your cool under pressure. if you've ever been stuck on an airplane, you know how stressful that can be. a group of passengers on flight 592 on sunday vented their anger in a surprisingly musical w

>> right it's in the dsm manual a mental illness and it's being diagnosed that way. >> so you make theime you cave in and go for the contraba contraband. >> that would be me. >> and the other one is to be compassionate with yourself. i like it if you take a baby photo of you, put it across from you so you can see it and say would i feed that little girl that kind of food? would i be acting that way to that little girl? >> let's bring in a couple of your clients, deedee barton and valerie paglisi. >> hi, ladies. you've changed both their lives. let's start with deedee. how are you? >> i'm great. >> you brought dorothy to help you with your paperwork. >> my husband and i have an accounting firm and hundreds of thousands of pieces of data and paper so i thought well she can help me manage my system but what she actually did was help me grow my business by just better organizing strategies and then made time for getting everything done. >> we look at your stats as well in the process of decluttering you also lost 20 pounds, is that right? >> well i like to say that i really lost 40 because