governor ducey, starting with you. since i'm the moderator i get to pick what we are going to dig into first. my nephew actually lives in arizona and has been the benefit, has had the benefit of changing schools because of the law that you passed. the most comprehensive in the country on school choice. i know it had to have some challenges. what are the lessons learned to share with other leaders? doug: well, first i'm thrilled to hear about your nephew and the opportunities he's had around school choice and i get to hear those stories all the time every time i'm out in public and i think it's important to remember that with a new idea, an innovative idea that we are in a persuasion business. there are some people who are very nostalgic for the neighborhood school at horace mann, founded 100 plus years ago. but right now things have changed and we know that children learn in different ways and we know we have a special needs population, these children that are simply in zip codes where they are not having access to opp

doug ducey certified the last election. he knows that keri lake as extreme. he knows that the secretary of state candidate's extreme. and it would be refreshing for somebody like him to say, hey, this one time, i'm going to put partisanship aside and all mark finchem is supposed to do as secretary of state is certify the election. he says that he won't. that's his only job. it's not like he's appointing judges or doing tax cuts or anything. so, i will oppose mark finchem. and when it comes from carey like, i need to hear from her that she will certify the election and uphold the democracy. -- to me, that is even more pathetic than the folks who are genuine and extreme. >> there is somebody who is doing something about it, republican adam kinzinger. he's endorsing democrats. that are running against election deniers. you think that will make a difference? he is helping them raise money. >> i do. because look, the secretary of state races, all of the time they fly under the radar. they're not well funded. and that is why i started the american sos project back

governor ducey saw the huge gaps in the fence that we paid for but they didn't want to build becausebuild it, and he said, "i'm not going to wait for the next election. i'm going to get these huge shipping containers and pile them up on each other and they will be able to funnel would-be immigrants or deter would-be immigrants before they get through." guess what? the federal government says that's trespassing, pull them down. so governor ducey decides to double down and he is adding to his makeshift border wall, and cary lake weighed in on what she would do if she replaces governor ducey. >> what we are going to do is go to the u.s. constitution, article one, section ten. we have an invasion on our border, within the first hour of my administration will issue a declaration of invasion. >> steve: that's one of the issues that a lot of channels didn't cover for years. even doing it here at fox and it wasn't until governor abbott down in texas started sending migrants to new york, washington, chicago, places like that. people are talking about that, and not only the border, but inflati

arizona governor doug ducey defying the biden administration by filling in more border wall gaps withing containers. his office released these photos of no barriers being laid down yesterday. the move comes as the republican nominee to replace governor ducey kari lake vows to take bold moves to secure the border if she is elected. >> what we are going to do is go to the u.s. constitution article one section 10. woe have answer investigation on our border within the first hour of my administration we are going to issue a declaration of invasion. >> comes after 227,000 migrants were encountered last month. a september record to a fox weather alert now, multiple tornadoes reported throughout texas last night. one tornado was reportedly on the ground for several miles as part of a storm brought hail to the area. the twister coming from the remnants of hurricane roselyn which made landfall as a category 4 storm in southwest mexico on sunday. you can follow this developing story by down loading the fox weather app. on any connected device. and a crazy situation out of the grand canyon after

doug ducey wins it, he handily wins re-election because he won there. same four counties. 2020, joe biden is president, in part, because he won arizona. he won the state by 10,000 votes. what changed? one, two, three, four, five. nearly 62% of the population lives right here in maricopa county. this is where the people are. joe biden wins this county by 45,000 votes. he wins the state by 10,000 votes. it was all right there. do suburban voters stick with kari lake? do they go back to being republican? or are they shifting toward the democrats? >> you make the case, but when you look at the margin, that means there are other places, rural places that could be significant. >> yes. and so that's the challenge for kari lake is to keep your trump base and then win back enough people in the suburbs to keep the trump base, look at the trump margins. 78,000 votes. this is how donald trump won in other places and how he keeps other states close. run it up in rural areas. huge margins like that. so around the outskirts of the state, can kari lake turn out the tru

that's your white house correspondent ducey.ng the question, i can't imagine why everybody is not asking it. gas prices are going up. ducey is asking the question over there and he's really boxing on jean-pierre. >> it is very true. that was your high. the interesting thing is spencer, your low is being called the dumbest story of the week. this is "politico" tweeting. if we can put it up on the streen. he sure does like the president's wallet as if it is joe biden's money. >> "politico," did they not realize that the federal government's money is not the president's personal money. it is actually the american people and it is from our wallets. it is problematic on that front if they don't seem to understand where money comes from but also to claim only states who have leaders agreed with the white house in the wake of a disaster like this is tyranny, that does not work in a free country like ours. you can't get pay out if you agree with the men in the white house. >> of course. that is the mentality here. they try to box -- the

governor ducey praised the measure back in july of this year. >> every parent in arizona is going toer dollars so they can spend it in the way that they are best educating their child. >> harris: it says parents are the first and primary educators of their children. the world will be a better place when parents are freely directing their child's education with no obstacles in their way. corey deangelis is a senior fellow at the american federation for children always closely watching this issue. what is working in arizona and how bad a defeat was that for the people who wanted to hurt duesy's law? >> this is the biggest school choice victory in u.s. history. every single family, regardless of income, regardless of background or zip code will be able to take their kids' education dollars to the education provider they are choosing. public, charter, private or home-based education option. a monumental victory for parents on the ground in arizona. they stopped the union-backed group from blocking the program. the fox news op-ed was written by christina korso to show the benefits of the

doug ducey was against overturning elections.he legitimate president, but he's stepped in line behind kari lake. >> you're seeing people like glenn youngkin going to arizona and campaigning for kari lake. but let's zoom in on what's going on in arizona. i think it is actually really emblematic of what is happening just up and down the ballot in that state. you've got kari lake running for governor. she is an election denier, involved in the stop and steal effort. but then you have mark fincham running for secretary of state. he's an oath keeper, an election denier. the attorney general also an election denier. these are up and down the ballot in the state of arizona, in, by the way, to your point, a state where they have done audits. they have proven, basically, that there was no election fraud in that state -- [ overlapping speakers ] >> up and down the ballot there are election deniers on the ballot. that is worth emphasizing, that a lot of these folks could get elected. >> not only could they get elected, but you're hitting on

has also said if she had been governor she would not have certified the election, unlike governor duceyyour contemporary right now, a rep. congresswoman liz cheney takes issue with you supporting kari lake. take a listen. >> governor youngkin in virginia is doing a good job. i think he's demonstrated that he's somebody who has not bought into the toxin of donald trump, but he campaigned recently for kari lake who is an election denier, who is dangerous, and that's the kind of thing we cannot see in our party. >> you haven't gone to arizona yet, but you're about to. what's your response? i do think there are a lot of reasonable, pragmatic fact-based republicans who are disappointed that you're doing this. >> in order for us to press forward in the republican party we, in fact, need to do that, look forward, not backwards. what i found in virginia was that we could bring together forever trumpers and never trumpers and libertarians and tea party members and lots of independents and lots of democrats. i think the republican party has to be a party where we're not shunning people and exclud

eastern, doug ducey, betsy devos, and a number of others will talk about school choice and safety athe american strong and free summit. then a conversation on covid-19 and the barriers to pandemic preparedness. coming up this evening we will bring you a debate between kevin stent and his democratic challenger, joy hofmeister. all live today on c-span, c-span now, and online at c-span.org. host: and we welcome you back now for one more hour of "the washington journal" this morning. a lot of books have came out in the past year or so. what makes the divider different from those other books? guest: the first book and only one so far that is the history of the trump administration. we saw it was important not just to write about the catastrophic ending from the trump presidency in 2020, but to understand how we got to that place in many ways. guest: itguest: was a violent and inexorable the four euros salt of the american democracy. it was based on more than 300 interviews that we did all after trump was in office. host: both of you have a lot of access to people when trump was in access

our governor doug ducey says we do elections well. these elections were audited and certified by democrats and republicans. but conspiracy theories, like the one he is peddling are dangerous to our democracy, folks. we are on the verge of the wheels coming off of this thing. we've got to get back to a better place. host: all right. blake, do you want to talk about the military aspect? mr. masters: there is a reason 57% of veterans are supporting me right now. 72% of active-duty military service members right now in arizona are supporting me. that is what my latest internal polling said. there's a reason for that. yeah, i speak up and i criticize general milley. i've criticized the top layer of military leadership, he's very political agendas. obama did this, he purged the military of great generals. apolitical generals. he elevated in their place left-wing mediocrities like general milley. you've all seen at home, general milley testifying in front of congress. bloviating about white rage, talking about how we need to teach soldiers c

our governor doug ducey says we do elections well.hese elections were audited and certified by democrats and republicans. but conspiracy theories, like the one he is peddling are dangerous to our democracy, folks. we are on the verge of the wheels coming off of this thing. we've got to get back to a better place. host: all right. blake, do you want to talk about the military aspect? mr. masters: there is a reason 57% of veterans are supporting me right now. 72% of active-duty military service members right now in arizona are supporting me. that is what my latest internal polling said. there's a reason for that. yeah, i speak up and i criticize general milley. i've criticized the top layer of military leadership, he's very political agendas. obama did this, he purged the military of great generals. apolitical generals. he elevated in their place left-wing mediocrities like general milley. you've all seen at home, general milley testifying in front of congress. bloviating about white rage, talking about how we need to teach soldiers cri

for just a couple more months, you have the likes of hutchinson, doug ducey, liz cheney, they're all this window of opportunity for them to really take the mic and get the attention of the populous is really starting to close. >> sure. let me bring into the conversation eddie glaude and matt dowd standing by. i'm exhausted by republicans who don't want to be for all of the crazy that comes with trump and trumpism in this state as kari lake, but they're not sure they're ready tathrow in with the democrats. that's all there is. you either aurm ffbly vote for republicans or affirmatively vote for democrats. you may want more ways to save democracy. today, that's it. >> that's it. you're either for democracy or not. silence is complicity. silence you've made a choice. this is the danger. we've been over and over again trying to provide space for republicans to say they're not trumpest, right, that there's space for them, they're not the ones who have gone over it. but there's space for them to be normal republicans. in this moment that space allows them to inhabit that identity where the

in 20, doug ducey is endorsing kari lake and spending tens of billions of dollars. it doesn't mean he would literally endorse overturning the election but creates a situation where the party will do so, same with kevin mccarthy elevating marjorie taylor greene she's took with mccarthy when they announce their agenda they're boys and extremists on both sides. it's unique to have them so close to the center of power the ex-president is the leading candidate to be the nominee. that is what is alarming about democracy in the u.s.. >> most americans don't realize the image of the united states and our soft power that everyone wants to emulate no longer exists. a majority of europeans say they don't see the united states as a model for democracy. we pay a price internationally. >> first i would say the audience, meat loaf, discussing the deterioration of america as an example and an inability and soft power, we are undermining it because we don't look like a democracy. the second point is bill made a crucial point in his work the people who know better and stay silent hav

not even fox news steve ducey has asked if he is sat down and met with tony bobulinski. guest: this administration does not answer a lot of question. s. you see it in the briefing every day and you see president biden answers fewer questions than his two predecessors. he does not do as many media interviews. it is hard to get questions into this administration. host: jeff mordock covers the white house for the washi january 6 returns thursday for its next hearing ahead of its release of the written report expected by the end of the year. you can watch the hearing life beginning at 1:00 p.m. on c-span. ♪ middle and high school students, it's your time to shine. you are invited to participate in this years documentary competition in light of the upcoming midterm election picture yourself as a newly elected member of congress. what is your top priority? make a five to six minute video that shows the importance of your issues from opposing and supporting perspectives. don't be afraid to take risks. among the cash prizes is a $5,000 grand prize. visit our website for competit

where this administration is hoping it will be and this is part of peter ducey's reporting is towardthat goal of 2050 and not needing that fossil fuel. that's a fantasy because we'll be catching up for many years of where we are now. >> can you think of a worse time to be in the situation where we are in right now with the strategic petroleum reserve? >> see and it want to cut us off like opec? >> you want that thing full of -- we got exactly the opposite. by the way -- the numbers that you quoted and you are hearing from the elector there, the assumption is always americans can't do math and they can't interpret the numbers. you look at what she's saying, you know what i know none of that is right and i know there is contexts there and you are afraid to give it to me because you think i am just plain done. >> i feel like i am saving $420 million a day. >> you have not feel that. >> katrina, don't they know, we got our phone and we can do math. >> homes around the nation, when you are in people's homes, they are authentic and they tell you what's on their mind. they're not stepping o

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governor doug ducey responded in a statement that says "arizona has had enough. the administration charge the state with taking down its makeshift wall claiming it's a legal pier the war of words comes as the mayor of el paso contradicted himself on fox news when questioned whether the white house asked him not to declare an emergency at the border. here's the mayor on "america's newsroom" and when he first made those comments back on september 27th. listen. >> did the white house ask you not to declare a state of emergency? >> absolutely not. the chief, he did not support the declaring of of a state of emergency. our county judge does not support that at this point. we may have to do that. there's going to be a point where we may have to do that. but at this point, the white house has asked for us not to do that. and el paso city council member join jesse watters to react to that. >> as much as the mayor wants to say this is not a political issue, those comments would probably say otherwise. we hope in the future we'll definitely put the people of el paso first

i support governor ducey and trying to fill these holes in any way possible.ant to finish president trumps wall. we plan to do that when i am governor. in the short term, let's get something to cover these gaps where people are pouring in, the drugs are pouring in. i am glad that the governor is fighting back. we will fight back every single day against joe biden and any democrat off their attack on the people of arizona as we try to secure our border. >> we are also seeing these spikes in crime. murder, attacks, burglary all up across the country as a result of cashless bail. what is happening in arizona and what about the gata ways. do they find arizona as their first stop once they enter through texas? >> crime is way out. murder rates in tucson arizona are the highest they have ever been. the streets in some areas look like the zombie apocalypse. we had to issue narcan to an infant, to infants in the last month in the phoenix area. this is how bad the crisis is here in phoenix. it is all being fueled by a wide-open border with people pouring across that we

which i happen to think, i don't like that eric adams sent people there, greg abbott and governor ducey. tim ryan is an anti-establishment guy. not a big deal for tim ryan to say that, it helps him. in the debate last night he wanted to say i vote for things i agree with and stand for ohio on things that don't help our state. people glaze over. i watch this downturn in terms of democratic support on the issue of immigration, even a couple of weeks ago, we were up one or two point, now we're underwater. everything that's come out on the hissue of immigration, it is parallel to what's going on with crime and mrissing. it will never be inflation and the economy, but if you allow people the opportunity to discount everything that you say after the border is secure, they do not know what your position is. they can't tell you what the policies are to fix it. not saying they wake up and say build the wall, that's not going to happen. they don't think they're serious. >> even jessica agrees kamala is an unmitigated disaster not just for america but the world. >> i think that's what she said, to

. >> the politics is now different and there are other republican governors, doug ducey in arizona going for full scale school choice. ron desantis in florida, taking on the inappropriate teaching of subjects in the early grades. so it is probably a red and blue issue, and you know what, i think this november we'll see marks in the red column for republicans on this issue, thanks so taking it up in the right way. >> john: you mentioned, bill, teachers' unions, and the american federation of teachers has got a nationwide bus tour heading into these midterms. ahead of that, weingarten saying this is fighting for democracy, concerns keeping people up at night. and who stokes resentment, anger and fear rather than finding solutions to our biggest problems. and the test scores, our dr. nicole saphier says the teachers' unions, like lucy, have a lot of explaining to do. >> tv does have tape, it has a record and we remember what she said about how horrible it would be to open up those schools because how those children were so subject to getting so sick from covid. we all remember that. we have

bit of this in the intro but i want to play the whole thing if i can back-and-forth between peter ducey in the president earlier today. >> [indescernable] >> all important. unlike you, there's no one thin that crosses the board. ask about foreign policy to visit multiple multiple issues and all important be back we ought to be able to walk and chew gum at the same time. >> what's the point? answer the questions give us a great answer or a straight answer. my thoughts? once again the president comes across as condescending and defensive by taking a personal shot peter bizzy. overall mr. biden answer the question with another thousand island islandwide salad. he says that there's multiple issues to address about the question is what is he doing to address them? if you would stay and answer questions at longer there could be a follow-up because of inflation he's argued is spending more money hundreds of billions at the inflation reduction act number inflation every study says otherwise is clear to the reckons prizes is dependent on saudi arabia, russia and venezuela. i can't be good. it's

for all the complaining about what abbott and ducey and desantis did.comments that you hear cuellar saying i can't get the white house to return my calls. >> i think eric's come to jesuss moment when you look through the lenses, he was very dishonest and blaming abbott for all the influx when abbott was less than 5% of the immigrants that were coming in. so then he went to do the tent city and got backlash from his own party. so because again the unaffected love to tell the affected what to do and then when a fraction of it shows up at your doorstep they are throwing their arms up and having a fit because he did the tent city. he thought it was a brilliant idea. he will blame everybody. he is stuck. >> bill: he said i don't believe the silence i'm hearing, the far left. imagine the border towns. talk about silence. they've been screaming for two years. >> a fraction of what's going on at the border and he can't believe it. he even has places to place them and able to make a tent city. the cities on the border don't have any room. >> bill: he said the fl

the 2024 presidential election which we know was consequential pivotal in 2020, the fact that doug ducey, the sitting republican governor, and the people who work in the current secretary of state and others said that they were going to follow the law, count the votes and then put up the person who won. well, that was joe biden. it is not clear if that would be the case if kari lake were to become governor. we talked about 2020, about the fact that election denial is a pretty key part of her campaign out on the campaign trail. absolutely was in the republican primary. it's in large part not only how she got trump's endorsement, but got the republican nomination, and she continues to do it. that was why we discussed it. in addition to really important issues like inflation and border issues before them. but when you're talking about a republican or any candidate who is simply denying reality in the past and not accepting potential reality in the future, that's critical because that is at the core, as we all know, of our democracy. >> really important issues, but it sounds like they won't

governor ducey responding in a statement, "arizona has had enough.llegal, but war of words as mayor of el paso contradicted himself right here on fox news." the white house asked him to not declare an emergency at the border. yesterday on "american newsroom" in the com bennett september 27th. >> did the white house ask you to not declare a state of emergency? >> absolutely not. the chief of the border patrol, he does not support declaring the state of emergency at this point. our congresswoman chose not to do that and the county does not support that at this point. we may have to do that. there may be a point we have to do that, but at this point and the white house has asked at this point not to do that. be two el paso, city council met in joint jesse watters. listen to this. >> as much as the mayor says this is not a political iss issue, those comments would probably say otherwise. i hope in the future, we will definitely put the people of el paso first and take the politics out of it. >> carley: latest fox news poll shows border security is someth

outgoing republican governor ducey deuce moved more than 100 shipping containers to try to plug holesborder over the summer. a move that has landed his action in court. and that's where lake's constitutional plan would likely end up. >> tis this more political rhetoric or does this legally seem feasible to you? >> so i think this is a lot of political rhetoric and so i think what we're seeing is an effort to turn that rhetoric that has been used in the public discourse into something legally meaningful and i think that is where there are significant questions as to whether that will be successful. >> reporter: well, lawyers say never say never. legal experts have been surprised at the shift in the way courts have looked at immigration. now, if a governor, kari lake, is sketch on this, not just in po policy but in the courts, it would change the way courts view immigration and also, anderson, the very definition of what it means with america being the land of immigrants. anderson. >> appreciate it. >> cnn exclusive on theert to get two top former white house lawyers to talk their conve

because governor ducey has had enough. shipping containers topped with razor wire are illegal. they say the containers constitute a violation of federal law and a trespass against the united states. those things are harming federal lands and resources impeding the ability for the u.s. government to perform its mission. so, in other words, the state of arizona is doing what the federal government is not doing and now the federal government is saying hey, wait, those things are trespassing on u.s. government land. >> ainsley: why would that be illegal? >> brian: there is no reason. maybe the horny to do can't get across. couple of things they show you they many people to pass through. they should be embarrassed as if company is coming and afraid et container is going to look bad. like socks on the floor because your cousins are here. here is unbefore the statements we wanted to share with you on shipping containers. the myriad of federal agencies that claim jurisdiction on the southern border but do nothing to prevent the pu

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sense of context what is going on in arizona right now is that the current republican governor doug ducey signed a ban of abortion after 15 weeks with some exceptions and the attorney general also republican is trying to get that off the books, go back to 1901 and a law there would completely ban pretty much abortion except in the life of a mother. when that is at risk. so this is a completely opposite point of view. and the notion of a purple state is if you really look at the specifics and where most people are in this incredibly complicate and incredibly personal question, it is somewhere generally somewhere in the middle. which is that there should be liberties and abilities for women to do -- to have an abortion, but not necessarily unlimited when it comes to the viability of that pregnancy. again, it is very complicated but it is an issue that democrats have been pushing the whole notion of abortion because of the roe being rescinded. but you don't really hear a lot of specifics on how they want to do it when it comes to the any law of the land. >> dana bash. our chief political cor

what governor ducey has done is he has taken 60 shipping containers and put another shipping containertop of it and that makes 22 feet of structure. then on top of that he has put razor wire and he is filling in for thousand feet of missing border wall to stop people from coming into the country illegally. because that is why they built the border wall, to keep people out, right? >> ainsley: that's a fairly right. the department of interior's wrote him a letter last week saying this is illegal, you can't do this periods so he fired back and said the myriad of federal agencies that claim jurisdiction on the southern border but do nothing to prevent the public nuisance caused by illegal immigration and criminal activity exploiting of the border is quite frustrating to those that live, work, and recreate on that border and in our state. >> brian: trespassing on their own state's land according to the federal government which shows the full transparency we have concluded, they want the border open. they are pro gap in the wall. not only are they anti-wall they are pro nothing. so come one,

last week we told you the governor, doug ducey is refusing to comply with the biden administration order to stop such actions. and russian president vladimir putin is urging his government to cut through red tape and produce enough weapons and supplies for the war effort in ukraine. putin's regime is facing military production delays and mounting losses there and with that we are back to our top story as president biden tells his russian counterpart, vladimir putin, it would be a serious mistakes to use a nuclear weapon of any kind in ukraine. today's warning comes amid increasing concern over the prospect of the russians deploying a so-called dirty bomb and trying to blame the ukrainians, chief national security correspondent jennifer griffin has the latest tonight from the bengal. good evening, jennifer. >> good evening, bret. today's ukraine wants nuclear watchdog accused russia of preparing a terrorist act using radioactive waste stored at the zaporizhzhia power plant. the spent nuclear fuel could lead to an accident that would contaminate hundreds of square miles. >> russia would be

. >> looks like arizona governor doug ducey will not comply with the federal government call to remove double back shipping containers at the southern border. reinforced why the wires were put in place to fill gaps at the quarter. the grand canyon state, failed to authorize a construction contract to do exactly that. back in washington a group of house republicans in a letter to d.c. mayor muriel bowser urging her to veto to go bills passed by the city council. the bill would allow illegal immigrants to vote in local elections for the letter reads in part "the d.c. council has passed legislation that fundamentally violates american sovereignty done right in the nation's capital, this is the graceful episode in this district's history. a pair of setbacks for those challenging the student loan forgiveness program. first supreme coast justice amy coney barrett denied an emergency bid by a group of wisconsin taxpayers to halt the plan has dismissed an effort amongst growing concerns about the program's viability and ability to contain potential fraud. marianne rafferty live with a closer l

and she also has the support of governor doug ducey who is pretty popular out there and who runs then governor's association. they spent 10-million-dollar on this race. i this i for all the hand wringing about the republican party being divided and oh the wrong people in the primaries. it's actually happening on the democratic side. just this week you had the progressive caucus put out this ridiculous letter to joe biden asking him to deal with putin. to rethink our strategy in ukraine. they have nominated really extreme candidates fetterman and wisconsin with barnes on and on. kari lakes that magic spell on the media because she was one of them. they are not used to one of them running for office, let alone this conservative woman. they simply don't know what to do with her. she can anticipate their questions. she can give them as good as she gets. in addition to aping the question that she asks. she goes and deflects on to other areas and other issues? why? because she has the mic. she has the platform. she wants to tell arizonans what her solutions to the problems. when they ask a

governor greg abbott in texas, doug ducey, and ran desantis, and hit home for blue state democrats, so this problem has been elevated beyond one just for the border states. it's also something that's put democrats around the country on the spot about all the things that the biden administration has no answer for. neil: you know, talking about the midterms as well, there are what, 17 days away right now. and i try to follow the money where it's going, because it can have a lot to bear on the final results at least where those with the money are placing their bets. i notice in the case of the republican senate candidate in new hampshire, republicans are pulling money back from that race, assuming that he, you know, he's far enough behind that he doesn't have a chance. now, whether they're right on that, who knows. but i notice they're pouring a lot more money into the hershel walker senate race in georgia and into the dr. mehmet oz race in pennsylvania, thinking that both of those gentlemen have a good chance. what are you hearing on that front and where that money is going on both sides

i support governor ducey in trying to fill these holes in any way possible. want to finish president trump's wall. we plan to do that when i'm governor. but in the short term, let's get manager, a bare writer of some sort to -- barrier of some sort to cover these gaps. i'm glad the governor is fighting back. i continue to maintain that we will fight back every single day against joe biden and any democrat attack on the people of arizona as we try to secure our border. maria: we're also seeing these spikes in crime, kari. murder, attacks, burglar burglary all up across the country as a result of cashless bail. what's happening in arizona a, and what about the gotaways? do they find arizona as their first stop once they enter through texas? >> oh, crime is way up. murder is high, the murder rates in tucson, arizona, the highest they've ever been. the streets in some areas look like a zombie apocalypse with the homeless crisis that's being fueled by the fentanyl pouring across. we had an issue, narcan to an infant, two infants in the last month in the phoenix ar

. >> arizona governor doug ducey defying the biden administration by filling in more border wall gaps. >> shipping containers to help deter illegal immigrants. >> we have an invasion on our border. >> criminal back behind bars after pushing a man off a subway platform. the family calling him a menace being arrested two dozen times. >> no cash bail created a real problem. >> people are frightened. >> blitz, throws herbert. blocking, and the touchdown. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> ainsley: that's great song. never heard that one before. did you all see who sings that? >> brian: i like it. flo rida. >> ainsley: beautiful shot of pittsburgh. beautiful day a low of 48. it is the steel city. 300 steel related businesses there. it's the city of bridges. >> steve: that's why they call them the steelers. >> ainsley: 436 bridges. skyscraperrens state park. and they watch fox there. >> brian: do you recognize the other voice in this song? >> steve: walker hayes. >> ainsley: can i hear that. flo rida pairing up with walker hayes. who would have thought. >> brian: like a rapper country guy talk his way through songs.

that was governor ducey.the new york complaint and we hadn't done it in the texas hadn't done anything yet, they started sending them to new york. from texas in particular, over 3,000 migrants came here illegally are in new york city soon to be put in tents and norwegian cruise lines but we work out a deal to get a norwegian cruise line ship to go to the coast of staten island. you can imagine that. you're going to have -- i don't know what you are doing all day. as steve mentioned earlier in venezuela, these venezuelans heard $15 an hour by going down to florida and helping out. when it comes to what's happening at the border, you are losing the hispanic vote because you thought you were gaining it. your people have become more and more aware of it. sending these migrants into these blue states. it is now one of the top 4 issues of everyone's things to vote on this. >> ainsley: how are they able to get paid? >> brian: they've got a social security number. >> ainsley: you're not allowed to hire them. >> steve

time will tell but i'm also very encouraged by what governor ducey and legislators in arizona have continuedpush on, and same for indiana. you know, wisconsin, ohio have some signs of real progress in growth as well. and then importantly we've seen this issue really inform many of the primary races this year in states where there have been programs and where there's been legislation introduced in the past. but there simply hasn't been brought enough support. but this issue is really popped to the top of the list in many states, and partly so. i think in this next year or two we are going to see some more major gains. >> host: i agree with you and i think if you look at this as both of us the kind of veterans from this fight, some states started earlier on the journey, but now many states are expanding charter schools, looking at the essays, aggressively pursuing parental options, and states that ten ten years ago would've never considered are starting to do it. i think parents are the ones who made that happen. that's kind of the core element of the book that you trust parents over bureaucra

if governor ducey had run, we probably would have been picking up a senate seat there where we're notng to be getting a senate seat. same in new hampshire where governor sununu had run. those are two seats republicans aren't going to pick up. again here in georgia where i think governor kemp and brad raffensperger are probably going to sail to re-election fairly ea easily, you have herschel walker certainly going to go to a runoff i would expect, but candidate quality is a big problem there, and i certainly don't think he is qualified, and i think he has been a big problem, and he's a problem that donald trump, you know, gave the party, again, as he has with any number of candidates throughout. now, i certainly think because of the bad economy and the problems on -- the democrats have had this year, you're certainly going to see republicans gain the house majority and very maight well gain the senate but not in the numbers that we would have, but for donald trump saddling these poor quality candidates that he has, and i am very concerned about these election deniers, people like kari

do you think what the current governor, doug ducey has done, sending some of the migrants to washingtondo? would you continue that practice? >> dana, i'm going to have to disagree with you on figure. we have a million got-aways, people intentionally entering this country mainly through the tucson sector, and we don't know what their background is. there's a reason they're trying to get in unnoticed. it's because they have a criminal background. they're coming into this country. they've tracked down terrorists, people wanted for murder. you can go to the customs and border patrol site, we have murderers coming in, people with a rape record. you name it. >> let me just tell you that the stat that i just cited comes from the department of homeland security, less than 1% of migrants. i know you're using language like rapists and criminals and so forth. what i was asking about are migrants seeking asylum. i want to move on to another really important issue, particularly when it comes to your critical swing state of arizona. that is what happened in 2020. you called the 2020 election corrupt,

my governor, governor ducey, if it wasn't for them, we'd be in big trouble.ing up, united shoulder to shoulder with us to make our state, our county safer for our community absent the federal government. we're pushing forward with that. i stand with our governor. i applaud him for what he's doing, fulfilling his oath of office. this president, this congress has failed to recognize it, failed to engage and act on it. in fact, just the opposite. putting out false narratives. their completely absent when it comes to this border and many other issues in this country. americans need to stand up and change that, and that's going to come in a couple of weeks, hopefully. neil: they're saying you can't do that, i understand the reason for that and, obviously, to prevent as many from getting in, but has it worked? you know the numbers far better than i, sir, but has it worked? has it alleviated the number coming in? are we still looking at the same number illegally getting into this country? >> no, it does work. physical barriers work, neil. it's proven itself under ma

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doug ducey is a very popular governor, if he chose to run he would've walked into this rate and walkedway from the race. he didn't run because of trump. he didn't want to deal with trump because he is not an election denier. trump came in and endorsed blake masters. he is a non-politician, i believe it's healthy to have non-politicians run once in a while. he worked for peter to, a very -- peter to -- peter theil, a venture capitalist. >> he made some trump in comments that he wouldn't support mcconnell for leader. that's why you see money go in and come back out and then go back in. an interesting race in arizona is the governor's race. an open race. the lady running, the republican, is very interesting, she is a tv personality. she's gone full trump. she is trump and a skirt and i say that as i complement. she is probably going to win and she's leading the ballot out there. i think she's going to help masters win. if republicans win this one i think it's going to be an easy race. >> because it will tell you the way the winds going. >> it will tell you where were going. >> the second