duncan receiving that notification and confirming that he will indeed be there on tuesday?> well, fred, we've sort of been waiting for the moment when fani willis would actually go before a grand jury, present her case and seek what we expect to be charges against more than a dozen individuals. the fact that jeff duncan was summoned to testify on tuesday is an indication that willis is going to be using the grand jury ma that meets on monday and tuesday to present her case. sources say this is the grand jury presentation that could take up to two days. it's possible she could begin presenting this case on monday and move to additional witnesses like jeff duncan on tuesday. this is the clearest indication of the timing of when this is all going to happen and she is going to go forward before this grand jury and is going to seek charges. we expect her to seek charges against former president trump, but she's also been looking in this investigation at a number of his allies. she's been looking at the fake electors who convened in georgia and cast their ballots for donald trump

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we also will note geoff duncan is a republican.oris. >>> let's break down only of the key details in this case. the infamous call that then president trump made -- listen. >> so, look, all i want to do is this. i want to find 11,780 votes, which is >> -- overturn biden's 2020 win. this involves potential violations of state law. let's break it down. charges that could include election fraud, making false statements to state and local officials and even racketeering which willis previously used to prosecute gangs and even public school officials who oversaw a cheating scheme. here are some of the key players in all of this. of course, d.a. fani willis, the judge overseeing the grand jury, robert mcbernie. he's defended willis, but then blocked her from pursuing -- meantime you have secretary of state fred raffensperger who is on that call. the infamous find the votes call. he rejected donald trump's efforts and certified the results in the peach state not once, but twice. then there's rudy giuliani. he's accused of presenting bogus

you broke the story on your show with jeff duncan. and in the wake of that, shortly after that, the independent journalist george cheaty, who is an atlanta-based journalist, he tweeted out that he had been asked to appear on tuesday as well. we previously reported that he was subpoenaed, and now he is announcing that the date of that appearance will be, like lieutenant governor duncan, on tuesday. this is an interesting figure because he actually was a witness in 2020, december 2020, to the fake electors, the fake pro-trump electors meeting in the statehouse in atlanta in december 2020 as part of that trump-backed scheme to subvert the electoral college process. that might be a clue of one of the things that the grand jurors are going to hear. that is one of the many prongs of this investigation, the fake elector scheme. it will all come to a head presumably in the next few days. >> these notifications going out to witnesses to appear before the grand jury happening simultaneous to the former president making campaign stops there in i

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laura: duncan, do you agree with that?ause we know that pheu thai lost a lot of its votes to the move forward party. but now it is in government and it's got the support of the military behind it. that's a pretty powerful force, as we've seen, in thai politics. do you think we're going to be seeing pheu thai serving out the whole term? >> that is very unclear, because we could be entering a period of instability. there are all kinds of things likely to happen over the next couple of years. for example, the change in the current rule that allows the senate to have a kind of veto through the parliamentary vote on who gets to be prime minister. that expires in may of next year. so the possibility for some reorganization of the ruling coalition is very much there. it's not clear whether this government is really likely to be able to go to term. i mean, one of the big questions with a party like pheu thai is why do people vote for it? and, you know, as in other countries, people vote for parties for a variety of reasons. they d

, he called him a loser, warning that duncan, quote, shouldn't testify. trump also called the fulton county d.a. a, quote, phony and called the former d.a. very partisan and biased and unfair. all of that from the former president. paula, the lights are on, they're all inside. what is the latest there right now? >> reporter: and we are watching and waiting. the grand jury is still inside two hours after the courthouse usually closes. the judge who oversees this grand jury also still inside. he's popped his head out of chambers a few times to encourage reporters in the courtroom to just hang in there. so we continue to watch and wait while we do some reporting on exactly what has happened so far. among the witnesses that have gone before the grand jury are two former state lawmakers, both democratic former state senators went in to testify today. we expected they would be asked about a presentation they witnessed by rudy giuliani that was laden with conspiracy theories. moments ago the former lieutenant governor, jack duncan, will join us shortly. we know

duncan's testimony is part of that. generally how many other testimonies would be included in this final pitch to the grand jury before indictments are rendered? >> that very much depends on the individual case and how the prosecutor wants to or thinks he or she needs to present the case to the grand jury. there is no formula on that. it is giving the grand jury a complete picture of the case for the grand jury to base its decision on whether to indict or not. >> and marshal, you did a great job earlier just helping people understand the totality of this investigation. while it seemed like it began with the recorded conversation, plea, if you will, from the former president to the georgia secretary of state, it blossomed into so much more. can you once again kind of encapsulate all that this investigation has entailed? >> sure, fred. and there is a lot. as ben said, it's up to the d.a. to present the case how she wants to. in this situation she kind of has made it clear she's going to need two days. that's not so common

okay, duncan, just a minute. we've got left. do you think the next election in thailand will be on it? well, i'd certainly like to think so. right. it's going to get more and more difficult. but the cost to move forward has a number of problems, one of which they produce, but they couldn't even be dissolved enough to reinvent themselves. and you know, the whole point of the landscape wouldn't change. so it wasn't, that wasn't mentioned right now. it feels like the last slide, but it's really difficult to predict all things put on hold of next year or so. we've been in a very, very different situation before too long because it's suddenly done. now. certainly as we can never say that type politics as boring many things to all guests today for joining us. pennsaid to us or want to boot duncan mccaul, go and pass it param. yeah, and thank you to for watching. you can see the program again. any time by visiting a web site that's out, is there a dot com for further discussion to you as well. facebook page, that's facebook dot com, fo

and we know chidi and duncan, that gets us to seven.jury would hear from before they're done? >> that's our understanding. and to be truthful with you, nicolle, we don't have the reporting as to exactly who those three individuals are. this goes back to the heart of the grand jury proceedings are secret. district attorney fani willis has talked publicly here and there. but she has been very secretive about the plans for her presentation here to the grand jury. that is what is taking place now. the indictment or the charges that she intends to be filed, they have already been mapped out and planned. they are on paper here. and now this is part of -- the testifying of these witnesses, who have already testified to the special grand jury last year, they are now coming back as sort of the closing act to really help her make her last case to these new jurors who are part of this grand jury that this case is worth bringing against potentially donald trump and those more than potentially dozen allies. >> and because she's beyonce, of course sh

i spoke to michael buchanan — and a short time ago he told me more about what sir duncan nichol said. the countess of chester hospital in the summer of 2015 and the summer of 2016 when 13 babies died in unexplained circumstances. and we now know that the pediatricians at the unit, the neonatal unit, were raising concerns about what was happening. the board were not made aware of this problem despite the number of deaths being significantly higher than they usually were. but in the summer of 2016, they did become aware of it. and one of the things they decided to do at that point was to launch a series of external independent investigations to try and understand why these babies were dying. and none of these investigations would ever properly commissioned are properly completed. and they never got to the bottom of what was happening. but what what sir duncan nichol, the former chairman of said in a statement this morning, is that he feels that the board was misled by the by the managers of the trust and particularly refers to a document they were giving in december of 2016, in which he

. _ it is not stabilised. 0k, duncan, thank - it is not stabilised. 0k, duncan, thank you - it is notnk you for. it is not stabilised. 0k, - duncan, thank you forjoining us with your thoughts today. staying with china now, and the growing trade tensions between it and the us. it's being reported in the new york times that the biden administration is set to issue new restrictions on american investments in certain high—tech industries. nick marsh is in our asia business hub in singapore for us. what more can you tell us? that re ort what more can you tell us? that report described _ what more can you tell us? that report described as _ what more can you tell us? that report described as a _ what more can you tell us? twat report described as a new front in this economic war tween the us and china. i think that is a pretty good way of describing it, really. should we stress that the white house hasn't confirmed anything yet, the chinese haven't said anything on the matter either. but if these restrictions do materialise, they will be a kind of new turning of the screw in terms of how fa

duncan did testify in front of the special purpose grand jury. the fulton county grand jury wants to hear from him. the republican has been a harsh critic of former president trump. and while he was lieutenant governor, he was the president of the georgia state senate, the same state senate where former trump attorney rudy giuliani appeared in front of three times to spread election conspiracy theories and election interference lies. duncan has called those meetings unofficial and said they were unsanctioned and even gone so far to call them an embarrassment. listen to him last night on cnn. >> yeah. i'll be there to answer the facts as i know them and to continue this process of trying to discover what actually happened during that post-election period of time. certainly we can never repeat that as a country. certainly i never want to see that happen in my home state of georgia. a lot of good people's lives were uprooted. a lot of people's reputations have been soiled. >> reporter: duncan now one of three people to be subpoenaed by the fulton co

jeff duncan is testifying tuesday. if those are the only days the grand jury will be meeting next week, then all signs point to an indictment tuesday evening it will be announced. what will happen is they'll come out and then it will be unsealed and trump and his team and others will be notified and the public will know. probably by donald trump himself. he has a habit of letting people know when these things happen to him so you can expect that it's going to get really interesting next week, that's going to be the fourth of four cases against donald trump. as i said, i think the second most powerful one against him. >> it really is an unprecedented time seeing as he is the front runner for the gop nomination as it stands, just a few months before americans start voting in that primary race. it is quite a moment in american history. dave aronberg, thank you so much for your analysis, for helping us understand that better. we appreciate it. >> thank you. >>> still to come, much more analysis on the ramp up to a possibly

former georgia lieutenant governor and cnn contributor jeff duncan revealing to cnn today he will testify before a grand jury in just a few days. >> i did just receive notification to appear on tuesday morning at the fulton county grand jury, and i certainly will be there to do my part in recounting the facts. i have no expectations as to the questions, and i'll certainly answer whatever questions put in front of me and don't want to go any deeper than that to jeopardize or compromise the investigation. this is a story that is important for republicans to hear and americans to hear. let's hear the whole truth and nothing but the truth in donald trump's actions and the surrounding cast of characters around him. >> fulton county district attorney fani willis is expected to seek multiple charges against trump and his allays in the years' long investigation into the efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. we have defense attorney and former federal prosecutor shan wu for some legal analysis. great to have both of you. marsha, you set the scene for us. walk us through the significanc

to duncan to withhold or whatever. trump just doesn't seem to be able to help himself. >> reporter: this week's grand jury presentation the culmination of a sprawling two and a half year criminal investigation, covering trump's call to georgia's secretary of state brad raffensperger. >> i just want to find 11,780 votes, which is one more than we have because we won the state. >> reporter: to the fake electors to convened to cast illegitimate votes for trump and a voting systems breach in coffey county and former state senator bea wynn about conspiracy ridden presentations trump's attorneys gave before state lawmakers in december 2020. >> they had all of their witnesses that purportedly were telling the state legislators that they could basically choose the electors and could throw out the votes of millions and millions of georgians. and i wascy sitting there, i thought this can't be real. >> and also at the courthouse, a leading voice in abutting trump's election lies in 2020. >> there's no evidence of this conspiracy,

duncan is also a cnn political commentator.the son of the current president faces mounting legal troubles of his own, just yesterday the justice department appointed a special counsel to oversee the prosecution of hunter biden. joining us now to discuss all of this seung min kim from the associated press and laura barone lopez. great to see you both. laura, i want to start first with you. we see the former president campaigning. what are we expecting to see from him in the next few days as this goes on in georgia because now this would be a fourth indictment. he kind of has a playbook here. >> he does. he right away sometimes gets ahead of the indictment, especially if his team is notified of the details then he will often post on truth social ahead of it attacking the prosecutor in this case he would be attacking the faultening county district attorney fani willis and her entire team and saying it isn't true, this isn't something he's done and rallying his base around him and seen each time an indictment has dropped, the repub

former lieutenant governor, jeff duncan, appreciate your time.hank you. >> thank you so much, geoff. >> there are other big names in this indictment, 18 people listed in this outside of trump. some of the names you'll know, mark meadows, rudy giuliani. more on the charges including the rico law being used when our special live coverage continues. stay with us. oh, that's nice... oh!! searchable, verified reviewsws. that's betttter than the ham, and i'veve never said that. booking.com booking.yeah how can you sleep on such a firm setting? gab, mine is almost the same as yours. almost is just another word for not as good as mine. save 50% on the sleep number limited edition smart bed. plus, free home delivery when you add a base. shop now only at sleep number. (♪) astepro allergy, steroid free allergy relief that starts working in 30 minutes, while other allergy sprays take hours. with astepro's unbeatably fast allergy relief you can astepro and go! ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ get it with gurus. cargurus. ♪ >>> welcome back. you're looking at a full list of char

>> well, the interesting thing about these witnesses, and again, geoff duncan has been subpoenaed, and jen jordan who is a former democratic state senator, and george chiti who is a independent journalist and all who have testified before a grand jury have spent months and months of testifying and so there is a sense of what these folks will say if they are asked questions, and so what appears to be happening is that the district attorney is going to be happening is if we make this presentation before a grand jury what kind of voices can we use to build this narrative around what was happening whether it is a crazy presentations before the state lawmakers and whether it was the assembling of the fake electors or the republican fake electors in georgia and the witnesses can kind of speak to that. again, the question is timing. there are grand jurors who meet twice in fulton county, monday and tuesday, and the grand jury hears cases of murder and robbery yesterday. so it is unlikely to see the indictment today. we expect the presentation to take two days, and it could be earliest thursda

iain duncan rumbles on now. iain duncan smith has essentially said it's okay for people to vandalise cameras there or thereabouts . cameras there or thereabouts. what do you think? do you agree with that or not? and what is going on in this country when it comes to crime? the absolute state of people running around with machetes. i noticed as well at notting hill carnival, with machetes. i noticed as well at notting hill carnival , the at notting hill carnival, the number of stabbings that took place. some people say now it's time for that carnival to be cancelled. is it or not? and something i need to get off my chest tonight is something that happened to me on london underground a couple of days ago. i took to twitter to share it, describing the madman that threatened the innocent passengers on the tube, including me, who was with my son, a labour councillor is very unhappy with me , taking me to unhappy with me, taking me to task about using words like madman when describing a violent perpetrator of crime. i

george chidi, and duncan said they needed to show up tomorrow morning.t that they have gotten the seemingly sudden phone calls from the d.a.'s office telling them, actually, change of plans, get down here within the few hours and come testify today shows that they are moving more quickly than perhaps they anticipated. when we ask who george chidi is, he's a freelance journalist. why he's important to this case, though, he's somebody who unexpectedly discovered this meeting of georgia's alternate electors, the slate of 16 fake republican electors, meeting in the state capitol. he talks about a rather dramatic scene where he walked in. he was ushered from the room, told it was a meeting about education. but we do know that obviously the d.a. is going to present that as part of her evidence. it's something that she's looking into, the slate of fake electors. giuliani's presentation before lawmakers, before state lawmakers, we saw two of those state lawmakers complete their testimony early today. so, katy, what this is doing, all of this is giving us pieces

duncan, in your book, i want to go forward what you just said.s. in your book, searching for julia, you know that juliet dies because, in your words, quote, a series of bad decisions made by men, romeo kills tibet, which leads to his banishment. her father emotionally abuses her and accelerates her forced, bigamist marriage. these events prompt fryer lawrence's chaotic and ultimately derailed plan. this is not a typical reading of romeo and juliet. >> no, but i think it's a reading that shakespeare's first audiences would have understood. i think jeffrey's point is excellent, this is a love which is to be pursued or avoided? and for many reasons, shakespeare's first audiences would've understood this is a love which is to be avoided, they don't know each other, the families are not functioning at all well. in the elizabethan era, when shakespeare wrote the play, one of the markers, to be ready for marriage, you had to be behaving and thinking in functioning as an adult. since neither romeo nor julia's yet capable of behaving that way, they end up

one of those is former georgia lieutenant governor and cnn contributor geoff duncan. both of them have now been told that they need to appear before this grand jury today. obviously, this is an indication that this case is moving pretty quickly before the grand jury. we had expected this grand jury presentation to take up to two days. but again, she seems to be consolidating the days for these witnesses to appear. it's an indication that we could see indictments as early as later today. we don't know that. this could still take until tomorrow, but we certainly are going to be on high alert for any potential charges emerging today or tomorrow. >> sara, is there a time limit for that happening today? in other words, would it have to happen before close of business if it were to happen today? >> reporter: well, look, what we are expecting to happen is that whenever the grand jury hands up these indictments, whether it is today, whether it is tomorrow, that they will become public very quickly after that. so we don't exactly know, again, like when that is going to be, but

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you also have former lieutenant governor geoff duncan. he's very interesting because not only is he sort of involved in the case, but he's also someone it appears as those this investigation may have derailed his political career. he decided i don't want to run for re-election. how have people who were sort of involved in this who were elected officials, how has this affected them on the ground? are there other people should this indictment come down, they'll be stepping away from or leaning into state politics? what might the results be at the state capitol level there in atlanta? >> yeah, jason, i'm glad you brought up the former lieutenant governor because he just left the courthouse behind me after testimony before the grand jury. he wouldn't say exactly what he told the grand jurors but he did say the nation is at a pivot point, a turning point, and he said republicans should move on from donald trump. this is something we in georgia have heard for the last two plus years. he's a conservative republican, he was an ally of donald trum

, the former lieutenant governor geoff duncan of georgia.d that to cnn. but how do we expect things to unfold starting as soon as monday? >> we are going to have to wait and see on that point. you will say here that the fact that there is another load stone, another marker for former president trump's legal woes underscores the unique situation in this presidential cycle. there hasn't been a frontrunner president who has had so many indictments, so many lawsuits against him that he has to pay attention to as he is running for president, while also being the frontrunner in a major american political party's primary. so this is something that is going to be a factor and if you are donald trump, you really want to portray this as a, quote, unquote, witch hunt, as sort of a political maneuver by his opponents, and that's what we are going to be hearing from him in the coming months probably straight through the republican primary and perhaps through election day. >> yeah, we already heard him launching attacks on the fulton county d.a., calling

and we know that duncan, geoff duncan, and 75 other witnesses is have already testified before a special purpose grand jury. as someone familiar with all this, explain the process of getting you all of that information from the special purpose grand jury to this new one. how does that all work? >> great question. they don't have to put all of the information, every witness into the new grand jury. they just have to have enough information for the new grand jury to have the evidence in th they need to indict. sometimes what you do essentially read over the testimony from the prior grand jury into the new one. have someone literally read the transcript of what transpired in the other grand jury. the fact that they are calling live witnesses suggests to me they may have additional questions that came up during the course of their investigation. after all, the district attorney has been trying to negotiate, as you pointed out, some immunity deals of some of the fake electors. what they will be doing now, putting evidence in front of the grand jury. there is no other side there. there is no d

both of them, and indeed sir duncan nichol, say they will cooperate fully with the inquiry. sir duncan nichol and the former chief executive at the time, looking into how the trust handled the allegations against lucy letby. as i said, it was commissioned three years ago. we still don't know when it's going to be published. lucy letby isn't the first medical professional to use her training and uniform to deceive and manipulate colleagues and relatives — and to kill patients. here'sjoe pike. she is not the first nhs serial killer, and lucy letby is unlikely to be the last. beverley allitt, harold shipman and colin norris were all convicted of murdering their patients. and as with lucy letby, in each case, the authorities were asked, why weren't they stopped sooner? dr shipman targeted those who trusted him — elderly, vulnerable patients — and injected them with morphine. the bodies of nine of his victims were exhumed as part of the police investigation. he was jailed in 2000 and killed himself in prison four years later. she has been found with a quantity, that much, insulin

geoff duncan was one of those. the other one is independent journalist george cheatty, who has been tweeting updates in what appears to be the waiting area for witnesses testifying before the grand jury. he just sent another update saying that the grand jury appears to be chewing over what they learned so far today. and it's unclear if he's going to have to testify. so, i think what we're seeing is the district attorney's team moving pretty speedily through presenting a lot of this case before the grand jury and trying to determine, frankly, if they're going to be able to push the grand jury for a vote and to hand up indictments tonight or if this is going to spill over to tomorrow, anderson. >> so, george cheatty is sitting outside waiting to go in, not clear if he is actually going to be called. when would we get word that the grand jury has voted? >> reporter: essentially we will get word when papers leave the room the grand jury is meeting in and make their way into the courtroom of the presiding duj, robert mc

. >> duncan. duncan. >> [indiscernible] [screaming] [whistling] >> donald! hi, donald. [screaming] >> do you want i had signed by the president? i will get you the other one. [screaming] [indiscernible chatter] [chanting "trump"] [cheers] mr. trump: [indiscernible] we got iowa. [indiscernible] i just want to thank everybody for being here. we have some really special people, some of the most important congresspeople from washington, d.c., they came up to be here, and if they would i would like to have them come up and say a couple of words. come on up. [cheers and applause] >> [indiscernible] i'm am seeing the heads of the signs. 2016, 2020, 2024, we are going to make this [indiscernible] [cheers] >> [indiscernible] bring our country back. what do you say? [cheers] we had four great years, and now we have a disaster. this man right here will bring our country back. the caucus is on january 16. vote donald trump. [cheers] >> all right, iowa, let's do this again. this president secured our borders. this president took care of crime. this president had our economy on fire.

>> duncan found himself on the receiving end of republican fury.oded with calls from voters urging him to change the results of the election. >> i want to talk to brad raffensperger. i want to talk to this piece of [ bleep ] for not doing the right thing. this election was [ bleep ] stolen. >> we could feel the angst and the hate building in the air over nothing. over a mirage. over a shiny object to deflect from the fact that donald trump had lost the election fair and squarely. >> you could have very easily kept your mouth shut. not said anything. gone along. was all of this word it? putting it all on the line for the truth? >> the answer is absolutely it was worth it. >> the lieutenant governor found himself amongst the few willing to speak the truth, but he was not alone. disgusted by threats his election workers were getting from misled trump supporters, fellow georgia republican gabe sterling also became a vocal critic of the public lies. >> i remember we had our warehouse manager at our center for elections was taking the trash out. this is

in front of him. >> lieutenant governor duncan, you testified on that day. was your experience similar? >> no, it was very seriously. everything in that room, we really are at the center of the universe. everybody in the world cared about what was gonna happen in that meeting. the district attorney was very prepared, for the presentation. the jurors were very engaged, inquisitive, and spot on with their questions. it's one of the non attorneys at this table, i hear all the legal opinions about what's going, on the moving parts. this is a mess, politically speaking. this is another reason why we cannot make this mistake again, as republicans. this one is different. we've seen these other cases, these other federal cases, they seem to be getting more serious as time goes on. this one's got some really, really sticky political spots to, it for donald trump. i hope we take our medicine, if you like the starting to be some more gyrations. our candidates need to step up to the plate here. >> mark meadows, obviously, we talked about this a little bit last night, tr

smith. >> and so did iain duncan smith. >> and so did iain duncan smith. >> yes, course.of lots of things make lots of people angry. >> doesn't mean that >> but it doesn't mean that people the to break people have the right to break the law. >> and if you about this >> and if you think about this in reverse, you know, if this was if this was insulate britain or oil take doing orjust stop oil take doing similar would rightly similar things, we would rightly be so i condemn be condemning them. so i condemn all of those who break the law. and course, there is one big and of course, there is one big thing coming in may iain thing coming up in may for iain duncan constituents duncan smith's constituents and the million the other seven, 8 million people in london, which people who live in london, which is they have chance through people who live in london, which is thallotve chance through people who live in london, which is thallotve to chance through people who live in london, which is thallotve to decide through people who live in london, which is thallotve to decide whether

also appearing sooner than planned was the former lieutenant governor of georgia, jeff duncan.a republican and former trump supporter who broke with the ex president in 2020. earlier today, donald trump attacked duncan on social media, saying that he, quote, should not testify before the grand jury. trump also called him, quote, a nasty disaster for those looking into the election fraud that took place in georgia. when duncan we left the courthouse a little over an hour ago, he told nbc news that he thinks this moment was a pivot point for his pardon. >> i think it's important to tell the truth. i have to respond to my constitutional duty, and answer to the grand jury -- it's important for us as a country. we cannot forget exactly what happened. let americans decide. we will let america decide what's best for us. as a republican, this is a perfect point for us. this is a pivot point -- the pivot point is we need to get this party back in the right direction, and to do that, we're gonna have to go through tough stuff. >> joining us now from the fulton county courthouse is nbc ne

smith. >> and so did iain duncan smith. >> and so did iain duncan smith. >> yes, course.of lots of things make lots of people angry. >> doesn't mean that >> but it doesn't mean that people the to break people have the right to break the law. >> and if you about this >> and if you think about this in reverse, you know, if this was if this was insulate britain or oil take doing orjust stop oil take doing similar would rightly similar things, we would rightly be so i condemn be condemning them. so i condemn all of those who break the law. and course, there is one big and of course, there is one big thing coming in may iain thing coming up in may for iain duncan constituents duncan smith's constituents and the million the other seven, 8 million people in london, which people who live in london, which is they have chance through people who live in london, which is thallotve chance through people who live in london, which is thallotve to chance through people who live in london, which is thallotve to decide through people who live in london, which is thallotve to decide whether

what jeff duncan said is exactly right. credit to him for standing up and testifying, but as far as political analysis is concerned, there is a reason he is a former lieutenant governor of georgia. he was a rising star in the party, he did the right thing and he did not try to primary herschel walker for that senate seat because most republicans, not all, but most are still with donald trump. they are defending him on these indictments. they believe his lies about the election and there is not really a place in the party for people like jeff duncan, unfortunately. >> there is a great article that peter baker wrote in the new york times. i think we are somewhere up above 90 counts total. here is part of what he writes. it is, quote, the accumulated indictments are kind of white nose for voters. he conducts weekly focus groups with voters. he says they cannot tell the difference between georgia and jack smith because it all blows together in one long new cycle of trump in trouble. is there a way for that noise, that confusion

we're joined by the former republican lieutenant governor of georgia, jeff duncan. he's also a cnn political commentator. thank you for joining us. the president says the sweeping orders violates his first amendment rights. do you think he could threaten -- >> i think everything is on the table. even the communication in the last 48, 72 hours he's put out seem ererratic, unmoored from truth. there's similar hall marks i'm watching play out in the last few days that bring me back to a terrible place, the lead-up to january 6th, just a continuous deluge, and feverish pitch through social media posts. >> cnn has learned you received a subpoena to testify before a fulton county grand jury investigating trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election in georgia. will you commit to testifying? >> yeah, i'll be there answer the facts as i know them and to continue this process of trying to discover actually what happened during that period of time. certainly we can never repeat that in this country. a lot of good people's lives were uprooted. a lot of people's reputations we

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jeff duncan.onald trump took to his social media account to say he's reading reports that the failed lieutenant governor of georgia will be testifying before the fulton county grand jury. trump goes on to say he shouldn't and then he goes onto launch a number of other attacks against duncan. again, this grand jury presentation is expected to take up to two days. of course we're going to be on high alert for any potential indictment announcements today or tomorrow. and this is a sprawling case. this has been a 2 1/2 year investigation that was set off when donald trump made that phone call to brad raffensperger and pressed him to find the votes for trump to win the state of georgia. it's gone onto include the fake elector scheme, an harassment campaign against election workers as well as a voting systems breach in georgia, sarah. >> all right. thank you for all of that. i appreciate it. john? >> just a reminder, these were the election results in georgia in 2020. this was the margin between the two

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we should note, duncan is also a cnn political commentator.n indictment could come in this case at any moment. cnn political correspondent sara murray joining us now. and we know that several other witnesses to the president's attempt to overturn the results in georgia have already been called by the fulton county district attorney. in addition, including people on the phone call where the president asked to fine the votes necessary to overturn. why would jeff duncan be significant now as a witness? >> sure. you know, i think jeff duncan is an important voice in terms of his public criticism of donald trump's efforts to over turn the 2020 election. we talked to him extensively for a documentary and he said that he was really embarrassed to see rudy giuliani, trump's former attorney as well as this other band of trump acolytes show up in georgia from the state senate and give this presentation to the lawmakers and at the time the lieutenant governor was the president of the georgia state senate and he said he didn't sanction those meetings ahea

when you get into that space with judge duncan you people that never have learned to think criticallynd debate only how to shout and to grant some out. people like the dei dean got suspended enabling that behavior. >> where do we go from here? i take again, again taking for example, at stanford where the dean was ultimately suspended. is that the countertrend in a positive direction? you see more of that happening, what is the course that we are following what should we do now? >> i see the trend, to me it mimics trickle down, seeing a lot of good positive change tactic that the trustee level, administrative level but not make an impact on the day-to-day life on the students within the classroom or in the general campus to experience. at chapel hill, who happens is indicative of what happens elsewhere. ever since you had that fiasco with jones rejecting -- initially given her tenure, they have done somewhat of about facebook they have approved a school of civic leadership and free expression, and asked, after a syrian government decided no money to pro-life groups, the trustees came o