you have the peaceful revolution in east germany. all these dramatic changes. changes of the lives of east berliners, europeans, dramatically more life choices all of a sudden. from the ground up i saw this picture of change. but when i looked from the the top down, i didn't. the predominate cold war security organization in the cold war was nato. and now in europe, predominant security organization is still nato. the european community existed before. it renamed itself european union but basically existed afterwards. what surprised me was this mismatch between the dramatic change from the ground up and the perpetuation of cold war institutions into the post-cold war era. indeed, perhaps the biggest surprise for me, i realize we saw, of course, in cold war europe this clear dividing line between eastern and western europe. this was obviously the warsaw pact over here. the fact russia got left on the periphery -- i now mean russia not the soviet union -- with nato expanding into eastern europe means there's basically a dividing line, it just got moved eastward. i

there was an existing treaty between hungary and east germany and the hungarians at first respected itbut then hungary decided to let east germans leave as well and they flood out in mass numbers. this is a photo from the east german secret police archives. this is a photo of abandoned vehicles. they had to go down the vehicles and collect these. people waited as long as 16 years to purchase these vehicles. and so abandoning it was quite a dramatic statement and there were so many of them the secret police had to collect them at depots such as this one in czechoslovakia. this was a massive exodus. and it tested even the people who were at home. some of the people who had stayed home had to justify staying at home. indeed the phrase stay at home was a term of insult. so suddenly this massive exodus where east germans would go down into hungary, cross the border in austria and come back up to east germany threatened the existence of the east german ruling regime itself which they anticipated would not be case. the east german ruling regime took a series of steps that ultimately culminate

morning told him that the communists had finally begun to seal the berlin sector border against east germanyall along the 25-mile border between east and west berlin. >> telephone lines to west germany are cut. the flood of refugees is dammed up. west berlin is isolated. ♪ >> communist country like east germany cannot exist with an open border. it must be able to wall its people in and make them work until communism succeeds. >> president kennedy decided on thursday to send johnson to berlin because mayor brant had written a letter warning that the city's rotting morale required bold and quick treatment. >> and the united states wants you to know that the pledge he has given to the freedom of west berlin and to the rights of western access to berlin is firm. >> ask -- is khrushchev entirely convinced that our words have meaning? if he is not, what can we do short of war to convince him that they do? >> 1,500 american soldiers arrived in west berlin after a 110-mile road trip across east germany. soviet person radio described the forces as a challenging military act. >> the berliners know tha

and for much of east germany loyalty was the popular choice but then thanks to the hungarians exit becameto close its own borders to prevent any further exit and since exit then moves to longer an option and loyalty no longer seemed a good option voice became the dominant option and the number of protests and the size of protests was increased dramatically throughout east germany most notably in the cities of dresden. since the media was under censorship, any images had to be smuggled out. and the east german regime realizing that it created a new monster essentially planned a tiananmen square event on the night of october 9, 1989 in the city of leipzig. there was distribution of machine guns with bullets. just the level of preparations for a bloody and violent event on october 9, 1989, in leipzig. and that event might have happened and we might talk about the two tiananmens in 1989 but for the fact that the demonstrators in leipzig behaved in two unexpected ways. their numbers were massive. their numbers were over 100,000 and they were peaceful and nonviolent and deployed troops instead

there was an existing treaty between hungary and east germany and the hungarians at first respected itbut then hungary decided to let east germans leave as well and they flood out in mass numbers. this is a photo from the east german secret police archives. this is a photo of abandoned vehicles. they had to go down the vehicles and collect these. people waited as long as 16 years to purchase these vehicles. and so abandoning it was quite a dramatic statement and there were so many of them the secret police had to collect them at depots such as this one in czechoslovakia. this was a massive exodus. and it tested even the people who were at home. some of the people who had stayed home had to justify staying at home. indeed the phrase stay at home was a term of insult. so suddenly this massive exodus where east germans would go down into hungary, cross the border in austria and come back up to east germany threatened the existence of the east german ruling regime itself which they anticipated would not be case. the east german ruling regime took a series of steps that ultimately culminate

these a abandoning it was such dramatic statement and they had to collect them and bring them east germany. it tested even the people who were at home. many people who stayed home had to justify staying at home. home became ay at insult. so suddenly this massive exodus where east germans would cross austriaer and through .nd up through west germany took at german regime series of steps that you wouldty culminating. east germannse, the ruling regime demonstrated the of albert hershman. you can find someone way to exit find so some way to protest quiet and be loyal. loyalty had been a popular choice. hungarian.undre they decided to close their own borders. since exit then was no longer an option, voice became the dominant option and the number of protests and size of protests .ere increased the media was still under events had to be smuggled out. interviewed basically former smugglers who used to smuggle them out to the west so it could make it to eastern who could broadcast soback to eastern european they could see it. event on thean night of october 9, 1989. biggest surprise of my research

east german refugees in prague and warsaw, the wait is over. the 3500 people who sought asylum in the embassy in prague along with the 650 in warsaw would be allowed to leave for west germany tonight. east german trains will transport them without stopping across east german territory to the west. >> in the end, the refugees succeeded in enforcing their direct immigration. the ambassador brought them all to the station. he had not slept for 48 hours. >> it was a very strange feeling. suddenly i missed all the refugees. it sounds weird, but i was no longer used to the empty embassy . >> but that change very soon. more refugees followed. >> the embassy filled up again with thousands of refugees, and then the wall opened up. >> collecting donations to protect little tiger babies is easier than coming up support to save vultures. the less cute and animal, the less sympathy, and vultures have suffered from a bad reputation for years. bane and particularly the pyrenees in the north are home to europe's biggest population, but the birds are under threat. >> when they start to circle, you know death is not far away. >> vultures are fantastic nerds. they play an important role in n

twelve new nato members all east of east germany so we read a wee wee welsh it's sort of ironic we're having the next nato summit early september with the welsh and wales you know and some seem to be entirely appropriate we well just on our promise and that's the seeds of this current conflict will last long as people from wales and so that's a simple i go it's a slur my mother is well but you know the last thing is that two thousand and eight under george w. bush. there's a there's a great cable that was released by wiki leaks courtesy of bradley manning and it's a cable from our ambassador in moscow bill burns and the title is net means net what happened lover of the foreign minister then and now called the ambassador in and said look we hear rumors that you're going to try to cooperate ukraine into nato and look we have means and yet no way are we going to tolerate this so burns reports this back to washington february of two thousand and eight april three two thousand and eight nato ministers nato and nato summit really top leaders in bucharest rumania decides nato to ukraine and

speaking to government sources, east germany said the latest allegations will at you'll to these already tense relations between the countries. but ocarina is good it -- ankara is good at maintaining relations. i think there will be an attempt to put a lid on it and the prime minister would use these allegations as further evidence for -- the germany's having bad faith toward their government. >> tense relations indeed. thank you very much for that update. before these latest accusations of spying on turkey, it was revealed that the bnp had also spied on u.s. politicians like hillary clinton. talked about that with patrick, a member of the christian democrats and head of the ministry investigating the spy scandal. when asked if there was any difference between the german agency and the nsa. >> we cannot say yet if there is a difference. we are still doing our inquiries to what the nsa has done in germany, what kind of intelligence, so there is no time yet to compare. as we see we need our own intelligence in regions where we have conflicts, and that is what we are focused on now. what ha

so you've also said that you want to dissent french interests in the east germany what are those french interests or chairman policy is infringing upon. crystal let things be clear i am not a demand of fire on this one make any sense i cannot be mad at germany for defending their interest i simply find that their interests are divergent from ours is that simple i criticize the french leaders for not defending france's interests and for defending germany's interests for example in the case of the euro we can see that the euro was created for and by germany the euro is custom tailored but in a way that fits only germany and not any other country of the european union what would. i want something tailored for me and for this i want a national currency is specially since currency is a part of sovereignty that one currency one country this is the way that ninety five percent of the countries in the world function by the way if tomorrow we go back to our national currencies german marks would be overvalued compared to the euro our new francs would be devalued compared with the euro and went d

the relationship between germany and russia is very strong remember engine of merkel grew up in east germany at a time when it was part of the soviet empire there putin was a k.g.b. k.g.b. officer stationed in germany he speaks german she speaks russian they they've got a lot going on in terms of the north stream pipeline i mean there's no more kind of natural lines in the world than germany russia germany is a technological powerhouse russia is a natural resource powerhouse germany's the natural resources russian is the technology so that's kind of a match made in heaven so the merkel is going to do what she has to do publicly she's got to go along with the president barrack bear in mind obama is the one who tapped her phone not putin so so that i think the german russian connection is very strong but there's a little bit of posturing up but i think europe will do as little as possible now and harrison has been telling me to watch italy with its terrible demographics high debt load in zero growth as a key battleground in europe so why does it even matter. well it only matters that it is one

krauthammer on this program said if you built a border fence like they did in east germany -- did you ever see the east german fence? >> i was there for the east german fence. >> nobody could get through that fence. nobody. it was a formidable obstacle. the israelis have done the same thing to keep terrorists out there. we haven't done that. that's mistake number one. mistake number two is in this current situation in the rio grande valley, you would put national guard there to stop the madness just as you stopped the madness in the rodney king riots and other things. i believe it is political that obama didn't do it. the elder bush didn't do it, the younger didn't do it. clinton didn't do it. >> we put 6,000 national guard on the border. >> temporarily. >> for two years. >> that's true. >> while we added in the process, 6,000 additional border patrol. we didn't take them off until we replaced them. >> that's true. wait, wait. let the folks digest this. the guard stopped it in other sectors where it was out of control. don't give me this the guard won't work business. where's the wall

one of the things that is interesting to me, if you look at a case like axel springer or east germany as a great case to look at. google actually went to the european court of human rights. that is instead of the european court of justice. they filed this saying their human right of being able to provide the information and they are being restrained, where would that court come out in balancing all of these different rights. i actually think that if they are looking at 16-year-old financial data and given the criteria that they have articulated, one of the m being is it a comp tradition to a debate of general interest -- a contribution to the date of general interest? that is a fairly controversial statement that there is a good basis for it. >> i think there is a lot of unknown implications in this case. i agree with david. it was a narrow decision that opens up a lot of different questions. we can spend the next hour debating that. we are all about advancing practical business practices around data privacy. our initial impulse was this will be complicated. it is now the law. i think

cold war and we were right on the border and when i looked across that border, we saw people in east germany. and it dawned upon me and we saw several people that tried to get across the border and we could do nothing until they got across and some of them were actually killed. and so it was -- i realize that i grew up in a free country and i grew up in a wealthy family and i was given all of this. and i said that i missed my shot at college. yes, i graduated, but i certainly could have done better and i said i'm going to start applying myself and that is the whole reason i'm not over there and i'm over here, just because i was bored in america, and i never forgot that. [applause] >> what did you learn from reading that book? >> i learned a lot of things about my ancestors that i didn't know. [laughter] somebody asked me one time and they said what do you think about what your ancestors did and obviously he wasn't going to condone it. [laughter] >> what story have you heard since the book was published? >> well, there's a lot. a lot of stories. someone started a "factory man" discussion grou

since he's taken the office he's pivoted more to the middle east. germany is really pushing back so he's taking a look east. they were friends with syria. they were friends with syria and bashar al-assad. he is opposed to kurdish autonomy now he's changed the view. using turkey's appliance, turkey is now allied with hamas, look less towards the west and more towards the east, so we'll have to see what turkey does with that. we just don't know how he's going to do it. >> tell us about how the economic clout has grown sense erdogan has come to power. >> turkey's trade is mostly with the west, he could join the european union in time, he didn't realize the opposition he has come up against for that. as a result they really pivoted towards trade with the west and turkey really built up its economy. it's pivotal. the turkey has been ottoman or byzantine empire. you could have breakfast in europe and dinner in asia. it's a strongish economy but he's made missteps in his direction toward the east and as such it's not clear how much more turkey is going to grow. it

tens but hundreds of billions of dollars to be able to to do what happened with what we saw in east germany but there you had the germans who were just pumped in huge amounts of money and no one is ready to do that city ukraine so they're just they're just shaking it up and open to us last one mr croes just saying case let's just say hypothetically have says yes we're going to block that that that gas pipelines russia's gas pipeline via trade what do you think they will do will they back this. well this would be excellent news because that would source you to stop playing games with the situation and to get serious when you go to do over eighty steals you've got to realize that the region would hold up maybe forty eight hours without she courts and the west show here freedom of action is very limited and if they push it to a crisis well that might end some misery for the people street ukraine crowe's we're going to leave it right there thank you very much for your analysis a political risk analyst of the arab crows sharing some of his insights on what's going on there with those possible sa

cooney, kgb officer stationed in east germany during the war must follow the war very closely. i don't think he learned any lessons. i think that he looks at it from a technician's standpoint. if only we were smarter spies we could have run certainly from his handling of chechnya. i don't see someone who is trying to diffuse islamist sentiments. he is trying to do to the islamists in chechnya with the soviet union tried to do to the afghan people in afghanistan. drive them out of the country or kill them or so intimidate them that they will except russian authority. i think in the long run that is not going to work. it is interesting. in his first statement he identified two enemies, russia and america. >> already an indication. particularly in the younger cohort. this has been a terrific conversation. want to make three points. a sky has written a book. please get it. buy it. that will be available right outside. second, we have all lot of good conversations. this one was distinctively a good conversation because of the degree of knowledge and expertise and experience that was

east. britain, germany, and france issued a joint declaration urging israel and hamas to stop firing rockets across each other's borders. but so far, no word on any movement toward making that happen. medical crews in gaza data through the rubble of a mosque and retrieved bodies. the mosque was leveled by an israeli airstrike. the crisis overseas has triggered an investigation in montgomery county. benny fisher says he received death threats after hanging an israeli flag outside his restaurant. police are now going through his phone records. the suspect could be charged with a hate crime. police in prince george's county had to cut a man from his car after a bad wreck in bowie. earlier tonight along route 50 and 301. a man was taken to the hospital with serious injuries also right now in prince george's county, a man fights for his life after being hit by a car. police tell us the man was trying to cross university boulevard at new hampshire avenue at 6:00 this evening. this was in langley park. the driver of the vehicle remained on the scene. police are not sure whether the man was in the c

. >> east germany, and merckle from east germany understands russian. people together can hammer out something. i believe that. that's the hope this does not devolve into bloodshed more than it has, but if you sell off for russia, you know you have to recognize there could be, like that, if merckle makes the right phone call. >> see if that happens. meantime, s&p 1914 here, and bob is on the floor. hey, bob. >> jim's right. you talked earlier, jim, it's not just the ukraine. europe was ugly today and has been for a month right now. italy slipped into recession here, decline in gdp for the second quarter, 0 preponderate 1% in the first quarter, two consecutive quarters in decline of gdp, and look, italy's down, germany, portugal, greece, ugly for a month. the four-week numbers, put them together, thank you, kristin, for doing this, greece down 10 %, italy down 9%, spain, you get the idea. this is a continuation of a trend, did not just all the sudden start today. the s&p's only down 3% in that same period. this is causing flight to safety in the united s

one of the things that is interesting to me, if you look at a case like axel springer or east germany as a great case to look at. google actually went to the european court of human rights. they filed this saying their human right of being able to provide the information and their -- and they are being restrained, where would that court come out in balancing all of these different -- i actually think that if they are looking at 16-year-old financial data and given the criteria that they have articulated, one of the being is it a comp tradition to a debate of general interest -- a contribution to the date of general interest? that is a fairly controversial statement that there is a good basis for it. >> i think there is a lot of unknown implications in this case. was a narrow decision that opens up a lot of different questions. we can spend a lot of time tweeting about what those indications are for the united states. we are all about advancing practical is this practices around data privacy. our initial impulse was this will be complicated. it is now the law. i think it is obvious, ce

tom now are you great this is really a stone you know i mean this looks like something out of east germany how the are east berlin how did how did our police forces get weapons of war well what's happening in ferguson tom is just a snapshot of a new militarized police culture that's sweeping through small towns all over the south in a big way now and not just the south but certainly the south in a big way what we're seeing is the advent of the dixie land commando police force that at first appearance it's almost it's almost humorous almost like a barney fife kind of humor if it wasn't so tragic it might be funny militarize toys of war simply don't belong in the hands of police in a town with a population of twenty thousand people tom in the small town police forces shouldn't be encouraged to be too quick themselves or to play dress up in commando don't inject outfits arming themselves with bear cat armor tactical war vehicles or assault helicopters. twenty two ton mine resistant attack vehicles but that's what's going on paramilitary equipped small town police have a way of taking a fergus

experience -- i started reading your book and you cite, as a follow-up to the berlin wall, going into east germany and you mention that what you saw there kind of shook your world view. and i'm curious, i'd like to hear more about that. if that is an example that you yourself, cite of a soldier who somehow sees something that changes their whole signed of internalized paradigm. >>... the question, sir? >> the questions are two-fold. the first question is, given the way that the american military towards the end of the vietnam war pretty much came close to disintegrating, is there any analog for that here in the ninth year of what used to be called the global war on terror. and the second question he was asking me to expand on some person reflection at the beginning of the book. question number one: that was the vietnam that i served in. toward the end of the war. i served 1970-'71. and the army was disintegrating. terribly undisciplined. probably the worst expression of that was soldiers trying to assassinate their leaders. but, there was widespread abuse of drugs. there was also most an unbelieva

the communist government in east germany started sealing off entrances to the west with bashed wire. barrier would eventually stretch for 30 miles. historians said 80 people died to trying to escape from east to west. the wall would finally come down after almost three decade, but east berlin started to close the iron curtain 53 years ago today. when news breaks out, we'll break in, because breaking news changes everything on fox news channel. "your world" with neil cavuto starts right now. >> gotten to the point where our school system is overwhelmed. >> we're concerned that this is going to have a strain on our school system. >> that was the question i gave secretary johnson, was can you at least give us the area so we can prepare these schools and prepare everyone, and he said, no. >> get ready, get set, get hopping. welcome. with some schools set to open just days from now, 63,000 illegal immigrant kids the government says better be enrolled when they are, quoting this misssive from the department of outside indication, all children in the united states are entitled to equal acces

iraqi invasion of kuwait, east germany. afghanistan which had been one or two on president reagan's priority list went down to maybe number 50 on president bush's priority list. >> charlie: bush 41. yes, it disintegrated into civil war and became broken. >> charlie: to look at the movie or read george crowell's book, you get the impression this was part of the warning and admonishment of charlie wilson. >> it was. >> charlie: we're abandoning this place and it's going to be disastrous. >> i think charlie wilson's war is a great book and a better movie, puts a too much importance on a texas congressman but -- >> charlie: a very interesting one. >> yes. >> charlie: pakistan and osama bin laden, tell me what you know. >> what i know for sure is that osama bin laden arrived in pakistan within a week after the soviet invasion. the soviet invasion takes place christmas eve 1979. osama bin laden shows up there within a week or so. before the first c.i.a. arms and money even arrive, he starts off as basically a fundraiser for the m

the police look good combined with efforts of crowd control that seem more like something out of east germanyn out of the united states of america, rubber bullets, stun grenades, stuff we just don't see in the united states because most police departments are trained better to deal with protesters in a way that diffuses conflict rather than escalate it is. that's what we have seen here. last night was perhaps the worst night ever. worst night so far. we'll see if the governor of missouri, who has been basically mising in action, and the president of the united states, who appears to be on the vacation from hell, what either of them are going to do about it. >> and then we don't often see the arrest of a "washington post" reporter who is at work at a laptop at a mcdonald's. >> i left that out. >> this has been troubling. we do these jobs every day and rarely have this sort of thing. we have been wrapped up in circumstances where we could have swept up with the action, but this was an unusual circumstance. i want to move you towards the facts. that's been a big problem all along. loads of peopl

and so, the same thing happened in east germany. the parra troopers would not shoot into the crowd. >> i have a question relighted to what you said. when we talk about the annot a my of revolution we need to talk about the anatomy of the counterrevolution, and we're talking bat man who was an abolitionist and the great letter toicas of the revolution, we have a slave-holding republic. how is it that u.s. -- not colony but u.s. forces did fire on rebels in the rebellion, in the upridings, in the -- upizing, in the federal between the declaration of independence and the rising of the constitution. thomas paine supported the banks getting paid. he was against the mobs. he said, you get change by rule of law or by the military or by the mob, and he was on the side of the law. our laws come out of that period. i'd love you to address the anatomy of the counterrevolution. >> well, the thing to remember about paine was that in pennsylvania, there was no divide between whig and torii. the pennsylvania elite were wholly on the side of the br

and so the same thing happened in east germany. gone within a week because the paratroopers would not shoot on the crowd. >> it complex to that question completely unrelated to what you just said. the anatomy of revolution and the counterrevolution and how if we are talking about a man who was an abolitionist and a great irritation of the revolution we end up with a republic. how it was that the u.s. -- not colonial, but u.s. forces did fire on rebels in shays' rebellion and the uprisings. in that time between the declaration of independence and the writing of the constitution. thomas paine supported the banks being paid. he was against the mob. he said you get changed by the rule of law or the military or the mob. he was on the side of the law. our laws come out of that time. i would love you to address the anatomy of the counterrevolution >> the thing to remember was that in pennsylvania there was notified between way and tory. the pennsylvania elite were wholly on the side of the british monarchy. the pennsylvania assembly back

it's happening in ferguson right now sounds more like something out of north korea or the old east germany and from twenty first century america it's mind boggling that in any town in the united states today police can take near total control and told members of the press to leak more importantly why is there no protest from members of the press right now it's easier for a big network to a better reporter with isis or another terrorist group than it is the coverage of what's really going on in jefferson desert where we just chose to accept that sometimes a hyper militarized police state is ok and the summons for it in the press can just be tossed aside let's rubble. joining me for tonight's liberal or horace cooper conservative commentator and senior fellow the national center for public policy research and patrick hedger policy director with american on core if they make over this ok you heard my intro on this. earlier c.n.n. captured a ferguson police officer referring to the protesters as animals at this club. they're not this are we caught on camera even to his rage calling protesters

and the same thing happened in east germany. gone within a week because the paratroopers would not shoot on the crowd. >> a question that is completely related to what you just said. insofar as we're talking about the anatomy of revolution many to talk about the anatomy of a counterrevolution. if we're talking about a man who was an abolitionist and the great revolutionary we end up the sleeve of the republic. how it was the u.s., not colonial, but u.s. forces did fire on rebels in shay's rebellion in the uprisings against-. in that time between the declaration of independence and the rising of the constitution. thomas paine supported the banks getting paid. he was against the mob. he said, you changed our rule of law or the military. the analogy to address the counterrevolution. >> the thing to remember, in pennsylvania there was notified between away again tory. the pennsylvania elite were wholly on the side of the british monarchy. the pennsylvania assembly back the property costs. and so on like in the other colonies the opp

fast forward to two thousand and seven there had been ten new nato members created all to the east of germany ok now you have two thousand and seven putin is allowed to make a major speech at the munich security conference he we versus the ration of doctrine which was incidentally responsible for the invasion of czechoslovakia exactly in one nine hundred sixty eight on this day he reverses that and he warns look you have to take darshan national interests into account what happens that was two thousand and seven two thousand and eight lavrov the foreign minister now and then color ambassador in and said look we understand we understand this is early february two thousand and eight we understand that nato is about to issue a declaration weaving georgia and ukraine into nato nihad to means and yet understand that violates our national security will not allow it that was early february really weigh in on hang on hang on raised it with a side of history what about three years and a few minutes in a few. lines here martin let me go to you kind of. off of some of the things that we just heard from