not in eddie murphy, not a bill cosby. you have white people who can say, i want is now. you are not going to have that, because there is nobody who wants to take a pioneer -- the pie. >> i see a bunch of silliness in the black sitcoms that are out there, but "good times"found a way to enlightened people and entertain people all while entertaining. there is more cultural commentary, the paintings on your set --there is more commentary in "good times"than all the black stuff that is out there today combined, but you were able to do that while being entertained. >> we had thought leadership, and you cannot do that today. you cannot do what we did, because norman got away with stocks. you could not do those. tavis: too politically incorrect? >> too politically incorrect. when kospi came on, people said, we need something to counter show, so theyosby got a great writer -- he happens to be black, but he is a great writer, and they said, write us a counter thespiece. they said, we cannot do this, and they waited until people got fired, and the last people said, we are doing it,