lawrence lee, al jazeera, edinborough. >> one point has to do with membership in the european union.any favoring membership in the european union but some members aren't so sure they would welcome scotland with open arms. you delivered that in a paper back in the summer, arguing that the eu should not take such a harsh view of scottish potential membership should it become independent. >> exactly. i think at the end of the day, once we get into the negotiation period of 18 months after a yes vote on the referendum, if that in fact happens thursday, is that the european union will increasingly see that it's to its benefit to actually have scotland remain in the european union. remember, scotland is in the european union now as part of the eunt kingdom. it is-d united kingdom. a substate of an existing member state wants to stay in the union but as an independent state. that's new stuff. it requires imaginative thinking, a smooth transition, as smooth as possible so that the scottish people who are eu citizens right now, can continue to be eu citizens beyond the statehood day in 2016.

edinborough, a young city toward tend there. two indices to look at.h identity, and age as a clue to which councils may vote no. we don't have any numbers yet. >> we don't, jeremy. thank you very much. hopefully we'll have some soon. we mentioned falkirk. the terrain of former westminster campaign chairing the yes campaign. let's go there now. >> thank you, hugh. as you heard from sarah earlier on. dennis was a labor mp, quite a rebel i don't say one. he's moved all the way over to chair the campaign. why did you make the journey? >> i was brought up in the labor party. i was the leader in westminster for 26 years. followed by eight years as an independent member of the scottish parliament. you have time to think. i have come to the conclusion that westminster is completely out of touch with the with people of scotland. the scottish parliament responds more effectively, more positively to the wishes, the needs and the aspirations of the people of scotland on things like the university tuition fees. >> is this the way to get socialism in scotland? throu

the leader of the no campaign voted in edinborough. the ice of the world are fixed as the scots make up their mind about the direction of their country. >> we'll see the local results trickle in throughout the wee, small hours, but we won't know the official results until the chief counting officer takes to the stage to announce the official result of the vote. we think that will happen between aren't 6:30 a.m. to 7:30 a.m. tomorrow local time. >> still a a few more hours to sit on the edge of that seat. thanks so much. >> in new delhi, hundreds of people of tibet were detained after protesting against the chinese president's visit. talks on trade and the ongoing border dispute began thursday. we have more. >> china pledged to invest $20 billion over the next five years in india, predominantly insectors of infra structure and manufacturing. both of these countries, the leaders have had to sit down and say look, what do we both have that's mutually beneficial. india has hundreds of millions of people when it comes to man power, china sa

julie is live in edinborough. what kind of turnout have you seen so far? >> the predictions for turnout have been huge, looking at potentially 85% or more. given that the last time people voted in scotland to put somebody in power, we are talking about 50%. that will give you an idea of how gal vannized people feel. you joined me here. we have the sign of the piper there in the background, the whole city when we woke up was shrouded in mist. we thought that was an interesting metaphor for voting day, given that we won't have a clear picture of the city or the way scotland will vote until the morning. when you wake up in the morning, you will definitely know what scotland has decided. we're at various polling stations. it's a carnival atmosphere, people coming with neighbors, joining hands to come in and vote. in a couple of places, there was kilt wearing and singing and people bringing children. in western scotland, the pattern was again the same. we heard that in one polling station, at least a quarter of all the people that they have on their register ha

>> first of all, good morning from edinborough. it's good to talk to you.uspect for the moment at least, this decision is as decisive as it needs to be. the margin is slightly larger than predicted in the final days of campaigning, and i think the margin is large enough to say that for now the question of scottish independence is off the table but political reform on the table. >> i want to play you a bit of what foreign minister david cameron said right after the vote and get your reaction. take a listen. >> just as the people of scotland will have more power over their affairs, so it follows that the people of england, wales and northern ireland must have a bigger say over theirs. the rights of these voters need to be respected, preserved and enhanced. >> in fact, you suggest a constitutional commission to rebuild public confidence in the u.k. government. what concrete steps would you like to see? >> well, i think there's a real disconnect now between the center, the political center, if you like, the establishment in the united kingdom based aren't the m

by mid-afternoon, edinborough council said postal returns were at 89.6%. don't often see figures like these outside one-party dictatorships and that is not lost on scottish voters. >> it's good that there's so many people turning out to vote as well. that's the big thing. you know, we'll never get this amount of voting in the next election, which is unfortunate. >> it might not massively affect us or our generation, but it'll definitely have a knock on effect for the kids, definitely. for the image, the very identity of a country is at stake. its relationship with its near neighbors, that land to the south of coldstream, the slant of history, as we pass through dunfermlin abbey today, resting place of robert the bruce, through what perspective will we review such places tomorrow. up in perth, though, it wasn't history or politics for the ladies concentrating on their magnificent scones at a church come polling station were not here to discuss politics, they told me. it's clear, when people think they personally can make a difference about something they re

one, but so much will depend on what then happens if there is a yes vote over the next year as edinborough and london begin to negotiate specifically what details of secession would mean. >> anyone 16 years or older can vote, that does not include scottish expatriots living abroad, residents of england, wales or northern ireland. let's go to another issue here, which we haven't well discussed, and that is that scotland already has a great deal of autonomy. professor, discuss the fact that they already have some autonomy and about to get more in 2016, so really, when you talk about independence, isn't scotland already virtually independent in many respects? >> well, you know, it's one of the grandest experiments in the principle of self determination that we have witnessed in the last couple of centuries. we've seen a lot of self determination, particularly in dionneizeation after world war ii. here we have a sub state, scotland, that has steadily increased its political power internally through what we call did he havdevolution. that has accelerated since 1998 to a degree now where scotlan

we'll have live coverage from edinborough tonight including some of what the coverage looks like on scottish television tonight which is fascinating coming up ahead. we'll update you on the poll results as they come in from scotland. that's happening. also. the nbc station here in new york tonight broke big news about the federal criminal investigation that has dogged new jersey republican governor chris christie for nearly a year now. wnbc's jonathan dienst reporting late tonight while federal prosecutors in new jersey continue to investigate the shutdown of lanes onto the george washington bridge last year, as some still unexplained act of political retribution, federal officials tell wnbc tonight that those investigations thus farce have found no evidence that governor chris christie personally had advance knowledge of the shutdown plot nor have they found evidence that he took part in the plot personally. again, the investigation continues. but that is the first substantive leak from the federal criminal investigation of the bridge shutdown in new jersey. the u.s. attorney's office in ne

as does the currency. >> how will this affect the relationship between edinborough and london? >> that's a very good question. the moment the no vote looks just slightly ahead. the no vote would mean the u.k. would stay, scotland would not be independent. but that's not the end of it. on the technical level, more powers would be devolved to the scottish government. but what you would see is a very ugly bash lack, forces unleeched on the scott irk side, some arguments optimistic and sunny in your films but there's stories of the wicked english don't have the scottish at heart. and that's nasty argument, once you wake those forces up you're going to see people on the english side saying hang on, you know, you've been calling us every sort of bad name. we've had to bribe to you stay by giving you these extra powers. how come england pays more in taxes and the public money goes flowing to scotland. i'm very concerned what's going to happen on both sides of the borders even if they vote to keep together. >> one other question. england or the united kingdom's nuclear fleet is cite si

after all, on saturday, in edinborough, there was a really of 20,000 people in support of the orangeorder and whose stated policy is the preservation of property est antism in the united kingdom. after all, it was a preservation of property estantim which led to the english army coming here in the 18th century. back to you. >> in a move aimed at making the catholic church more inclusive. pope francis has married 20 couples whose relationships would traditionally be considered sinful. it's a further sign of the pope's reforming agenda. victoria reports. >> reporter: at a time b people are abandoning catholicism by the millions, pope tran sys as spraichd the catholic church must not be an okay stack he will to change. there was a symbol to make the church more inclusive and compassionate. catholic couples who previously have been forbidden by the church from marrying were invited to we had at saint peter's basilica in rome. some of the prospective brides and grooms had already beenlying together. one woman had a grown up daughter and was marrying a divorcee. >> a little piece of advice

our starting point is the scottish capitol, he had inburrouinbu edinborough. >> he is no longer the establishment and parliament. >> i have never asked a prime minister for anything. >> this is an opportunity that he has to stick one to westminster and the british establishment and the notion of scotland taking away from the united kingdom is probably one that gives him pleasure: >> so news stories are slow burners. this refer endum campaign was one of them. it began almost four months ago. but this past week, the story moved from cruise control to panic mode. >> it's got to be. >> yes. >> all it took was one news article on a poll that had the proceed independent side to change everything. for the politicians involved and the journists covering them. >> in the london papers, there was panic after the poll. i think they reflected the panic in the london establishment after the poll because nobody expected the vote to be so close. they thought it would be an easy win for the no campaign and there was genuine surprise among the london papers. >> there was never going to be -- the assumption the ear

. >> reporter: mark phillips, cbs news, edinborough.ley: did the nfl come down too hard on ray rice? james brown speaks with the head of the players union. and will nascar's tony stewart face charges for killing another driver when the cbs evening news continues. bad cholesterol in d high-risk patients more than lipitor. bad cholesterol... you're going down! yeah! lowering cholesterol is a big deal, especially if you have high cholesterol plus any of these risk factors, because you could be at increased risk for plaque buildup in your arteries over time. so, when diet and exercise aren't enough to lower cholesterol, adding crestor can help. i'm down with crestor! crestor is not right for everyone, like people with liver disease or women who are nursing, pregnant, or may become pregnant. tell your doctor about other medicines you're taking. call your doctor right away if you have muscle pain or weakness, feel unusually tired; have loss of appetite, upper belly pain, dark urine or yellowing of skin or eyes. these could be signs of rare bu

mark phillips is in edinborough. >> reporter: this vote is a modern take on the old scottish song "should old acquaintance be forgot." in this case, the 300-year-old political acquaintance between scotland and the rest of the united kingdom. >> let's do it now. >> reporter: coming into this vote, alex salmond had his yes side in a virtual tie with those saying no, thanks. the question has basically been, "would you buy a used country from this man?" >> this is a country which invented popular sovereignty, something which the united states of america, of course, tooked for. so, you know, there's going to be a yes vote. >> reporter: but another scottish politician, former prime minister gordon brown, belatedly added smcial fire to what had been a sagging no campaign. >> what we have built together by sacrificing and sharing, let no narrow nationalism split asunder ever. >> reporter: voters began lining up at polling stations before they opened. turnout is expected to approach 90%. the hope is that after two years of bitter campaigning and 300 years of history, the future here will look a li

we are joint by max foster live in edinborough. >> reporter: if you look at the polls, it is neck and neck with the yes and no campaigns. what they are trying to do is target the large group of undecided voters. they are flitting between yes and no. you have david cameron and the other party leaders in london coming up to scotland thinking we have to worry about this. latest effort is the pledge they sign on one of the tabloids here. promising an alternative. that alternative is we will get more powers over taxation and spending. you get all of the benefits of more control of your country. also with the benefits of staying within the union. this is worrying david cameron. he made a speech last night empassioned. it looked personal. you got the sense he really doesn't want to wake up on friday being the last prime minister of the united kingdom of scotland. this is what he is trying to do to convince voters. >> it means we would not share the same currency and the armed forces we built up over centuries split up forever. it would mean our pension funds sliced up. it would mean the bord

the alternative is bringing a lot of power from london to edinborough.that is historic. try to come up with an alternative. the reality if he wakes up friday morning. a yes vote. scotland going independent. his job looks vulnerable. the last prime minister of the uk. scotland. >> voting begins in the morning. do we know what time the, results are expected? >> yeah, the first results, coming through about 8:00 p.m. eastern time. final results will come about 2:00 in the morning. we think. you have to wait until final ruld results. edinborough, glascow, aberdeen, and far-flung problems, they rely on boats to get the voting boxes back and a helicopter. things could delay the poll in the early hours. >> max, thank you very much. max foster. >> just ahead tonight, the ridicu-list is next. this is kathleen. setting up the perfect wedding day begins with arthritis pain and two pills. afternoon arrives and feeling good, but her knee pain returns... that's two more pills. the evening's event brings laughter, joy, and more pain... when jamie says... what's that li

. >> all eyes on scotts, we're going live to edinborough with updates, like it or not this is historicthis vote means a lot it could upset your money. ♪ ♪ tigers, both of you. tigers? don't be modest. i see how you've been investing. setting long term goals. diversifying. dip! you got our attention. we did? of course. you're type e* well, i have been researching retirement strategies. well that's what type e*s do. welcome home. taking control of your retirement? e*trade gives you the tools and resources to get it right. are you type e*? ♪ charles: all right guys. a big deal. now, from the i think we need to focus less on the outcome and really more on why this is happening because, for me, it is a central issue for the rest of the world if ps it is an impact on the government and a blow to the idea that the so-called first world nations, that we have created these precise. i want you to hear what rupert murdoch says about it. >> it is being totally mishandled by everybody on either side. it is very interesting. there is meaning in this. it goes beyond scotland. i think there is a great

brawfd implications for our understanding of ef illusion, researchers led by the university of edinborough, analyzed 150 dinosaur specious found that birds evolved from dinosaurs and they could barely be told apart. evolutionary transition from dinosaurs to birds in the journal current biology. steve very good to have you back on the show. i think it's hard for people, certainly it's hard for me to wrap my mind around the idea that a canary or a mockingbird could diseend fro have descendea dinosaur. >> i know, living dinosaurs and there's 10,000 of them so dinosaurs really aren't extinct. >> how did that happen though? how did the giant meat eating dinosaurs make the transition and turn from these massive animals into these tiny birds? >> yeah. when we think of meat eating dinosaurs we think of things like t rex,s this 40 ton predators. but it wasn't a story of a t rex turning into a bird overnight. that's not how evolution works. that's what we found with this new study, we put together this huge family tree of meat eating dinosaurs, showing what birds are most closely related to and what

michelle caruso cabrera live in edinborough. it was not close in the end, but it was that decisive vote that had strong signals. they want more autonomy. there economic ramifications as well. >> for sure. absolutely. even though they voted to stay part of the united kingdom, they are unlikely to be the same ever again. david cameron said he was going to deliver on a promise he made before the election. if you vote against independence, you will get more control. i promise you that's going to happen. he threw a curveball in there. it's not just the scotts. it will be the people in wales and the people of england. there is a reason for this. they say wait a minute, we will give all this power to the scotts and they can vote on our affairs? we want the same powers. it's really going to change in the united kingdom with tax revenues. >> briefly while we wait for the president, david cameron kind of dodged it. there would have been hell to pay if he had lot of the vote. >> interestingly there is very little public celebration by the

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ashley webster live in the thick of it in edinborough covering the moment-by-moments development.h edson is at the white house. ashley, you are awfully close to what earlier appeared to me to be a pub. [laughter] >> reporter: they are the heart and soul. we're, in fact, on the main high street, this section is called the royal mile, at the very bottom of this street is the scottish parliament building. will those lawmakers be overseeing a brand new country or continue to be tied to west miner is? that is the big question -- westminster? the polls still open now for just under two hours, so it'll be interesting to see once they close how long it will take. the latest estimates say results probably won't be known until 6:30 to 7:30 tomorrow local time, well after midnight on the east coast. you mentioned the pubs, liz. by the way, there are many pubs in this city and across scotland that are staying open through the night. so they'll be gathered around the television seeing those results come this. and as you can see, a lot of people with flags heading down to the scottish parliamen

but if there's a win for the yes camp here in london and in edinborough, they'll have time to sort outurrency and independent scotland will use, divvying up the national debt, divvying up also the billions of dollars in revenue for north sea oil, 90%, by the way, which is in scottish waters. and then there's scottish -- scottish membership in the european union, in nato, even optimists optimists are saying that it will take years to sort that kind of thing out if ever. what happens to nato's nuclear submarine base as well in scotland? plenty of questions, plenty of uncertainty tonight. in fact, banks and big business in scotland are so nervous and even the royal bank of scotland has made plans to move here, his headquarters to london in case of a yes vote just to protect its deposit. yes, there's excitement today in scotland and a lot of anxiety and disbelief and a lot of last-minute prayers here in what they're calling the rest of great britain already. >> they've got a real populist insurgency on their hands and it will be interesting to see what happens. turning to politics back her

we'll have live coverage from edinborough tonight including some of what the coverage looks like on scottishion tonight which is fascinating coming up ahead. we'll update you on the poll results as they come in from scotland. that's

we take you now to the capitol, edinborough.? >> reporter: well, it's actually one of great excitement, but don't forget, this campaign has been going on for two years. today is the day, the polls till

in edinborough today, all the leaders from london, including prime minister david cameron are coming here with exactly the opposite message, the message being that a united kingdom, not scotland, but the united kingdom would be damaged no scotland were to go. one former prime minister, january major has been saying how badly damaged on the world stage the united kingdom would be, that it would lose military muscle and might not be able to sustain a place on the united nations security council, a complete reversal of messaging, almost trying to make the scots feel guilty about the prospects of leaving the union. it's going to be very easy for the scottish nationalists to paint this as a metaphor for them being an embittered and bruised women married to a domineering man for 50 or 60 years and leaving in disgust, and the domineering man then turning around and saying oh, please don't leave me, i can't manage without you. the scottish would say tough luck, mate, you should have told us you loved us. >> the no vote, 39% down from 45% a month ago, while yes support jumped. >> what a uniqu

campaigning in edinborough with serious pro independence business leaders, the u.k. prime minister david cameron will be here later on making exactly the same but opposite arguments, saying that scotland still needs the u.k.'s muscle behind it and reminding scots if they do vote for independence, it's not an election. they can't change their mind in five years time and if they get it wrong, that's tough lounge. >> queen elizabeth asking scots to think very carefully about the future before casting their ballots. >> president obama is working on a new strategy to fight ebola. he's expected to unveil it during a visit to the c.d.c., including sending more doctors and help from the u.s. military. this weekend, a fourth doctor in sierra leone died of the virus. >> another football sunday kicking off with some of the nfl's greatest stars missing in action, several players caught up in allegations of domestic abuse not playing this weekend. >> john henry smith has more. the panthers deactivated greg hardy. what happened there? >> back in july, he was found guilty of assaul

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nbc is there in edinborough this morning.h more on that, kelly, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. the numbers are incredible. nearly every person in this country who is eligible to vote is registered to vote today and this headline really says it all. day of destiny. across scotland they're finally checking the box, yes to indianapolis or no and remain a part of the u.k. >> it's so exciting, very, very exciting. >> reporter: it's been a two-year battle. at times loo light-hearted, but not always. you're from texas? joel goldblatt is a british citizen voting yes, le says, for scotland's children. >> we are this close to achieveing the dream of indianapolis. >> reporter: something 17-year-old archie understands. >> it seems like we got a future now, something to look forward. >> reporter: for others a question of identity. >> we're not british. we're scottish. >> reporter: on the flipside, these 5 nouchl nos say they're british and scottish and want to stay that way. they were in that crowd. >> yes, enough s