in 2010, the edl was registered by member of the uk branch of the jewish defense league. the jewish defense league was designated terrorist group in the us and appears to be reemerging there in recent months. the director, roberta moore is a former occupation forces member seen here toating a weapon in a jdl t-shirt after three years. she changed the name of the company to the jewish defense league, uk limited. moore was the head of the so-called jewish division of the edl until her involvement proved too embarrassing. it was part of a wider zionist entity attempt to transform the far right and to coopt it for zionism and topus phobia. here is robinson explaining how palestine was at the root of the current resentments. why are people angry? were out to overtake london, overtake our capital sie, every weekend flying isis bag, the police did nothing, nothing, instead they arrested me. tommy robinson is an asset of the zionist entity, the edl and its successes were and remain zionist assets. the zionist entity is burning down the uk to defend the genocide in gaza. joining m

the edl. and its successes were and remain zionist assets. the zionist entity is burning down the uk to defend the genocide in gazza. joining me in the studio, as usual, is our resident expert and eminent scholar the critic of israel, david miller. david's a senior research fellow at the center for islam and global affairs at istanbul zam university and is a co-director of the lobby and watch dog spinwatch. joining us again as our guest contributor today is the independent investigative journalist richard medhust. who specializes in covering us politics, international relations in the middle east, welcome to the show. david, what's the the english defense league actually created by israel, do you think, well? extraordinary enough, the answer to that is effectively yes and what happened was that in 2006-7 uh some organizations in the states, the center for vigilant freedom, the center for security policy, all of which funded by the cionists decided to organize in the uk an office in wfield near leads and they organized something called the cou

zionist entity, the edl and its successes were and remain zionist assets. the zionist entity is burning down the uk to defend the genocide in gazza. joining me in the studio, as usual, is our resident expert and eminent scholar the critic of israel, david miller. david's a senior research fellow at the center for islam and global affairs at istanbul zam university and is a co-director of the lobby and watch dog spinwatch. joining us again as our guest contributor today is the independent. investigative journalist richard medhust who specializes in covering us politics, international relations in the middle east. welcome to the show. david, what's the english defense league actually created by? israel do you think? well, extraordinary enough the answer to that is effectively yes. and what happened was that in 2006-7 uh some organizations in the states, the center for vigilant freedom, the center for security policy, all of which funded by the cionists decided to organize in the uk an office in wakefield near leads and they organized something called the coun

but in addition, a co-founder of the edl was a person using the pseudonym paul ray. ray has previously been a covert spy inside the pro palestine group, the international solidarity movement, on behalf of front page magazine, a hardline us zionist entity. according to a count. at the time, the products of this spying was shared with the intelligence agencies, including in israel. in 2011, the bbc reported that the edl was in receipt of intelligence on islam from israel. in 2010, the edl was registered by member of the uk branch of the jewish defense league. the jewish defense league was designated terrorist group in the us and appears to be reemerging there in recent months. the direct. roberto moore is a former occupation forces member seen here toating a weapon in a jdl t-shirt. after the years she changed the name of the company to the jewish defense league, uk limited. moore was the head of the so-called jewish division of the edl until her involvement proved too embarrassing. it was part of a widersignist entity attempt to transform the far right and to coop it

an hour ago i heard the edl are now here on rooly lane and they are causing trouble in. bradford and i mean their name is edl, the english defense league, i mean it's not defense is it, it's attack that they're doing here, now i wanted to ask you what do you think is the root cause of this problem, do you think it's related to the palestinian marches, and what must we do to stop this? it's entirely linked to the palestinian marches, robinson said so, not the pound shop variety we've just. on the real deal, tommy robinson has told us explicitly, this is a response to what he called the hamas marches, by which he meant the marches of mainly, overwhelmingly non-muslim people, overwhelmingly white people in the towns and cities around this country over the last 303 days. "we don't need to look in the crystal ball, we can read the book, coloring in book, that is tommy robinson, so it's entirely related to that. i did see the rumor that they were coming to bradford, knowing bradford as i do, i would have thought that was very risky enterprise for them indeed, i know the people

two men have been jailed for an attack on pro edl. they call them pro edl. edl.m pro edl. edl. they founded the edl is disbanded. it was disbanded in 2013. these are basically english guys, english guys were being openly english. you're not allowed to be openly english. you've got to hide. hide your shame of being english. don't. don't show a flag. oh, my god, what do you think you are, some sort wrapped in a union jack? you belong to some sort of nation state. you don't. you belong to a beige blob . you belong to the blob. you belong to the uniparty. there's. you're not alone . other other people from alone. other other people from other countries. they're allowed a country in a nation state that britain belongs to. everyone and nobody. but yes. >> so these are they did get arrested like the people to their credit. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> these are , muslim guys, a guy >> these are, muslim guys, a guy called gaffer. who attacked, attacked these men. and i saw the footage. it was horrible. they, you know, they beat them. it was a mob of them. there was o

national edl and _ wrong track. so, he left the... national edl and he _ wrong track.s atraitor. national edl and he was regarded as a traitor. ., , a traitor. some are, well, it is fascinating. — a traitor. some are, well, it is fascinating, some _ a traitor. some are, well, it is fascinating, some are - a traitor. some are, well, it is i fascinating, some are reachable, some less so, what do you think of that, will, you run a prison charity. take a rioter to a mosque and have tea and biscuits? the stats on restorative _ and have tea and biscuits? the stats on restorative justice _ and have tea and biscuits? the stats on restorative justice are _ on restorative justice are impressive. it is not for every crime — impressive. it is not for every crime and _ impressive. it is not for every crime and every person. there is a huge _ crime and every person. there is a huge amount of nuance that goes into it. huge amount of nuance that goes into it but _ huge amount of nuance that goes into it but i _ huge amount of nuance that goes into it. but i suppose it is a fundamental

he's converted an edl audience member during his edinburgh fringe show. >> is that because the edl disbandedi think this is, i don't i don't think i don't think he's he's making this up. i think basically what happened was he had an edl supporter in from sunderland. and a woman who's flyering his show handed the edl guy a poster. these flyers were posters, apparently instead of flyers. and he pins the flyers on the wall, but handed him a poster and the edl guy said, i like the title, the title of the show, which you should definitely see is rahul kohli. rahul britannia . and the kohli. rahul britannia. and the flyer was like, where are you from? and the guy replied, i'm from? and the guy replied, i'm from sunderland and he said that he's in the edl and, basically the guy came to the show and loved it so much that he bought the flyer a pint and he's basically had his opinions changed. how do we know he's had his opinions changed? because rahul says he did okay, but rahul says he did okay, but rahul rawail wouldn't like make up stuff. >> no, no, i'm not suggesting this is a publicity stunt, al

the media keeps using the name edl but that hasn't been a thing since 2013.tration was in manchester in 2018. the edl hasn't been the thing for ages but what is there still is the anger and frustration mindset that has been there for years boiling over. find there for years boiling over. and what is the _ there for years boiling over. and what is the frustration here? what is the anger? i what is the frustration here? what is the anger?— is the anger? i think its years of not bein: is the anger? i think its years of not being heard _ is the anger? i think its years of not being heard and _ is the anger? i think its years of not being heard and not - is the anger? i think its years of not being heard and not havingl is the anger? i think its years of| not being heard and not having a voice on anything. we talk about the communities, to be fair and even with everyone, we need to hear everybody�*s voice whether that opinion is something you agree with because how can you set solutions if you are not hearing everyone in the community?— community? thank you for you

edl member, their words, not mine.car they are doing everything that they are doing everything that they can to smash up that car, get hold of him because of the colour of his skin. >> i don't well, they're saying it's because he's an edl member, which is due to the content of his politics. but what i would say is, and of course, that's not acceptable. and we need cool heads to tell, particularly young men, that this is not the right way to carry on. but even in the instance you just showed from hull, that's violent disorder. and look, this is this is reflected in the criminal justice system. violence orders a maximum sentence of five years arson with intent to cause harm to human life is a maximum of a life sentence. so there are a range of things happening. and i just think it's a bit unwise to draw equivalencies between all of them and saying they're all universally the same on the point of the police. look, i can't remember the last time, by the way. >> just be clear. i didn't say no. i know you're not universally.

the agenda that these far—right activists, edl or whoever they are, is to be anti—muslim and to stokeity and unwelcomeness towards muslims. what i want to ask and what i want people to ponder on is, consider how we must be feeling. i am a british—born muslim who is a0 years old, second/third generation in the uk, like the vast majority of muslims in this country are. this is making us feel unwelcome, that we don't belong here, but actually, we are born and brought up here, we are raised here, we studied here, we are educated here. we're part of the system, we contribute to society and we are very much belong here. so i am calling on the government to take strong action against these far—right groups, to proscribe these groups like the edl and other far—right groups like they have with extreme islamist groups. you just said there proscribing these groups would be the reaction you would want from the government. what else would you like to see? there needs to be more effort from this we saw in the aftermath of the 2001 riots, there was a lot of investment and effort and energy. but 23 y

the edl march that was arranged _ vulnerable.sque would have had thousands of people protesting against this community, so luckily the police have _ community, so luckily the police have picked this up, the local communities have got involved, and we feel. _ communities have got involved, and we feel. we — communities have got involved, and we feel, we still feel vulnerable, we feel, we still feel vulnerable, we are _ we feel, we still feel vulnerable, we are not— we feel, we still feel vulnerable, we are not safe, the edl protesters have been— we are not safe, the edl protesters have been around, they've been mixing — have been around, they've been mixing within the crowd, they've been _ mixing within the crowd, they've been walking around the mosque and they've _ been walking around the mosque and they've been picked up by the police, — they've been picked up by the police, they've been tagged, so let's— police, they've been tagged, so let's see — police, they've been tagged, so let's see where this goes, and so far, let's see

there is no edl.y differ from the group that _ out writing. how do they differ from the group that you _ out writing. how do they differ from the group that you joined _ out writing. how do they differ from the group that you joined as - the group that you joined as a teenager? i think we can see some pictures of this. perhaps we will see some pictures. how does it differfrom when you see some pictures. how does it differ from when you are part of the national front?— national front? when i was in the national front? when i was in the national front, _ national front? when i was in the national front, it _ national front? when i was in the national front, it was _ national front? when i was in the national front, it was a _ national front? when i was in the national front, it was a finished i national front, it was a finished french movement and it did not have social media. we had a society that knew how to deal with that sort of nonsense and that sort of rubbish. moving on 30 years, that is how old

when they make reference to it, because, as you say , the edl hasn't been as you say, the edl hasn'tu know, there have been times in the edl's history where it's been more of a kind of, a present movement , present movement, >> how how are they understanding what they mean when they refer to the edl? >> well, i think they'll have a very difficult time doing that because there are so many splinter groups and these are all these people organise over encrypted messaging apps like telegram and the government is going to have a very tough choice because it can either try to break apart those that encryption and, you know , people encryption and, you know, people value privacy. all of our whatsapp messages are encrypted and we should value the protections that gives us. or they'll have to keep playing whack a mole. and it's going to be very difficult for the government, but i don't think they can just go, let's look at people who affiliate with the edl, because it's not as if they have a public membership or anything like that. so they're going to have a very difficult time doing this. >>

the agenda that these far—right activists, edl or whoever they are, is to be anti—muslim and to stokeomeness towards muslims. what i want to ask and what i want people to ponder on is, consider how we must be feeling. i am a british—born muslim who is a0 years old, second/third generation in the uk, like the vast majority of muslims in this country are. this is making us feel unwelcome, that we don't belong here, but actually, we are born and brought up here, we are raised here, we studied here, we are educated here. we're part of the system, we contribute to society and we are very much belong here. so i am calling on the government to take strong action against these far—right groups, to proscribe these groups like edl and other far—right groups, like they have with extreme islamist groups. and you just said there proscribing these groups would be the reaction you would want from the government. what else would you like to see? there needs to be more effort from this new government on community cohesion. we saw in the aftermath of the 2001 riots, there was a lot of investment and ef

we will fight against edl. we will fight for our ground.rs against acid attack must again be taken . everyone should again be taken. everyone should be here. >> so, i mean, this online stuff has real consequences. >> yeah. nick lowles and hope not hate have repeatedly spread lies about me, about colleagues and friends of mine. they have released the personal information of on anonymous twitter accounts, and yet they have employed members of the communist party of britain who a gb news investigation by charlie peters and stephen edgington found celebrated the red army, who obviously raped and murdered their way across germany. >> so i mean because obviously these people are not here to defend themselves and i'm sure that they would deny a lot of this this on video on gb news. >> right. so that's fine. so these people are happy to be agitators against quote unquote the far right. and yet despite crying foul about misinformation constantly publish lies on the internet without repercussions. i think it's disgraceful sean. >> i mean, i'm not you

the ghost of the edl? was it? there? what was it? the ghost of the edl? was it ?s top cop has just given the green light to people to come out in force on the street and mop up. in my view, we saw very hard left radicals there. that's according to their flag that they've got. they were out in brighton. there was a huge pro—palestine presence , the same pro—palestine presence, the same group of people who have been rampaging through towns and cities for months now, causing all sorts of problems. and then there was this . we've got there was this. we've got children and women using those trains just during the summer holidays. >> they are disgusting. nothing that's true. and we need to go that route and get rid of . all. that route and get rid of. all. i just want to say thank you all. i'm going to leave you now. >> and three free, free palestine. free, free palestine . palestine. free, free palestine. >> free, free palestine. thank you. god bless you . you. god bless you. >> that is a now suspended labour councillor who has just been arrested on suspicion of encour

the other was - walthamstow, there was a huge edl march predicted to happen yesterday evening but whatas a huge antiracist gathering, eight to 10,000 people. some of the senior team went up to look after the restaurant, a couple who didn't feel comfortable coming to work to be given the option to go home. i take it minute by minute based on advice locally, we stayed open and it ended up being really peaceful and we were open and trading throughout. ken, how uncomfortable has the last few days felt? obviously i'm an immigrant myself, i've obviously i'm an immigrant myself, we lived _ obviously i'm an immigrant myself, we lived in— obviously i'm an immigrant myself, i've lived in the uk for 36 years but is _ i've lived in the uk for 36 years but is something that i feel deeply connected to and it's very sad to see when— connected to and it's very sad to see when something like that has happened. ever since emma and i set ”p happened. ever since emma and i set upthe— happened. ever since emma and i set up the business over a decade ago, we wanted — up the business over a decade ago, we wa

protesters, no. end and we didn't see any edl protesters, no.— protesters, no.ve of i next? i think this is i representative of how next? i think this is - representative of how politics has been so divisive over the last few years and there are still loads of that going on. i do think it is kind of — there is a lot of unhappiness, i�*m not going to be unrealistic and think that suddenly everyone is completely unified. they are not. there are still people that are still unhappy. they are still going to probably be rioting in some places but i�*m hoping this will take the wind out of it. you can but hope but i am worried about it and i don�*t want to see those things happening. i think hopefully this will give people the confidence to keep standing up against it, but i am really worried about more of it happening. jemma bicknell there. and more than 400 people have been arrested since those far—right riots broke out a week ago. three men who took part in the wave of violence, were sent to jail wednesday for up to three years. around the world and across the uk. t

group and was seen to climb ona part of an edl group and was seen to climb on a barrier and make monkeys and insulting comments and also imitated muslim prayer and the judge said this was insulting behaviour which caused alarm and distress to others. —— on the 2nd of august. 0ne witness said she had been traumatised by his behaviour and the judge gave out an eight—month sentence tojordan plain taking into account, he said, the context of civil unrest that was going on and also the sustained nature of the behaviour, went handing down this jail sentence, judge guy kearl kc has givenjordan plain eight months in prison for his own —— unrest which arose after stabbings in southport. here's a reminder of who's been sentenced so far today. this is adnan ghafoorr. he's 31 years old and has been jailed for 18 months for affray. he was was also jailed for an additional 12 months for breaching a suspended sentence. alongside him in the courtroom was this man, sameer ali, 21 years old, also jailed for affray, for which he was given a sentence of 20 months. soon after them this man, jordon parlour a

live streams, i saw there was no edl here last night. but what is clear is that the people who were here were attending a pub peacefully enjoying some karaoke, trying to dnnk enjoying some karaoke, trying to drink with their families, and instead got caught up in a terrifying affair of having a mob brandishing weapons, trying to break through the front door and smashing a window. >> well, thank you very much indeed. charlie peters live on the scene in birmingham of those violent attacks on that pub yesterday evening. i mean , it's yesterday evening. i mean, it's pretty distressing, isn't it? we've got what happened in birmingham. we've got huge riots, protests down in plymouth. it seems as though, i don't know how many towns and cities have now been impacted by far right protesters. we've seen looting, we've seen arson attacks, we've seen attacks on police officers. we've seen even an injured police dog, which they're looking for, someone who is accused of throwing a brick at a dog. this is just ramping up. >> it's very worrying times. i

that you see there are stoling the tensions. he's the co-founder of the english defense league, the edl known to be anti-islam, islamophobic, nationalist or ultra nationalist. and obsessed with jews. he has posted inflammatory video rants to his 800 thousand followers on x, decrying muslims, migrants, the political establishment, and the police. the for right groups and anti-muslim british citizens posted social media posts that you see over here, and on these posts and on these ads, they invited for protest on violence to take place, which is exactly what happened. politicians also got in on the anti-muslim, anti-immigrant rhetoric like nigel farage. uh, he's the leader of the populist movement, reform uk who is now a sitting mp, he suggested muslims do not share british values, which in turn justified the riots. well, anti-muslim and anti-immigration nationalistic sentiment doesn't get formed overnight, you see the stats over here, at the end of 2023, hate crimes against muslims uh, rose quite a bit uh in the united kingdom, which were up by 140% compared with this time last year, als

>> look, let's just replace the pro—palestine with something like edl, for example.id, oh, they're sympathetic to my edl views, for example, ridiculously radical, like that. the left would be an absolute furore, calling for this guy to be struck off the list if they want to play the game that way, everyone, they should be treated with the same back. strike this guy off the register. show this is not acceptable in our country. no matter what your political views are, nobody gets preferential treatment and i do worry about it. we go back to that conversation about mps. you're right to call out , patrick, how right to call out, patrick, how might this affect their vote? how might this affect a sick mp, for example, someone who's undergoing treatment? many mps get ill. will they worry now that if they don't take a pro—palestine stance that they won't get seen? >> well, there shouldn't really be politics in the nhs. i mean, for a long time there was a lot of i think, you know, quite woke ideology in the nhs. we've done numerous segments on this show about, you know, wheth

we will fight against edl.for our ground, our in the seine muslim sisters against acid attack must again breaking. but everyone should be here. >> the edl lovely stuff. and how is harm defined for harmful but legal posts inciting violence is obviously already illegal. keirs plans would target things like posts encouraging eating disorders or causing offence. this could include horse riding tutorials as horse riding can be physically dangerous or it could include martini recipes as alcohol is harmful and is linked to depression. we already have a highly policed internet. in 2017, the times found that 3395 arrests had been made for section one, two seven offences, which is used for cases of onune which is used for cases of online abuse. the reason so much misinformation was flying around before the riots was because the government didn't tell us what was happening. we still don't know any possible motive and instead of acknowledging people's concerns or reassuring people's concerns or reassuring people that he wa

league, the edl, which was initially named the english and jewish defense league, has been a vehicle for violent islamophobic actions in the uk over the past decade. the failure of other methods to intimidate or suppress british muslims, such as policies enacted by erswil's government ministers like suella bravoman and michael gove, and attempts at mobilizing zinist counter protest has led to the mobilization of far right white nationalist. groups, the violence has been exacerbated by the spread of disinformation, particularly the false narrative that muslims were responsible for the tragic stabbing death of three young girls in southport in the northwest of england. despite the suspect being identified as welsh-born christian british citizen of rwanda and descent, far right groups deliberately spread false rumors that the killer was a muslim asylum seeker leading. to widespread violence and unrest. in this context, the riots represents not just a spontaneous outbreak of violence, but a calculated effort to punish muslims for their anti-sianist stance, using far right extremists to t

meanwhile, two men have been sent to prison for an attack on what prosecutors described as pro edl protesters after rival demonstrations clashed in leeds city centre last saturday. leeds crown court was shown cctv of a large group of asian men kicking and punching a small group of four white men, 21 year old samir ali, from leeds, and 31 year old adnan ghafoor , who also lives in adnan ghafoor, who also lives in leeds, admitted affray earlier on this week . well, it comes as on this week. well, it comes as the prime minister has issued a warning to those using social media to encourage violence and disorder. visiting the metropolitan police command centre in central london, sir keir starmer said social media is not a law free zone . he said is not a law free zone. he said the police are actively pursuing those breaking the law online with more swift sentences expected to be handed down today. he said it was a reminder today. he said it was a reminder to everyone that whether they're directly involved or remotely involved, those people are still culpable. >> those that are thinking about getti