ford's answer was eisenhower. ford really admired eisenhower. he said that eisenhower presided over two terms, eight years of peace, prosperity, and progress, balanced the budget. he thought well of his presidency. ford's assessment is one worth considering. it is one thing when historians assess rank, it is another thing when former presidents to, someone who has been in that job, who understands its hardships. who has a special vantage point from which to judge the president. gerald ford's assessment of dwight eisenhower is one worth considering. i will leave you with that thought. thank you very much. [applause] host: if you have questions, can you go to the microphone please? go ahead. >> [indiscernible] yanek: a former president which was the former president? >> dwight d. eisenhower. [indiscernible] yanek: that is very fitting. there is an excellent book on richard nixon and eisenhower by one of five friends. called the president and the apprentice and was published a month ago. it is a reassessment of richard nixon and is part of a multi

dwight eisenhower. kansas.up in abilene illinois.gan, dixon, the dark suburbs of the midwest in arkansas, bill clinton. barack obama, we frequently talk about hawaii, we talk indonesia, a lot of kenya. a lot of places, but let's face it, he grew up in kansas. if you think about that and triangulate all of that, basically you triangulate all those presidents who had been important to create in the american century, basically it is right here. midwesternally a thesis. the frontier stopped right here. i was looking for evidence of this thesis in eisenhower's diaries and i could not find it. i did find this. line in the frontier thesis is that the expansion of the frontier leads to the growth of independence in america. and independence of american character. i did find this in the eisenhower diaries. during world war ii, he is beginning to plan for the invasion for american troops going to the middle east and europe. his father dies. he was buried today, it says. he was a just man, well educated, a thinker

eisenhower. eisenhower.way d the presidential libraries associate director you will hear from the moment. this is sponsored we're happy to say that the wt cap or foundation and commerzbank. of yours is married a frenchman. as a german family this is difficult birthday. she is here tonight we welcome you back. this is a great idea. 90 will hear from tamarine. -- tim reeves. out eisenhower warned in 1890 win jackson turner said the frontier thesis essay. he said the frontier close and therefore america changed in the frontier have made their. area thet the last left is from two. i want to say tonight is really is about midwest. first off jackson was from. -- from wisconsin. area he in kansas city worked with him. thesiself invented the manifest any. he wrote a. -- he wrote books. he also helped found the oregon trail. he was the first cap colorado appointed by lincoln. these is westward the path of empire. in these is he said there is little zone is the temperate zone of the world empire is moving

eisenhower, and during the course of this interview, eisenhower asked stephen ambrose, do you know andrew jackson higgins? he said he knew of him, why? eisenhower replied, because he is the man who won the war for us. he all most fell out of his chair, but eisenhower explained andrewggins industries, higgins had built the landing uset in boats that we will to land on beaches. think about the flat bottom tugboats. it came out of louisiana because of the swamps and the oil business down here. the point was that eisenhower made was that without those landing crafts, we could not have followed our strategy of amphibious invasion. amphibious invasion was a highly controversial strategy i will mention quickly. been particularly successful before the war. we knew that we were going to have to have amphibious invasions to land in normandy. this is something we try to bring out in the museum. we landedoblems when in north africa, sicily, africa, again and again. there was the question whether this strategy could work. as a result in this, stephen ambrose and his best friend dr. nick mueller decide

i have not heard that eisenhower appointed warren. the fact that he resisted the -- it seems tons call that into question. tomiko that despite revisionism, he was on the wrong side. i would be interested in your tweets about that story. >> we have 10 minutes to talk about the 60 years of legacy, which is impossible to do. legalt to start with its legacy. we have four citations of brown, reynolds versus sins, loving antonioirginia, san school district versus rodriguez, and planned parenthood versus casey. if you look at its legal legacy, what has a left the country ec? >> that is a big question. [laughter] the most important legal legacy goes back to the point that it established the idea that the supreme court can be interventionist to protect individual rights in the most profound way, it was cited in where the issue wasn't school. legacy, inn next part because it can be interpreted in so many ways. he site san antonio versus rodriguez. there is a response to that thation, which is the case holds that education is not a fundamental r

you were talking about general eisenhower. what concerns did he have just before the d-day invasion? keith: could you repeat the question? host: what concerns did eisenhower have prior to d-day? keith: he was concerned they were going to fail. a lot of things could have gone wrong. we were at the whim of the weather. we were supposed to launch the d-day invasion on june 5 and eisenhower showed leadership in that he was calculating the chances for success. if you can imagine being in his position with hundreds of thousands of men and plans ready to be sent into motion on his word, there was pressure but he delayed it because of the weather. he thought it would not succeed for 24 hours. this was difficult for the men who were loaded up into the ships and were on the sea getting seasick. you have to have your troops in fighting form, but eisenhower went ahead and gave the go signal. the invasion went forth on june 6, 1944. this speaks a lot about his character, eisenhower wrote out a note the night before in which he said the inv

the fact that both the truman and the eisenhower administration -- eisenhower is no big fan of desegregation. he says warren was a big mistake. but his administration does support breaking down desegregation for all of these reasons. the court is aware of what congress is thwarted from doing. it is aware of what congress has -- what the executive is trying to do. it knows about jackie robinson. in that sense, brown followed public opinion, surprisingly. susan: the micro and to the two we will listen to linda macro. -- the micro and macro. we will listen to linda brown talking about her reaction to the first decision. >> time stood still. until an afternoon in may 1954, when i was at school, my father at work, and my mother at home doing the ironing and listening to the radio. at 12:52, the announcement came, the court's decision on ending segregation was unanimous. that evening in our whole was much rejoicing. i remember seeing tears of joy in the eyes of my father as he embraced us, repeating, thanks be unto god. >> we move from linda brown to societal changes. what was the reaction in the

eisenhower. unfortunately, this was a terrible misjudgment. as we got closer to the german border, basically, resistance stiffened. in this german bunker, we learned the story of the battle of forest. a brutal nasty affair that held us up and should have let us know that things were not going swimming. on top of the bunker, concrete here, you can see a fabrication of church steeples and buildings. what the germans used to do from the bunkers was actually use chalk and markers to write out the distances of these various landmarks in the landscape around them. this is how they would zero in and use their artillery and weapons to fire on advancing forces. over here in the bunker, we have a map used by the third armor division. he thought that the americans and british would be forced to come to a political agreement to end the war. in this battle, the largest that has been fought by the united states army in its history, better than 600,000 americans were engaged. you can see our lines famously bold

eisenhower appoints him. he said it was the worst decision he had ever made. >> the second set of oral arguments were heard. chief justice warren, hugh black, william douglas, sherman mitten, and stanley read. did they differ much during the arguments made in the first set? >> the oral arguments the second time around were focused on these questions about original intent. the trouble there, jeffrey has already explain ed what the problems were. the question was put before the lawyers, the naacp lawyers, struggled a bit. the problem was that the answer was not going to be found in the questions that had been put before the lawyers and the court. >> is seminole question before the court in this case does racial segregation in children of public schools deprive minority children of their rights? >> this is a riveting decision and a riveting story of how he got there. o the arguments are heard. the justices have their vote in the private conference. and warren begins by saying this is an easy case. this is an eas

eisenhower which was 90%.'m not that much of a socialist compared to eisenhower. >> trevor: this is weird. the second debate in a row where a candidate compared themselves to eisenhower. last time it was donald trump. reminding us eisenhower deports hundreds of thousands of mexicans. now that i think about it -- deporting mexicans and taxing the rich -- this eisenhower guy sounds like the ultimate candidate. he could unit both sides and dominate this presidential race. in fact... i want to get ahold of this guy who seems like -- hello, operate? yes, get me dwight d. eisenhower, please. what? when? (laughter) oh, i see... was it peac peaceful? (laughter) okay. thank you. he's in a meeting. he's going to call back. (laughter) bernie's one other big moments is when he called out secretary schinten for getting campaign contributions from wall street. >> let's not be naive, over her political career, wall street has been the major campaign contribute tore hillary clinton. now, maybe they're dumb and they don't know

to attack eisenhower's opponents. [laughter] >> so he got a reputation justifiable so early in his career for playing rough. rock them, sock them campaign. >> he gets to congress and is put on the houston american activities committee, a committee which has a particular residence in my family and some of the other families in this room, what was nixon role there? >> ridiculous committee. evil and stupid. nixon was smarter than most of those guys because he -- he discovered a real spot. socialists and whatever. nixon found a real won. classic nixon class anger. harvard law school graduate. he's actually a soviet spy. we now, i think, pretty well established that he was. he was protesting, there was an investigation and they said no, it was a case of mistaken identity, tall and handsome. he's a spy, he was all alone on that. the committee ready to give up, but nixon alone said, no, he really is a spy. went after him partly because he hateed, in fact, made the mistake in saying, my law school was harvard. i believe yours

read all the i eisenhower biographies. ambrose, whatever. , because when he was president, i was in the army . i was in the infantry. everybody thought he was the do-nothing president. he was playing golf, stuff like that. that is what they thought at the time. you read the book and you get a whole different thing. you couldn't have done what he did without being all those other things. frank: the way he handled macarthur. and montgomery. and roosevelt, all of them. i fell in love, entered the competition, we won. david junior was on the jury and selected us. it only became obvious further in that they were taking another position. them,of -- apart from there was a lot of opposition fueled by the dry house fund. paul: there are a lot of people who believe everything in washington should be classical and traditional, and don't want to see modern things. the eisenhower family ultimately made common cause with those people, even though their interests are not the same. the eisenhower commission said, he did not say all those

eisenhower walked back and forth. again his chen to his chest pacing, sitting down on the couch can stand up, sitting down, then it. he called all his officers and a split right down the middle. at that point eisenhower said, well then, let's go. we will go. at the point cheers went up into the room because that's what now convinced this great innovation. so pictured in the opposition if you will for a second as the invasion were to begin across the way was ronald, the head of fashion rommel -- head of the german forces at rommel said to his officers, he said we must stop the americans on the beaches. and they said faithfully, it will be the longest day. and it was the longest day. imagine what it looked like to the germans, the german defenders at the 11th of a look at the sea and all of a sudden they couldn't see anyone get all the good see warships coming, this vast armada and coming fast. all of a sudden there was a series of explosions opening up the skies. the gods had opened up the wrath. the heat and noise wer

as we saw in the film president eisenhower said, these are the ideals for which the war was fought. of the monuments, fine arts and archive section were charged with a staggering responsibility by general -- then general eisenhower. across a world set ablaze by war's destruction, against the lost thrashes of the nazis, preserve the treasurers of humanity. that was the charge. ranging thousands of miles, operating with few resources and little direct authority, the monuments men often relied more on their own grit, engenuity and power of persuasion than other things. just a handful of men and women -- i want to emphasize the women and never more than a few hundred, they fought to rescue millions of artifacts and protect them through the fire of the allies military advance. some gave their lives in the effort. but thanks to the monument men, the war that claimed so much, that took the lives of so many would not also destroy the creativity that connects us to the heritage of siecivilization. millions of artifacts were saved for the public and/or returned to their rightful owners. the p

as monuments officer at general eisenhower's headquarters.uments men we honor today. these men and women came from different countries. they hailed from vastly different backgrounds. but they shared a common mission. to defend colonades of civilization through crucibles of war. one man would flee nazi germany the day after his bar mitzvah only to return and liberate hundreds of looted treasures in the salt mines of halbron. another a scottish born, london raised and american educated writer would become an art detective who helped recover priceless paintings. there's the native chicagoan who would assist in the movement of recovered stolen art in western germany. and in the pacific theater, there's the american-born typist who would generate field reports for monuments men in tokyo. these four men and women came from different circumstances. they each contributed in their own way. but all advanced an important mission that could have easily been overlooked. in all these four people are with us here today. you know, after their service, many o

and so that is that give and take that eisenhower talks about. but specifically when sputnik was launched and that idea that whatever lofted sputnik, that soviet long-range missile could carry a nuclear warhead in its nose cone to the united states, that gave birth to darpa. and the idea was we must never again be taken by technological surprise. and it is amazing that in all the years since darpa has always kept america in the pole position, kept us the strongest. there has never been an overtaking of american science and technology in terms of weaponry. >> and we're both too young to remember this time period, but there may be some in the audience who are of a more wise age that remember the fear of nuclear war back during the 1950s and the fear that even trickled down into the scientific world. this is a period where robert oppenheimer who helped build the american atomic bomb because he speakes out against the hydrogen bomb -- [inaudible] and the idea that the soviets could overtake us just about any day, the bomber and missile gaps and every

anne eisenhower for honoring us with your presence today, as well.oss the world set ablaze by destruction, against the last thrashers of nazi nihilism, preserved the treasures of humanity. that was the charge. operating with few sources and little authority, the monuments -- as just a handful of men and women, never more than a few hundred, fought to rescue themacts and protect through the fire of military advance. some gave their lives in the effort. war wouldthem, the not also destroy the creativity that can access to the heritage of civilization. their peers of years and detective work -- their perseverance and detective work returned artifacts to their rightful owners. force for -- is imagination. it is imagination that sums up creativity and art and our common humanity finds a home. we see what we have in common. we understand other people's thinking. this was not just about the object, it was about the creativity and imagination which is a force for good. with the last living monuments men among us, and women, we are in the presence of greatnes

eisenhower actually ended up deporting probably around 250,000 immigrants. and second, that program that donald trump loves so much was officially called operation wetback. no, no, no, don't judge. i know that name may seem crude, people. but there's something to be said for a policy that doesn't hide where it's coming from. yeah, it's like if stop and frisk was called hey, what is in that black guy's pocket. (laughter) (applause) it's honest. i like that. and then mersfully at the end, it was time for the closing statement. the candidates chance to rally new supporters with their unique and uplifting vision. and here is the republican frontrunner. >> in the two hours of this debate, five people have died from drug-related deaths. a hundred million dollars has been added to our national debt. 200 babies have been killed by abortionists. and two veterans have taken their lives out of despair. >> trevor: and the good news is, parents, in a few months he'll be available for kid's birthday parties. what do you say after that? how do you end-- i mean i don't even

i think it's his reference to eisenhower that's raised a lot of eyebrows. i know robert spoke to the trump campaign yesterday. did this come up out of the blue? it's allowed her critics to latch on and compare it to something inhumane in 1954. >> this is part of trump's broader strategy. when i spoke to trump's campaign strategy who said there's still remains of a visible default line, the debate exposed it once again and they believe, the trump campaign, that if this campaign continues to unfold, the base sticks with them and perhaps a senator cruz with their same position and not with bush, kasich and rubio. >> mark, you look like a man alone on that stage the other night. they knew this for him as a as a rule -- as a vulnerability. >> you said the meamerican econy would be threatened. but from a political point of view, this is within the republican party and people are worried that donald trump's immigration idea is going to lead the election. there's no doubt that redder -- produces high fives at the clinton campaign. >> we have other things to get to.

donald trump, also making headlines for touting president eisenhower's 1950s deportation program to prove he can do the same. but does trump really want to be like ike? >>> plus, threatening behavior. police make an arrest connected to the online warnings that caused panic at the university of missouri. >>> and severe weather tears across the midwest. nearly a dozen tornadoes in one state. bill karins is tracking where the storm is headed next. it's 5:30 on the east coast, 2:30 out west, and this is "way too early." >>> good morning it's thursday, november 12th, i'm jonathan capehart. we'll have all those stories plus we're going to check in on actor shia labeouf who is holding a marathon viewing of his own movies. the video is from a livestream you can watch online of him watching movies of himself. right now they're watching cinematic classic "i robot." but first let's start with politics after taking up a sizable portion of tuesday night's debate, immigration continued to dominate the republican race for the white house. yesterday, after donald trump's appearance on "morning joe." >> t

rayburn, democrat who campaigned for adlai stevenson and yet worked very, very well with eisenhower. they both loved their country and worked for the interest of their country. i would answer the first question and, of course, can't prove it, but i'd say, no, it was more difficult then. the deep south, remember, was run by a handful, literally a handful of plantation owners. and the bitterness between the slave states and the free soil states was intense. and it touched every area of life, not just social life and religious life, it touched as i mentioned before, it touch toed commercial life because these barons in the south were swapping markets with cheap goods made by slave labor. and that enflamed commercial, financial interests of the north as well as the moral interests of the north. this was an impossible breach in the conduct of these two parts of the country. and as i say, clay never solved that problem, but he held the nation together by finding enough common ground to build this american system and truly unite the rest of the nation. civil war probably was inevitable beca

let me just tell you, that dwight eisenhower a good president, people liked him. i like ike, right, the expression, i like ike, moved a million-and-a-half illegal immigrants out of this country, moved them just beyond the border. they came back. moved them beyond the border. they came back. didn't like it. moved them way south. they never came back. 2008 eisenhower. >> there were lots of other pointed exchanges between the candidates, for example, on foreign policy, rand paul who calls himself a form of isolationist. giving moreco rubio one of his best moments of the debate, giving him the opportunity to articulate why he thinks it's important for the united states to have a powerful role in the world. but when it comes to marco rubio one thing missing from this debate that we certainly saw in the last one was the drama between jeb bush and marco rubio. they each stuck to what they wanted to talk, vis-a-vis policy, vis-a-vis their proels and their plans and actually pretended like the other wasn't even on the stage, john, christine. >> all right, thank you, helpin

during the eisenhower days, the tax rates were that high, 92%. it was on people who made quite a bit of money in that time. when we adjusted for inflation, we're talking about people being taxed at over 1.7 million of income. >> brangham: so if you compare that to people earning equivalent amount today, what kind of numbers are we talking about for today? >> today the top tax bracket is about 39.6 and for individuals, it's people who make just over $413,000. so it's a little bit different than today. they were higher then. >> brangham: okay, so a true for senator sanders there. let's listen next to something former secretary of state hillary clinton said about stagnant american wages. >> i have made very clear that hardworking middle class families need a raise, not a tax increase. in fact, wages adjusted for inflation haven't risen since the turn of the last century. >> brangham: you and your clegs rated this as only half true. why is that? >> right, well lit reallily when we looked at the government statistics, she wasn't quite right. the media

. >> eisenhower's deportation of immigrants. it would drop immigrants in the middle of the desert. others were shipped off on cargo ships. how would your plan be different? >> very humanely done. >> how? >> very important. it's a whole management thing. you know, good management, practices. >> that's 11 million. >> it will be very, humanely done. the biggest applause last night by far was when i said we will build a wall. >> that's well and true. but what about getting the people -- if it's more than 11 -- >> we will do it very humanely and hopefully they'll be coming back. we will do it very humanely it's going to happen. it has to happen. >> katy tur, it must be an experience for you to maintain some kind of civil relationship with that fellow. you challenge him and he always seems to come back and simply state almost definitionally because he says it it is true. i'm going to dump 11 million people across the border and some are going to do it nicely. humanely is a nice we use about dogs that get dumped on the street. humane society. it's an odd word. your thought about his nomen

i like susan eisenhower. she's brilliant. she is quite a smart lady.ie: she was strongly opposed. so, you didn't like the word "star" architect. frank: star-chitect. the press invented it and used it as a term against you. paul: it is all about the celebrity architect. it is a bad term, in a way. there is something cheap about it. charlie: it says there is something more than talent. paul: it says it is about celebrity, not about talent. paul: on the one hand, it is that architecture is more about celebrity than it used to be, but there is a misunderstanding about what architecture is about and what it is trying to do. frank: in hindsight, there was a -- paul: it is not so easily translatable. charlie: i want to show a series of images, to give some sense of the broadness of this man's life and work. standing in front of his completed house in santa monica. this is an santa monica, california. not quite finished yet. how long did it take you to finish? frank: i don't know. i don't remember. it wasn't that long. charlie: this is the sketch of the guggen

the eisenhower plan? me play what katy tur said to trump on the campaign trail in new hampshire when she pressed him for more specifics here, mark. >> reporter: eisenhower's 1952 deportation of immigrants, that was at times anything but humane. it would drop immigrants off in the middle of the desert. many died of heat stroke. others were shipped off on cargo ships under hellish conditions. there were inquiries into those ships. how with your plan be different? >> very humanely different. it's called good management, good management practices. >> mark, how long can that answer, you know, please people, good management, and eisenhower we're talking about 1 million, estimated 11 million now. and what does trump mean by "good management"? when does he need to provide more on this? >> absolutely right, tamron. being, there are no specifics other than it would be great. it would be huge. it would be humane. but of course, we don't know. and we already have cost estimates on what it would take to actually depor

they never came back. >> eisenhower's policy at the time was named eerpgs wetback. it was implemented in 1954. it deported undocumented immigrants deep into mexico. many of them were immigrants who came through war time programs and their temporary contracts were not renewed. it is unclear, one detail trump did not mention, the transfer process is widely critized as humane. others drowned during transport in overloaded ships. trump's claim, reality check finds is true, cnn reality check is misleading as well. all right. the republican presidential debate with plenty of heated moments. "new day" picks up the story right now. >> we either have a country or we don't have a country. >> come on, folks, we know you can't pick them all up, ship them back across the border. it's a silly argument. >> you cannot be a conservative if you keep promoting new programs that you will not pay for. >> i know siren a committed isolationist. i'm not. >> do you think defending this nation is expensive. try not defending it. >> we must take our government back. >> i have no problem with

let me just tell you that dwight eisenhower, good president, great president, people liked him. i like ike, right? the expression. i like ike. moved a million 1/2 illegal immigrants out of this country, moved them just beyond the border. they came back. moved them again, beyond the border, they came back. didn't like it. moved them way south.

now with eisenhower's plan, you know a lot of people never heard of it. plan.ay there was no now they found out i'm right. turned out i was right on the anchor baby. you can't come into the country. you are illegal. sit down, you you have your baby, and take care of the baby for the next 85 years. you need a constitutional amendment. it will take 15 years. it will never happen. you don't. you don't. you need a simple act of congress. need that.ot even for years people thought you go to mexico, try having a baby in mexico, and say that baby is going to be a mexican citizen. it. they would laugh at you so hard.

eisenhower did deport over a million mexicans. it was a little program the united states government actually called "operation wetback." so you might want to update that button to "i like ike with significant reservations." ( laughter ) ( applause ) but when it came to foreign policy, trump showed why he has an edge over other candidates. >> as far as syria, i like if putin wants to go in. minutes." we were stable mates. we did very well that night. >> stephen: i'm not sure why trump called the two of them "stable mates." it's either a metaphor for their powerful friendship, or donald trump doesn't know which one of these things is vladimir putin. ( laughter ) ( applause ) it's the one on top. the one on top. the one on top. and one of the most talked about moments of the night came from florida senator and tampa's number-one realtor of 2013, marco rubio. >> for the life of me, i don't know why we have stigmatized vocational education. welders make more money than philosophers. we need more welders and less philosophers. >> stephe

eisenhower and he is suggesting that what he is calling g r is not that different from eisenhower, with suggests that republicans have really changed. the other thing is, and i think this is more important, though it, is that early on, he had the chance to explain to people as to where he is on foreign-policy issues, but he did not take that chance. he gave a nod to the situation of paris and how terrible things are in the world today and immediately turned to his economic message. steve: i gave up -- i heard a lot of stuff from his standard stump speech. dennis: right, and so we don't hear new things quite a lot, but, again, he certainly is a heavy weight on that stage, i think. hillary clinton was a -- anstacey: and well come back to live coverage of the post-debate. here is video of hillary clinton at her post-debate party. things wrapped up at drake university just a few minutes ago. she had a whole host of fans waiting to greet her. steve: she did and here is something that you will be familiar with. we have a public affairs program and the show is "matter of fact," and there is a

dwight eisenhower. you don't get nicer. you don't get friendlier. they moved 1.5 million people out. we have no choice. we have no choice. >> so he -- >> governor bush -- >> just -- >> what happened to my question -- >> i'm going to have my back. >> first of all -- >> governor -- >> you should let jeb speak. >> listen -- >> in the state of ohio -- >> governor -- >> the fact is all i'm suggesting we can't ship 11 million people out of this country. children would be terrified and it will not work. >> mr. trump -- >> let me just -- >> built an unbelievable company worth billions and billions of dollars i don't have to hear from this man, believe me. i don't have to hear from him. >> what kasich said played well in that room. but donald trump scores incredibly well on illegal immigration. >> he mentioned dwight eisenhower. in the day, this is something that democrats supported. harry truman was doing some version of this. this went on for a long while. and the biggest debate they are having about dwight eisenhower is what is his monument going to look

dwight eisenhower. you don't get nicer. you don't get friendlier. they moved 1.5 million people out. we have no choice. we have no choice. >> so he -- >> governor bush -- >> just -- >> what happened to my question -- >> i'm going to have my back. >> first of all -- >> governor -- >> you should let jeb speak. >> listen -- >> in the state of ohio -- >> governor -- >> the fact is all i'm suggesting we can't ship 11 million people out of this country. children would be terrified and it will not work. >> mr. trump -- >> let me just -- >> built an unbelievable company worth billions and billions of dollars i don't have to hear from this man, believe me. i don't have to hear from him. >> what kasich said played well in that room. but donald trump scores incredibly well on illegal immigration. >> he mentioned dwight eisenhower. in the day, this is something that democrats supported. harry truman was doing some version of this. this went on for a long while. and the biggest debate they are having about dwight eisenhower is what is his monument going to look

dwight eisenhower's policy was almost anything but. it was not humane.eople up and drive them to very strategically placed remote locations. they weren't given the resources to survive and many people did die as part of that policy. and i think people are starting to like look at this policy a little bit more discriminately and say let's look at the details, and he's saying words like deportation force. that seems very real to imagine a law enforcement literally lined up just to take people out of the country. >> donald trump not the only person people are talking about. marco rubio getting a little bit of momentum here. and i think a lot of people say he sort of hit his stride on this last debate here but fellow republicans a little shy to take him on. why is that? >> i think with ben carson and donald trump rounding up half the electorate it's easier to go for them. it's easier to go where the ducks are, and marco rubio has something like 12% right now. it's not enough to really fight him yet. i think as we go on, and as he gains momentum, which most p

you don't get nicer, dwight eisenhower. >> some are slamming donald trump for his eisenhower analogy but yesterday donald trump stood by his plan and even proposed a so-called deportation force to expedite the process. >> is you're going to have a deportation force and you're going to do it rue mainly and you're going to bring the country -- frankly, because you have some excellent, wonderful people, some fantastic people that have been here for a long period of time. they're going back where this he came. if they came from a certain country they're going to be brought back to their country. that's the way it's posed to be. they can come back but they have to come back legalpy. >> here tonight with reaction, "sold out -- high-tech billionaires and boif --" if you're from central america, from el salvador, from nicaragua and you go into mexico illegally, do you know what happens to you when you get caught. >> what happens. >> it is horrible. it's horrible. it's inhumane. it's horrible, inhumane treatment. >> you get put in jail or you are get deported. >> it's terrible. terrible. >> m