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the reopening of black sites, the re-examination whether we ought to go back to eits like waterboardingor some other form, all of this i think is deeply disparaging to the country. it costs us relationship with allies who won't want to cooperate with us if they believe that that may lead to the repopulating of guantÁnamo or someone that may help us in the process of detaining or arresting will be sent to a black cut somewhere. so from a counterterrorism perspective, intelligence cooperation perspective, i think it's also deeply damaging to the final point i will make is, i think it's corrosive to the morale of the ic should we ever get back in the business of enhanced interrogation techniques. i don't think they can help but have an impact on the people who participate in it, and those who support it, though i think for the benefit of our own personal it's not something we should engage in either. >> we haven't engage in waterboarding since 2004 and somehow we managed to keep our country safe. we haven't used black sites since president bush into the black sites, and that's not a mistak

and then based on the list we nar eit down based on our resource squz then assess the business owner.in, assess on the physical environment, the business operation and their community engagement pieces. and from what we learned then we create a individual develop plan and this vej development blan plan is outline for the actionoffs the business owner and city needs to take to make sure they move toward becoming a healthy retailer. we outline step by states the budget for the items. from there for example the business operation piece is a list of things we work on and look at. if they need access to capital we refer to the partners that provide loans, merchandise training we set up for those including business planning and so forth. i'll pass it over to susana to talk about the physical changes. >> great. i will continue talking about the implementation of this individualized development plan and so, as far as improving the physical environment, the first thing we do is work with city associate squz they go into the store and essentially measure the store and then do a post schematic,

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he was only subjected to eit's for 14 days. that's two weeks. out of another like 220 weeks?le information the u.s. government got. and now this judge is allowing some of these terror detainees as i understand it to move forward with a lawsuit against you, and potentially others who work for the cia saying that, you know, here you were trying to protect america and now a judge is saying you might, you know, this lawsuit begins you pushed by terror detainees might move forward? >> yeah. if you got a second, i would like to explain that. abby: please do. >> i have never heard of two of these people who are suing me until the lawsuit showed up in 2015. one of them is a terrorist who was a member of al qaeda in east africa. and was a facilitator for the bombing of two u.s. embassies in 1998. the one in nairobi kenya and tanzania. the other one that i never heard of until 2015 was -- ran a terrorist training camp in afghanistan, training jihadists to attack american troops. he had a life sentence in libya until the government collapsed and they let him out. and the aclu drug these

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