people from el paso, trying to send the message that what the president has been saying about el pasos wrong that. is beto o'rourke forgeser congressman, lost the senate race to ted cruz. many people think before this month is out he will announce that he is running for president of the united states. not responding to questions just now. we expect to hear from him very, very shortly. we will bring that to you live when it happens. we should tell you the president said he would be happy to shut down the government to get money for the border wall. at this moment, house and senate negotiators are debating that and other border issues, trying to head off another border shutdown before friday. going into the weekend hopes were high they might get a deal done. those hopes faded but now somewhat maybe they unfaded over the last few hours because they've sat down for another round of talks. dana bash is following the action. she joins us now. what is the status right now with this new meeting? >> unfaded is definitely the word of the night, john berman. this is something that is coming from

start first with the president's trip to el paso. you represent el paso in the texas state senate. what your reaction to the president choosing el paso to hold a rally to champion for a border wall? >> well, i think, alex, it's outrageous, adding insult to injury after having made his statements in the state of the union, lying about el paso's safety. by now the country's finding out that el paso is one of the safest and has been one of the safest cities in the country, and this is not something that developed overnight. it's been the case over the past 30 years. i have firsthand knowledge, because i was the county prosecutor sdduring the time th wall was built and i assure you the wall did not have a big, contributing influence in the low crime rates in el paso. it was, in fact, community policing, community policing

we are not divided here el paso.rful barrier in place, el paso isn't one of the safe st place, el paso isn't one of the safest cities in the country. there is no doubt there is a huge difference in the crime rate between el paso here in texasjuarez across the way in mexico. over there, over 1200 murders. a 50 fold disparity. the question is, is the president right to say if the wall that makes all the difference? on the other side of the fence is mexico. el paso's mayor was one of those taken about by the president's use of his town to make a bigger political point. jono i'm not saying defence shouldn't be part of that order strategy. -- i am not saying. a mean, we are a sovereign strategy. -- i am not saying. a mean, we are a sovereign nation, we need to control our borders will stop as far as el paso's run rate, no, it was low before the fence came up no, it was low before the fence came up and it has remained lower. —— our borders. for two years after the fence went up in 2009, the crime rate actually rose on that

they didn't die in el paso. they died in the el paso sector.or the people that live and work on both sides and traverse it every single day, it's a complete laforeign idea, one not based on the realities on the ground. this is what it looks like, walking back and forth. >> we're going to talk a little later about all the reporting you've been doing over the last several years on this. and 28th congressional district. you're on that conference commit a that struck the deal that apoors luke it's going to be suned. what is your reaction to the announced intent to declare a nationalmergency? >> i disagree with the president because his visions of the border, all he sees is a crisis and who's dead wrong. for us we see the border as a place to raise our families, grow businesses. it's a place of community and opportunity. if you want to look at violence, for example. according to the fbi, the crime rate, the national crime rate for example, murders, is 5.3 murders for 100,000. the border crime rate is a lot lower and i'll take my home town of laredo.

border at el paso. and he described that bit of fencing as essentially solving all of el paso's problems. factually that's total horse hockey. el paso does have a very low crime rate, but that was the case long before that little bit of fencing was put up. so unless it's a time traveling bit of fencing, that whole argument never made much sense, and el paso knows it. nevertheless, the president is due to appear in el paso at any moment, making the case for building his magic wall on the border to keep immigrants out. and he of course will be making that pitch against the backdrop of what is another looming government shutdown over this very issue at the end of this week if that deal does not produce legislation that both houses agree to and that he consents to sign. you should also note tonight that el paso is little bit of a weird spot for the president to be holding this campaign rally tonight. it's weird because of the things he's been saying about el paso that's fundamentally is not true. it's also

that is not el paso. in the 2016 election, donald trump lost el paso by 43 points. 43-point win for hillary clinton in el paso county. to put into perspective how bad of a loss, donald trump lost by a bigger margin than blue blue state california. so el paso is a weird place for the president to rally his base around the idea of a border wall. el paso is not a weird place for what will go on across the street from the president's rally tonight, though. the president's rally is, we'll show you here, see that red dot? the el paso county coliseum, the location for the president's rally tonight. now, show the other thing here, go on. other red dot across the parking lot there. that's the acosta sports center. see how close the buildings are? they are .2 miles away from each other generously. but that acosta sports center, that place that is spitting distance, that is the site tonight of a counter rally against the president. tonight, thousands of people marched through the streets of el paso to protest agains

from 1993 to 2006, crime in el paso dropped 34%.ater in 2008, construction started on a border fence. meantime, from 2006 to 2011, violent crime went up 17%. city officials in el paso, republicans and democrats, appear fed up with this president's misrepresentations. they passed a resolution on monday saying they are disillusioned by president trump's lies regarding the border and our community. they are offering to meet with mr. trump so he can become properly informed. >>> possible democratic challenger beto o'rourke slamming the president's call for a border wall at his own march a few hundred yards away. >> oh, this is inspirig. this is the border standing up for itself. this is el paso selling our story. no one can tell it better than we can. a safe, strong community. that's who we are. >> later o'rourke told supporters el paso was a safe city not because of his border wall but because of it. he said treating each other with dignity and respect is the key to security. >> we stand for america and we stand against walls. there is

in four years, violent crime jumped 17% in el paso. we have a special report "out front" from the ground there. first i want to go to caitlin collins live where the president is about to begin that rally. caitlin, interesting choice of a location, right? the president's facts don't seem to or his numbers don't back up the reality and the facts. what does he think he is going to accomplish tonight? >> reporter: well, erin the president thinks this is a city that makes the wall work. the barrier fence we showed earlier on cnn, he believes that is the reason for that drop in vie hint crime, which he has been told by the texas attorney general, the mayor of el paso do not believe that is right. the numbers show the president's claim is not correct. but that's not likely for the president to make that argument tonight. i am told here, echoing what he made, said during the state of the union and making that architect as those shutdown talks back in washington have essentially stalled and are on the verge of collapse right now. the president

>> i think el paso has some also.types of federal agencies, the military is there and el paso is a great city in texas. but they already have the wallet. so, were thinking if that can spread along the border and we can funnel these people where they need to be then that's the best thing, along with good technology. >> to your point, what's missing in the media, we have gavin newsom calling us again saying it's a manufactured prices is that happening in places like walrus, mexico. >> it is. that's one of the murder capitalistcapitalof the world. other border towns are incredibly dangerous. >> what you make of gavin newsom pulling back u.s. troops from the border saying trump's fear mongering is the reason why he does not want the troops there. what you think of that? >> i think he is simply mistaken. what i would ask the governor if he really feels that way, if there is no fear in the border, why doesn't he take his family and have dinner on the other side of the border without his security detail. >> tells your story

here in el paso, my first trip to el paso. i'm so happy. we had an exclusive interview with president trump before the rally. my dear friend, texas lieutenant governor dan patrick. also monica crowley. and chris hahn, former aide to senator chuck schumer. a lot of ground to cover, not much time to do it. breaking news on the border deal, potential border deal between congressional negotiators. 1.375 billion for barriers but not walls. what is going on here? >> the president is going to build a wall of the end of the day no matter what they do so they need to quit messing around and either give them what he wants or understand he's going to move forward. tonight this was a bold move. for him to come to beto o'rourke's hometown, out draw him tonight, i think beto o'rourke's presidential campaign came to an end. he may run but it's over. when you can't carry her own town, when he turns out a crowd like this, it's over for beto o'rourke, and all the democrats are going to seize on this tomorrow morning and say look what beto did. he was an emba

. >> el paso has a border barrier between the two cities, juarez and el paso.curity at all and it's a freeway for the cartels. lou: you can find judicial watch's documentary at judicialwatch.org. follow me on twitter and insta graham @loudobbstonight. good night from new york. trish: venezuela in chaos. that chaos escalating as nicolas maduro refuses to allow his people any humanitarian aid from the international community. i have exclusive new video showing the brutal length the socialist dictator is going to to make sure the military stays loyal to him. in this exclusive video watch as maduro loyalists try to provide speed rations of powdered milk with people effectively signing a loyalty

the rally challenged president trump's statements that a wall in el paso impacted crime rates. mr. on the telling the story of thelma white, he graduated -- douglas high from school in el paso in 1954. rep. o'rourke: denied entry because of the color of her skin. she did not allow that injustice to deter her or to dampen her and listing the services of a little-known attorney named thurgood marshall. they took that case all the way to the federal courtroom of another great el pasoan, and together, making their stancw for this community, -- stance for this community. whether it was those great el pasoans and great americans, or nolan richardson and bert williams, who working together, ordinance. one of the first cities in the former confederate states to do so. to do them made a stand so for el paso, not just for themselves, not just for people who look like them, not just with a generation with whom they lived. they did it for everyone including those of us who stand here today. the beneficiaries of their theyge and the stance made. that is our opportunity at this moment. with the

. >> el paso has a border barrier between the two cities, juarez and el paso. a freeway for the cartels. lou: you can find judicial watch's documentary at judicialwatch.org. follow me on twitter and insta graham @loudobbstonight. good night from new y >>> we reach an agreement in principle between us. >> progress is being made with this committee. just so you know, we're building the wall anyway, though we probably have good news but who knows. cheryl: who knows what's next for the shutdown showdown as lawmakers come to an agreement on border security. does it include enough to get president trump's stamp of approval? we've got details of the agreement. gerri: can an agreement be reached in beijing. u.s. and chinese officials enter day two of trade talks as the march 1st deadline looms. one u.s. official says that deadline will not be extended. cheryl: a short circuit for

el paso is a community ofmi es.ve mixed documentation, we have people who cross every day to come to take care of our children, take cese of our fami we have been a community united by border. we are not divided in el paso. pres. trump: with a powerful barrier in place, el paso is one of the safest cities in our country. gary: there is no doubt that there is a huge difference in the crime rate between el paso in texas and juarez across the ghway in mexico. here there were 23 murders last year. over there, a town admittedly twice the size, there were 1200. that is a 50-fold disparity. the question is, is the president right to say it is the wall that makes all the difference? >> on the other side of that fence is mexico. gary: el paso's republican mayor was one of those taken aback by 's use of his town to make a bigger political point.yo margo: i'm not saying a fence shouldn't be part of a border strategy. we are a sovereign nation anl need to contr borders. but as far as el paso's crime w rate, no, before the s it

right here in el paso. i don't care whether the smar a republican or a democrat, they're number of crap when they say it hasn't made a big difference. >> how do you feel hearing that? what would you answer be to that? >> i love to hear that over and over. the bottom line is, i've never been against a physical barrier on the border. i think that's part and parcel to an entire process. from a strategy stand point is, we're in control of the borders, we're a sovereign nation. i've never disagreed with the president on that, all i've tried to do is clarify his comments that we were not a lawless community with high crime rates before the fence went up under the bush presidency in 2008. certainly it is a contributing factor towards, to our safety here, but it is -- it was not the sole panacea prior to, that's all i've tried to say. i've not spoken against physical barriers of any type. i think that's a part of that whole process. you mentioned earlier there is 78 miles of fence in the el paso sector for the bord

they are anger how trump characterized el paso to pitch his wall during the state of the union. >> el paso, texas, used to have extremely high race of violent crimes. now immediately upon its builder, with a powerful barrier in place, el paso is one of the safest cities in our country. >> as the president tries to reenergyize its base, the country is days away from the second shutdown. negotiations between democrats and republicans collapsed over the number of beds i.c.e. can use to house undocumented immigrants. negotiators will regroup today and try to reach an 11th hour compromise. the only thing they agree on is how unlikely it is to compromise. >> we can't definitively rule out a government shutdown at the end of this week. >> what you are hearing is 50/50. it is 50% hope and 50% not. we are at an impasse which is not unusual at this point. >> talk to stall right now hoping we can get off. >> the issue we have been raising is the number of beds available, enforcing the administration to prioritize the use of those beds. >> i promise you this, donald trump is not going to sign any

i speak to people in el paso, to republicans in el paso, and they don't buy that at all.are not really criticizing him very strongly,hey say that when el paso had a high crime rate, that is because the was war with the drug carts across the border. orat was falling, falling substantially, befthe wall went up. ironically, jane, the crime rate went up in the two years after the wallas finished. jane: what are we expecting him to say tonight? gary: well, i think you will see him double down on his message. you will be talking, as the it -- he will be talking, as he is, at these maga rallies to the converted.is s the first big campaign rally, if you like, of the new year. you could see this as a bit of i kick-othe long road to the general election at the end of next year. of course, he will be keeping a close eye on what is happening in wasngton with those gotiations. the really interesting political thing is that a mile down the road from here, he wil beto o'rourke, the congressman, raagainst ted cruz, former congressman from this town, rising star in the democratic party, p

controversialvery about el paso. he says when a border barrier went up there, crime and immigration numbers went down. fbi data and other data suggests the crime rate started falling two years before that barrier in el paso went out. at the same time he is on the stage in el paso, beto o'rourke, who gave republican senator ted cruz a real run for his money in november in the midterms, he will hold a counter rally. this will be an early 2020 snapshot. i expect cable news to have both men on the screen and separate -- in separate boxes. not see any reason to think the president will resist taking a couple shots at mr. over. -- mr. o'rourke. host: the republican mayor of el paso has commented in "usa today," talking about the debate of the city and immigration. contrary of what you may see or hear, our relationship with mexico has ushered in a new era of economic growth. i implore policy visors from the federal government to talk with our residents, you at our restaurants, walk our streets. you will find our city is saf

this is el paso. while texas is a red state. el paso ended uin v 69% for hillary clinton in 2016.-- this is not big trump country at all. the other thing that's going on, th president has talked about how a border wall ended up reducing violent crime in el paso but the statistics the barrier was dconstructed. then after ward crime went and historically el paso has a low crime rate for a city its size. >> you watch the numbers better than anyone in the building. what is the public seeing about the debate, and what's happening in el paso? are they seeing the president's side or the other side? >> it's both. how you get your knews. i'm from the u.s./mexico border. mcallen, where the president visited last h.mo peop adbout mcallen, my folks still live there, this is a violent place. that's not really the case. yes, it's a thoroughfarele for l immigration and drugs ut when you talk about the overall crime rates there, it doesn't come close to d.c. or new york, which i find safe cities the last couple years. so ihink over all this has been trumped up a little bit even thoughhose conditi

that is el paso, texas. i am glad the country is here to see us. [cheers and applause] o'rourke: we stand for the constitution of the united states of america and against emergency national security declarations that would allow the president to subvert equal branch of government, build a wall when we do not need it. 1.6 million apprehensions the first year of the george w. bush administration, a little more than 300,000 last year. you know who we are apprehending? kids, children, if they are lucky with their moms or dads walking 2000 miles. if they are lucky, a top, not inside the train, known as the beast. surviving every manner of depredation and those who prey mostman misery and their honorable and desperate -- vulnerable and desperate moments. an idea that is america, we will not take advantage of them. we will not send them back to certain death. we will not believe that walls can or should keep them out. arms.come them with open we can meet this moment and our obligations to one another and the all the stronger for it. we together, we are ma

according to crime data analyzed by the el paso time, violent crime in el paso peaked in 1993.fence construction didn't begin until 2008. violent crime fell long before the fence was built in el paso. violent crime fell 34% between the years of 1993 and 2006 and dee margo is the republican mayor of the city of el paso, texas. thank you for being on, sir. >> thank you. >> all right. so next week, four days before the government could shutdown again, president trump is holding a rally in your city. his first rally of 2019. are you looking forward to seeing the president? >> well, hopefully, we haven't confirmed. i've been saying for months if people want to understand the border and immigration and all of the sundry issues related to it, they need to come down to el paso. we're the largest u.s. city on the mexican border. the united states and mexico and we're actually one region of 2.5 million people. >> and so since you i know these stats so well, the president comes down and repeats these false claims about el paso or false claims about the border, are you prepared to fact che

adolpho telles/ el paso gop chairman: "i don't think so." el paso republicans, like adolpho telles, say trump is still right about what a border wall can do to cut down crime and threats.adolpho telles/ el paso gop chairman: "if you were living in a house and you knew that there were illegal people wandering around your house at 2 o'clock in the morning, is that a serious crime from your perspective? people just get quiet when you put it that way."silvestre reyes is a former democratic congressman of el paso, and spent nearly 30 years as the top border patrol agent along this stretch of the border.he remembers when a simple chain link fence was the border wall. silvestre reyes/ former border patrol sector chief: "it was ineffectually referred to as the tortilla curtain."reyes says there's enough border wall already in place and he says the president is lying to make the case for more.ed lavandera/ cnn: "when you hear the president say el paso used to be one of the most dangerous cities in the country before the wall?" silvestre reyes/ former

el paso also very important for a variety of the reasons. the president of the united states has used it as somewhat of a success story, if you will, claiming that there was a huge problem with crime there calling it one of the most dangerous cities in the united states until a fence was built and now it's all better. big problem with that is, it's just not true. people on the ground say the president is lying about el paso. we're likely to hear some of that tonight. meanwhile, all of this is going on as the border negotiations continue on capitol hill. one of the things that is interesting, the president has been lashing out a couple times accusing the democrats are trying to move the goal post, if you will. especially on that issue of capping the number of detainees i.c.e. can take in. here's what the president said on twitter. the democrats do not want us to detain or send back criminal aliens. this is a brand-new demand. so the president actually misstating what democrats are saying as you know and as sunlen just reported. what's really

this is his first trip to el paso. it is a windy day out here in el paso. crowds have been coming since last night, making sure they could get a spot and get a seat at this rally, as this is his first trip to the border land. i'm joined by jamie harris. she came out this morning. jamie, what are you hoping to hear from the president when he speaks tonight? >> mostly what he's been saying, but mostly i want to show him my support and el paso support to say we're not all against him, that we are for him. he's for children. he's for the unborn. i'm for him. >> reporter: the president talked about el paso during the state of the union address last week. what was your reaction? >> i wasn't offended. he's right. it's a safe city. it's very safe. we're one of the safest cities for several years. but we also have the fbi here, we have a wall. we have ft. bliss. we're a safe city. i think every area needs the wall. there are openings between the wall. it's important. >> reporter: el paso former congressman beto o'rourke will also be having a counter protest across t

and he's in el paso, texas, tonight.he case obviously, which he just stated in the state of the union address, that he believes that the wall made people safer. at the same time, we have a dueling rally on the other side. we were just watching congresswoman escobar who took the seat that beto o'rourke vacat vacated. let's listen to this for just a second here. [ crowd chanting ] >> i'm so proud of this community at this defining moment of truth. the eyes of this country are on us now. here we are at the center. of the -- >> martha: that's beto o'rourke. we're going to keep an eye on that. we're live in el paso tonight with the very latest. kristen. >> reporter: if you take a look at the banners behind me, you can see -- [ crowd noise ] [ inaudible ] -- make the case in the state of the union last week -- >> martha: tough to hear kristen. it's obviously a very loud crowd there. we'll get back to her if we can get that fixed. here now, geraldo rivera. you have the heart of the debate going on at this moment in el paso. you

el paso has been one of the safest cities in the united states for 20 years and counting.we came here, it increased, it did not increase. we need to treat one another with respect. >> you can see we were in a tight gaggle there. a mass of humanity. we asked him, your supporters do not want a wall, do you agree and he said i do not want a wall, el paso is a very safe place. when i asked his supporters if you were president would you create a sanctuary country, every single supporter i asked that question of said yes, we want to sanctuary country. it's important to keep that in mind. it was an enlightening experience, we learned a lot but his supporters are fervently in support of him. i don't know if he goes up against others before and if elizabeth warren's supporters have the same passion so the president is correct, his crowd is bigger, the supporters of beto o'rourke are in his favor. we will talk to them coming up during the course of the morning at 6 am eastern. it will be a blast. >> interesting, you wonder, everybody was thinking about who is going to win this duel

tonight, he's hoping to make an example out of el paso, texas. >> the border city of el paso, texas, used to have extremely high rates of violent crime. now, immediately upon its building, with a powerful barrier in place, el paso is one of the safest cities. >> reporter: but it's not true. el paso has never been one of the most dangerous cities in the country. it had a low crime rate well before its border fence went up. dee margo is el paso's mayor, a republican. >> we are the safest city in the nation, according to fbi statistics, but it's not as a result of the border fence. >> reporter: what is the message from el paso to president trump? >> we need to control our borders, but there are other ways to do it, besides just focusing on that single physical barrier. >> reporter: also joining in the opposition, former congressman and potential 2020 rival, el paso native beto o'rourke. >> we will meet lies and hate with the truth. >> reporter: he's headlining an anti-trump rally tonight, the same time as the president's, about a half mile away. >> all right, cecilia vega joins us live

people here in el paso, not just o'rourke, but people here in el paso were offended by the way the president has talked about their city. so putting this rally together, you've seen some pushback on the idea that this is against the president. they're very careful to say that this is a rally tonight that would be for the city of el paso. the idea would be to try to define the city of el paso itself and not as what the president has tried to define it, as somehow a dangerous city that was somehow saved by the wall you see behind me. the idea that this is politically important for o'rourke really can't be understated. his candidacy in the senate for the texas senate race caught fire, in part, because he was able to draw and inspire these large crowds. he's been off the political map since really the first week of november, with the exception of his speech or his interview with oprah. the opportunity tonight to draw a massive crowd again, to show people again his ability to inspire will be a big political moment. the coliseum the president is speaking in tonight holds 6,000 people. if o'rourke

el paso had a giant crime problem.ey built a wall and the crime was solved. >> when the wall went up, was it better? you were there. some of you. it was not only better, it was like 100% better. >> go to el paso. they have a huge wall arc huge barrier. they had a huge spike in violent crime. it went way up and came way down. the problem is the wall was built down in this area. the crime went up after that it had nothing to do with the wall that. claim by the president is simply false. one more he likes to make is about how much drug traffic is coming in over that open land out there, where there is no big perrie perrier. >> a big majority of the big drug loads, don't go through ports of entry. they can't. you can't take big loads. you have people. we have capable people the border patrol, law enforcement looking. >> we don't know when he says big drugs, big leds? monetary values? we do know this, the drug enforcement official he is citing there say most of the drugs come through the official ports of entry. look at her

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you would have people pouring in trunk is not popular in el paso he won only about twenty five percent of the vote here in two thousand and sixteen while the president was being cheered by his supporters inside the el paso county coliseum a protest of his visit was underway outside led by former el paso congressman and potential democratic presidential contender in two thousand and twenty or rourke o'rourke pushed back against trump's message of fear let's make sure that we refer to our human beings our fellow human beings with kindness with respects with dignity let's not be afraid of our own shadow or of who we are let's own this moment in the future and show the country there's nothing to be afraid of when it comes to the us mexico border. many people here are upset with trump's false claims that el paso was a cesspool of crime and violence before a border barrier was built here in two thousand eight hundred last time he said a couple of lines so i don't. i don't know if you care to like tell me more lines as lived here all my life i will say the mayor of el paso and other officials

he will head to el paso's border wall funding. we kick off our coverage from texas. >> president trump heading to el paso for the first campaign rally for the year. republicans want an exception for criminals. they want the brand new demand crazy. white house officials say if lawmakers can't come to an agreement another partial government shutdown could happen leaving 800,000 federal workers in limbo once again. >> know some republican senators aren't sure he has that authority. >> it's probably a gray area in terms of the legality of it. i would rather not go down that road. this should be resolved through the legislative process through a compromise. >> now, he also said that the president has instructed him to go through the law and find money in any place that he could. before leaving to head here the president reiterated demand they need a wall. you can guess where it is headed if they don't come to a deal soon. >> all right. thanks so much. let's check about this with our experts. four days until the government runs out of m

his comments about el paso being unsafe and being untrue. and they are so worried that the county commissioners and the county judge passed this resolution today in which they say they are disillusioned by his lies regarding the border and the committee. i have not seen such an unwelcoming committee for the president and one of his rallies for a long time. it shows you how up set they were about his mention of el paso in the state of the union speech. it could draw thousands of people to the current elected officials and i asked escobar about that in her press conference and here is what she said. >> this is his opportunity to truly see the community and frankly his opportunity to see the consequences of policies that his administration put in place that many of us have deemed rule, ineffective, and inappropriate. >> what do you want him to take away? >> that his lies will not go unchallenged. >> you will hear a lot of that kind of language tonight and from the other speakers here. and the shut down debate about the border wall, this will re

the focus is going to be the fencing here in el paso. beto o'rourke, who is mulling a potential 2020 bid is going to be holding a counter-rally here tonight about a mile away. >> mollie and beto herein voting you to join us in el paso this monday in a march for truth. >> 3 million more people are expected to owe money to the irs this year. do you know why? the new republican tax plan, but it gets worse. the number of people receiving a refund has dropped -- has dropped by nearly 25%. and those who do still get money back, their check is going to be smaller. with refunds down an average of 8%. >> by the time we get to 2020, donald trump may not even be president. in fact, he may not even be a free person. [ cheers and applause ] >> one of the raps on using your tough boss, several stories will come out in the last week -- >> i am tough. i push people, that is true. but my point is that i have high expectations for myself. i have high expectations for the people that work for me. and i have high expectations for this country. >> they say y

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in a remarkable coincidence of timing as trump visited el paso we're broke in washington of a budget breakthrough to prevent another looming government shutdown. we can reach an agreement in principle. between. homeland security and the other six bills. we our stance will be working feverishly to put all the particulars together people familiar with the talks reportedly say the deal would give trump only enough money to erect just eighty eight kilometers of border barrier still a long way from the large scale project trump says he won't give up on rob reynolds al jazeera el paso the acting u.s. defense secretary has arrived in the iraqi capital on a surprise visit patrick shanahan is expected to get an update on the country's progress in its fight against eisel while in baghdad he'll also discuss the future of american troops in iraq and syria shanahan spent the past two days in afghanistan where he met with president. pentagon she says the afghan government should be included in talks with the taliban to end the seventeen year war he says he's had no orders to withdraw u.s. troops a

making falsehoods of el paso, el paso is one of the safest cities in the nation, el paso was a city on fox news. how does that earth keep up with fiction of violence when even the sheriff -- they can't go to a live shot with the sheriff to backup their claims. >> that clip that you showed of the president speaking at the state of the union address, one of my favorite moment was congresswoman veronica escobar, she was one of the first to represent texas in congress, you can hear she says no mami. are you kidding me? she's representing el paso, this is ridiculous. i have been on fox news before. the problem is he's going on having audience who have no interest of truths or facts. a real sea of ignorant who has no type of curiosity about any of these things and they'll take the president's words even if it destroys the country they claim to solve so much or devastate children they claim to protect. the data you just showed violent crimes in el paso went down from 1983 to 2006. the data does not support his claim. there was a peak violent after 2008 which was wind base constructing a ba

they go to high school in el paso. there are 12 million crossings every year from juarez to el paso. this city functions with meco. here's what the sheriff of el paso county said. we can put it on the screen. it's sadded to hear president trump state falsehoods about el paso, texas, in an attempt to justify the wall. the facts are clear, this was a safe city long before the wall and long after the wall. he finishes with president trump continues to give a false narrative about a great city that truly represents what this great nation is about. this is nothing surprising for this part of the country. if you travel the border of texas with mexico and you talk to sheriffs along the border and we have, if you speak to as far as had i gal go county, you hear the president is not talking to the sheriffs here, not listening to the people here on the ground. he doesn't understand the nature of a city like el paso when each morning you see everyday traffic back and forth to mexico, stephanie. >> man, it's amazing to think what

many people here are upset with trump's false claims that el paso was a cesspool of crime and violence before a border barrier was built here in two thousand and eight since last time he said a couple of live so i don't. i don't know if you care to like to how my life as lived here all my life i will say the mayor of el paso and other officials have pointed out the city was among the safest in the u.s. even before the border barrier was built but trump scoffed at the local officials and their facts i don't care whether mare's a republican or a democrat they're full of crap when they say it hasn't been a big. five in a remarkable coincidence of timing as trump visited el paso we're broke in washington of a budget breakthrough to prevent another looming government shutdown. we reached an agreement in principle. between this poem that homeland security and the other six mills. we are stamps will be working feverish sleep to put all the particulars together people familiar with the talks reportedly say the deal would give trump only enough money to erect just eighty eight kilometers of bor

he also talked about crime and el paso, texas.s what he said. >> city of el paso, texas, used to have extremely high rates of violent crime. now immediately upon its building, with a powerful barrier in place el paso is one of the safest cities in our country. >> what's been the reaction to the president there, cal? >> reporter: well, the reaction is of a very prideful city of el paso, a city that was safe before the wall, craig. we heard in real time right after the speech from the sheriff of el paso county. he said it's sad to hear president trump spread falsehood about el paso. the facts are clear. it's true that el paso is one of the safest cities in the nation. it's never been considered one of the nation's most dangerous cities. he continues that president trump continues to give a false impression of what america is all about. we've travelled this border for the past few months. we've spoken to sheriffs along the border. we spoke to the sheriff of hidalgo county. he said in my county we don't need a wall. we need to coordin

why go to el paso and tell the people of el paso something they know is not true?the report before i came on. the guy sounds like a great reporter, i'm not familiar with him. the questions that were asked must have been odd. the residents of el paso were responding as if the president said el paso stinks, it's crime ridden, it's a no good city. what i've heard the president say it's one of the safest, beautiful cities in america we have today. as i talked to border patrol agents every day, to a man, to a woman, they want the border wall, they want the border fence. as we look at the statistics of those apprehended in el paso, in 2006 it was 122,000 people. in 2008 it was 30,000. 14,000 in 2009. so was there an incredible decrease in the amount of apprehensions there at the border crossing? absolutely stats show it was true. was a violent crime that wats different, i don't know. if you've got 30,000 compared to 122,000 coming over, one could assume crime is going to go down. interestingly, craig, the former mayor cook of el paso in 2013 told abc news the border wall

the person who is running the city of el paso, who is the mayor, who only has the citizens of el paso'sat heart, who is reading facts and giving him facts, but none of that matters because it doesn't fit with his reality. this is -- i want to give the facts, tara. violent crime in el paso peaked in 1993. it fell by 34% between 1993 and 2006. the wall was built two years after that in 2008 and 2009. >> and then crime actually went up 17% the next year. >> so what the hell is going on? >> what's going on is gaslighting, and it's the president who has backed himself into a corner with this b.s. line from the campaign about a border wall and creating this narrative that we were going to build a 30-foot concrete wall to wall everybody out, and you had people chanting for that. he boiled it down into this elementary-style, very, you know, juvenile chant where it's not even practical. border security experts i've spoken to and that i've worked with in the past have said to me, listen, yes, physical barriers work where necessary in conjunction with other things like technology, like more border

i love you, el paso. the country is counting on us.t's do it. >> reporter: it was not exactly a duel at high noon but a show but regardless which democrat faces trump the president made his case to spend billions on a border wall. >> walls save lives and save tremendous numbers of lives. >> reporter: his rally so close you could see him on the jumbotron behind o'rourke as he made the opposite case. >> we know walls do not save lives. walls end lives. >> reporter: o'rourke has captivated some democrats, searching for a candidate to believe in. despite narrowly losing his challenge to texas senator ted cruz last year, a point trump was eager to raise. >> a young man who has very little going for himself except he has a great first name, that may be the end of his presidential bid. >> reporter: long before o'rourke could ever take on trump he would have to survive an increasingly crowded democratic primary and he's yet to decide his democratic primary. >> reporter: how close are you? >> before the end of the month i'll make a decision. >>