as you were about to go to the rally on the ellipse. and he said something to you like, make sure the movements of the capitol does not happen. is that correct? >> that's correct. i spoke with him before we walked out that morning, and mr. cipollone said something to the effect of, "please make sure we do not go up to the capitol, cassidy, keep in touch with me, we are going to get charts with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen." >> do you remember which crime he was concerned with? >> in the days leading up to the sixth, potentially obstructing justice or defrauding the electoral count. >> let us hear about some of those concerns, that you mentioned earlier in one of your interviews with us. >> having private conversations late in the afternoon the third or the fourth, he was concerned it would look like they were obstructing justice, or obstructing the electoral college count. i apologize for probably not being very direct with legal terms here -- but obstructing what was happening on capitol hill or it looked, lik

dick march from the ellipse. take the effing mags away, and then they can march the capitol. >> mason, what we saw when the clubs are playing were photos provided by the national archives joined the president in the offstage tent, before his speech on the ellipse. you are in some of those photos, as well. i just want to confirm that is when you heard the president say that people word weapons were not there to hurt him, and they wanted to secret service to remove the magnetometer's? >> that is correct. the photos you displayed, we were standing in front of the tent with tvs, really close to where he would walk out to go onto the stage. these conversations happened 2 to 3 minutes before he took a stage at morning. >> let's reflect on that for a moment. president. trump was aware that a number of individuals in a crowd and weapons and were wearing body armor. here is what president trump instructed the crowd to do. >> we will walk down, and i will be there with you, we will walk down [applause] -- we will walk down

this says'this stays between us after the ellipse'. potus is going to have us march there/the capital. it cannot get out about about the second stage, because people will try to set up another and sabotage it. it can also not get out about the march because i will be in trouble with the national park service and all the agencies. but potus is just going to call for it, quote unexpectedly. and then on the morning of january 5th, ali alexander, whose firebrand concerned katrina pierson, sent a similar text to a conservative journalist. mr. alexander said, tomorrow, ellipse then u.s. capitol. trump is supposed to order us to the capitol at the end of his speech but we will see. >> ellipse, then u.s. capitol. so revealed today by the january six investigation, it was the plan all along for trump to say to the crowd that he was rallying just outside the white house. it was the plan all along for him to tell them unexpectedly that they should leave that rally's site and walk to congress. walk to the u.s. capitol building across town where co

alexander said, tomorrow, ellipse, then u.s. capital. trump is supposed to order us to the capital at the end of his speech,, but we will see. president trump did follow through on his plan using his january 6th speech to tell the supporters to march to the capital on january six. the evidence confirms that this was not a spontaneous call to action, but rather was a deliberate strategy decided upon in advance by the president. another part of the presidents strategy involved certain members of congress who amplified his unsupported assertions that the election had been stolen. in the weeks after the election, the white house coordinated closely with president trump's allies in congress to disseminate his false claims and encourage members of the public to fight the outcome on january six. we know the president met with various members to discuss a january six well before the joint session. the president's private schedule for december 21st, 2020, shows a private meeting with republican members of congress. we know that vice president pen

early that afternoon, president tromp instructed tens of thousands of supporters at and near the ellipse rally. a number of whom he knew were armed with various types of weapons to march to the capitol. after telling the crowd to march multiple times, he promised he would be with them and finished his remarks at $110.00 p. m. like this, we're going to walked out and i'll be there with you. we're going to walk down. we're going to walk down any one you want, but i think right here we're going to walk down, do the job football. so let's walk down pennsylvania review. by this time, the vice president was in the capitol, the joint session of congress to certified jo biden's victory was underway and the proud boys and other rioters had stormed through the 1st barriers and begun the attack radio communications from law enforcement informed secret service. and those in the white house situation room of these developments in real time, at the direction of president trump thousands more rioters march from the ellipse to the capital. and they joined the attack. as you will see in great detail to n

and so we did park at the ellipse and responded back to the white house. however the potus motorcade was placed on standby. we were told to stand by until they confirmed whether or not the president was going to go to the capitol. and so i may have waited, i would estimate, 45 minutes to an hour, waiting for secret service to make that decision. >> the waited at the white house for more than 45 minutes before being released. the committee is also aware that accounts of the angry confrontation in the presidential suv have circled widely since january 6. recent disclosures have also caused the committee to subpoena yet further information from the secret service, which we've begun to receive and will continue to assess. the committee is also aware that certain secret service witnesses have now retained new private counsel. we anticipate further testimony under oath and other new information in the coming weeks. after the secret service refused to take president trump to the capitol, he returned to the white house. what you see on the screen is a photo of him

when you arrived on the ellipse that morning were you planning on going to the capitol? >> no, we didn't actually plan to go down there. you know, we went basically to see the stop the steal rally and that was it. >> so why did you decide to march to the capitol? >> well, basically, you know, the president got everybody relied up and told everybody to head on down so we basically was just following what he said. >> after the president's speech as you were marching down to the capitol how did you feel? >> i was, you know, i'm angry. you know, after everything that was basically said in the speech, you know, a lot of the stuff he said he already put out in tweets. i've already seen it and heard it before. so i was already worked up and so were most of the people there. >> so as you started marching did you think there was still a chance the election would be overturned? >> yes. at that time i did. you know, because everybody was kind of like in the hope that, you know, vice president pence was not going to certify the election. you know, also the overwhelm time on our way

the president was still adamant to go to the capitol when he got off the stage at the ellipse. but his secret service detail was equally determined to not let him go. that led to a heated argument with the detail that delayed the departure of the motorcade to the white house. we have evidence from multiple sources regarding an angry exchange in the presidential suv, including testimony we will disclose today from 2 witnesses who confirmed the confrontation occurred. the first witness is a former white house employee with national security responsibilities. after seeing the initial violence at the capitol on tv, the individual went to see tony or not the deputy chief of staff in his office. this tornado was there with bobby engel. the president's lead secret service agent. this employee told us that mister are said the president was, quote, irate when mister engel refused to drive him to the capitol. mister engel did not refute what mister or said. the second witness is retired sergeant mark robinson of the dc police department who was assigned to the president's motorcade that

so we did depart the ellipse and we responded back to the white house. however, the potus motorcade was placed on standby. so we were told to stand by until they confirmed whether or not the president was going to go to the capitol. so i may have waited i would just estimate 45 minutes to an hour, waiting for secret service to make that decision. >> the motorcade waited at the white house for more than 45 minutes before being released. committee is also aware that accounts of the angry confrontation in the presidential suv have circulated widely among the secret service since january 6th. recent disclosures have also caused the committee to subpoena yet further information from the secret service, which we've begun to receive and will continue to assess. the committee is also aware that certain secret service witnesses have now retained new private counsel. we anticipate further testimony under oath and other new information in the coming weeks. after the secret service refused to take president trump to the capitol, he returned to the white house. what

. >> president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes tween leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home, he chose not to act. >>> witnesses said he was content to watch the the riot unfold and watch the electric and pectoral recount. >> count me among those who was hoping to see and unequivocal strong statement clearing out the capital. >> are you aware of any phone calls by the president of the united states to the secretary of defense that day? >> not that i'm aware of, no. >> showing the missouri center josh hawley running from the mob. >> make way. >> reporter: secret service members with vice president pence feared for their lives. >> there were calls to family members and so on and so forth. and for whatever reason, it was about to get ugly quickly. >> reporter: saying the president exacerbated their crisis with the tweet. >> for him tweeting that message about mike pence, that was pouring gasoline on the fire and making it worse. >> reporter: the day after the attack when the president refused to acknowledge his loss. >> congress has certified the election we a

and, so, we did park the ellipse and we responded back to the white house. however, we at the motorcade, the potus motorcade, was placed on standby, and, so, we were told to stand by until they confirmed whether or not the president was going to go to the capitol. so i may have waited, i would just estimate, 45 minutes to an hour, waiting for secret service to make that decision. >> the motorcade waited at the white house for more than 45 minutes before being released. the committee is also aware that accounts of the angry confrontation in the vptdle suv have circulated widely among the secret service since january 6th. recent disclosures have also caused the committee to subpoena yet further information from the secret service, which we've begun to receive and will continue to assess. the committee is also aware certain secret service witnesses have now retained new private counsel. we anticipate further testimony under oath and other new information in the coming weeks. after the secret service we feuds to take president trump -- refused to take president

president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home, he chose not to act. >> congressman kinzinger larger distilled the main lesson from that final hearing. as commander-in-chief on january 6th 2021, donald trump simply did nothing. but as the leader of the insurrection notes if you look at at it from that way, he did everything. he radicalized the mob, he did so for months with his big lie. he invited the mob to washington, d.c., he deployed them on to the steps of the capitol, and then on top of all of that he sat back and watched back his creation nearly destroyed the foundations of our democracy. joining me now is democratic congressman jim himes of connecticut. he's a member of the house intelligence committee. congressman, thank you so much for staying up late and being part of our special coverage tonight. let me broadly ask you sir if i can, your broad takeaways of this final hearing that we heard and overall the eight hearings that we witnessed? >> well thank you for having me a man. i think i was one of the las

as you can see on the screen, he tweeted out a link to the recording of his ellipse speech.n which he knowingly sent an armed mob to the capitol. but president trump made no comment about the lawlessness and the violence. i yield to the gentleman from illinois. >> next action president trump took was to tweet at 2:24 pm. what happened during 35 minutes between his last tweet at 1:49 into 24, his staff repeatedly came into the room to see him and plead that he make a strong public statement condemning the violence and instructing the mob to leave the david jakubonis. he did not capitol leave until 4:00 where he filmed his now infamous go home message. patrick maloney was a top white house leader. his reaction to his advice throughout the afternoon. >> when did you first realize that there was violence? >> i first realized it, it may have been on television or it may have been -- for it may have -- been, and i found out that people were, they weren't in the capital yet, and then i started watching it, and then i was aware. >> did you think [applause] [inaudible] . >> i thought

>>> former president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home, he chose not to act. >>> right now at 5:00, the january 6th committee zeros in on the president's choice not to act during the ride on the capital. there is new evidence leading lawmakers to set additional hearings. >>> and moving forward on the new covid vaccine and the strategy that health providers are whining to get people there shots. >>> hundreds of millions of dollars up for grabs in the third richest jackpot ever. you will see where you may want to buy a ticket coming up if you are feeling lucky this morning. streaming on roku, fire tv, apple tv and online. >>> it is 5:00 on your friday morning, thank you for starting the day with us, i'm laura garcia . >> i am marcus washington and we will have that news coming up in just a little bit, but first, let's get to laura garcia with the forecast. >>> you know, i always say why not, get your ticket, but you've got to buy that one of those little markets in your drive along the grapevine or something. thos

what will be clear, president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse, telling the mob to go home. he chose not to act. amy: the house juary 6 committee has accused donald trump violating his oath of office by refusing to call off the capil insurrection. we will air excerpts of thursday's hearing, including dramatic footage revealing vice president mike pence's own security team feared for their lives as trump supporters attacked the capitol while threatening to kill pence. >> we are coming out now. make a way. amy: outtakes of donald trump speech to the nation on january 7, the day after the insurrection. pres. trump: this election is not over. congress has certified the results. i don't want to say the election is over. i just want to say congress has certified the results without saying the election is over, ok? amy: all that and more, coming up. the white house has announced president biden has covid-19 and will work from isolation. biden confirmed the news in a short video posted on twitter ursday. pres. biden: this morning i tested positive for co

more than 3 hours after he stopped speaking at the ellipse. after he stopped speaking to a mob that he had sent armed to the capitol. that's when he tweeted a video telling the rioters to go home while also telling him them that they were special and that he left them. by that time, although the violence was far from over, law enforcement had started to turn the tide. reinforcements were on the way and elected officials were in secure locations. the writing was already on the wall. the rioters would not succeed. here's what was showing on fox news. the channel the president was watching all afternoon. >> back to brett baer with more information now. but we have our pentagon team, jen griffin, lucas tomlinson, not confirming the defense department has mobilize the entire dc national guard. 1800 troops take several hours. as i was mentioning before to get them up and running the army secretary ryan mccarthy setting up a headquarters at the fbi. you just heard from david spot that the fbi is also sending troops to the capital. >> it's no coincide

there were arrests made at the ellipse. there were arrests made en route to the u.s.lding. there weren't a lot of arrests made at the capitol because we were busy fighting for our lives. you know, even if had we made arrests, there was no place to put these people. every officer that was at the u.s. capitol was busy fighting to protect ron johnson's life, all the other members of congress that were inside the building and their staff, and their own lives, and the lives of the other police officers that were dragged into this, you know, crazy mess because of the former president of the united states and, you know, the lies that he spewed and those that were around him spewed. >> i want you to take a listen to what we heard from liz cheney tonight. >> there's no question that what we saw happen on january 6th was clearly an attempt to delay the count of the electoral votes. anybody who was there understands the violence that was involved. i'm frankly stunned that one of my opponents on the stage who is a member of the wyoming bar, who has sworn an oath as many of us on

and so, we did parked the ellipse, and we responded back to the white house. however, the motorcade was placed on standby. and so, we were told to stand on that point, until they confirmed whether or not the president was going to go to the capital. and so, i may have relayed it, i would just estimate maybe 4 to 5 to, 45 minutes to an hour, waiting for secret service to make that decision. >> the motorcade waited at the white house for more than 45 minutes before being released. the committee is also aware that accounts of the angry confrontation in the presidential suv and circulated widely among the secret service since january 6th. recent disclosures have also crossed the committee to subpoena yet further information from the secret service, which we've gone to receive, and will continue to assess. the committee is also we know that certain secret service witnesses have now retained new private counsel. we anticipate further testimony under oath, and other new information in the coming weeks. after the secret service refused to take president trump to the c

hey, we can't move the protecte, the president of the united states from the ellipse to the u.s. capitol, too dangerous, we're going back to the white house. your point right there is why wasn't that information relayed to the u.s. capitol? why weren't defenses bolstered very quickly because we had time. the u.s. capitol wasn't breached yet, so we had time to bolster the physical defenses of that building, and that did not occur, and that question needs to be answered very quickly. >> s.e., to you, i mean, we started this by saying that some of those around former president trump, former president trump himself who tried to use this element to discredit her testimony, the fact that we are talking about this and not that they knew that there were guns, that there were spears at the ends of flag poles of what was coming, how much of that is a victory for those who are trying to discredit hutchinson. >> let me just also add to alisyn's excellent point and jonathan's excellent point, the president said let them in they're not here to hurt me. he did not know that. there are threats a

this was the same employee who had met president trump in the oval office after he returned from the ellipse. president trump said nothing to the employ about the attack. he said only quote mike pence. let me down. was matthews, what was your reaction to president? trump's 6 o one tweak at that point i had already made the decision to resign, and this tweet just further cemented my decision. i thought that kenny re 62021 was one of the darkest days in our nation's history. and president trump was treating it as a celebratory occasion with that tweet. and so it just further cemented my decision to resign. others agreed with your assessment of their tweet. let's look at what they had to say. who asked you about this week before it was sent to the president . tell us about that conversation and everything that you said and he said to the best of your recollection. sure. so he said, what do you think of this? and i believe i saw the text message early on his phone and i remember saying to him the wording on the 1st sentence, i, i guess it's one long sentence. what are the wording on the 1st sent

they can march from the ellipse, take the effing dives away.arch to the capitol. >> miss hutchinson, what we saw in those clips were playing or photos provided by the national archives showing the presidents and the offstage tent before his speech on the ellipse. you are in some of those photos, as well. and i just want to confirm that that is when you heard the president confer say, the people with weapons were there to hurt him, and that he wanted the secret service to remove the magnetometer. >> that is correct, and the photos that you displayed we were standing towards the front of the tent with the tv's. really close to where he would walk out to go onto the stage. these conversations happened, 2 to 3 minutes after he took the states that morning. >> let's bring in msnbc legal analyst grant glenn kershner. according to hutchison, trump unease that some of his supporters we are that day. something to the capitol anyway, even hoping to join them. so, does this open up the former president to be criminally liable? >> yeah, this is what i woul

the draft tweet reads, i will be making a big speech at 10 am on january six at the ellipse south of the white house. please arrive early. massive crowds expected. march to the capitol after. stop the steal. although this tweet was never sent, rally organizers were discussing and preparing for the march to the capitol capital on the days leading up to january six. >> the hearing also focused on an unhinged december, 2020 meeting between trump and a team of election deniers who had been advising him on how to overturn the election. they wanted him to do a whole lot of crazy things including considering seizing voting machines. >> they brought to the white house a draft executive order that they had prepared for president trump to further his ends. what ensued was a heated and profane clash between this group and president trump's white house advisers. they traded personal insults, accusations of disloyalty towards the president and even exchanges to physically fight. >> they threatened to beat one another up in the white house. details of that night were revealed during a video of clo

that these individuals that they brought there on the ellipse would target u.s.apitol members of congress. and there would be violence. that was part of -- not full plan for january 6, but it was part of the plan. was to have that violent interaction between trump supporters and law enforcement and members of congress. >> you said you were ticked off. i know. you texted me. i said how are you doing, you said pissed. >> yeah. i said my blood was boiling. i guess it's one thing to to have a gut feeling that that was the case and then to hear somebody -- you know, express the the kind conversations that were taking place the things the former president had said in the indifference on the part of not just him, but people like mark meadows and the other members of the trump inner circle. it's infuriating. >> this is something that you had been talking about and others had been denying. in trump land. a select committee released police radio transmission describing the weapons people were carrying near the ellipse. >> gloks pistols in their waistband. >> weapon on his

this was the same employee who had met president trump in the oval office after he returned from the ellipsent trump said nothing to the employee about the attack. he said only quote, mike pence let me down. miss matthews, what was your reaction to president trump's 601 tweet? >> at that point i had already made the decision to resign and this tweet further cemented my decision. i thought that january six, 2021 was one of the darkest days in our nation's history and president trump was treating it as a celebratory occasion with that we, and so it just further cemented my decision to resign. >> others agreed with your assessment that we. let's hear what they had to say. >> who asked about this tweet before i was? sent >> the president. >> tell us about that conversation and everything he said and he said to the best of your recollection. >> sure. he said, what do you think of this and i believe i saw the text message on his phone, and i remember saying to him the wording on the first sentence -- i guess it's one long sentence, the wording on the first sentence would lead some to believe the p

and so, we did depart the ellipse, and we responded back to the white house. however, we, the motorcade was placed on standby. we were told to standby until they confirm whether or not the president was going to go to the capitol . so i would just estimate may be 45 minutes to an hour. waiting for secret service to make that decision. >> the motorcade waited at the white house for more than 45 minutes before being released. the committee is also aware that accounts of the angry confrontation in the presidential suv had circulated wildly among the secret service since january 26. recent exposures have also caused the committee to subpoena further information from the secret service, which we have begun to receive and will continue to assess. the committee is also aware that certain secret service witnesses have also obtained new private counsel. we anticipate new testimony under oath and new information in the coming weeks. after the secret service refused to take president trump to the capitol, he returned to the white house. what you see on the screen is a ph

pattern across the continent, warm air rolls in, spain, france, italy, uk, some temperatures could ellipse all-time highs. 105 in paris, 101 in london, less than degree from all-time record in the uk. dry, hot conditions fuelling wildfires continent wide. pattern back to the united states as well. jet stream well north, 110 in oklahoma city, in dallas, and pattern for rest of the week remains in place and expands, not just middle of the country but all the way to new england and the eastern seaboard. >> thank you. >>> jury selection under way in criminal trial of steve bannon, former adviser to then president donald trump. bannon charged with two counts of criminal contempt of congress for refusing to comply with subpoena from the january 6th committee. nikole killion. >> thanks for showing up. >> reporter: steve bannon waved to the cameras entering federal court. inside sat mostly masked with hands collapsed in jury selection. former trump adviser faces two counts of contempt of congress, each with penalty up to year in jail after defying a subpoena from the january 6th committee. >> noth

the stop the steal movement and helped organize a series of rallies including the rally held at the ellipse on january 6th. dustin stockton became disillusioned with trump after the attack on the capitol. in december he met with the january 6th committee and according to the committee stockton raised concerns that the rally at the ellipse could be dangerous ahead of time and those concerns were escalated to mark meadows. dustin stockton is with us now. dustin, thank you so much for being with us. you warned against the march to the capitol, the potential for danger in that. why and how high are you certain that that warning went? >> well, thank you for having me and goodnight from las vegas, i guess, good morning, to you guys on the east coast. yeah, so you have to give a little background. we actually held three rallies in d.c. after the election, one in november, one in december and then the one in january. the previous two had included a march from freedom plaza to the supreme court, which is about the same distance as from the ellipse to the capitol. to do that we had to be permitted, w

trump apparently wanted the secret service to remove the metal detectors at the speech on the ellipse, where he incited the riot. >> wouldn't we saw when those clips replaying where photos provided by the national archives showing the president on the offstage tenth before his speech on the ellipse. you are in some of those photos as well. and i just wanted to confirm that's when you heard the president say, the people war with weapons did not want to hurt them and he wanted the secret service to remove the metal detectors. >> that is. correct >> we also know that the secret service trying to find a way to get trump to the capital. >> when the president said that he would be going to the capital during his speech on the ellipse, the secret service scrambled to find a way for him to go. we know this from witnesses, and the secret service, also, from messages among staff on the presidents national security council. >> so the secret service ultimately decides that it could not comply with the ex presidents demands. >> so as the person got into the vehicle with bobby, he thought that they

on january 6th when donald trump was finishing up his speech on the ellipse. donald trump made this famous statement, we might like hell and if you don't fight like hell you are not going to have a country anymore, we are going to walk down to the capitol. we know now thanks to the testimony of cassidy hutchinson that he knew that that crowd was armed. as to what happens next it is a bit of a black hole but there are some important things we do know. we do know that all manner of republican dignitaries were frantically texting mark meadows, the chief of staff, begging him to get donald trump to do everything. one example donald trump jr. the president's own son texted he's got to condemn this blank asap. also about one hour into this crucial 187-minute period donald trump sends this fateful tweet at 2:24 p.m. you're going to hear a lot of references to the 2:24 tweet, that is this tweet where donald trump verbally attacks mike pence. we've seen the video of the crowd reading this tweet in realtime and breaking into chants of hang mike pence. finally the end of

, the rally at the ellipse in the morning, and the group who was planning a rally at the capitol.tting on the rally at the ellipse made several efforts to stop any other rallies from happening, specifically in part because the people who were organizing it were using vastly different rhetoric than we were using, far more revolutionary and violent and they were -- >> let me ask you, i just have 30 seconds left. when you talk about that rhetoric, did you hear it before the 6th as storming the capitol, was it that precise, those folks? >> it wasn't -- it's hard to go back and look now and say what was rhetorical and what wasn't. what we remember, though, is that tensions were extremely high, and we had an obligation to tamp those down to be able to present ourselves as a reasonable political movement. and there were people who were not following that, and they were the ones pushing people to go to the capitol, and we were pushing our people not to participate in that in any way, and of course when trump sent people to the capitol, it felt like an affront to us that he had kind taken

within minutes of stepping off the ellipse stage, donald knew about the violent attack on the capitol. from the comfort of his dining room, he watched on tv as the attack escalated. he sent tweets that inflamed and expressed support for the desire of some to literally kill vice president mike pence. for three hours, he refused to call off the attack. donald trump refused to take the urgent advice he received that day -- not from political opponents or the liberal media, but from his own family, his own friends, his own staff and his own advisors. in the midst of an attack, when there was no time for politics, people closest to trump told him the truth -- it was his supporters attacking the capitol and that he alone could get through to them. so they played for him to act, -- they pleaded for him to act, to place country above himself. still, he refused to lead and to meet the moment to honor his oath. it was only once the vice president and members of congress were insecure locations and officers defending the capitol began to turn the tide, that then president trump engaged in the po

alexander said, tomorrow, ellipse, then u.s. capitol.supposed to order us to the capitol at the end of his speech, but we will see. president trump did follow through on his plan using his january 6th speech to tell his supporters to march to the capitol on january 6th. the evidence confirms that this was not a spontaneous call to action, but rather was a deliberate strategy decided upon in advance by the president. upon in advance by the when you have technology that's easier to control... it's easier to be an innovator. so you can do more incredible things. [whistling] president. president. riders! let your queries be known. yeah, hi. instead of letting passengers wrap their arms around us, could we put little handles on our jackets? -denied. -can you imagine? i want a new nickname. can you guys start calling me snake? no, bryan. -denied. -how about we all get quotes to see if we can save with america's number one motorcycle insurer? approved. cool! hey, if bryan's not gonna be snake, can i be snake? -all: no. (vo) right now america de

this rally president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home. he chose not to act. hearing also saw previous the unpublished video showing donald trump refusing to say that the 2020 presidential election was over the alt tags from his address film. on january 7th, last year, show the president modifying the script. i would like to begin by addressing the heinous attack yesterday and to those who broke the law, you will pay. you do not represent our movement. you do not represent our country. and if you broke the law, can't say that. i'm not you. i already said you will pay the demonstrators who infiltrated the cap. have defied the seat of dusty file, right? she, i can't see it very well. okay, i'll do this. i'm going to do this. let's go. but this election is now, congress has certified the results. i don't want to say elections over, i just wanna say congress has certified the results without saying the elections over. okay. now. yeah. right now that is a or so little mission. don't good as her griffin. ok . i would

the president, president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home. he chose not to act from all its crossover to washington d. c and speak with the deputies, sumi, so must gander. good to see you soon after hearing damning accusations about what the former prisoner did in the lead up to january 6. thursday's evidence was more about what he didn't do. that's right, anthony. it was very much about those 187 minutes we heard reference in that clip. that was the time between when he spoke to a supporters at that rally on january 6th. and when he finally released that video, telling them to go home and in between, he essentially did nothing. i mean, we heard significant admissions showing that administration officials, members of the president's own family top republicans, even the fox news personalities. they were all imploring the chief of staff for president trump to get the president to do something to call off the mob. and that was essentially to no avail. and the president instead continued in those early hours of the

> we will paint a clear picture of what happened between the time he stepped off the stage at the ellipse. a reminder that he had just given a speech, a rallying cry to this mob that he had assembled in washington and led them to believe he was going to join them in marching to the capital. and then he went back to the white house. he really still wanted to go to the capital but went back to the white house. that is more than three hours that he sat in the white house and watch the events unfold. there was a flurry of action to try to get him and stand up to use the microphone to tell the rioters to stop. but he didn't do that until about 4:17 p.m. in the afternoon when it was clear what the rioters were trying to do to pressure the vice president. so we will go into a lot of detail. judy: do you know for a fact former president trump could have stopped the rioters from that attack? >> what i will tell you and we heard last week from a witness that he said when he got a message from the president at the 4:17 p.m. speech, which was not a very forceful message to stop, people watched and li

the rally president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and telling the mob to go home. he chose not to act. well let's a cross over to washington d. c and speak to d w. so meet some a scandal. so what stood out to you see me? well this hearing as we just heard in that clip, there was very much about that time, that 187 minutes between the moment that president trump spoke to his supporters at a rally on january 6th. and when he finally gave that video message, telling the writers to go home and what stood out is that we heard administration officials, members of president trump's family like of uncle trump. his daughter, fox news personalities, were essentially imploring the chief of staff all day on january 6th to try to get the president to publicly speak and try to call off the mob. and that was to no avail. the president said, continued into the early hours of the riot, to eg, the mob on with tweets. and i thought it was significant that we also saw that the vice president really wasn't grave danger. members of insecurity staff actually w

we're having a second stage at the supreme court again after the ellipse. potus is going to have us march there, slash the capitol. it cannot get out about the second stage because people will try and set up another and sabotage it. it can also not get out about the march because i will be in trouble with the national park service and all the agencies, but potus is going to just call for it, quote, unexpectedly. the end of the message indicates that the president's plan to have his followers march to the capitol was not being broadly discussed. >> we know that that's spot on, that it wasn't in his prepared remarks. he adds it, cassidy hutchinson can't even hear it. do you think they have the answer to how the organizer knew just what trump was going to do? >> when lynndal says this and she's expecting trump to say that also, and the question is how does that get from donald trump's spontaneously saying it to them knowing about it? was there a phone call? are there white house logs that show those conversations? i don't know if we're going to hear recordings

the violence rally president trump did not fail to act during the 187 minutes between leaving the ellipse and towing the mob to go home. he chose not to act. so how did you estimate his get to this point, while d, w 's? so me, some us gander has been taking a look back at the time. one of the events leading up to these hearings. they cheated, and they rigged our presidential election when we were still with 4 days after the electors met across the country and made joe biden, the president elect. donald trump was still trying to find a way to hang on to the president. president trump summoned the mob assembled the mob and lit the claim of this attack. ah, january 6th, 2021. the u. s. found itself in crisis. a defeated presidential candidate and his inner circle refused to accept the election results and looked for ways to subvert it. and a mob attacked the capital right here to try to stop certification of the vote. now the u. s. is reckoning with what happened and who might be held accountable for. the january 6th committee has been a carefully orchestrated production presenting significa

. >> his response was to say they can march from the capitol from the ellipse. >> something to the effect of take the f'ing mags away, they're not here to hurt me, let them in, let my people in, they can march from the ellipse. they can march to the capitol. >> that was a stunning detail that we learned. there's a lot that she talked about -- she saw and heard a lot of closed-door conversations. she testified publicly. how different do you think her testimony will be behind closed doors with the justice department and how serious is this? >> her testimony will probably track what she told the committee. they may delve in other things she saw who were in contact with trump that day. >> do you think the d.o.j. would be better questioners than lawmakers? >> i do. because i think they're thinking about this as a political case. good lawyers think about how do you lose the case. we've been hearing an open statement from one side of the case. we haven't heard anything about the other side. that's how the process is set up. good lawyers at the d.o.j. are going to be thinking, okay, how is it goi