joining me now, congressman emanuel cleaver, democrat from missouri, and jared bernstein. thanks for coming on the show tonight. >> good to be with you, reverend. >> congressman, do you believe what some republicans are trying to slow walk policy to prevent a stronger recovery? >> well, there's no question that the republicans, at least in the house and perhaps in the senate as well, contributed significantly to the legislative co constipation that we are experiencing here in the united states. if we had a balanced approach instead of the sequestration, we would probably have a higher number than 165,000 jobs that were created. but when you start cutting fire and police, as you mentioned earlier, those are human beings. those are americans. when they lose their jobs, it stimies our growth. and so we've got to continue to make progress. my fear, reverend, is that the sequestration is going to eventually hurt our chances of beginning to do what the president was taught to do and that's drop the unemployment numbers. later in the summer when the defense industry begins to lay

and i want to play with you what congressman emanuel cleaver had to say about that. >> we've got so much real issues to face that it is almost a thing that we are going to lose some time dealing with a non-issue. and i think that the opposition has created a madness. >> and it's not just the democrats who are complaining. republicans have to watch out. they're going beyond the established fact. that was bill o'reiley. charles talked about benghazi and said you have to stop comparing it to watergate and nixon. is there a danger to republicans in overreach here? >> i've cautioned my colleagues not to overreach. we don't want hyperbole. we want legitimate oversight, vigorous oversight. that's basically what led to all of this ultimately being revealed. but we're going to get the facts on the table. consider the fact that the irs is perhaps the most powerful entity within our government. it has the power to destroy. we cannot allow abuses and so all of this has to come to light. we're going to lay it all out in a clear timeline. and we want to know who is responsible and how far it goes. i t

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