so i have today emily cohen from the department of homelessness and supportive housing and thank you for being here this late. i appreciate it. >> good afternoon, supervisors, i'm emily cohen with department of homelessness and supportive housing. our director jeff kazisky sends his regrets not being here today. we thank you for your leadership on this issue. we share your concern that people who are homeless and going through residential treatment not be discharged to the streets. people in residential treatment are doing the transformational work of recovering and returning to homelessness challenges this ongoing recovery. h.s.h. and d.p.h. are continuously building our efforts to collaborate and better serve the highest need folks in our community, including people leaving residential treatment. we have work world the supervisors office on the amendments and as amended we are excited to support this legislation and just really grateful for the opportunity to work together with your office and also answer any questions you may have about how h.s.h. and d.p.h. will implement. >> tha

cohen. with us is michael avenatti and emily jane fox. michael avenatti what's your response to the lawyers seeking to have you barred from the courtroom in the michael cohen case? >> lawrence, good evening. of course, they want to bar me from the courtroom in the proceeding because we've made considerable inroads over the last eight weeks. we've disclosed some damaging, accurate information relating to michael cohen and his activities. and we're not going anywhere, lawrence. regardless of what happens by way of this motion before the honorable judge kimba woods, who you know and i know, and she's an exceptional judge. regardless of what happens,'re not going anywhere. i'm not going anywhere and my client is not going anywhere. we're going to see to it that the truth of what happened here is laid bare for the american people and the evidence is laid bare for the american people. michael cohen and his attorneys don't like us because we speak the truth, because we disclose accurate information about the illegal acts that have occurred over t

emily jane fox wrote the article on cohen. nior reporter and msnbc contributor. emily, thank you. it's the hardest question in the world. in the relationship between cohen the fixer and trump who doesn't want the secrets spilled out, what's their relationship back and forth? what does cohen want from the trump at this point? i don't know what he can get. what does he want? >> i think from my reporting, earlier in the week when the president had sent a stronger message on twitter and had made comments that michael was a great guy, that is the kind of message and the kind of support that are buoyed him especially as my reporting panned out, he's been spending upwards of ten hours a day with his lawyer going through the documents that the government seized and has since started to give back to him. the message that he received on thursday morning or -- it was not certainly not the message that he thought that the president was going to give him publicly. and it didn't help his legal case. he was due in court at noon that day. this

emily jane fox, thank you. we were done. that was fascinating, though, we'll have you back following the michael cohen angle and any reality stories that come to the white house. stop. >> what? >> just stop. >>> still ahead, insight into barack obama's thinking after the election of donald trump. even questioning if he ran before his time. we'll read from his long-time adviser's new book. "morning joe" is coming right back. it took guts to start my business.

emily, let me start with you. you have reported on michael cohen for quite sometime. i -- how -- what is he -- where is he right now? >> i presume he is home watching the coverage. this is the man who in the month since the raids has gone through initially surprise, has been disappointed by his former boss, someone he considered family and completely isolated and alone from the people in wash running -- in washington running the show. and donald trump made a good show of distancing himself from michael cohen's businesses a couple of weeks ago. and michael cohen was caught off gord. and last week rudy giuliani distanced himself from cohen and now the reports come out. i wonder, is there another opportunity where the president will have to distance himself and leaving michael cohen feeling further isolated and further alone and as one person close to cohen put it to me over the weekend, that is a very dangerous place for michael cohen to be in for donald trump. >> meaning in terms of what he would do vis-a-vis cooperating or what he would be inclined to do -- >> whateve

vanity fair, emily jane fox who knows cohen as well. would you agree? >> yes. >> cohen for his part is mostly distraught as donny said on the impact on his family. i live for my wife and kids, he tells friends. i die for my wife and kids and this is ruining their lives. cohen himself is grappling with the fact that in his early 50s his life and his business will never be the same, he is isolated from the people in washington around trump who have been treating him as though he is disposable. hearing that a lot these days. i'm sitting here in this nightmare he has told people. this does not sound like someone who has been treated in a manner that when he stares at the option of not seeing his wife and kids for a long time, leaving them in terrible financial duress, he's going to -- if he stands at a fork in the road and the possibility of going to jail -- >> those who are worried about their family members are people who -- >> let's talk about mike flynn. >> reportedly is cooperating, in part because -- this is reported -- the deal he got could have shie

cohen. the involvement of the russians, this kind of pattern. >> so we want to get to emily jane fox on the k about if you could the plethora of problems that this latest revelation poses for president? >> some of the scenarios are not looking good for the president. he has to file this disclosure. he's between a rock and a hard place. it will contravene what he said about not knowing about the payment but what it will come down to criminally is what he knew, when he knew it. what did he know about the payment structure of paying off stormy daniels and perhaps others. did he know about other illegalities, fictitious corporations, in home equity loans, russians providing money to give to stormy. so if he knew that, he's looking at being a co-conspirator with michael cohen in those underlying charges and if he learned of illegality after the fact, if he then pays off knowing something is wrong he's looking at accessory after the fact. this is almost a no-win situation for the president. >> it's willie geist. i want to ask you about a point that rudy giuliani and others around the president hav

as for michael cohen, senior reporter at "vanity fair" and an nbc news and msnbc contributor emily janehow michael cohen reacted to the president ee's "fox & friends" interview from thursday. according to people a familiar with the situation he had not initially been watching as trump gave his unscripted and unhinged phone interview to fox. cohen, according to three people familiar with his thinking was baffled about why trump made the remarks in the first place. he didn't see the benefit and wasn't sure what purpose it served, which frustrated him. especially as he'd been spending ten hours a day fighting these allegations. and emily joins us now. so he was a little surprised. >> so his own lawyer was wondering why donald trump was on tv making claimants that hurt both of their legal standing. >> he was due in court at noon that day and the interview ran at 8:00 and it completely changed his legal argument going into that day in court. he had been spending about ten hours a day with his lawyers going through the first production of the document to the government and so spending all of

i am sitting here in this nightmare, cohen has told people. seth, emilythis up. this jives with a lot of what we've heard from people around michael cohen is that he has gone to sort of a dark play, realizing that the president likely won't have his back when the rubber hits the road here. what does that mean for his potential willingness to work with the investigation? >> well, look, he has not been charged with anything yet. so i think there's a couple of steps in between what's happening now and what could happen down the road. i interviewed him at the end of the summer and he said to me, i would take a bullet for the president. and now what he's saying is i would die for my family. so i think that there is a shift in that. i have not heard anything about people asking him whether he'd take a bullet for the president now so i don't know if that answer has changed or not but look, he is completely alone here in new york. he has not been supported by the people in d.c. and by the president. as people close to him have said to me, that is a really dangero

, oh, more incoming for the president's embattled former fixer and vanity fair's emily jane fox reports on michael cohen's cohen according to two people familiar with his thinking has vacillated between fuming over avenatti's involvement in the matter and feeling browbeat enby the barrage of headlines. in the last week he's told he's being attacked and his family is being made to suffer all because investigators are trying to get to the president. quote, i'm not going to just rollover, he's told friends, spending hours each day with his attorneys in order to comb through documents the government has returned to them from their raids which we're not going to use any more thanks to you last month. what do you think? >> well, i reject the language, first of all. >> but the idea that this is where he is. he's pouring over the documents, he wants -- you know, i've heard anecdotally, he's prepared for the worst in terms of his own personal legal situation. >> he ought to be. when the fbi executes a warrants on your house, that's a bad day, not a good day. you ought to be prepared for the worst. on a human level

after that that columbus nova decided to pay $1 million into the michael cohen trump mistress slush fund. joining me now, emily jane fox. senior reporter at "vanity fair" and someone who is frequently in touch with michael cohen and adam davidson at "the new yorker" who has been reporting on trump world's financial ties for years. i am obsessed with that transition period. >> it's an amazing time. the fact that this all happened with c-span with its live camera of every person who is going in and so many people went in who should not be on camera going into that building. >> it feels like it was a bazaar. it was, come on in, we just won the presidency. come on in. let's talk. >> open for business. >> let's do some business. we got the guy who runs the qatari sovereign wealth fund, a russian banker, the russian ambassador, viktor vekselberg. >> if i can correct you, it is not that he's the client of columbus nova. i talked to several people who worked there. they refer to it as the vekselberg family office. to refer to a private hedge fund that's primary or so job is to invest the money of one person in their f

after that that columbus nova decided to pay $1 million into the michael cohen trump mistress slush fund. joining me now, in emily jane fox. senior reporter at "vanity fair" and someone who is frequently in touch with michael cohen and adam davidson at the new yorker who has been reporting on trump world's financial ties for years. >> i am obsessed with that transition period. >> it's an amazing time. the fact that this all happened with c-span with its live camera of every person who is going in and so many people went in who should not be on camera going into that building. >> it feels like it was a bazaar. it was come on in, we just won the presidency. come on in. let's talk. >> open for business. >> let's do some business. we got the guy who runs the qatari sovereign wealth fund, a russian bankerer, the russian ambassador, victor vesselburg. >> if i can correct you, it is not that he's the client of columbus nova. i talked to several people who worked there. they refer to it as the veksal berg family office. to refer to a private hedge fund that's primary or so job is to invest the money of one person in thei

emily, let's start on this question here. michael cohen, the at&t payments.ou see sarah huckabee sanders being asked about that today. i'm trying to follow the logic there where she says actually this sort of exxon rates them on this idea that they are draining the swamp. what did you make of her reply and what they are trying to communicate there? >> it's hard to make sense of it. i guess what she was trying to say is the fact that we are in a fight with the justice department -- or the justice department is in a fight with at&t is proof that we did not succumb to these special interests. i don't know that anyone in briefing room bought it. i don't know that anyone in the american public bought it either. there is still so much to find out about just how much the president knew about what michael cohen was doing f the president knew anything at all. i do not think that that statement helped clear anything up. >> i guess there is a question, too, policecally bill of definition. this has come up many times since he became president. drain the swamp. the lobbyi

but as emily just said, the thing about tapes and michael cohen having them, that's out there. and we know that on the basis of all of the reporting, some that she's done and some that others have done, we know that there are take place. and i think some of the stuff that's in those tapes is going to turn out to be pertinent to matters that relate to michael cohen's criminal case and potentially the president. >> i was also struck by the fact that one of the hall marks of the mueller investigation is that there haven't been any leaks. if this is true. if there's starting to be leaks in an investigation run out of the southern district of new york, that would differentiate from the mueller probe. >> we've learned very little of the mueller probe before he wanted it out there. i mean, the idea you said there about avenatti revealing the sources of cohen's money, that was something that mueller knew for months before it was released publicly in the last couple of weeks. this does seem a little why with the sdny. one would be wonder if mueller would be reluctant to refer things to

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cohen credit for being an entrepreneur in this situation. neil: well, yeah, i don't know -- >> that is one way to put it. neil: emilyeal quick, do you think this has lasting residual effect? the russian thing which might not be true at all, might be a different cohen, no way of judging, that i could see could. this other stuff domestically, sad as it is, i'm saying sad, i know how the business world works. it might not be a there there. it might shock people, the old casablanca thing, gambling? i'm shocked. i don't know it will have any effect. >> this is conventional. this will be disappointing coming in orbit after president who promised to drain the swamp and adamant about that. there is nothing really lasting. unless things turn out to be connected to russia and russian billionaire backing one of the companies that was alleged to have hired cohen, that is where things could be interesting. this is business as usual here in washington, d.c. neil: you're both too young to be so jaded. what is it? leave it to me to do the jaded thing. ladies, thank you both, very, very much. >>> if i had to make an offer to you, i

cohen. the difference between them is one of them really knows what he's doing and has a track record of proving it in very tough litigation. that's and notty. >> emily, you had giuliani also come out and beak say mueller better not come for ivanka. exhibiting loyalty to ivanka throwing jared undered the bus. >>> the comment about jared was the most revealing thing. his sick cofan tick comment about ivanka was typical for the trump world. saying that men are all disposable referring to jared kushner not only sent shock waves through the white house but it was a statement that someone who had been preparing with the president for days for this interview would say something like that can? it was reveal. il say in all of my reporting for the book one thing that has come up over and over again is if it to a point where the president may have to choose between himself and his son-in-law, there is no question that he will throw jared under the bus faster than you could say jared. >> wow. the plot athleticens. >> david cay johnson and emily fox, thank you both. why the president spent part of his speech to the nra today praising paul manafort and the judge

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particularly executive director emily morase and commission president debi mezlo, that put forward the recommendations to the board of supervisors. i also want to thank my co-sponsors, cohen, stefani and tang, early supporters of this legislation. the city is one of the largest employers here in san francisco and we have long been at the fore front of advancing employment protections, which is why it's so important that we continue to lead by example. it is our collective responsibility to prevent, recognize, report and root out harassment in the workplace. my increasing training and ensuring more transparency in reporting incidents of workplace harassment, we're making it clear, no city employee should ever be subjected to harassment or retaliation for speaking up. colleagues, i have today two in memoriams. my first in memoriam is for mrs. barbara brown lopez. the mother of an incredible community leader in the mission and in our city, ms. tracy brown. barbara passed away on sunday, born in guatemala, barbara considered guatemala and the united states her homes. she proudly acknowledged her cultural heritage and taught her students to do the same. she worked for the san

materials seized from the raid of cohen's offices and residences said they still need more time to piece together shredded documents from that raid. joining us at the table, emily for vanity fair and an msnbc contributor who was in the courtroom today and described it as intense. tell us what went down. >> so, it was supposed to be a procedural hearing about where michael cohen's lawyer stands, where the government stands, the special master stands. in some ways it was. the government has in some ways it was. we learned the government returned 3.7 documents or files to michael cohen's lawyers. they are a third of the way through. >> we learn of those only a couple hundred thousands of those were attorney shrine privilege. he was a full time fixer. >> he was a businessman, someone who was handling the president's problems and working with his personal clients on a number of different business endeavors. but we also got a glimpse of an avenatti show today. as much attention was on mr. avenatti in court as was on mr. cohen and the legal process that is underway here. and it wasn't a great day for michael cohen in court. his lawyers were arguing they need more time

cohen to learn more. >> shepard: nicholas johnson, busy times. thanks very much. >> thank you. >> shepard: now for a look at the legal side, let's turn to emily compano. good to see you. >> thanks, shep. >> shepard: this is not about an affair. if the intention about what rudy guliani says to keep negative information from a porn star from getting out into the open during a campaign so that it's not negatively affecting the campaign and you withhold that information, that could be a thing that could be fixed. if you do so intentionally, if you deceive intentionally, that can be a crime, right? >> yes. it triggers a whole host of campaign election laws. i've heard, if it's his own money, if it's the president's own money, candidates own money, there's no limits to that. that's true. the law specifically accounts for borrowing that money and paying it back. i think two issues of the level of the payment structure, it has to do with the intent. if trump paid it back immediately upon learning of the loan, that bodes towards an argument that it wasn't a campaign purpose. as guliani stated, he paid it monthly in the form of a reta retainer which triggers f