how can we get the limited live entertainment excluded from the know amplified or no live entertainment excluded on the transfers? >> that is going to mostly driven locally. most of the conditions you'll ever see on an abc license are because we rely, to a great extent, on the police department and local officials to determine what is best for their communities. i'm not trying to pin this on you guys or blame you guys, but we do try to work with you. we do not tend to want to overrule the police department very often. now that said, i get a fair number of petitions and appeals to me. typically, they are from the neighbors. i want to see that there is actually a practical problem posed -- that the condition is there to solve, not that this is the way the things have been or maybe there's someone who is satisfied by what is potentially wrought by having live entertainment. it is always a case by case. generally, very deferential -- i am very deferential to the removal of conditions that do not appear to be solving any problems, and by removing them we are narghile posing any problems that

[applause] for many years, the entertainment commission -- >> for many years, the entertainment commission, which has been under the auspices of the city was guided by ed lee. he is now the mayor san francisco. he was going to be here today, but was called away. but he sent paul anderson to deliver a message. [applause] >> not ed lee. but i play him from time to time. the mayor wanted me to appear today and he wanted me to welcome all of you to discuss these very important issues. obviously, with the amount of influence and impact that nightlife has on san francisco, that is obviously very important to the city, and to the mayor directly. it is so closely tied to what makes san francisco such a beautiful city, and so closely site -- tied to what makes san francisco -- what makes people want to come to san francisco and live in this city. it is important to what we do and many of the businesses that exist here on an ongoing basis. we have 16 million visitors a year. that is in no small part due to the activities associated with the night life and this city. that is not lost on all of us. on

music or no entertainment, and the new person that -- no live music or no entertainment, and the new person that purchases it, they want to modify the conditions. they realize if a petition to modify the conditions, they run the risk of maybe not having the license transfer to them should the modifications be declined. some of these laws on the books a little archaic, and i will give you an example. we now have live entertainment in san francisco, which allows amplified music until 10:00 p.m. if the conditions has no entertainment, and the entertainment, it also includes this limited live provision. we have determined in the city that this legislation is good -- good legislation. there's no conditional use requirement to have this. a lot of people today want to have food, drink, and be able to have some music. how can we get the limited live entertainment excluded from the know amplified or no live entertainment excluded on the transfers? >> that is going to mostly driven locally. most of the conditions you'll ever see on an abc license are because we rely, to a great extent, on the

. >> meeting is adjourned.the entertainment commission, i'm glendon hyde, first order of business, we have public comment -- sorry, roll call, sorry. (roll call). . >> commissioner lee? >> here? >> commissioner tan? >> here. >> commissioner joseph? >> commissioner perez. >> here. >> commissioner hyde? >> president [inaudible] is excused this evening, we do have a quorum. >> now we're moving on to public comment, this is the time when the members of the public can address the commission on item that is are not on our docket, if there is anyone that would like to approach the podium now. okay, seeing none, we are going to move to item number 2, which is the review and approve the minutes but we are going to continue this item at the request of staff. >> we need a motion. >> so, move to continue. >> second. >> commissioner lee? >> aye. >> commissioner tan? >> aye. >> commissioner joseph? >> aye. >> commissioner perez? >> aye. >> commissioner hyde? >> aye. >> alright, now we're going to move to the report from our check t*if director. >> thank you, good evening, commissioners, and thank y

entertainment? >> i believe when you get to voices and there is no entertainment component, it's more of a police issue. >> what i see is that unfortunately this is a common problem that we have when you have windows and open those and sound travels. if you have a party at your house and windows are open, people can hear and that is how they know where the parties are. i am familiar with this business and i know there are a lot of businesses on polk street that causes nuisances and i know this is not one of those businesses. there are businesses that cater to younger, full bar, noisier demographic. i would consider supporting this with conditions, with removal of the speaker and ask project sponsor to close the windows when you have live music. do you have air conditioning? to the extent possible? what is it? 8:00 for noise ordinance isn't there time? >> i believe it's 10:00 p.m. when the decibel level changes. >> i recognize that people go to bed earlier, but the windows would never be open past 10

>> as needed is in preference to entertainment, if tles ao no entertainment happening on a thursday night, if they're just serving dinner, they won't have security

. >> i was the founding president of the entertainment commission. i retired and went on to found the culture association, the first trade association statewide for night life, bar, and restaurant activities. i am here with a question that plagues a lot of these license holders, who desire to have their establishment opened for all age dance parties, or 18 and up, and are being handed a restriction in the conditioning process that requires them to sell 50% food and 50% alcohol, in direct contradiction to the underlying statute that defines a bonafide eating place and put an onerous requirement that cannot be met and makes those business owners immediate felons and creates a situation where our all ages cultural institutions are challenged when ownership changes and there is an opportunity for this new conditioning. for a long time i have been the advocates for either aids license type or the relaxing of the 5050 rule, because i do not think it would stand up in a court of law. i am asking you to direct your staff to look at that. the problem that it

we are also told the switching of the entertainment this year.we have dance areas where the slides used to be. i think that for us it is about making sure that people, even if they came to san francisco in particular five years ago, that they are not experiencing the fight -- the same thing. it speaks to one of the priorities. the never-ending city. or something. i do not remember, exactly, but it is the same basic concept. even if you come here several times over and over, you will not have the same experience. as we do that, enhancing certain things. live stages have big-name bands. headlining the folsom street fair, people are now looking forward to our entertainment in ways they did not 10 years ago. >> commander, how do we prepared to assist an outdoor event? what training do the folks on the street have when engaging with patrons of the event? >> i am sorry, i have never heard of little booth. not my genre, i guess. you know, all of our officers receive a lot of training at the academy level and the special operations group on crowd control

>> as needed is in preference to entertainment, if tles ao no entertainment happening on a thursday night, if they're just serving dinner, they won't have security present. >> got you, okay, thank you. >> can i ask a question about the floor plan, so it looks like what you provided here, it's not laid out as a restaurant, can you describe -- i don't see tables and chairs and that type of thing. >> tables and chairs aren't on the sketch of the floor plan. >> i guess how you -- it's going to be a flexible space because you want entertainment, how is that going to work. >> if you look at the floor plan, you'll see there's areas in both of those sides, there will be tables set up along the wall, there will be the higher bar type table along there through to the dance floor, and then there's also a mezzanine area and there's an area upstairs where they'll be more of a fixed price dinner will be fixed up there. >> so, the dance floor isn't where tables are going to be, it's just going to be a dance floor? >> yes. . er the sound system, is there a compressor on that thing? >> a limiter? >> yeah.

the alliance for better district 6 land use committee is neutral on the place of entertainment because we have concerns about their floor plan because they didn't provide us with the floor plan and their security plan is only a one-page which seems to be a deployment plan, it's not a detailed security plan. we wish lot 46 the best of luck and we look forward to working with them with did community -- the community late -- late e but at this point, we're neutral. thank you. >> thank you. >> hello, steve mathias from central station, we would like to recommend approval and our only requests are that they retain video for 30 day and is paren that to the police department upon request and then also similar to the last establishment that weapon went over, they have a hands-on approach, if there was a promoter or third party, they have a manager on site to look after the establishment because it is their license. as far as the extended hour, we're requesting the venue operate for 6 months with a good track record before going the 6 months. they have a fresh slate, it's just i think with our

in 2003 williams entertained and mingled with servicemen in the war zone.rter sean caleb was there. >> reporter: this is one guy who really had them at hello. >> good morning >> reporter: in robin williams quest for laughs he found a target. men and women who spend a lot of time in aircrafts. >> i love spiraling in. nothing like that to have your colon go, fire in the hole. >> reporter: troops were happy that williams played. >> the way he presented himself to everybody was real nice. come out real nice. all the sports here gave them a show. >> reporter: the king of improv did not miss a beat. >> thank you, i feel like i'm at a golf tournament. we'll be in the third hole in afghanistan. >> reporter: it was a good time to openly laugh, snap some pictures and for a few moments forget how much they missed their families. i remembered these are red blooded troops,. >> i'm for spraying your girl, don't go oprah on me. the man sprayed me. >> reporter: for those who have been getting by with four smiles creasing their faces this was welcomed relief. the smiles wer

i had talked to you guys about a tech and entertainment panel that i was excited about before the election and then i got a full stop with sf city, the organization that is like the tech sector chamber essentially put all their eggs in the prop b basket, so they were successful with that campaign and so i got back in contact with sf city and although we're in a holiday week, i do expect to get back in touch and hopefully we'll schedule that event for january because i think that it's really important. i think that it goes to all the issues we were talking about, so i'll keep you informed and when it takes shape, i'll get some feedback from you. i also wanted to mention lastly that at the very back of this pile of paper i gave you is a section of the police code, two weeks ago, what i did in trying to prepare for new year's eve and the holiday season is sent out an e-mail to everyone and their mother that i had in my mailbox letting people know that new year's eve is very busy, not only for us but it's busy for the police department, and that if anyone is planning to do anything out of the

also visits from the entertainment commission. so those calls into the pd have been answered. they basically are visits unannounced and everything was in good order. so we have good understanding and right move at the right time is to sustain this business as a wine retail/wine tasting bar and wine bar. and move forward. so i urge you for your support on this. we can't afford to lose another business. >> is there any additional public comment? okay. seeing none, the public comment portion is closed. commissioner borden? >> yes, to the zoning administrator, for noise ordinance, what are the requirements around noise and i know it's after a certain point in the evening. i have live near nightclubs, bars and all the rest and see this issue all the time, where most of san francisco businesss do not have air conditioning. it gets very warm and people open windows and obviously sound travels out, because even if you have people at your private home and your windows are open, your neighbors can hear that typically. what are the sound ordinance -- noise ordinance sort of rules around

-- i shouldn't say entertainment because it could be [speaker not understood]. an awful lot, that is going to be a real key purpose of the stadium. i know when the cac was put together there was no one from the entertainment industry on the cac which i thought was -- i know was a complete oversight, it wasn't intentional. i know you assured me that [speaker not understood] in the community would be involved in the planning process. i want to make sure we're continuing to really take into account the fact this is an entertainment venue. i think that community can have a huge contribution in making sure that it is successful both in terms of design, working with the surrounding neighborhood. i want to see if we can get a little update on that. >> thank you. supervisor wiener, we very much take seriously your questions and the need to integrate the entertainment and night life community into the design and programming and thoughts around this arena are critical to its success. the warriors have reached out to event promoters in the area in order to start talking to

but it does not allow for residential. * entertainment. so, under this option any existing residential uses that are there would become legal not conforming uses and any legal nonconforming nighttime entertainment uses or office uses on that block would become conforming. >> i appreciate your bringing that back to everybody's attention. i personally support and i hope the commission supports this option as one that was presented among 6 or 8 other all teshvthxv at this timexv. i thought the options were carefully enough explained to all of us. it is indeed a position we could take. the second point i am interested in is further explanation about your interpretation regarding the 350 11th street project which has been dormant in 2005 in response to what the architect described as a predicament, this particular client is in. would you please explain to us how you see it in response to what he said? >> so, unlike some other applications related to development, [speaker not understood] application related to the planning code, you are not auto

another issue was the 11th street entertainment corridor and how to deal with that issue. we also had discussion of a development pipeline and grandfathering of some type much. we discussed eastern neighborhoods and whether that would be a model or not. we can discuss that more and a program needed for western soma and if it's appropriate. also discussed the issues with the overlap area with the central corridor plan as was discussed. the issue of how much land use flexibility to provide to historical buildings and what level of historic buildings and finally a new issue the impacts on affordable housing requirements in the plan that came out of the proposition to create the housing trust fund in the city, so we will cover all those issues in detail, but to begin i wanted to introduce jim again, president of the western soma task force to give a few remarks. >> thank you very much. good afternoon president fong, commissioners. over the last seven years of the members of the western soma citizen planning task force have devoted thousands of hours of their own time to creati