shouldn't you defer to the agency that has the authority, the epa, and let the epa handle all that? on the other hand we heard the more conservative members of the bench, they, conservatives were pushing back and asking and pressuring them as to why the epa would essentially push further than congress in enacting regulations. >> so libby does this help or hurt the white house's efforts to limit greenhouse gases? >> we'll see, at this point it's too soon to tell really which way it might fall. it really has over narrow part of what epa does. this gets to whether president obama and his administration can go ahead and tighten regulations, his pen and phone to enact things. when congress in his perspective isn't doing enough so it may be a symbolic decision. but the epa will continue going on and enacting other regulations relate being to greenhouse -- relating to greenhouse gas. epa says that's the number one concern for americans' help. >> libby casey thank you very much. >>> the u.s. saying it is deeply disappointed with uganda's antigay law. first offenders could face 14 years in p

when you and i were at the epa, a lot of the activity around the environment was squarely with the epa and it still is. but these environmental challenges really cut across many agencies and the many things that the federal government does. so for example early on we saw this working at the epa when you were there. the department of housing and urban development together working with the community of sustainability within the community. how do you think about transportation in a more sustainable way and these agencies came together, the secretaries came together and said let's institutionalize a way of touche rising youth are part of that. we are going to travel around the country and people are so excited about it. and really what they are excited about is they had all the agencies at the table with their communities with the support of these agencies and it is a tremendous success in something that will continue. but i think that it highlights the nature of environmental challenges that take care of this across the board. >> one of the things we were able to do together when i was at

the epa regulates emergency planning. it requires facilities to inform their local emergency planning all hazardous materials in their possession. i should add the newly defies -- requireosha standards communication. in west virginia, state regulations required secondary containment for above ground storage they can protect groundwater for least 72 hours. we understand that state and federal agencies are all investigating the freedom industries accident. there's no question that these will be extensive investigations. we expect resulting incident reports will cite factors contributing to the release of -- and violations of regulations. we are interested in these findings. we are adjusted how the chemical estate -- escaped containment. circumstances exist where a situation like this could occur. oversight that the should begin with understanding of the circumstances. we contend that a federal legislative response at this moment would be premature. once final investigation reports are released, specific reasons for these fa

this is a big undertaking and kicked off by something that epa did early on in this administration to make this an danger went under the clean air act that carbon pollution and dangerous to common welfare of the united states, so this sets in motion the activities they have to undertake into the powerpoint standards, starting out with the standards for new power plants to make sure that fossil fire power plants are as clean as they can be and then they are working very hard on laying out a schedule headed the epa is working hard on a modest outreach for something they have to work closely with the states on so they are making great progress and i have every confidence they will meet the deadlines antheirdeadlines and f the standard that the liver. >> you have a state experience. maybe you can help people understand what happens once they set the standards of this kicks back to the state. and i know it is a part of the public outreach so maybe talk a little bit about what you are hearing from the business and environmentalists. >> what happens is that epa sets up a source performance s

but the epa says that drinking water is not affected by the tce.enny siegel would like to see more testing in neighborhoods located farther away just to make sure that the tce hasn't moved there and that there aren't more hot spots. meantime, residents like the garcias are left with a lot of questions but so far few concrete answers. we will stay on this story. >> we know you will. thank you, steven. good analysis. if you have a tip for our investigative unit give us a call or send us and e-mail directly. >>> new tonight at 11:00, risky business. it has been a deadly year in downtown san jose with two killings this month. that violence has some people on edge but is it not keeping new businesses from setting up shop downtown. what are the owners saying? >> farmers union, nick the greek and others are concerned about the safety of this area. nick the greek will open in a couple days and there are concerns about safety in this area. in the six months since this cafe has opened, business has been fantastic. but three recent stabbings in the downtown a

what is the epa's position on this?r agency going to do in the next 90 days to have input into this process? >> well, chris, as you know, the final environmental impact statement has gone out. epa and other agencies are going to be commenting on that. i think people are aware that epa has been free to comment as it should on the science and the analysis. we'll continue to do that. and i'm confident that the right decisions will be made and epa will be able to impact those with our comments moving forward. >> the white house has been a big booster of natural gas. >> yes. >> the president has talked about it in variety of speeches. he talked about it in his big climate speech, talked about it in the state of the yun yunion. there's a new study out and looks at the greenhouse gas effect of fracking, particularly. there's the carbon part of it. there's also methane. methane is a much more powerful greenhouse gas than even carbon. this study, researchers estimate the country's methane emissions are probably about 50% higher

epa has broad authority to issue regulations addressing climate change.n served as president george w. bush's first epa chief, a two-term governor of new jersey, the only female governor in the state's history and this is her first tv interview since monday. hello and honor to have you here. >> thank you, good to be with you. >> why don't we start with the case? we had oral arguments monday. we have something that is often looked at at a deeper technical level because they get into some administrative law, but you wrote and argued here this week that at the broad level, this is about a clearly established power to deal with climate change and pollution. >> if you look at the history of previous court decisions, whether it was a massachusetts's decision or second circuit in d.c., both said epa has broad responsibility to regulate pollutants and greenhouse gases, obviously, fall under that. and it's always been -- the basic premise here is, it has to be a federal agency, because mother nature doesn't observe geopolitical boundaries and the methane produced

epa is taking concern with utah. in part of a statement to us they said "this is a serious and complex problem,: >> i took a look at the letter addressed to you, a 64-paged letter from the epa. what are some of those concerns that they are itemising. >> this is in response to an 1800 page plan we provided to them. the comments will be addressed. mostly they are technical. when it comes to strategies, it is an agreement. they helped us develop those. we expected comments back, we'd be addressing those as part of divisions to the plan. it's part of our interas with the environmental protection agency. >> is utah dragging its feet? >> i think so. a few days a year versus beijing's hundreds of days a year, it's kind of - it's not a correct thing. i don't believe it's a correct statement to say that the rest of the air is great. it's not. our high levels of ozone as a mountain biker, it's a problem. while they may not be hacking up, the contents of a cold weather inversion. there are cluster migraines that others experien

so i took a look at that letter, it was addressed to you, it is a 64 page letter from the epa and what are some of the concerns? >> this is in response to an 1800 page plan we provided to them. they are technical coming to strategies that have implemented. they are in agreement with those and helped us to drop those. again, we expected some comments back, we are addressing those as revisions to the plan and part of a normal plan with the interaction with the epa. >> amanda, is utah dragging its feet on addressing the issue? >> i think so. going back to a few days a year versus hundreds of days a year, it is actually not actually a correct statement, i don't believe it is a correct statement to say the rest of the year that the air is great. it is not. the high levels of o sooen in the summer -- ozone. it is a problem. while i may not be hacking up the contents of the cold weather inversion, i'm suffering, i have cluster migraines that we are experiencing in the valley because of the high levels of ozone. it is not fair to place blame on any one industry and a lot of people are looking

the epa says drinking walter in this area is not affected by this, this ce. lenny seagol would like to make sure that tce not located in other hot spots where the epa has not looked so far. in the meantime, residents like the garcias are left with lots of questions but very few concrete answers. we'll stay on this story. raj, jessica? >> steven, thank you. if you have a tip for steven stock or anyone else in the investigative unit. give us a call. 8 8-996-tips or send an e-mail to the unit. >>> happening now in oakland, a big turnout as the city counsel considers whether to continue with a controversial project known as the dow main awareness center. it's a data hub that would consolidate feeds. the goal is to better protect the port of oakland. the federal government is offering a million dollar grant for the project but revelations about nsa surveillance raised privacy concerns. many in the city object to the potential contractor which has ties to federal nuclear weapons project. a violation of the city's new clear free ordinance. >>> still ahead here at 6:

west virginia and other states as well as the epa have issued guidance gowments on the subject. they provide common sense information and advice that could have prevented the tragedy in west virginia. for example, if we simply look at west virginia's guy dense documents regarding a aboveground storage tank they suggest and refer to existing regulatory standards which if obeyed, regarding groundwater protection would have prevented the spills in to the surface water through effective secondary containment according to their specify cases. like many trajt i dids, this failure cannot necessarily be claimed on the absence of a law. we need to be cautious as we work to the situation and work through the issues. not every problem requires federal legislation. but every problem, especially serious ones deserve the careful consideration the empowered intervention, the educate assistance of responsible and politically accountable community members. people the closest people to the problem. and i applaud the communities' efforts here. i applaud the efforts of west virginia and cooperating

epa's process is to make is more productive overtime. and this is the next part of that process, and again, we're very confident that the strategies that we have in place, while costly, will be effective, but it's not the end. we need to focus on getting all of the sectors to reduce their emissions, and growth will be a huge factor for us, and we're determined to find how that's going to be in the future. >> bryce, if you had one thing to focus on, in terms of being a major polluter in the next five years, what would you put your finger on? >> it's so hard to get people out of that single occupant vehicle, whether it's transportation, or working, or education and avoiding it during those days. >> the community is tuning in. less: amanda, i don't want to end this on a despondent note. what can regular citizens do to make proactive solutions here to make sure that the air is breathable and better in 2019? >> there's so much we can do, and that's a big part of our campaign. personal responsibility. whether it's from calling your legislators

the last time there was a challenge to epa regulatory power, he sided with the agency. today, he said i read all your briefi briefing. i don't see a case that supports what you're asking me. it does seem to suggest he's got some doubts. >> we'll follow it. shannon bream outside the u.s. supreme court tonight. thank you. >>> three day care centers in west virginia. four hospitals in georgia. the shutdowns of those facilities are just some of the largely unpublicized consequences of obamacare. tonight, another that could affect millions of american families at some point. here's chief national correspondent jim ingle. >> hhs secretary kathleen sebelius may have her own moment similar to president obama's promise that everyone could keep their plan and their doctor no matter what, after making this statement. >> there is absolutely no evidence and every economist will tell you, there is any job loss related to the affordable care act. >> nevertheless, secretary sebelius using discretion granted by the affordable care act, cut the maximum allowed by law from home health car

frankly the epa is doing a lot of good things to rye to put that in -- lou: created by richarnixon. >the original father was congressman who since passed from california named george brent. this is serious stuff. the overreach by government is one thing. trying to toss out watch of what epa has done in rule making protective citizenry of this country would be a great mistake. lou: is it a great mistake though, to give so much power t what is, we have seen in various presidencies, abuse of exetive acon, executive orders. we also look to section 2, the take-care clause, that is, to faithfully execute the laws of the united states. presidenis as youing, they're signing orders or executive actions, executive orders. this is, this isough stuff for an american president, katie. i don't care whether he is a republicanr she is a democrat, down well for most americans. >> the problem too with president obama and even president bausch sometimes setting precedent for executive overreach, if you don't take a step back and put a halt to it as the supreme crt will probably do on monday when they're

epa has the pen on this one.they need to move forward. >> do you see, i mean, in the next two years on climate but if you can game it out. do you think we'll come back to a climate debate in the next five or ten years. it borkt cap-and-trade or carbon tax or some other mained to control carbon or remove it away from the legislative approach we're headed had in to -- >> congress has to come back to climate. it's a grave concern for the country and the planet. it's something that is being taken up international an international negotiations on it. so i don't think it's going to be in the near term. but i think four to six years it has to be addressed. i think what will happen is we'll put in standards on power plants. we will unleash clean energy. there are 186,000 jobs created on clean energy in the last two years. by the time congress gets around to it. it's actually going to be happening in states all across the country and it'll be an easier thing to do. >> they are fighting the epa climate rule pretty hard. wh

insistedally, the epa that the manufacturer release me from the confidentiality contract.e publish our findings in pretty high ranking journals such as the national academy of sciences, nature, environmental health perspectives. >> when did you get a sense that the company was organizing a campaign against you, what were the signs that you saw once you publish your findings? before the epa became involved and we published our findings, the company tried to register data and give me a new contract so they would control the data and experiments. they tried to get me to visit the company to get control of the data. when i refused, i invited them to the university to share data, but they wanted to purchase the data. as mentioned in the article, they hired scientists to review or pick apart the data. eventually they hired scientists to do experiments to claim that it refuted our data, and that escalated to the company, and two presentations, lectures that make handoutsto or to stand up and refute the data, and eventually led to threats of violence. talk, oneould give a man woul

frankly the epa is doing a lot of good things to rye to put that in -- lou: created by richard nixon.that's correct. and the original father was congressman who since passed from california named george brent. this is serious stuff. the overreach by government is one thing. trying to toss out watch of what epa has done in rule making protective citizenry of this country would be a great mistake. lou: is it a great mistake though, to give so much power to what is, we have seen in various presidencies, abuse of executive action, executive orders. we also look to section 2, the take-care clause, that is, to faithfully execute the laws of the united states. president is as youing, they're signing orders or executive actions, executive orders. this is, this is tough stuff for an american president, katie. i don't care whether he is a republican or she is a democrat, down well for most americans. >> the problem too with president obama and even president bausch sometimes setting precedent for executive overreach, if you don't take a step back and put a halt to it as the supreme court will p

officials, senior epa officials, and some interest groups.that is a fact. while yet to date, the most transparent process in the history of pipeline approval, yes, this is perhaps the most thorough assessment, absolutely the most thorough assessment. time and time again, the findings are the same. again, if we are going to move forward and look at where we are, this has job potential economic, energy security from canada and the u.s.. that is where we should be focusing the conversation. >> erich pica, what about that? consulting firm that has experience with an oil pipeline to do this assessment for the state department? >> you need to get the right people to assess the pipeline. the problem is, erm light on the concert -- conflict of interest statements. this is not about their ability to assess, but whether or not they are truthful. this has spurred another inspector general report, which we are expecting, hopefully, quite soon. they lied about this. we did a quick search and the numerous conflicts -- the western energy alliance, the ameri

overallig a part of the epa climate change efforts are these requirements? >> it is relatively small. it is not nearly as important as the nationwide standards for power plants that the epa has performed -- propose. thenhave potentially told you have gone too far. that would have a lot of symbolic significance. these are in place now. the supreme court would be rolling this back. was a clear indication from the justices which way they might roll? likes not real clear except that they did not seem to want to issue a big ruling. they were exploring the possibility of something narrow. into thenot call question in 2007 when they said the epa does have general authority regulate greenhouse gases. you might have a narrow victory for the industry. you might have a narrow victory for the epa. >> what are the economics of this? industries are saying that there is a real potential that millions of sources might be limited. we're talking about tens of billions of costs. they are not just attacking this narrow provision but other provisions as well. there is a huge amo

when the change makes it not work entirely as congress foretold. >> the epa chose to try timely meant the broad protective goals of the statute by bending a little bit on the implementation side. i think tt's a choice that agencies have to be able to make. >> scores ever businesses, states, led by texas and several gop lawmars are characterizing what happened as an unprecedented power grab and calling on the justices to restore what they argue is the rightful balan between the branches. >> from a constitutional perspective this is a wholly troubling practice that needs to be rectified by the high court. >> as is so often the case here at the court the swing vote could be justice anthony kennedy the last time there was a major challenge to epa regulatory here at the court he sided with the agency. but today at the federal government came to the close of its arguments, he said i read all your briefin and i see no case anywhere that strongly supports asking knee what to do to back what the epa isone. esn't tetell us for sure how he will vote but seems to suggest he has doubt this is time

in fact, local reporters had to correct the guy from the epa on that point.something he'd know since he's the epa's man in charge of water for that specific region and we're in month into the disaster already. he didn't know. just assumed the testing was happening. now the governor says the state will start conducting testing in some homes but his office has not spelled out which homes or how that spot testing might work. you get the feeling reading the papers in west virginia, watching people trying to live through this, trying to make reasonable decisions for themselves and their families, you get the feeling that our fellow americans in west virginia would mostly just like for this mess to go ahead and stop. when you can't get solid information about whether the water is safe, and the information you're getting doesn't make sense, and nobody knows where the contamination is coming from now, or why schools are showing up clear for the chemical one day, and then positive for the chemical the next day. it's worth being mad and frustrated f ed about the spill

we are one of 10 communities selected as an epa showcase community project in 2010. >> the epa invested00,000 in a partnership with the community. >> we are disproportionate abombarded by the toxic waste. and insirnerrate facilities. we were being disproportionately dumped on and attacked by the toxic pills. >> kelly joined forces with an environment enny deemiologist to study the expects on resist dents. there was a higher level of asthma, it's difficult to prove it's related to the environment. concern. >> it is possible that every in the complex can be in compliance with the emissions. if you live in the midst of that it may not be safe. >> oil was discovered in texas arthur. >> the petrochemical industry is what built texas, which is why it's the powerhouse economically that it is. it is rooted in this industry in this reege on. -- region >> by 1923, port arthur was bus lipping. the people that made their money no longer live there. >> what is different is the old money here at the time in the "20s, proctor street was movie theatres and department bores and exepsive hotels. now, bec

issues are whether the agency had the write to literally rewrite a federal statute to meet the epa's regulatory aim without ever going to congress. >> executive branch does not have the right to legislate, does not have the right to amend legislation. their job is to enforce. they have exceeded that enforcement authority in this case. >> epa officials argue compliance with the law as written would have led to quote absurd results leaving it no choice to essentially engage in legislation functions, an argument that didn't seem to sit well to justice antonin scalia who asked quote, are you compelled where there is ambiguity to work with the statute that does not be aproduce absurdity and adopt the legislation that produces absurdity and alter the decisions of statutes? supreme court precedent weighs heavily referring to federal agencies when statutory language is ambiguous. justice kagan why this dispute is not classic case to deference to the agency. the agency gets to choose how to make the thing work as best it can? when the change makes it not work entirely as congress foretold. >>

but they gave the epa sufficient latitude that the courts now say you can regulate epa. can regulate greenhouse gases. >> obviously, the critics would say this is something so sweeping, it would be best left to congress. why is that not happening? is it just that congress is so embarrassingly paralyzed that the president has decided, well, to hell with them, i'm just going to do it? >> i think that's part of it. and it's not just that it's paralyzed. it's actually opposed to the president in lots of areas. certainly, the house of representatives, which is now under republican control, is simply just against a lot of the things that president obama is for. so it's not just paralysis. it's active opposition. now, it's also true that congress passes a lot fewer laws than it used to, because there is a significant element of paralysis in both parts of congress. but, you know, i think we shouldn't criticize congress entirely when they just have a substantive disagreement with the president. that's -- that's why we have elections. >> and i can't stand it and i get it this is t

there was no epa. it was henry ford and automobiles.his -- got to encourage entrepreneurship in the pro-energy sectors. >> some would say they have other manure problem inside the beltway now. won't sgee that. the fact is, real jobs are not only heating bills at home, but real jobs and folks who work for coal companies. >> right. coal makes up about 40% of the electricity generated in the united states, and this is another example of a regulation that the president is pushing with little considation for the consequences of it. the fact, this would have massive impacts not just on our personal heating bls but on ctories, transportation, hospitals. all sorts of industries that depend on affordable energy. once again, the administration is pushing out the, picki winners and losers in the energy issue with no consideration for how it will impact americans. >> in terms of the point about new plants, you know when they stop new plants they're going to go after the old and shut them down as well. >> all right. we all have solar energy and wind

with the epa rules it is critical to get going on climate change. that will not be in congress domain at least affirmative action reducing carbon emissions but epa has the pen inveigled to move forward a. >> do you think we will come back to a climate debate that it will work its way back to noone cap-n-trade to control carbon with that legislative approach? >> congress absolutely has to come back and some state that has been taken up with international negotiations. it will not be in the near term but over four or six years have passed to be addressed and we will put it in the standards and unleash clean energy across the country right now with 186,000 jobs on clean energy by the time congress gets around to it said it will happen with states all across the country and an easier thing to do. >> national association of manufacturers is fighting those climate rules pretty hard. will congress have to weigh in? >> i firmly believe this is our policy. it is not particularly good but the farther down we get think about all i argue it is the good or a coo

we are talking about the epa's super fund site. epa tests show that the contamination has now spread beyond the boundaries of the site. there's concern that the city's underground drains and sewage lines have transported toxic chemicals called tce to travel from the super fund site to other parts of the city. scientists are finding new hot spots that seem to follow the city's underground utilities. >> it's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt, but it's the best explanation of the data. it's the best explanation we have right now is that these horizontal conduits, storm drains or sewer lines, are the source. >> tonight after the olympics, the investigative unit digs deeper into the issue. for the first time, the unit pieces together maps and scientific data to try to figure out where this tce might be coming from and their team talks to to the epa about its efforts to clean up the mess. >> more people have walked on the moon than hosted "the tonight show." tonight, jimmy fallon becomes just the sixth person to host "the tonight show"

the epa estimates that plastic marine debris effects 267 species globally, including 86% of sea turtles, 44% of sea birds, 43% of marine mammals. additionally, according to noah, plastic did he breaux come blats plastic chemicals such as pcbs, [speaker not understood] which have been shown to adhere to plastic particles at 100,000 to 1 million times the level in that of sea water drawctionv. ~. while we're not sure what percentage of plastic pollution is from bottled water, what we do know is waste prevention, that is not buying something in the first place, especially ones for which we have a safe, tasty and alternative for is the best way to reduce impact on the environment. but it's not just the downstream effects. it's a plastic packaging that's a concern. it is also the upstream effects. every part of the process from extraction to transportation to manufacture uses natural resources. in fact, according to the pacific institute, it's 2000 times more energy intensive than tap. and it takes three liters of water to make one liter of bottled water. another good reason to support this

the epa's intervention have made a difference here. agency officials told "america tonight," preliminary data from last year indicated air quality in the city now meets their standards. the industry groups said, including building a new health center for area residents. >> i'm hopeful through this new sort of communication between the grass roots organization and industry and local government, this new communication link that had been forged between us i'm hopeful that that can be used to where we can somehow sit down and agree to a plan to help better protect this community. >> port arthur has a long way to go. kelly says stronger measures need to be taken in a community in the shadow of one of the world's largest refinery complexes. but he's staying put. >> well, i say to a person who would tell me to move, when do we stop moving? when do we stop and turn and fight? these industries are cropping up all over the country. all over the world. so what we're saying to the industry is this: do your job. but do it responsibly. >> following

. >> we're talking about the epa's npw site around moffett field. they show the contamination has spread beyond the boundaries of that super fun site and now there's a concern that the city's underground storm drains and sewage lines have transported these toxic chemicals called tce, from the site to other parts of the city. scientists are finding new hot spots of tce that now we discovered seem to be following the city's underground utility lines. >> it's not proof beyond a reasonable doubt but it's the best explanation of the data. and the best explanation we have right now is these horizontal conduits, storm drains or sewer lines, are the source. >> reporter: now tonight after the olympics, the investigative unit digs deeper. for the first time the unit pieces together some maps and scientific data to try to find out exactly where this tce might be coming from. we'll lay it and show it to you tonight. our team talks to the epa about its efforts to clean up this mess. that's all coming up after the olympics. >> that's a critical story for many peo

in 2011, he introduced a bill in the senate that would prevent the epa from revoking clean water actat same year he also co-sponsored an amendment that would suspend the epa's regulation of greenhouse gases. this past summer senator manchin was the only senate democrat to vote against the confirmation of president obama's choice to be the new head of the epa. then came january 9th of this year, four weeks ago. a chemical spill paralyzed governor manchin's state. a chemical used in the processing of coal. the banks of the elk river in charleston, west virginia, at the public water intake for charleston's drinking water supply. that chemical it turns out was stored poorly in tanks maintained poorly been and unregulated storage chemical industry. when that chemical spilled into the elk river, it was an unprecedented disaster in modern times. one in six people in the state of west virginia had no drinking water for days. frankly, you can forgive people for thinking the safety of their drinking water may still be uncertain given upward revisions in the amount of chemical that was spilled

it appears that public pressure and our own pressure on the governor and the epa has come out with aood result here, today, john. >> robert ray in charleston, thank you. as we mentioned at the top of the hour, competition at the 2014 winter olympics begins in just a few hours, yet some are not ready. visitors to sochi have been posting pictures of partially constructed buildings. more than 24,000 rooms have been in sochi, more than the number of hotel rooms in moscow. gion gomeshi is in sochi, spoke to us from the game's media center and agreed that the hotel media accommodations leave a lot to be desired. >> on the one hand there are beautiful buildings that are glittery and brand spanking new but on the other hand there is an emptiness of a manufactured town built around the olympics that has little more, little legacy, little to do with sports in the past and kind of just been plopped down here. and feels particularly unfinished for all that we've heard about the $52 billion, some are speculating $60 billion that has been spent. it is not actually done. there are some hotels, venu

i think epa does some good things. i think they have overreached in other areas. talking about water supplies. obviously you want clean water that will be used for the water supply of a city. to say the epa has control over every ditch, and that's what some of these regulations are doing, a ditch on the side of a road and it's just overreach. you've got to have common sense in regulations. i think we ought to be able to drill on public lands because drilling is safe and it gives us energy that is efficient, it is low cost, and it gives us our competitive advantage for our manufacturing companies to move back to the united states. but if you don't use the vast resources that we have, like every other country in the world wants to be able to do and many don't have the rich natural resources that with he do, we have the cleanest, best technology to be able to bring oil into our country or to put the excel keystone pipeline down so we can get our oil to the refineries and the markets. if we stop those things, as is being done right now, we're not going to have the man

and epa currently publishedes 90 contaminants as far as regulations on how to deal with. chemicals are one aspect of contaminants. there can be other sources, but 90 is a small number compared to the total risk factors that could enter the water system. and as has been pointed out, if you ask for too much information none of the information will be terribly useful. we have before us a specific bill, the bill authored by senator manchin, rockefeller and boxer, i would like to get your specific use what that bill represents the right priority as you see it for federal action or whether there are other areas you would like to see us look at. >> start with secretary huffman. >> as with most successful environmental laws, rules and policies in this country establishing minimum federal standards for which the states must meet is vitally important. we don't want too much disparity across the country in how anything is regulated or we simply see various industries moving around the country to find areas that may be least regulated. the thing about the manchin boxer bill, it does

second epa regulations stemming from the emergency planning and community right to know act or title iii requires the facility to inform their merchants a planning committee the state emergency response committee and local fire department of all hazardous materials in their possession. i should add the newly revised 2012 osha hazard communication standard requires documentation and vindication of all hazardous properties of all chemicals. in west virginia state relations require secondary containment for aboveground chemical and petroleum tanks that can protect the groundwater furley 72 hours. we understand that state and federal agencies in the chemical safety board are investigating the freedom industries access given the impact there's no question that these will be extensive investigations. and we expect resulting incident reports will cite factors contributing to the release of applicable regulatory programs and the possible violations of those regulations. i lta is interested in these findings in particular how the chemical escapes the containment even with an expansive regulat