kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. let me hear you. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. now this side. kavanaugh, no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. >> to the left. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way, we want equal pay. give it up, give it up. yeah, y'all who is ready? raise your hand if you don't want kavanaugh. i don't see all these hands are raised. maybe you don't want to stop him. by the end of the event you'll want to stop him. we've got another one. i know many of you saw the report that came out yesterday, we've got law breakers in this city. this goes out for all of the members of this country who are doing the wrong thing. okay, this is for protect the law, block kavanaugh. protect the law, block kavanaugh. protect the law, block kavanaugh. protect the law, block kavanaugh. protect the law, block kavanaugh. >> hey,

but the equal rights amendment will positively make women subject to the draft and on an equal basisith men. nor could you have a system whereby the women would get all the nice, easy desk jobs and the men get all the fighting jobs. it would have to be equal across the board -- in combat, on warships, and all up and down the line. >> the argument against the equal rights amendment was about the draft, which, by the way, we don't have anymore. >> right. >> oh, and by the way, we have women in combat. >> right. willingly. >> willingly. women want to be in combat and are. i mean, that wasn't, to be fair, the only argument against the equal rights amendment, but that was one of them, and the equal rights amendment has come back. it passed in 2017 in nevada, and then it passed just last month in may in illinois. so, now the equal rights amendment is one state away from the 38 needed to ratify it. would you support a u.s. constitutional amendment that clarified that men and women have equal rights under the law? >> i think that's the easiest question you've asked me, margaret. yes. i mean,

>> equality between state and periphery, like, the center of the -- >> equality between center and periphery in state equality, something we take for granted, but during the era of the civil war and reconstruction, this process remained ongoing. in fact, from the end of the mexican war through the end of reconstruction, ten new states entered the union. most of them in the west. and they continue this process through which the united states claims and sustains a system where equality has several meanings. first of all, there are supposed to be spatial equality between states. second, there is supposed to be individual equality among citizens. your beloved 13th, 14th, and 15th amendments. the 13th amendment, what did the 13th amendment do? abolished slavery. excellent. what did the 14th amendment do? >> guaranteed citizenship to everyone born here. >> no. >> it was voting? no, it was the other way around. i don't remember. >> that's all right. what's your answer? where are you putting your money down on this? it's okay. >> citizenship. >> is he right? this is your lucky day. you're right. wha

we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. one more time. now this side. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. now this side. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. over here now. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. everybody. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. over here now. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. give it up. give it up. give it up. who is ready? raise your hand if you want to stop kavanaugh. raise it really high. raise it to the sky. i do not see all the hands raised. maybe you do not want to stop him. but by the end of the event, you will want to stop them. we have another one. many people probably saw some of the news that came out yesterday. we have some lawbreakers in the city. we have some lawbreakers. this one goes out for all of the members of this country who are doing the wrong thing. this one is protect the law. block kavanaugh. protect the law. block kavanaugh. protect the law. block kavanaugh. protect the law. block kavanaugh. protect the law. block kavanaugh. pr

it's a dangerous word, equality, this word equality.unity, but equality of outcome situations are detestable and dangerous beyond belief. so to you, whether it be gay rights campaigners, civil rights campaigners, or indeed women's rights campaigners, if they want to see equality deliverable in outcomes, they are damaging society, are they? depends on how far they go with it and how they measure it. i mean, these are very difficult technical issues. that if your a priori axiomatic assumption is if there are differences in outcome, those are a consequence of patriarchal oppression, then it's a nonstarter as far as i'm concerned because there are multiple reasons for unequal outcomes. do you think it was helpful for you to base a lot of your science about the difference between genders on lobsters? i haven't based any of my science on the difference between men and men and women and lobsters. you talk about how lobsters and humans behave the same, and in that context... the only thing that i've said... "..girls aren't attracted to boys who

they are equal in terms of their patriotism, and they are equal in terms of their mental capacity. this is in the selection you read. why did it appear that women were intellectually inferior to men? anybody? >> lack of educational opportunities. >> yes. lack of educational opportunities. she insisted, if women received the same kind of education as men, they would be capable of the same kinds of achievements as men. she did not explicitly advocate the right to vote or hold public but she was arguing for a kind of economic equality, economic possibility for women. from her own situation, she knew if women only new embroidery or knew how to dance, they would have no chance of supporting themselves. they were totally dependent on men. she wanted women to be able to support themselves, just as she was having to support herself, and the only way to do that was through education. you can see some themes coming together. with republican motherhood, you can see the need for wives and mothers to be educated, but you also see how there is an economic argument for women to be educated so the

equality has several meanings. there is a -- spatial equality between states and there is supposed to be individual equality between citizens. the 13th 14th and 15th amendment. the 13th amendment. what does it do? abolish slavery. the 14th? >> citizenship to everyone? >> no. >> what is your answer? >> citizenship.>> is he right? >> this is your lucky day. >> african americans can vote.>> excellent.>> in some ways these were reconstruction amendments. the 13th amendment is the elimination of slavery. the 14th and 15th amendments emerged from the way americans had come to understand and practice freedom and citizenship the decades before the civil war. let's put the 14th and 15th amendment alongside your reference to jacksonian democracy and universal male suffrage. one of the assumptions about citizenship was that citizenship and suffrage should be connected. in the 1780s and 1790s that was not the case. what did citizenship mean then that they don't of the republic? think back to when you read the constitution.>> y

we want equal pay. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. one more time. now this side. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. now this side. kavanaugh no way. we want equal pay. everybody. give it up. give it up. who is ready? raise your hand if you want to stop kavanaugh. raise your hand really high. i do not see all the hands raised. by the end of the event, you will want to stop them. we have another one. many people probably saw some of the news that came out yesterday. we have some lawbreakers in the city. we have some lawbreakers. this one goes out for all of the members of this country who are doing the wrong thing. this one is protect the law. block kavanaugh. protect the law. block kavanaugh. protect the law. block kavanaugh. hey hey. hey hey, ho ho, kavanaugh has got to go. hey hey, ho ho, kavanaugh has got to go. louder. hey hey, ho ho, kavanaugh has got to go. sing it louder. come on, y'all. what? give it up. this is so much fun. i hope you all are ready. this is a program. you need to be loud. if i do not hear screaming, i am going to assume you all do not kn

i approve of equality of opportunity but equality of outcome is detestable and dangerous beyond belief campaigners, if they wa nt to women's rights campaigners, if they want to see equality deliverable in outcomes, they are damaging society, they? depends on how far they go with it and how they measure it. these are very difficult technical issues but if your priority and your assumption is that if there are differences in outcome, those are the consequence of patriarchal oppression then it's a nonstarter because there are multiple reasons for unequal outcomes. was it helpful for unequal outcomes. was it helpful for you to be lot of your signs about the difference between genders on lobsters? i haven't based any of my signs on the difference between men and men and women and lobsters. you talk about how lobsters and humans behave the same, in that context girls aren't attracted to boys who are their friends, they are attracted to boys who win status contests with other boys and you describe that in the same breath as male and female lobsters. it doesn't make that case, it's a truism of

>> the equality between state and -- >> center periphery and center equality, something we take for granted. but during the era of the civil war of reconstruction this process remains ongoing. in fact the end of the mexican war reconstruction, 10 new states enter the union. most of them in the west. and these continue this process to which the united states claims and sustains a system where inequality has several meanings. first of all, they're supposed to be special equality between states. second, there is supposed to be individual equality between citizens. your beloved 13th, 14th, and 15th amendment. 13th amendment, what does it do? abolish slavery. does the 14th amendment due? >> guarantees citizenship -- >> what is your answer? >> citizenship. >> is he right? >> this is your lucky day. what was the 15th amendment? >> americans can vote. >> voting cannot be denied by race. >> excellent. in some ways these were very much reconstruction amendments. the 13th amendment, the elimination of slavery. the 14th and 15 amendments emerged as a logical extension of the way americans had come to u

it when you're saying a lot of nonsense under the israeli law all citizens are equal under the law it doesn't hinder it if you in arabic christian this is it doesn't matter people who are not israeli citizens nor did they want to be don't have israeli rights because they're not citizens but there's are two completely different topics one is a lie i don't think i was of the nation state bill. i'm not occupying you you are not really saying that he. doesn't. want to lend do you want i wouldn't mind again you said what i said before i don't mind implementing the israeli law over jordan's to marry and giving you fully equal rights but you keep ignoring that the thing is where you don't have israel sovereignty you cannot have them and i would know that i was going to gaza which is going to under hamas could you please stop interrupting me this is this is what will happen if you are going to tell you what i learned when we had the numbers and i'm going to give a shit there's a. lot of it. we're just running an audit and i'm just here on sentence go ahead be brief because i want to bring in

no i mean what he says is correct that it was there are laws that guarantee that everyone is equal the point of the matter is why wasn't that mentioned in this law and you know the labor party which you know to be live in the is very in one of the leaders of that party came to the prime minister people said all you have to do is put in a line democratic just put in a line about everyone's equal and then you won't have sixty people supporting you.

first league game in charge of rangers ended in a 1—1 draw after aberdeen scored an injury—time equalizerthe scottish premiership. scored an injury—time equalizer elsewhere, hibs beat motherwell 3—0. scored an injury—time equalizer british cyclist laura kenny won her second gold of the european championships in glasgow despite admitting she's still not back to her best after having her first baby. there were also golds in the pool today. our correspondent joe wilson reports. laura joe wilson reports. kenney started, nervously, she said, laura kenney started, nervously, she said, with 18 other riders. in the elimination race the slowest of removed until two sprinted for gold. it isa removed until two sprinted for gold. it is a thrilling format and lori kenny —— laura kenney loves it, so do the spectators. kenny first, after becoming a mother, she says she now put cycling second and i

for the women to exercise their equality rights in tunisia including for inhabitants women. working out how they are working and they are the bread winners of that family so they have to really have that i have. equal it had its rights in that no so we are very well coming that step of president george of course when it had it in silence and actually what it that has been campaigning for years for this issue to be prevailing in tunisia and we had a country of women in that region we are looking very much forward to each an experience in terms of equal in her rights because it will be a very good example for other women that each and to campaign and demand for equality in how to start what else do you want to push for what next i mentioned already that there were laws against violence against women there was the law that banned women from marrying last non muslims that was changed as well what else is on your agenda. yeah i think air now with the engine above the inheritance rights because there are there will be a but it does not end is there but especially that you have so

let's talk about plaque women's equal pay, you guys want to talk about black women's equal pay? cheering ) >> trevor: first, let's talk about creamsickles because i heard sometimes when you mentioned products on tv they send you free samples. >> that would be great. if someone out there owns equal pay, send me some! ( laughter ) trevor, on average, it takes black women 20 months to make what a white man earns in 12. with that ratio, if you putto olivia pope on 24, it would have to be called 39! ( laughter ) black women deserve equal pay because it's expensive. i've got to pay products for my natural hair, my fake hair. i wish i could use a three in one shampoo conditioner and body washes but i can't wash my hair with the same thing i wash my ass with! ( laughter ) isn't that something we should all believe? just two things! just get two things! >> trevor: i think it's also important for us to remember, dulls, that paying black women equally is right because it also allows them to buy more cream sickles. >> if you don't shut up saying cream sick also! shut up about these cream si

they were not just saying, look, we want equal pay for equal work and we want to have sports programs in colleges. they were attacking the entire society, what they called the patriarchy, marriage, family life, the sexual norms that had prevailed for hundreds of years. everything was going to be almost french revolution style. everything was going to be thrown out and we were going to start over. and so -- guest: hang on. there were lots of people in this movement. some of them were clearly on the radical side, but going back to betty friedan, even gloria steinem to some extent, they weren't going near that far. and to go back to our caller who has left us, i think she's quite right, that if you were a married woman in 1969, you couldn't sign for a home mortgage. you couldn't sign for credit cards without your husband's permission. there were some very important issues that women faced that had nothing to do with the more radical piece of what became the feminist agenda. guest: yeah, i think you and i might disagree about how radical they were. if you look at the writings, there were

. >> and talking about the idea that every individual is equal and has inalienable rights. in the opening of the book i talk about the declaration of independence which is that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with inalienable rights may focus on two of those issues, the issue of human equality that all humans are equal and all humans have inalienable rights among those the right to life so i'm specifically looking at the way the secular thought undermine that idea that humans are equal and that humans have in inalienable rights. >> why do you say that secular thought has undermined not. how has that happened in your view. >> if you look at the secular thinkers themselves, many will admit that they've done that. if you look at what they say about issues of human rights in such. we sort of have some talking from both sides of the mouth, others admit flat out that no, because there is no god, because there is nothing transcendent, that therefore humans make up their own morality and that doesn't give you any kind of fixed morality to go on. many, if you

no i mean what he says is correct that it was there are laws that guarantee that everyone is equal the point of the matter is why wasn't that mentioned in this law and you know the labor party which you know to be live in the is very and one of the leaders of that party came to the prime minister's feels that all you have to do is put in a line to democratic just put in a line about everyone's equal and then you won't have sixty people supporting you have a hundred and a law like this should pass with a really clear majority it was a clear majority it was you know it was it a majority and it was done like right before the knesset recess why this is like a major thing it should have been done with as much agreement as possible and the prime minister's people what was reported in the paper came back there and said no this has to be a definitive law we are doing this and it's not this and you know it's not it you know so it didn't really change very much because i still i'm asking people what has israel gained from this meaning has it really gained a lot because all these things as i said

and 98 years later, we're still fighting for equal representation and equal pay and equal treatments. so, you know, for my 9-year-old daughter, these are lessons that we talk about every night. and it's one of the reasons why i picked up legislation that supervisor farrell was sponsoring, which is to have more of our female represented in our public art. we want women -- we want more symbols of women for our children to look up to. and one of the reasons why we are, you know, putting forward a statue of dr. maya angelou. it's something that i'm looking forward to doing and we'll be doing that this fall. one other thing i was thinking about, too. on -- i'll never forget. january 4, 2007. i was on the treadmill at the j.c.c. watching leader pelosi and then congresswoman pelosi being sworn in as the first woman to become the speaker of the house. and i was on that treadmill for like two hours. i have to thank you for that workout. [laughter] because i could not stop watching and i will never forget when she was there with all the children around her and she said the house will come to or

, i to be equally rewarded for their efforts? , i have to be equally rewarded for their efforts? to the big games yet and i have been doing this for ten years. as soon as the new game comes out, somebody can just sit and play it for less than six months, for a fortnight, and already they can be the best player in the world and that could constitute an olympic medal. in the world and that could constitute an olympic medallj in the world and that could constitute an olympic medal. i think gaming could particularly do quite well. it has such a mad base already and it is becoming so big, especially in other continents across the world. my main thing, i would like to see them treated as the pinnacle of their sport, if they we re the pinnacle of their sport, if they were going to add it into the olympic programme. even if we were to have sort of an e—olympics, something detached from the real olympics, but keeping up with the times. it will be discussed at the summit in december. a bristol boxing club is pioneering a new way of helping older people with parkinsons. adults with the dise

the equal rights amendment. the amendment would actually certain kinds of changes to things like the social security act, the draft, other things that would not benefit the women's movement. women would have to be drafted just like men. windows would not be entitled to benefits that their deceased husbands were eligible for. she started a grassroots movement. america has a long history of grassroots movements. think of prohibition which began in similar kitchen tables and garages. she started this organization. ultimately, she was successful. it had come to within three states that needed to ratify. extended the time frame even more. together with her, she was able to defeat it. it is still not part of the constitution today. host: let's put some numbers on the screen as we look at the makeup of the house and senate. statue to the first woman in the house of representatives. in positions of power. book, what we see across the united states and the developed world is there are 23e senate and 83 in the house of re

speaking at the equality and human rights commission was amazing. it was a wonderful chance for me to be able to tell those people that can make the changes, you know, what needs to change and what needs to stay the same. but also, i can help them improve on where they're going wrong, you know? and my ambition for the future was to, is to be prime minister, you know, and i'd love to be prime minister. it's one of my ambitions. and why would you like to do that, finally? i'd love to be prime minister because i can help people that are facing through the same things that i've gone through, or even worse, and help them, so no—one from any background has to face what i've gone through — or even worse, in some cases. now it's time for a look at the weather. we can cross the newsroom to ben rich. it is good news if you don't like the rain, because boy, did we see enough of that yesterday? today there has been a lot of cloud but i'm sure many people will have enjoyed dry weather and the largely dry theme continues over the next few days, some rain but not

the country as a beacon of democracy in the middle east, promised complete, social and political equalityizens, that is a quote, regardless of religion. indeed, israel's founding prime minister warned the nation had to withdraw from the occupied territories after the six-day war or watch their young state descend into conflict between democracy and pluralism or identity. now all these years later, the still-occupied west bank and the lack of a peace process has proven the prophecy. joining me to discuss is a member of the knesset and she's leaders of the left-wing party which is petitioning the high court to overturn the law and we had hoped to have a proponent of the bill here to debate the issue. we invited almost a dozen senior officials to appear on the program with samma, and none would do so. miss samberg, welcome to the program. why are you petitioning the high court? after all, as the proponents say, there's nothing out of the ordinary in this bill. it's simply the right of the jewish people. the right of the jewish people to its own homeland after the tragedy of the jewish people

should people have equal rights? you would imagine that these questions were settled in the civil war. but in fact, they are extremely contested in the period after. he says in demanding quality black people are helping to reconstruct american democracy. that was his idea. but more importantly, at the end of the book he writes about reconstruction, it has a chapter called the propaganda of history. where he really takes the dunning school to task. he literally quotes them and their extremely racist views about like people. and the fact that they literally wrote -- the roadbed history. he wrote what southerners had said about reconstruction and pretty much reproduce that. he actually has a wonderful quote i'm going to read out to you, he says in his book, in this chapter and propaganda of history, "the magnificent figures -- these were the radicals. the have been be smudged beyond recognition. " remember the birth of the nation, "we have been controlling and flattering the south and slurring the north because the sout

they were not just saying, look, we want equal pay for equal work and we want to have sports programs and colleges. they were attacking the entire society of what they called the patriarchy, marriage, family life, the sexual norms that had prevailed for hundreds of years. everything was going to be almost french revolution style. everything was going to be thrown out and we were going to start over. and so -- guest: hang on. they weren't all -- there were lots of people in this movement. some of them were clearly on the radical side, but going back to betty friedan, even gloria steinem to some extent, to go back to our caller who has left us, i think she is quite right. if you were a married woman in 1969, you could not sign for a home mortgage or credit card without your husband's permission. so there were some very tactical issues women faced at that time, which had nothing to do with the sort of more radical piece of what became the feminist agenda. guest: i think you and i might disagree about how radical they were. if you look at the writings -- there were feminism blockbusters i

should people have equal rights? you would imagine that these questions were settled in the civil war but, in fact, they are extremely contested in the period after the war. so you are saying in demanding equality, black people are helping to reconstruct american democracy. that was the idea. but at the end of the book that he writes about reconstruction has a chapter called propaganda of history. he takes the dunning school too task. he quotes them and extremely racist views about black people. and the fact that they literally -- you know, he said they were bad history. they just wrote what southerners said about reconstruction and pretty much reproduced that. he actually has a wonderful quote that i'm going to read out to you. he says in his book, in this chap text the propaganda of history, the magnificent figures of charles sumner and thaddeus stevens, these were the radicals, right -- had been beesmirched. we have been cajoling and flattering the south and slurring the north because the south is determined to re

the 14th amendment has never been applied to give women equal rights, equal protection under the law. only the right to vote in the elections and the right to hold public office. those are the only two rights that the constitution of the united states guarantees us. everything else, she is protected by the laws, the common was of england. she had no rights. this was the first right. one case has gotten to the court -- supreme court under title vii. in that case the supreme court made a very unwise decision. a woman applied to martin marietta, i believe she was in florida. she had five children. they told her they would not take a woman who had children under the age of six. it was a three dollar an hour job. they admitted in court that they would not think of asking a man that question. the man did have children under six. this was a clear case of discrimination. the supreme court in its decision sent the decision back to the lower court for further information as to whether or not women with children under six were good employees. what kind of nonsense was that? what did that have to

. >> reporter: josh says the current system of electing a president is not equal. and the problem is the states. >> for many years essentialy every state including california has awarded all of the electoral vosohene t state's popular vote. >> it's called a winner take all system. votes in california. that's why a nonprofit called equal citizens are suing. >> the votes were tossed out. the republican candidate donald trump got zero votes from california. >> reporter: he wants his

i think what allies need to do is to says go beyond the rhetoric of equality and for instance what is it for instance a trans people really need that they own that they can only access by getting into for instance an institution like the military so differences medical health care issues trans people are routinely brutalize and even murdered in enormous numbers simply because they are treated to discrimination bigotry and what i think allies need to do is to consider what the conditions that create those inhospitable conditions how many times have you been deep into a fortnight battle royale and suddenly found avatar and simply killed because you added a one hand off of your controller to take a swig of cherry coke or trying to wrangle your barking showed all while talking to your mother on your smartphone won't worry no more multitasking hawk watchers because science has finally caught up to your needs and is offering you an extra hand quite literally an extra hand researchers at the advanced telecommunications research institute international in kyoto japan an announced this month t

for all regardless of religion or ethnicity but neither democracy or equality are mentioned once in the nation state law so as someone who advised on the drafting of this law what's your response to those who say it's racist undemocratic and certainly unequal. again the most important point to emphasize there's nothing in this law neither the creation of an official language of flag takes away anyone's rights or gives away anyone's rights and the equality was already in the constitution israel introduced constitutional guarantees of human dignity human rights and there's a constitutional right of equality that's already in the constitution israel does not have a constitution that was written all it wants instead it's written in little pieces and the human rights and equality provisions the provisions about democracy there are already there and when people say why aren't they in this basic law that's because they're already put in indeed israel did democracy before address the jewish character of the state so these criticisms i think a disingenuous. professor your argument doesn't ho

should people have equal rights? you would imagine that these questions were settled with the civil war, but, in fact, they are extremely contested in the period after the war and afterwards. so he's saying in demanding equality black people are helping to reconstruct american democracy. that was his idea. but more importantly dubois at the end of this mammoth book that he writes about reconstruction has a chapter called the propaganda of history where he really takes the dunning school to task. he literally quotes them and the extremely racist views about black people and the fact that they literally -- they wrote bad history. they just wrote what southerners had said about reconstruction and pretty much reproduced that. he actually has a wonderful quote that i'm going to read out to you, he says in his -- in his book in this chapter on the propaganda of history, the magnificent figures of charles sumner and thaddeus stevens, these were the radicals, right? you read thaddeus stevens, right, have been bee smersmirch

equality is -- an assumption of equality is that we are the same.n this context about girls, that gender, that women are just like men. they should be able to play like boys. anyone who resists that is relying on biological determinism, which is misguided. or is so caught up in gendered assumptions about what girls should do or boys should do that they cannot see that boys and girls are fundamentally equal. they are equal and the same in the most important ways. girls should play little league. all these kind of different sports. all these kind of different sports. boys and girls should happy together. there is not there is not a meaningful difference around gender. that leads itself to an equality argument. acknowledgesgument differences, some of biological but challenges hierarchy based on these differences. girls are different, in some ways biological and cultural. what they are interested in. what they want to do. programming should respond to that and not make that as a hierarchy. that should mean -- let's say we most of the girls want to do a

only way to get social equality is to make this country have equal opportunity for people who have talentrmentship. to be able to generate jobs. and my goal and i'm going to work very hard for that, is that we create the right environment so that we can have a middle—class expansion and put an end to extreme poverty. you are the latest president to come into office declaring that you will take on the narco traffickers, you will conquer colombia's drug problem, and you say you are going to get tough and demand more manual eradication, you're going to go back to the aerial fumigation and the use of pesticides fro mthe air to kill the crops, but i put it to you that all of this tough talk has been heard before and it never, ever works in colombia. what we need to have is coherence in policy. coherence means to have a state policy. we reduced illegal crops from 1999—2012 from 180,000 hectares to 50,000. today we have more than 200,000. what is it that we need to do? to have an integral programme that has to do with eradication and substitution but also to promote internementship and find prod

they were good french citizens, the french would given equal rights of many people like that.derstand that you have been invited to shed our blood in this world's war. i was shocked at trying to know and find an intellectual as brave asjohn who stood up, and stood up notjust against the war, but against colonialism and said what is the prospect for us as natives if you participate in this war‘s what is there for us? are we going to get independence are you going to move out of our country? that someday things will turn out well and that justice will prevail? signed byjohn on behalf of his countrymen! john is a baptist minister and at the start of the war, he wrote a letter to the newspapers saying what are we doing in this war? if it is a warfor gain in riches, let the rich men and the shopkeepers, go to war and get shot. all that's going to be left us is a long line of widows and orphans and in times of peace, everything for europeans. only in times of war are we invited to shed our blood in equality. and the letter saw as vicious and wouldn't publish it. after which led a sm

these were the people who hoped that after the first world war, there'd be equal rights.had shown themselves as good french citizens, the french would give them equal rights. many people like that. we understand that we have been invited to shed our blood in this world war. i was shocked to know and find out that there was an intellectual as brave asjohn chilembwe who stood up. this is the history we should be taught. he didn'tjust stand up against the war, he stood up against colonialism in africa and said, "what is the prospect for us as natives to participate in this war? what is there for us? are we going to get independence? are you going to move out of our country?" that someday things will turn out well and justice will prevail, signed byjohn chilembwe on behalf of his countrymen. john chilembwe is a baptist minister and at the start of the war he wrote a letter to the newspapers saying, "what are we doing in this war?" if it's a warfor gain and riches and government men, let the rich men and shopkeepers go to war and get shot. all that's going to be left to us is

and now i think we are seen as equal partners. that's important because we're role modeling that for other couples, other businesses and honestly, for our own kids, too, because we want this generation to grow up knowing that men and women are equal. they just are. >> bill, how weird was it for you? because, i mean, you are the -- you were the ceo, you're the, you know, master of the universe. what was it like, actually, kind of realizing that your wife was an equal partner? >> well, i've always benefited from having somebody who cared about what i was working on and could advise me, you know, at microsoft, that was paul allen in the early days, palmer. it's the best with melinda because she knows me so well that if i'm overenergetic about something or pushing a group too hard, you know, missing out on something that she sees, you know, partners help each other do a better job. we do specialize a bit. some topics i dive into. some of the science topics more. we have different proclivities but have a common goal and benefit from ea