clinton. >> yes, but donald has had a beef with eric schneiderman for years now because i wrote an articleity fair" about schneiderman come after trump university, and donald trump told me he was doing this for political reasons because he came to solicit a donation and donald trump wouldn't give him one. so as a retaliation, he went after him for trump university. so it is hogwash. donald trump violated the laws with regard to trump university. i assume as a result of exposure from david's excellent reporting he probably violated laws related to the trump foundation and eric schneiderman is doing his job by going after him, not being afraid. >> david, you know the thing is coming out with julian assange supposedly in the wee hours, do you have idea what it might be? have you heard anything? >> no, i have heard nothing. i'm as curious as everybody else. >> thank you, gentlemen. appreciate it. straight ahead, rudy guilliani praises donald trump as an economic genius, but did he hit hillary clinton with a sexist slam? the world's most exciting technology... ...doesn't go on your wrist. ♪ the

lou: right out of that playbook, eric schneiderman, new york attorney general, the ledges he is going to be to a ignorant nuisance, as he attacked donald trump whether a settlement ordealing with his small private foundation, the truc trump foundation, what is the deal? that looks like raw pedestrian ignorant col politics by a man who should more class and more regard for the taxpayer dollar. >> well, as a attorney general, here in arkansas, and for eric schneiderman to be my colleague, i am sorely disappointed in him, using office of attorney general for political gain, as an arm for democratic party and clinton campaign, and clinton machine. why isn't he investigating the clinton foundation, for example who took in hundreds of million of dollars. lou: he is scared to death of what he will find. >> that okay i agree, lou but they are in his backyard, why is he going after donald trump, and not secretary clinton? the american public is so much smarter than people like eric snid schneiderman and hillary clinton give them credit for, the american public can see right 3 this. lou: attorn

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new york attorney general eric schneiderman has ordered the foundation to immediately seize seeking contributions. they said the charity lacked required new york satisfaction k a notice of violation letter obtained by nbc warned that the charity shall be deemed a continuing fraud upon the people of new york unless it requires the requires paperwork in the next 15 days. the trump campaign responded. wile we remain very concerned about the political motives, the trump campaign will cooperate. him as a hack in the past. >> the trump campaign got new criticism after trump implied vets with ptsd can't handle the war. he seemed to suggest they're not strauj. >> when you talk about the mental health problems when people come back from war and combat and they see things that maybe a lot of folks in this room have seen many times over and you're strong and you can handle it. >> speaking about newly tax records, he said he brilliantly used tax laws to his bftd. >> the unfairness of the tax laws is unbelievable. it's something that i have been talking about for a long time. you have heard me talking about i

we do have breaking news coming from new york state where the attorney general eric schneiderman issuedder against the trump foundation, ordering the foundation to stop soliciting donations here in new york state. i want to bring in our political panel to discuss right now. eugene cot, cnn politics reporter, and alan scott and national political reporter for the "new york times." alex, this deals with something actually first reported in "the washington post." a fine paper, not yours, fine nonetheless, who noted that the attorney general in new york said the trump foundation doesn't have the proper certification to solicit money. let me throw up as graphic here what the attorney general said specifically. the notice directs the trump foundation to immediately cease soliciting contributions or engaging other fund-raising in new york and advise the chairman spe phied in section 172. technical talk, i don't want the trump campaign to raise any anymore. highway big a deal? >> comes out as excellent reporting by the "washington post" looking at a range of irregularities relating to the trump

john: eric schneiderman is always eager to get his face on tv by attacking business. >> the first amendmentnd gentlemen, does not give you the right to commit fraud. exxon he says is lying to its investors. if the world were to burn a portion of the oil the industry declares in its books, the planet would be destroyed. therefore it's overstating their assets. there may be massive securities fraud here. >> this is a bizarre idea by your insane and immoral attorney general about the future of co2 emissions and energy. the point is he's free to have that idea and exxon is free to have their ideas and i'm free to have my ideas and we should win or lose in the court of public opinion. john: what's the result of this? >> mostly positive is a lot ofpo attack the government with it many being uncivilized. i think often the people on the pro freedom side react in an academic way. but it's important to supplement that by saying you are a thug and i'm not going to go to cocktail parties with you and try to charm you. john: the difference between a civilized and you uncivilized society has to do with t

. >> reporter: today new york attorney general eric schneiderman, a clinton supporter, ordered trump's charitable foundation to stop soliciting contributions in new york because it is not properly registered with the state. schneiderman is also investigating charges trump used charitable funds for personal gain. trump's campaign said the foundation will comply with the order. earlier today in northern virginia, trump was asked about mental hillary clinton for veterans and said those who suffer from post traumatic stress disorder are "not as strong" as those who do not. for years veterans groups have tried to erase the stigma of weakness once associated with post traumatic stress disorder. >> pelley: major garrett, thank you. today hillary clinton tried to turn trump's financial losses to her political gain. here's nancy cordes. >> what kind of genius loses $1 billion in a single year? >> reporter: trump's tax plan gave clinton a chance to chip away at his biggest selling point, his business acumen. >> how anyone can lose $1 let alone $1 billion in the casino industry is kind of beyond

. >> today new york attorney general, eric schneiderman, clinton supporter, ordered the trump foundation to stop soliciting contributions in new york because it is not properly registered with the state. schneiderman is investigating charges trump used funds for personal gain. trump said the foundation will comply with the order. clinton wasted no time. her campaign rushed a new tv ad on to the airwaves. and clinton told supporters trump has taken corporate excess and made a business out of it. nancy cordes reports. >> what kind of genius lose a billion dollars in a single year? >> trump's tax plan gave clinton a chance to chip away at his biggest selling point. his business acumen. >> now how any body can lose a dollar let alone a billion dollars in the casino industry >> you work hard. you pay your taxes. >> clinton and top democrats quickly cut ads to capitalize on the news they had been anticipating for months. >> i want a president who is proud of our country. not a president who its proud of getting out of paying taxes. >> reporter: her stops in akron and toledo marked clinton any

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the trump foundation, new york attorney general eric schneiderman who is a supporter of hillary has been investigating the trump foundation, and he said the trump foundation needs to stop raiding money because they lack the appropriate certification to be collecting moneys from the general public in the state of new york in excess of $25,000 per year. we have not heard from donald trump on this just yet, but we got a statement moments ago saying while we remain very concerned about the political motives, the trump foundation never the less intends to cooperate fully with the investigation. donald trump as you can imagine, eager to turn around the narrative from what for all intents and purposes was a pretty horrible week for the campaign last week. and running up against roadblocks that the clinton campaign keeps throwing in his way. >> yeah, and poles showing that trump is facing pretty big problems in colorado. yeah, he is, a new poll came out just a short time ago and shows that trump is trailing hillary clinton by 11 points, gary johnson is at 7 points. if you look back in july, the

the trump campaign says it will cooperate with the investigation and also accusing eric schneiderman acting from political motives. >>> new this morning, kelly ayotte from new hampshire says she misspoke during the debate with her challenger. when she said that donald trump would absolutely be a good role model for kids. watch this. >> would you tell them to be like donald trump? would you point to him as a role model? >> i think that certainly there are many role models we have and i believe he can serve as president. absolutely i would do that. >> so that's what she said during the debate. a statement after senator ayotte said i misspoke tonight. i hope all our children would aspire to be president, neither donald trump nor hillary clinton have held up to be president. she says she does not endorse donald trump, but she plans to vote for him. in the race for new hampshire is tight right now. could be the key race to determine the senate going forward. as for farmville, virginia at longwood university, a one-time face-off. vice presidential candidates go head-to-head. mike pence of

ties to hezbollah and hamas and today we learned that on friday the new york attorney general eric schneiderman sent him a letter letting him know the foundation -- ordering it to seize fundraising immediately. donald trump does not have all the many more new cycles left a burn. ete burning question, can he g off the defensive end onto the offense of before the debate on sunday and if so, how? isk: the public polling mostly bad for him. there is a few bright spots but he has lost friends at since the debate. he is on the defensive and the debate performance is what set it off. ,nd so i think the press barring some huge disclosure about hillary clinton i think trump will be on the defensive. he can claw his way back that it does wait for the debate. john: here is how this tech problematic. that angle.suing the argument would be powerful if he put his tax returns out and said here is the waste in which i manipulated the system. i will put all that to an end when i am president. people like me would not be able to do what i did here but we are still left as the question, what else is in the tax re

ordered the trump foundation to cease funding in state what do you make of allegations from eric schneiderman it what i find ironic trump permission to zero employees zero overhead zero this zero that clinton foundation every one of their friends has jobs every one of their friends children has jobs you look at half major networks news outlets, the people who reason i networks children work at clinton foundation did work -- i mean the web of twistedness is unbelievable, really, really bad web of corruption is really terrible, and you look at haiti, where that money was misappropriated you look at clinton foundation taking 35 million dollars, from saudi arabia, one of the largest abusers of women minority in the world and three days later getting weapons deals from state department the level of corruption there was unbelievable. and i mean, the clinton foundation was on piggy bank bill and hillary's payingy bank. >> that senates with american people not what eric schneiderman is looking at you are facing fighting against other side media on hillary's said to against eric schneiderman attorney

reporter: the trump campaign pushed back an announcement from eric schneiderman. he issued a notice to cease and desist soliciting contributions in new york following the road pizza night of many democrats claim the foundation violated new york violated new york law by fund-raising this year without being properly very. the trump spokesperson said while we remain very concerned about the political motives behind ichi sentiments investigation the trump foundation intends to cooperate with the investigation because this is an ongoing legal matter the trump foundation will not comment her there at this time. nicole: thank you, peter barnes. lauren: vice presidential candidates set to debate today. now cheap fox news jennifer griffin. reporter: lauren, nicole, we are here armed outcome university one of the oldest colleges in the country. this is an historic site for the first vice presidential debate. the northern section is the site of the effect event of the american civil war. one of the last places for the wars then. love it to candidates at 9:00 p.m. eastern and

reporter: also today, trump campaign is pushing back on announcement from new york attorney general eric schneidermanhe issued a notice to trump's charity to cease and desist from sew lives iting in new york. schneiderman, a democrat, saying they violated new york law but fund-raising without being properly registered. trump spokesman said we remain very concerned about political motives about the ag snyder man, the trump. because this is on going legal matter the trump foundation will not comment further at this time. melissa. melissa: peter, interesting stuff. thank you. >> maybe he doesn't want the american people, all of you watching tonight, to know that he has paid nothing in federal taxes. david: that was hillary clinton in the debate last week suggesting she knew something about donald trump's unreleased tax report. lo and behold, a few days later "the new york times" publishes his tax reports saying exactly what hillary clinton said it would say. so, was any law broken? and was there collusion between the irs, the clinton campaign, and "the new york times"? here now is lis wiehl, fox news le

ties to hezbollah and hamas, and today we learned that on friday the new york attorney general eric schneiderman sent him a letter notifying him that his charitable foundation is notifying -- violating state law for soliciting donations without the proper certification and ordered him to seize fundraising immediately. donald trump does not have all that many more new cycles left to burn. the burning question, so to speak -- can he get off the defensive and onto the offensive before the debate on sunday, and if so, how? john: not entirely. the public polling is mostly bad for him. clearly, he has lost ground since the debate. defensive, and the debate performance is what set it off. and so i think the press, even if things go slightly his way, barring some huge disclosure about hillary clinton -- i think trump will be on the defensive. he can claw his way back, but it really does wait for the debate. here is why i think this tax story is problematic for him. the reporters want to get these stories out as soon as possible, ideally before the debate, so they are pursuing that angle. trump's argumen

. >> you have a clinton supporter eric schneiderman who launched an investigation into the trump foundation there's plenty to go around. >> what do you say? >> i am going to be hopeful if hillary clinton wins, which polls look like she is going to, that the country rallies behind her and there will be a little bit of bipartisan good will for a while. it might be naive, but i'm thinking on immigration reform, perhaps infrastructure we could have six months of positive action on capitol hill. this idea of scorched earth policy continuing on both sides, i don't know if the american public has the stomach for it. i do think how big a margin hillary clinton wins matters and whether the democrats get the senate matters. but if trump pulls less than mitt romney and john mccain did, it is not a trump revolution, it is a trump peter out bringing the republican party in a backwards direction. i think you will see responsible republicans wanting to try to do some business at least for a little while with hillary clinton. >> so what if trump wins? >> well, if trump wins it is a revolution, and it reall

letter asks the trump foundation to send any delinquent financial reports to attorney general eric schneiderman's5 days. "the washington post" reported the foundation lacked a certification to solicit donors. "while we remain very concerned about the political motives behind attorney general schneiderman's investigation, the trump foundation intends to comply fully." >>> this morning a crush of new polls to wade through. let start nationally. in the latest cbs news poll, hillary clinton's lead has grown to 4 points when you include third-party candidates. a turnaround from september when the poll had the race in a dead heat. while the debate had no effect on about half of all voters, 32% of likely voters who watched the debate say they think better of clinton in the wake of her performance. 36% say they think worse of trump. in the latest cnn/orc poll, clinton has seen a 7-point swing. see leads 47-42. the last time quinnipiac university polled florida trump and clinton were neck and neck. now clinton has opened a 5-point lead, 46-41. clinton sits at a 4-point lead in pennsylvania by a nearly ide

trump campaign is talking about the cease and desist order from new york's attorney general eric schneiderman levied get the trump foundation, he alleges the trump founding does not have the requisite sections to fund address in new york, the trump cal -- campaign, without saying whether it would comply and stop fundraising put out a statement today from one of trump's spokesman people saying why we remain concerned about the political movements behind the investigation the trump foundation intends to cooperate fully with the investigation, which could read they we cease from raising money. hicks says the trump foundation will not comment further at this time. trump has been trying to get past some of the things hat happened to trump campaign in the last ten days or so from the debates, the other night at hofstra to at the tax return but the clinton campaign and people who are aligned with if the clinton campaign keep throwing road blockness his way. >> you mention it it was rough week for him last week, and i it was. i just wonder if the trump team has dunk you any indication our he plans to

remember, the attorney general, a democrat, eric schneiderman tangled with donald trump before. notably when the two went toe to toe over trump university. donald trump got in a twitter spat, if you will,ith schneider man. coming up i 20 minutes, we'll have david fahrenthold who has been the center of a lot of this reporting. kelly o'donnell joins me in washington. thanks for being here. one of the things when we talk about the breaking news with the trump foundation, i have to ask if we expect to hear from top republicans about this. they have been silent about what we have been discussing which is donald trump's very bad week. >> we have heard from the official surrogates and few others. there is very little upside for republicans wo their own races to run or supporting an office holder in their home state. very little upside to credit size trump. you could offend his voters and little upside to defend him on issues like this. talking about taxes most said release your tax returns. it is the standard. most office holders do that. we spoke with mitch mcconnell before he left wa

they're seizing on the fact that new york attorney general eric schneiderman is a hillary clinton supporter essentially questioning whether this investigation is politically motivated. i want to read you the statement that trump campaign manager put out today saying, while we remain very concerned about the political motives behind a.g. snyderman's investigation, the trump foundation, nevertheless, intends to cooperate fully with the investigation because this is an ongoing legal matter, the trump foundation will not comment further at this time. brooke, this comes as "the washington post" has done some phenomenal reporting that really questions the way donald trump has used his foundation in some ways, apparently, to benefit his businesses. back to you. >> we talked to david fahrenthold last hour. he's been the one digging and digging. sara murray, thank you so much. let me bring my panel back in with me. jeff toobin, to you, sir, the cease and desist, what does it mean for the trump foundation? might this mean the foundation pays back the -- i don't know ifif millions is the right word. i

debate, down in most polls according to "the new york times" will be seated on the dais with eric schneiderman, new york attorney general, whose office currently has an investigation into mr. trump's foundation, it doesn't sound likely trump will be in the mood for dinner that's taken on the air of a roast. >> i was actually hoping the president would bring joe biden along this evening because he'll laugh at anything. >> of course, the economy's on everybody's minds. unemployment rate is at its lowest level since i took office. i don't have a joke here. i just thought it'd be useful to remind everybody that the unemployment rate is the lowest it's been since i took office. >> tonight's dinner, presided over by cardinal timothy dolan, archbishop of new york, seated between hillary and trump. that's the way these things always work. when we come back, we'll preview what promises to be quite a night. >>> can't shake that feeling that some people here are pulling for me. i'm delighted to see you here tonight, hillary. >> it is an honor to be here with al smith. i obviously never knew your great-gr

new york attorney general eric schneiderman has ordered t the donald j. trump foundation to immediately stop soliciting donations in new york state, saying the foundation is not registered under state law. it's the latest blow to trump's familyly foundation, which has been facing increasing scrutiny during the election. a series of "washington post" investigations have revealed the foundation has also broken u.s. laws by using hundreds of thousands of dollars from the foundation to pay off legal fees associated with trump's for-profit businesses. the investigations have also shown donald trump has not personally donated to his foundation since 2008 and that he's also used foundation money to buy advertisements for his hotels and to buy at least two expensive portraits of himself. this comes as a "new york times" investigatation reveals the trup organization came incredibly close to collapse in the 1980's, leading trump to amass $3.4 billion in debt by 1990. the following year, the casino control commission determined "mr. trump cannot be considered financ

. >> also, you look at the a.g., you look at eric schneiderman, something you here from the trump campaign. they point out he's a democrat, an open hillary clinton supporter. why -- wouldn't he risk his own credibility by doing this four weeks from the election? why not wait so there isn't a single bit of appearance of playing politics here? >> well, in this case, i think he reacted because we brourt it to him. i discovered this and brought it to him. i think he had to react to that. the timing of this particular cease and desist order is more related to what came into his office more than anything they decided to do on their own. it will be interesting to see what he does next. this is a complicated investigation. it's not the kind of thing i think attorney generals usually do in a few weeks. we'll see whether he does anything more on the trump foundation before election day or whether this takes the normal timetable and lasts until long after the election. >> drew, back to you, on the certification, i think the 20,000 or 25,000 donations where you have to have this certification, didn't

off-course when earlier today it was reported that the office of new york attorney general, eric schneidermanat supporting hillary clinton, ordered the donald j. trump foundation to stop fund-raising in new york state, because it's not properly registered, specifically, cease and desist letter found that the trump foundation was engaged in solicitation or fund-raising activities in new york state in 2016 is not and was not registered. the action comes in the wake of a report by "the washington post," that found that the trump foundation lacks the certification required for charities that solicit money. when asked about the letter, trump campaign press secretary hope hicks issued the following statement. while we remain very concerned about the political motives behind ag schneiderman's investigation, the trump foundation plans to cooperate fully with the investigation because this is an ongoing legal matter. the trump foundation will not comment further at this time. for more on this story, i'm joined by the guy who wrote the piece, davidfahrenthold. you came up with the investigation. you kn

that then we got the news the state's attorney general, eric schneiderman, has decided not to intervenes a special prosecutor in the case because supposedly -- she's a list of most to investigate fatal police shootings where the citizens are unarmed. bat, she was holding a supposedly, that means she was armed? >> i was surprised by that. everybody is looking for an advocate. a lot of us thought he was an advocate in the situation that we could count on. when he made the decision, he was kind of taking his hands off of it. i was really surprised. he has left it now to the bronx da to file charges. what happened was not just wrong -- that is part of what bothers me about what the left mayor de blasio and the police commissioner has said. it wasn't just a mistake. a woman who deserved treatment and compassion was shot and killed. we're talking about a crime. at the very least, it was negligent homicide, manslaughter. it was completely avoidable. one of us could have found a way to take her to the hospital. so a police officer who is trained, a sergeant, should have been able to. amy: what

and today we also learned that on friday, new york attorney general eric schneiderman sent trump a letter that his charitable foundation is violating state law for soliciting donations without the proper certification and ordered its to cease its fund-raising immediately. so, mark, donald trump does not have all that many more news cycles left to burn, so the question -- the burning question, so to speak, can he get off of defense and on to offense before the debate on sunday? and if so, how? >> not entirely. the public polling that's out today, which we'll discuss later in the program, is mostly bad for him. there's a few bright spots, but clearly, he's lost ground since the debate, all the totality of the national and battleground state polling suggests. he'ses he's on the defensive and the debate performance is what it set it all off. barring some huge disclosure about hillary clinton, i think trump's going to be on the defensive. he can claw his way back, but it really does weight for the debate. >> here's how this tax story is problematic for him. first of all, the reporters involved

trump foundation which was told to stop fund-raising in new york by the same attorney general, eric schneidermans a strong hillary clinton supporter. so is politics behind an unequal application of the law with these foundations? with us charles ortel financial whistle-blower who found major gaps in clinton records. is there any question in your mind which foundation deserves more scrutiny, which one is it? >> certainly the clinton foundation, various entities we know about, and those people have not begun to focus upon yet. the once we know about declared $2 billion in incoming donations. trump you're talking about less than 50 million. david: just in size you have two billion as opposed to couple of million. we're focusing now on the reporting, because the trump foundation reporting wasn't up to snuff. neither was the clinton foundation reporting. what are the biggest gaps in the clinton foundation reporting? >> biggest gap, bar none, the fact they are supposed to provide real audits, strict audits. new york state has tough laws on this. the clinton foundation never procured a legally complian

. >>> and contributions in new york state, eric schneiderman said the donald j. trump foundation is not properly registered. he's also investigating charges trump used charity funds for personal gains. trump's campaign said, quote, while we remain very concerned ab behind the attorney general's investigation, the trump foundation intends to cooperate fully with the investigation. >> 46% of voters are very enthusiastic about voting. that's seven points higher than last month. >> 46% of donald trump's supporters are enthusiastic as well but that's down two points from last month. the poll shows independent robby mook is joining us, he's hillary clinton's campaign manager joining from us richmond, virginia. getting ready for the big debate tonight. robby, good morning. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> when kellyanne conway was here last hour, she said we can expect a fiery debate from mike pence. what are tim kaine's marching orderses when mos know who he is? >> we're hoping to make the make the biggest investment in jobs, help families afford college and c

trump's campaign czsays while w remain concerned about the eric schneiderman investigation, they never cooperated fully with the investigation. >> rising enthusiasm from hillary clinton voters after the first debate. 46% of them are now very enthusiastic about voting. that is seven points higher than last month. >> 46% of donald trump supporters are very enthusiastic as well. that is down two points from last month. a poll also shows that independent voters prefer donald is joining us from rich monld, virginia. getting ready for the big debate tonight. robby, welcome. >> good morning. thanks for having me. >> we're glad you're here. this is the first and only vp debate. when kellyanne conway was here, she said we can consider this from pence. how is he going to breakthrough? >> well, what we're hoping is he has the opportunity to do is to talk about the agenda that he' the biggest investment in jobs since world war ii, help families afford college and health care. and basically talk about the issues. that's when we always do best as a campaign. as you mentioned, i think the trump campa