failed to take any actions concerning ethics violations. this is just under an hour. >>> hello, i'm the policy director of campaign legal center, and i want to welcome everyone. this is supposed to be, what we hope will be a round table discussion. about potential reforms to the ethics process. we are pleased to have a very wide range of groups. let me just first off, give some -- a list of the groups, to try and really push for reforms. in addition to campaign legal center, citizens for reresponsebility, and common cause and, democray 21, and judicial watch, and thomas man, the league of women voters, and the projects, on oversight. and public citizens, and taxpayers for common sense,. >>> it's a pretty diverse group. >>> we cannot lob which, and as a individual, i'm very supportive of this. >>> adam,. >>> i'm craig, government affairs lob whichist, and i want to note one of the few lob whichists who calls himself that. >>> i'm the director of legislative affairs. >>> i'm with the american enterprise, and here as a individual. >>> i'm goin

i think that the senate ethics process is broken, knowing that the house ethics process needs some improvement, one of the ways you began to reconnect with members of the public is, you have a congress that is viewed as having good ethical standards, high ethical standards, and a process that works. when you have a process where allegations arise in the senate and go into the black call never to be heard from again, this is not a way to increase congressional approval. it is not the total answer, but it is part of an answer of how you reconnect a representative body with the american people. >> trying to get senate candidates and senators talking about ethics issues during the campaign season can be healthy so that the public can see solutions that senators are proposing, at least just getting this to be a salient issue that senators are talking about. hopefully somebody who actually talks about it will do something about it in the near future. >> we know that right now of the committees that write the rules are, in fact, meeting. and that is actually happening now. so if we wait until january

and number four refers to the number of investigations the ethics commission conducted. and the answer is 0. why is that? >> this section refers specifically to the complaints that are filed under chapter four with just the privatization and protection and we may have received the complaints that alleged certain violations of sections within that chapter. but, none needed the full investigation. >> so, what does that mean if they were not within the jurisdiction of the ethics commission. >> well it could be that there was no evidence or reason to believe that a violation of that particular section alleged occurred? >> when this refers to the number of investigations, the ethics commission conducted that does not include the investigations that were conducted but did not lead to a what a formal complaint being prepared? >> and it, and it did not, and it did not lead it a formal investigation. so, it may have been in the preliminary review phase. >> and what example, a lot of the whistle blower retaliation complaints that come from the people who have never been city emplo

and they're left to this, a good resolution, and going to the ethics committee, and the process against, if they the subpoena power, they could get definitive answers. >>> the same lawyers, for those parties, that urge them not to participate, in an investigation, if oce then sends a report, saying we can answer these questions, so we recommend you pursue the investigation, those same lawyers, will say, you're using it as a negative mark. and that's part of the awkward situation. if oce had subpoena authority, it could do more research. >>> i can think of one exam pel, there's an investigation of congressman, bill and pete, involving trips to taiwan, and it talked about how, lobbyists who were involved, refused to cooperate. this made oce's job more difficult. >>> the point is, is to make oce's investigation as thorough as possible, without having to kick it over to the house ethics committee. >>> is it because they expected, oce, to be. [inaudible] >>> well, i mean, i can only speculate, my conclusion, would be that they have been surprised, that oce has been as effective as it has bee

comment on matters appearing or not appearing on the agenda that are within the jurisdiction of the ethic's commission. >> good afternoon, my name is mrs. jackson. >> >> i am getting the papers together for you. thank you. last week i went before the civil service commission and the statement that is here and that i am giving to you is the same statement that was presented to them concerning the news article that you have before you, about the statements that he had made. dear chair person, the black human rights leadership council of san francisco is a coalition of dozens of community lead theirs came together, and in 2012, and order to promote the opportunity and fairness for black san franciscans recently we have been focused on issues pertaining to housing and employment. last week, we raised a matter that concerned both the these issues in san francisco, civil service commission and we will raise the same matter with you. >> we have many, members who live and in the dilapidated conditions who have indicated to us that there is no maintenance occurring on the housing authority sites and

ethics laws. abused thewho has state plane. a governor who had to report state income from a consulting firm. that is what we have right now. we have seen too many high-ranking elected officials in south carolina whitewashed ethics problems, get in trouble, and pretend like nothing has happened. it is wrong for governor haley to violate ethics laws. it is an acceptable to we will never have ethic leadership. we have to have ethical leaders elected. whoeed to have someone willfully disclose or income. i turned my tax returns over the last 14 years. we need an independent investigatory body. the governor appoints her own ethics committee. reform has been a strong part of everything that i have done, from the time that i was a legislator. now they vote on the record on everybody's of legislation. we fought for income disclosures. with proper term limits. i do agree with everything that mr. prince said, in terms of where we need to go. we need to have income disclosures, and we need to have independen

8.a, it says that once a complaint is filed, no ethics commission staff member shall engage in oral or written communications outside of a meeting and the same rule should apply to the task force members, in addition, the sunshine and ethics training video on the city attorney's website, that the pilpel effectively has reviewed numerous times, clearly, indicates that the task force has been adjudicated body, and he should not be violating the procedural rules such as bans on exparta communications. and for these reasons, i am asking the ethics commission to calendar or a discussion to resubmit the dismissal of my second sia complaint and hear both of them. and i have been waiting, for months, for you to calendar a hearing, on mr. pilpel. and it is way overdue, commissioner, you need to prove this along. >> good afternoon, my name is karin hugens and i am president of the holly courts president council, it is 120 units of public housing in vernal heights and i am also the ceo of the new, san francisco residents union, where we support section 8, and sros, and senior disabled house an

and number four refers to the number of investigations the ethics commission conducted. and the answer is 0. why is that? >> this section refers specifically to the complaints that are filed under chapter four with just the privatization and protection and we may have received the complaints that alleged certain violations of sections within that chapter. but, none needed

one is regarding the integrity of the data, what are we doing as a city or as an ethics commission to insure that the data that is being stored is being protected? and i know that you can download and it manipulate it, and what are we doing to make sure that it does not get compromised. >> nobody on the commission staff actually has the rights to modify the data. and we can assist, and buyers with completing the forms, but, once they submit it, it goes over to the net file system and it is locked. and every city, in california, at this point that is doing electronic filing with the exception of los angeles is going through the same process. and so, they will not actually do anything to their systems unless they received the written requests from us. >> and so, is net file, responsible for maintaining the entegty of the data? >> yes. >> do you know what they do to insure that it is not hacked or compromised? >> well, first of all they keep an enormous number of back ups. and so, i am not particularly concerned about the integrity of the data in that we have so many snapshots of it, on

that lawsuit was filed, that the ethics commission ever having discussed it first. and these drafts recommendations regarding the task force referrals, one would think, a reasonable person would think that you are taking action. but you have not taken any action, because you have not even discussed it yet, in a meeting. so, it seems to me, that the cart is before the horse, again. you need to tighten up these processes. >> next on the aagenda is presentation by the code for america's sf brigade. >> steven, are you going to make a introduction. >> as you may recall, last month, we gave a presentation about the individualization projects that i have been working on as part of the staff and today we have some members of a community group called the sfbrigade, which is part of code for america. and they have been working on a similar project, and they have been using our open data, website to access our information and so actually the data visualization projects that i built and the projects that they are working are, are working on the same source data, and so just to

my question is, governor, did you know that the ethics advice you are given is that she was violating her ethical responsibilities by using staff and using her title and was it your direction that actually told your staff to change the ethical opinion so it would allow her to continue to do those things? >> would you like to respond? >> as i said, when we, when she came into office, we have the obvious issue of the first lady and we set up procedures and processes. it was multilayered. we worked very hard and diligently to make sure her activities fell within the spirit and the intent and the letter of oregon ethics laws. i believe that they did and do. >> i will ask on behalf of the voters, looking forward, i think there are people who would like to know what role you see her playing if you are reelected. she had mentioned she would maybe like a bigger role as one of your advisors. i think ballots will be arriving tomorrow. what will they expect? >> cylvia is taking personal time to address these issues herself and does not have a role in the administration. will not have a role unti

. >> and also the legislation of ethics.that the way to go about it when it comes to legislators behaving badly? the governor just made a move against some of these new rules. >> there's questions about whether the rules were really a change at all. >>> sad news in southern california where ten people died in two separate crashes just hours apart. five day dyed in a multicar dry on a narrow road in chino. hours later, a success-car accident in irvine killed five teenagers. three boys and two girls were coming back from a halloween event at knot's berry farm. the car flipped over and went up an embankment on i-5. the 16-year-old driver was the only survivor. she hospitalized with -- he is hospitalized with serious head injuries. speed may be a factor. >>> the crash in chino killed four friends in a pickup truck. this person died in another car. flames engulfed two of the vehicles before witnesses could get anyone out. police are looking into whether racing may have led to that crash. >>> and investigators are looking into the

what if there was no ethic in hollywood journalism. [laughter] if we can't trust entertainment tonight or tnt, where would we be. is that what you want for gamer journalism. >> i think that is a sort of compelling way to reframe the fact that this is actually an attack on women. ethics and journalism is not what's happening in any way. it's actually men going after women in really hostile aggressive ways. that's what gamergate is about. it's about like terrorizing women for being involved. >> stephen: as a man, am i allowed to be a fellness. >> you believe that women should have equal rights to men and we should fight for those rights. >> stephen: sure. >> great, then you're a feminist. [cheers and applause] >> stephen: anita sarkeesian, bacardi family. the fire of 1880 couldn't stop us. nor did prohibition in the 1920's. or exile from our home country in the 60's. the bacardi family didn't just survive, we thrived. because true passion can't be tamed. >> stephen: welcome back. thank you very much. thank you very much. the great thing

but i didn't yet think of that ethic as an ingenious filtering of my fathers catholicism through his medical training. i was not raised in the church and endeavor to communion, side was not reminded of jesus offering his blood so we might all live when my father spoke of the universal donor. but i believe even then that we owe each other our bodies. every time a father went out in a boat, he took a life preserver with his name and organ donor printed usually on a in permanent ink. it was a joke in which he believed quite sincerely, when it got me to drive a gave me this its eyes from his own father. you are responsible not just for the car you're driving, but also for the car ahead of you and the car behind you. learning to drive all three cars is daunting and inspired an occasional paralysis that plagues my driving to this day. but when i turned my license i signed my name under organ donor. the very first decision i made for my son, a decision in acted within moments of his body coming free of mine was to the donation of his umbilical cord blood to republic bank. at 30, i only dona

someone did file ethics violation with me in 1994. my opponent.d by the ethics commission i expect that will happen again today. we have taken an allegation that is undocumented, unproved, and trialing it as though it war fact and someone is das separate enough to go down that route razorrous questions why have that to offer oregon except nor fact they're not me and that doesn't quite cut it in the state as in terms of leadership and the serious conditions facing oregon. >> moderator: representative, you stated should you become governor you would create a tradition of lieutenant governor. not elected. specifically, who due you have in mind. >> the funding will take place out of the governor reside budget. who i have in mind, departments on what let qualifications. the reason for lieutenant governor is to give status to an individual who will promote international trade. oregon is a leader in exports and we need to expand that to create jobs in oregon's economy you need to create greater demand for services and products. greater demand means you h

not ethical according to a higher power.about our world view and where are we going to determine what's right or wrong? >> i have a question interested in your response. do you think god could do what god wants to do and has to work through a ventilator. we have technology that we start and technologies we stop that people often say to me i can't sh shut them off because it's not my decision. we decide to start them. miracles are going to happen. >> the difference is between ordinary and extraordinary means. ordinary is i do what's normal. i feed you. i help you along. extraordinary is i step in and i make you breathe. at the point that i make you breathe, i've stepped in. i'm not saying that someone doesn't have a choice to do that. i'm saying that when i'm doing that, i'm actually in the place where i'm kind of playing god at that point. >> the ethic we have in this country from the time of our founding is not a religious pavement. it's a lay ethic. it's my right as an individual to determine my own fate. that's what this

how do you code for ethics? >> so this is -- i mean, as the twitter people mentioned, the problem here is we still find it very hard to quantify what human morality is or human ethics, so the starting point for the u.s. military research is actually having to work out how does a human make a moral decision? if you are driving your own car and you have a choice of running over two people, which one do you choose to run over? this decision plagues people for a long time. once you work out what human morality is, in theory you can program it into a computer. it would probably take the form of a huge number of questions, like millions of questions like you will take as much data as you can. what does the person look like? every kind of thought that goes through your head to make a decision and it would try to work out the answer. at end of the day, the robot is making that decision, which is very hard for us to get our heads around. >> the hard part for me to get my head around is not that it's not logic, right? fee

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do you think it's ethically okay? >> as long as it's properly labeled as advertising, i think it's a brand new strategy and a new vehicle and a new avenue for media sites to pursue and certainly for advertisers to express themselves in a new forum from a marketing standpoint. it's got to be very thoughtful and recognize that this is advertising and label it so, you know, readers aren't confused by what the story is about and what is its content and why is the register, "the new york times," "the washington post," whatever organization it might be, why are they write being it? well, it's not. special content created online from that advertiser. now, i think it's a very important new line of revenue, it's a new marketing strategy for those advertisers, and you would be i think totally remiss by not trying to pursue it and understanding it, making it happen. >> thank you. >> hi, rick. i'm lisa and my question actually also has to do with native advertising. >> yes. >> so as journalists when we go out into the job market

principles. >> reporter: ethical issues d.c. attorney scott oswalt says that cross over into the protection of workers who are employed in high risk positions that might come in contact with an ebola patient. >> doctors have a separate oath to their patient. they have a patient/doctor responsibility, but workers in high risk areas as an example have a right not only to refuse to work, but to insist that the employer provide them with certain kinds of protection. >> reporter: as it comes to lawsuits say in the dallas case, possible legal claims could be brought by the ebola patient and hospital workers. however, texas tort reform measures may make it difficult to prevail. basically texas law says hospital staff would have to knowingly put people at extreme risk. jim osman, wusa9. >>> turning to weather, topper is concerned about some big storms brewing tomorrow. >> top, do we need to allow extra time for the morning or perhaps the evening or both commutes? >> tell you what, i think showers will be here in the morning light and in

laws so we have an abundance of caution to be sure though letter of spirit and intent of the ethicsaws and that is why we turned over to the ethics commission to ask them to review the process and procedures. >> favor change before they had the ethical opinion. >> moderator: moving on to other topics but later in the show later we will have questions sent in by the viewers and from oregonians. if you have of question tweed it with #orgovdebate. now going to the rest of of topics and investigative reporter here at kgw-tv in covering this case for a the oregonians and associate professor keeping time before us but you have of question 46. >> you trail the opposing critics say you're out of step with the majority of voters in oregon but what you say for those to support you now to get them to reconsider? richardson: but governor kitzhaber is just not running for governor but a fourth term and he does not deserve it. over the last 18 years the education system is a dismal failure. we are next-to-last in graduation rates. our trust in government has never been worse. $300 million and a h

and we are going to continue working with the ethics commission, and as much as possible. and for, you know, the foreseeable future, continue working on this project, which is really just a sort of start. so, yeah. thank you. >> for the public, can you tell us the name of the website? it is hard to see on the screen. >> yeah, the website is transparent voting.com. this is the url that we have chosen for this particular visualization we have the get hub repo which is the place where we store our code, and we can put a link to it on this page, after we go. >> great, so the people want to go and play with this site, they can go to transparent voting.com? >> correct. >> voting. >> >> questions from the commissioner? s >> commissioner andrews? >> you know, first of all, thank you for the presentation, i did my absolute best to keep up with all of the terms after the url, i can kind of drift and thank you, and thank you for your or what you are providing on the volunteer basis and, so these are some of these are just the fire questions that you can answer, quickly and they tend

deals withal this ebola crisis, and many of them are ethical. are that are kaplan, thank you for offering your insight. >> my pleasure. >>> a white house sending a high representative to west africa, the u.s. am bassor now in guinea. we'll go live to the white house next. >>> plus flowers line fences as the town mourns a school shooting in washington and the community is wondering why a popular teen went on a rampage. t with five vital nutrients. [ aniston ] because beautiful skin goes with everything. aveeno®. naturally beautiful results™. aveeno®. tastes better when marie cait's homemade.s dinner like chicken blanketed in golden breadcrumbs and wholesome sides with her signatures touches. marie callender's. . >>> u.s. ambassador to the united nations, samantha power, arrived in ebola-stricken guinea this morning. >> it's the first stop on her visit to the three countries in west africa that have been hardest hit by the deadly virus. cnn's erin mcpike joins us from the white house and candy crowley is also live in washington. let's start with y

if anybody lowers their standards, their ethics and morals suffer. so, congratulations, ms. caen. and she's on my -- lincoln. we shall community. >>president vince courtney: thank you. it's my last personal privilege as the chair, i did want to say one thing. an -- for me to sit up here with francesca and ann, if there is no further public comment. is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? >> congratulations, president caen. [ applause ] . >>vice- president ann moller caen:. >> president ann moller caen: thank you very much for offering me this position. for your memory of this commission, the commission has gotten something i know you are going to really love. it's a [ gavel ]. so with this i would like to present you with this gavel, president courtney sf puc. the back story of this is that vince loves the gavel as i'm sure all of you have seen i jump every time he hits it and certainly andrew laughs at me. so moving along with the election of officers, i too would like to nominate vice-preside

the last organisms there are ethical organisms. i don't worry. labs tinkering with small pox because mother nature is tinkering with viruses all the time. >> i know there is debate to destroy the existing viruses between russia and the u.s. thank you. >> thank you. >> i appreciate it. >> we'll be back with more of " "consider this." people are... in ways that you don't get to see from the short appearances >> unconventional... >> if i can drink this... i don't see why you should be able to smoke that... >> unscripted... >> we gonna do this? >> ...and uncensored... >> are you kidding me? >> america votes 2014 midterms the series continues only on al jazeera america >>a violent crime.... >> people were shocked >> the guilty locked up >> he belongs in jail >> but it was not case closed... >> it was a cult >> allegations of intimidation... >> amish people were frightened >>torture... >> were you put into an animal pen? >> yes >> and worse >> is sam mullet sexually abusing people? >> yes >> the shocking untold story revealed for the fis

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i want to thank you for taking action for what we brought and we are coming to the table to make ethics better. i have had the great experience of working not only as a small business but being born in the bayview and seeing what's happening and having my family here and having the ability to work next to costa. i have learned a lot. i want to say san francisco hetch hetchy is the purest water and i live in the soutd bay now and we no longer have access to hetch hetchy water and we have some of the highest chromium six ground water and now we are forced to have this water and we have the highest concentration of nitrate which is causes blue blood in babies and we have haa 5, the acids that are dangerous. so what i'm saying to you is the people of san francisco have the hetch hetchy water and ask that you look at ways to preserve it and make people more aware of it because now that i'm on ground water anytime i see someone litering, i want to remind them that it's going into my stomach. >> thank you, yolanda. next speaker, dr. jackson. >> good afternoon, it's a pleasure to be back. spano

and i've become a little bit involved in thinking about the ethics issues. we have a long history thinking about ethics issues and public health in public health and including in the infectious outbreaks and we started to do a little work particularly focused on liberia. >> i am the director of strategic communication programs at the center for communication programs here at the school. i oversee the teams that manage the fieldwork now in about 30 countries and my main message as a part of the panel today is going to be that communications and social mobilization are at the heart of the response today. it's important for for healthcare continuing both the care continuum communication can help us prevent and help us care safely, treat safely and have safe burials and as was mentioned before, increased vigilance and decrease complacency. and to do that, we have to have better coordination and consistency of the messaging if we do that. we can build trust and reduce fear and address rumors and inspire them to take action and ways to stay safe so that is my main

thomas university center for ethics. ethics is such an important topic. don't position we address it properly or seriously quite enough. this is called the third rail, ethic and racial eninuendocampa. to join me, we have three terrific gentlemen. and we start to my immediate le left, lincoln diaz-balart. he's an attorney. he is former u.s. congressman. much loved and thanks for being here, congressman. also to his immediate left is former city attorney for the city of miami. fwornlg, gre george, great to see you again. and of course last but not least, we have former county commissioner for miami-dade county, but today, the all-important city manager of the city of miami beach jimmy morales. great to have you. we talk about the issue of ethnic and racial in-uinuendos n political campaigns. on a national level, it's clear and obvious. the issue of race relations is something that we seem to make two steps forward and one step back. if you disagree with somebody, it's because of issue of race. if you agree with somebody, it's because of race. it could be ge

drilling down on the ethical questions, you represent the who on this. one point made by the whouts and other part white house and other agencies, it's a problem in terms of our global response to the crisis that will require encouraging health care workers to go to the dangerous places. does this quarantine risk obliterating interest for health workers? >> it does. let's be clear. the number one priority of the united states is to stop the epidemic in west africa. we don't do that, we will have conversations in the next 12 months about ebola. we have to get that tamped down. the only way to do that is to send people in. military, doctors, nurses and equipment. if you spend 21 days in newark in a tent with no running water and no tv, i don't think you will get the same number of volunteers as if you say you are not infectious until you have symptoms. don't travel around and scare people. try to control your mobility and check in every day. that's the way to go. >> your client has been the face of this debate about quarantine. we heard about the downsides

here, bio ethics, medical ethics. what about privacy rules when it comes to ebola and the current case, mentioning it now, looking at a list of 100 possibly. do people have a right to know who is being treated, the number, full transparency here. some parents worry now about their kids in school. >> absolutely. and it is understandable that people want to ask those questions. it turns out we only have a right to violate privacy if it helps in the response. what is critical is to know where the patient was, and who else was there, and to get to them and monitor them again for fever and other symptoms. you can say to the public things like who was on this flight, who had contact with these kids. you don't have to release the patient's name. it turns out now the name is released, but the name doesn't help us to do what we need to do if the patient cooperates. the only times we violate privacy is if the patient doesn't cooperate, tell us where he has been. in those cases we have to say to people well, were you with this p

i have another ethics question. what do you do to get everybody on your staff on the same page ethically? >> get everybody on the same page ethically? >> like what do you do to ensure your staff is all on the same page -- >> constant coaching, transparency. here is what is expected if you want to work for me, and if you can't live by those rules, you won't. >> okay. >> let's face it, ethics is a nonnegotiable thing, okay? it's not. michael, you know that certainly in your classes and what it is you're teaching. it's nonnegotiable conversations related to the ethics. you want to be in this business, to be credible, relevant to the readers and advertisers i serve, you don't play by the ethics game, you're not going to work for us. >> thank you. >> my name is nicole. i'm in a research class and our little pseudoclient for this semester is the daily and we've been talking about hypothetically of cutting the paper to three days a week instead of five and beefing up more of the online and mobile. so what would be your opi

we accomplish new ethical and legal baselines about new technology. i've written about this in several articles in my new book. there's essentially as i escribe it in that new work. initial resistance. and hen an assimilation of this is true for the new cars and it will be true for the cars that are evolving today. it's especially all that as it pretains to security good point. for almost perceived security concern or arm, this is a course bonding benefit that sometimes you ways those proceed harms or fear. >> we see this on the internet. we will see you at work with the technology. they will have pollnologies. ith the various tripes that. the reality is is that these technologies the ones that we carry in our poict the ones we have on our cars. re capable of tracking us. we now know in realtime what traffic looks like now just because of the carpet but you can see it for a man. we were all connected and we were all being trapped. so again we have to be clear that every boogie man is a big awful thing -- it has a course benefit that we have take into

that is enough of a reason to decide to take the kind of ethical leaves that this often required.and yet there were stories where you might be discovering wrongdoing where it makes very, very good sense. of course i would heartily subscribe to that. >> host: does congress react to these investigations? >> guest: assert they did in the case of the "washington post" walter reid, which is of course was not an undercover operation in any way and certainly been opposed by his editors at the time. she made a very big point of telling me that i would suggest a lot of the techniques they used to be able to stay there for four months undetected, which was very poured in to the work sound alike to me like the kinds of things that people do when they are embarking on an operation that may bear the label undercover under my very white definition. >> host: brooke kroeger, what about james o'keefe, npr? >> guest: good question. i would widen that, not to pick on mr. o'keefe, but for me the issue is not who does it, that's not so important to me. i said this before. it is really the execution of

his jewish mother who made sure he worked hard at his art. >> a lot of that has to do with the work ethic and having a very dominant, in my case, a very dominant stereotypical jewish mother. but one of the stereotypes is sort of true that you need a parent to practice with your child at a young age. >> reporter: your music is -- i don't want to say it's a kind of ministry to those who hear it, but you see yourself as having a role to developing others. why, where did that come from? >> at a certain stage in one's life to you start to think that it's time to start giving back the other direction. you're receiving all the time. i felt i was receiving from people my whole childhood. my great teachers and patrons and people that have fostered what i am doing and so at a certain point you start to think okay it's time to start giving back.cn so there is no question. it is absolutely 100% confidence. >> reporter: to joshua bell mentoring young people is very important. he's featured here in an upcoming hbo documentary called "joshua bell and the youngarts masterclass," and he often works with s

they have not got a high work ethic.nk france has serious structural problems. >> you cannot say the people of africa do not have a high work ethic. >> i did not say the people of north africa. they are coming looking for more welfare than work. they have not got the necessary track record france needs right now. compare that to what is going on in germany and elsewhere. italy has some problem. have you been in a restaurant where the waiters ignore you? they really don't want to do their jobs. >> i would say that is a generalization. >> of course. we are talking about the country. >> if you are talking about the u.k., it is a fact that the immigrants in this country as a percentage of the population, more of them worked than uk's citizens, so to say they do not work that is really -- >> i didn't say they do not work, but if you look at the demographics, it is the asians who have worked much more than the africans have. the africans do not have a high work ethic. it is a fact. >> i think that is your view. >> i do not thi