there will be a good appointment ethics be ethics be ethics be ethics be let ethics be pick a good appointmentet it be ethics be thanks, rules committee ♪ >> any other public comments? [laughter] >> seeing none, public comment is closed. [gavel] >> colleagues, any thoughts? supervisor breed. >> thank you. i actually think we have two really great candidates here and i would like to actually make a recommendation that we forward brett andrews to the full board of supervisors for consideration. i like the idea of a fresh face getting involved in ethics issues. and as a former nonprofit director, i understand the challenges of many of the things that he tends to face as a director in ethics is involved in that as well as involved in what happens. i know in the civil grand jury and i think from his overview, from his answering of questions, many of the things that i was looking forward to hearing came out of what he said in terms of how he will approach issues that matter most to us around ethics in san francisco. it is one of those -- well, let me back up a little bit. one of the comments that re

what happened with the ethics commission? did they -- >>> we were told at first all information is confidential, which is true, but the grand jury operates under complete confidentiality, too. so, we almost had reached the point where we were going to have to subpoena the information, but fortunately we didn't have to take that step. and then we -- when we take testimony from individuals, we basically admonish them, giving them the information that everything is in complete confidence -- >> my question is what did the ethics commission do? >>> well, they basically said that they investigated and found no violations. >> um-hm. >>> but we could not agree with that because there was clear evidence that there had been some retaliation. so, -- >> so, you'll be a member -- if you join the ethics commission, you'll be a member of a body that consists of five members. you'll have four other colleagues you'd have to work with. >>> right. >> how would you begin the process to persuade them, in this case it sounds like you think the eth

i do want to take a moment to thank the friends of ethics. i understand while we support another candidate mr. audrys is willing to work with them and any other advocates who are interested in this important issues. at the end of the day we need to make sure our government is transparent and has rules that are equally and actually enforced and i know mr. andrews supports that so i intend to support the committees recommendations and a colleagues i have not talked about with others to form my opinion. i hope i don't mess this up. there's a great movie called dr. strange love and there's an assembly of genius and in the pentagon room called the war room and an russian consul is in there. and the president says gentlemen i've never seen such behavior in the war room. we're in a room where politicians happen everyday. and trying to explain this is absurd. we have our opinions and to say that, you know, i'm voting my way because i talked to friends of ethics because that's how i fofrmd my opinion. i met with mr. andrews and he didn't have anything

we may go that route at a later date and we are focusing on the se is with the ethics commission and so there are 7 regulations broken down into four. >> four decision points. and in general, for three of these, six of these regulations, i mean that three of them are kind of like identical and it is only that we refer to different sections of the code, would that require the folks to file with us. and so, the first regulation, the first regulations are the regulations 3.1-03,-1, and 500-1 and what these regulation woulds do would require the folks to file with us and to file the sei in the electronic format for the ethics commission for 2013, and gives us to decision point one and that i am happy to answer any questions that you might have. >> thank you. >> questions on this? >> it seems straight forward. >> public comment? >> david pilpal,vy spent a fair amount of time with the staff talking about about my concerns and i have no objections to this proposal, in fact i am very supportive of electronic filing. i have concerns about how this would roll out and i did want to provide the

>> hello, i'm glen rogers and i am here for a ethics violation. but i was not planning on speaking on this issue. although i feel as if i might be able to shed some light on it. and you know as a

or the 500, or 510 folks are where the ethics commission file as the official and not the officer under state law and i think that we are good and all that we are suggesting is that the folks that you are trying to capture are already in 103 one way or the other. >> thank you. >> all right, i agree with mr. pilpal. based on that, my recommendation is that we just cross out regulation 3.1-500-1 and that we also when we get to it, cross out the regulation 3.1. and dash three. >> and they are already covered as mr. pilpal points out. >> and so. on the decision point one, we only need to consider draft regulation 3.1-103-1,; is that correct?? >> that is correct. >> any further questions? >> from the commissioners? >> could i have a motion? >> i move that we adopt decision 3.1. >> second. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> we will pass 3.1-103-1. >> the next regulation basically requires each filer to provide a working e-mail address to the ethics commission and it runs through the system that will generate a password that will be accessible only to the filer via, the e-mail address. and what we ar

>> i am larry bush for friends of ethics. >> we are not taking a petition on this waiver. but would i like to point out that the city attorney's office has been working for the past year for what is called a guide for good government and includes information on rules for commissioners in terms of incompatible activities as well as conflicts of interest and it is not as of yet being made available on-line but the commission, your commission may want to urge that that process be expedited. this is the 7th waiver, since mayor lee became mayor, to come before this commission, you have granted six of the 7. all six that were granted were people that were part of the mayor's administration, the one that was not granted was a former aid to (inaudible). and if you just looked at it from that standpoint alone, it does look as though there is not a balance in how things are being done, i realize that every case is with that on its own merit and just take one step back and you have to ask yourself, to what extent are people being well informed about what their criteria are? when i wo

. >> the next regulation basically requires each filer to provide a working e-mail address to the ethics commission and it runs through the system that will generate a password that will be accessible only to the filer via, the e-mail address. and what we are asking under the regulation is that they provide to us the commission a working and unique e-mail address on or before january first, 2014. >> it sounds very controversial. >> i could live with that. >> and that is 3.1-103-2. >>; is that correct?? >> that is correct. >> what about 3.1-500-2? >> we are eliminating. >> you eliminated that one? >> yeah. >> okay. >> i think that steven can address why we need the e-mail address. >> so the form 700 needs to be signed under penalty of perjury, so there needs to be some authentication method to say that you are in fact the person that you say you are in the system. >> the way that the system works is that the commissioners would provide an e-mail address to their commissioners and secretary, and who would provide a list of e-mail addresses to the ethics commission and we would input those

the ethics rules we oppose and the on leadership and open government act and later with obama's ethics executive order goetz far beyond transparency and reporting buying lunch. we're not allowed to buy lunch anymore. we're not allowed to do wining and dining anymore. we're not allowed to -- or even our employers and the companies, the organizations that employ us, are not allowed to take a member of congress or a staffer on anything longer than a one are -- one-day trip. just long enough to give a speech at a conference and fly them back. so the ethics rules are sweeping and go beyond transparency. it's had a little bit of impact in trying to discourage some lobbyists from staying registered as lobbyists, but not that significant. given the extent of the ethics rules, i would have expected a bigger impact. but we really haven't seen that great of an impact. however, there are institutional ways we can solve even the smaller problems and that is something howard and i do agree on. >> okay. so that was craig holeman, chapter 15 in the book. he closes it out. now you're going to hear from

and third, a very serious focus on ethics and integrity. but beyond these fundamentals, leaders, in their decision- making, take priorities in deeply held personal values. and i believe that it is these values-based priorities that differentiate one leadership style from another. these are very personal in nature. let me start with fundamentals. first, passionate commitment. i believe that a real passion is essential to lead others effectively. it is often said that you need to love what you do and we all aspire to that. but for leadership, it is essential. it is essential that you do love what you do. you have to let your enthusiasm show. in order to have others follow, to join in with their leadership and actually lead as well, that enthusiasm has to be very evident. for me, that enthusiasm centers around technology to help make the world a matter -- world a better place. the for each person, for each later, it is different and it depends on your own experiences and the things that make you tick. personallyrs identify with that mission of

that established for the first time ever a series of ethics rules for lobbyists. prior to that, it was only disclosure. so there was no downside at all for registering as a lobbyist. suddenly, with some of these new ethics rules, some lobbyists didn't want to go that far. however, it hasn't been a significant drop. we've seen a slight decline in registration on lobbyists, but not overwhelming. you know, if the choice is do we stick with ethics rules and lose a little bit of lobbyist disclosure, or do we give up the ethics rules altogether, i'm going to stick with the former. how do you feel about that? >> i certainly would not say, i certainly would agree with you that the ethics rules are important. i think the issue becomes when people are outright banned from being involved. i would rather have transparency, i would rather have transparency. i would rather know what's going on. and the dropoff that we see, the dropoff that we see in the registrations does concern me x. the conversations i have with people do concern me when i hear from people who are not regist

third, a serious focus on ethics and integrity. leaders give weight in the decision-making to priorities that are based on deeply held, personal values. it is the value-based priorities that differentiate one later from another. -- one leader from another. let me start with the fundamentals. the first, passion of commitment. a real passion is essential to lead our there's -- others effectively. for leadership, it is essential. it is essential you love what you do. you have to let your enthusiasm show. in order to have others follow and to join in with their leadership and lead as well, that enthusiasm has to be felt. for me, that applies around technology to help make our world more secure. for each figure it is different and it depends on your own experiences and the wings that make you take. great leaders personally identify with. leaders must set and maintain an organization's course. i requires real knowledge and expertise. it requires a great investment of time. you need to understand how your enterprise gets things done. it s

>> hello, i'm glen rogers and i am here for a ethics violation. but i was not planning on speaking on this issue. although i feel as if i might be able to shed some light on it. and you know as a landscape contractor, i have had many times when i have waited six months for a project to begin, when you have the large projects that have to do with a city, construction, you know, park merced for example, this project has been going on or waiting for development for over a year, year and a half. and it could as long as that into future. i think that the longer that you have to wait, the longer that you have the people wait, in order to make a contribution, the more likely it is going to be a contribution that is not going to have any influence. and i think that undue influence is really what we want to avoid here. and one year is good, but two years might even be better. that is my suggestion, thank you. >> thank you. >> good evening, david pilpal and i want to clarify as to mr. bush's point about the san francisco housing authority. my understanding

. >>> >>> >> the meeting of the san francisco ethics commission, first of any public comment. >> roll call. >> i am sorry, roll call, let's not forget that. >> commissioner renne? >> here. >> commissioner studley. >> here. >> commissioner hur? >> here. >> any public comments on matters on the agenda and not on the agenda. >> i am larry and we want to include the impact that the pending legislation will have on san francisco campaigning and reporting and that is timely now because we are going into an election season and if the legislation such as the disclose act pass its will have a direct impact on what it is that people are required to do here, and it will be good to have the ethics commission provide an update and this is similar to what the fpc does, and also i would note that los angeles ethics commission is participating directly in the conversations with the ftpc and the state on the california disclose act and offering their insights from their experience. and i would recommend that the san francisco ethics commission also participate in discussions so that they could have th

do not associate yourselves with enterprises that lack that core fiber of ethical conduct. it is not worth it. you can do much better. it is these three fundamentals that are universal. there are others as well. what is it that really setsone leadership style from another and what makes a difference over time? i think it is the values that individual leaders bring to make decisions. leaders rely on decision-making on the very important personal input of their value system, things that matter to them.in fact, many leaders go so far as to actually develop guideposts that they use in their decision- making to help them navigate the complexities that you face every day and to make the most difficult challenges -- decisions that go with those challenges. let me share some of the key guideposts that i regularly use. i share these not from the view that they are necessarily the right ones or the ones you should use, but more to encourage you to think about this notion of values based decision-making and to pose the question for yourself.what are my values? what are the things i wi

we establish for the first time ever ethics rules. so there is no downside at all registering as a lobbyist. some of these ethics rules, some lobbyist did not want to go that far. however, we have seen a slight decline in registration, but not overwhelming. you know, if the choice is that we stick with ethics rules and lose a little bit of the lobbyists disclosure order we give them the tools altogether. i'm going to stick with the former. how do you feel about that? >> i certainly you would not say -- i would certainly agree with you that ethics rules are important. i do think that the issue becomes when people are outright banned from being involved. i would rather have transparency and know what is going on. drop off that we have seen in this does concern me. this does concern me when i hear from people who are not registering, when i hear about people who are not registering, those who very much a lobbyist. the ethics rules will not be effective if the people that they are supposed to effect simply have declined to register as a l

major funding for "religion and ethics newsweekly" is provided by the lili endowment an indianapolis based private family foundation dedicated to itres in religion, community development and education. additional funding also provided by mutual of america. designing customized, individual and group retirement products. that's why we're your retirement company. and the corporation for public broadcasting. welcome. i'm bob abernethy. it's good to have you with us. this week of capitol hill testimony and widespread debate over the government's massive surveillance of phone calls and internet activity. one key question -- how to find the right balance between protecting citizens' privacy and assuring national security. we want to talk about that with michael kessler, an ethicist, a legal scholar and associate director of the berkley center for religion, peace and world affairs at georgetown university. professor kessler, welcome. >> so how do we get the right balance between privacy on the one hand and security on the other? >> well the first thing to keep in mind is that these policy de

. >>> major funding for "religion and ethics newsweekly" is provided by the lili endowment, an indianapolis-based private family foundation dedicated to its founders interests in religion, community development, and education. additional funding also provided by mutual of america. designing customized, individual, and group retirement products. that's why we're your retirement company. >>> and the corporation for public broadcasting. >>> welcome i'm bob abernethy, it's good to have you with us. there was a renewed international push this week for an end to the civil war in syria. at this week's g-8 meeting in northern ireland, participating countries called for peace talks to be held as soon as possible, but did not demand that president bashar al assad step down. they pledged $1.5 billion in humanitarian aid. religious groups were mainly supportive of the effort saying a cease-fire should be the top priority. some, however, cautioned against president obama's recent decision to arm the syrian rebels. two prominent u.s. catholic bishops warned that would only increase the violence and suffering.

city attorney, among the proposals that we will be sending forward soon is a requirement that the ethics commission publish a contributor guide in addition to all of the guides that we have, something that we have not done in the past. it just so happens that we already had one in the works. so we bring to you a proposed draft of that, we think that it is fairly comprehensive. and the only other thing that i want to say it has a few minute of last minute typos that we want to correct before the commission considers adopting this document. >> okay. >> let's see the first typo is right at the very beginning. where in the introduction, there is just a space between the and the end of this page. so it is just a movement. >> second typo is page 4. first line, yes, as long as the contribution is under 100,000 dollars. and the third typo, is on page 5, make a contribution, and the word contribution was spelled incorrectly. >> and the other thing that i wanted to say was generally speaking the commission approves these guides initially. but as legislation and regulation pass that it is just the

>> meeting of the san francisco ethic's commission will now come to order. >> commissioner renne? >> here. >> commissioner studley. >> here. >> commissioner hur? >> here. >> and i would like to introduce our newest commissioner, brett andrews welcome. >> thank you. >> brett, perhaps you would like to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about yourself. >> sure. so i have been here in san francisco for ten years. and i have been the executive director of positive resource center, at the mental health organization that provides benefits counseling and employment services. i have been active in the community at many different levels and i am just looking forward to participating in the ethics commission. over the years of having conversation around this type of work, what is very clear is that there is a lot of interest, and a lot of passion and a lot of knowledge. as i have talked to the commissioners and advocates it is important that we have respectful engagement and i suspect to be a bridge in that regard and i look forward to participating with the staff and the commissio

weakness. >> that's the tone moore hopes to set as president of the southern baptist convention's ethics and religious liberty commission. where he has two basic areas of responsibility, speaking to southern baptist churches about important social issues and advocating for those values in the national media and political arenas. in that role, he says he doesn't want to further political polarization. >> i think that anyone who is speaking about an issue that is, that is dearly held, will be seen as polarizing to some degree or other but i think that if you don't see the other side of an argument as an enemy, if you're trying to seek to persuade and to be understood, not seeking to vaporize or to demonize opponents, i think that goes a long way. >> moore was previously dean of the school of theology at southern baptist theological seminary in louisville. at 41, he has a different style from many southern baptist leaders. he is a prolific tweeter and blogger, who makes frequent pop cultureeferences. >> jumping the shark, which came out of the television industry, having an attentive view o

>> larry bush from friends of ethics. i would like to make two recommendations from our group one is that when enforcement actions are referred to the ftpc and others and they do take action in cases involving san francisco entities that that information be included in the report so that the public can see what happened in the complaints are filed and that in fact they went on to another agency and were handled and what the results were. and so that is one thing that i think would build a little more confidence that there is not just no actions being taken in enforcement. i think that the second thing is that in some cases, contributions that are not allowable, are not being forfeited back to the city. last election the mayor's race, mayor lee returned a number of contributions to the donors but the city law is that he had to give those donations to the city not to the donor, like telling a bank robber, they come in and give the money back to the bank, instead of understanding that there was an enforcement issue that had

so tonight, is her last evening, as a commissioner on the ethics commission and fairly memorable one at that. >> and i am sure. >> you will be missed greatly. >> i will miss everyone on the commission and the commission staff a great deal. >> but in the as much as we will miss you. >> and it is just it has been a rare pleasure and a rare honor to work with you and have you not only a member but a marvelous chair. and you know, i think that you have been a great leader and just so wise, wise and underline wise because you have this body of knowledge and this acute level of inquiry and insight in things and you have tried so hard to be thoughtful and fair and succeeded, well succeeded. and you bring to it also, not only thoughtfulness, but compassion which is so important and truly an academic and i have learned so much from you and it feels wonderful to know at my age i have people around that are mentors and also friends and it just means the world that you have been here. >> and we will miss you. i can guarantee. >> it is a truly a pleasure of serving with you and you helped me and

weeks, president chiu and city attorney herarra proposed amendments to the various laws governing ethics to try to tighten up. the commission has not held a hearing on those, the way that i understand it. they are written in such a way that it would not require the commission's concur ans because it does not amend sections that the commission has approval or aauthority over, nevertheless, i think that it would be good to discuss what the proposals are and what the impact would be or what they are trying to get at and how just to talk about those proposals. they were sort of highlights as a big deal thing and i don't know if they are a big deal and i think that it will be good for the staff to talk about what they are and what they will do and we can just talk about it. >> you will be glad to know that we definitely plan to do that. >> careful what you ask for. >> i thought that you said that they will be sent to us. >> they will be referred to us for comment and recommendation. >> all right. >> it is not actually a four fifth. >> we don't have to adopt them for law. >> sometimes you ask

15 calendar days of a change to their address, e-mail or phone number that they need to notify the ethics commission that is an absolutely new requirement. >> so, there is that and i am sure that all of that training is going to happen and it would happen better if we had a training officer and yet another resource that the commission staff is now down and that a position that we are attempting to fill. >> thank you very much. >> there are people who don't have e-mails? >> there is one right there. >> wow. >> okay. >> very impressive. >> all right. any other public comment on this draft regulation? >> commissioners? >> make a motion. >> thank you. >> i move decision point 3 to approve draft. the two draft regulations. >> 2. >> yeah. >> 2. >> turn the page too fast. >> i was on the topic. >> right. >> adraft regulation 3.1-103-2. >> do i hear a second? >> second. >> thank you >> all in favor? >> aye. >> the decision passes. and we move on to the next one. >> the next draft regulation 3.1-103-3 is what mr. pilpal alluded to. this will provide a small exception to the efiling requirement for

friends of ethics and to band the lobbyists from making contributions. in addition to los angeles have a ban like this, it takes place in the state capitol in sacramento. and it is well done, and many parts of the country. and it is a clear example of the pay to play and i think that the board would most likely pass it and i don't think that is the consideration for this ethics commission, but if i were to make a guess, it would be if it did not pass it, there would be four supervisors and it would be hard to explain to the public why you are allowing the lobbyist to contract to the people who are going to client. >> thank you, just as aside, i didn't know that the commission had friends. so thank you. i am very happy to know that. >> any other comments >> i did feel, i am sorry, this is glen rogers again. i was involved in a supervisor election. i filled out this questionnaire and i feel like this was an important question and the... what i find, what i find so troubling here in san francisco is that there seems to be such an interest in development and

ethically? >> that's a great question. and it would take more time than we've got. but the answer is yes. for example, a lot of programs don't admit people who smoke marijuana. it is seen as substance abuse. on the other hand we've got two states where it's been legalized. a lot of states where medical marijuana use is accepted. should marijuana use be an exclusion, is partly a medical question but now it's becoming partly an ethical and legal question in terms of seeing an accepted as part of, you know, ode behavior in many parts of the country. shall whether prisoners should have access to organs, whether someone with a severe mental disability should be consider add long with others when they need a heart transplant, let's say. so the area is fraught about tough ethical choices but i don't mean to say that, you know, it's just up to doctors and just up to transplant surgeons. but primarily, what you want to know is what is going to work? what's going to succeed? and then let's argue about oth

made in asia or south america, where labor costs are cheaper, fred de sam lazaro looked at an old ethical dilemma. can factories pay a living wage and keep costs low enough to stay in business? >> back in the 1990s, cambodia, rebuilding after the khmer rouge years, gave its garment industry a leg up and agreed to fair labor standards with a limit wage rule, unions to represent workers and freedom of expression, all would be open to international inspection. today there, are perhaps 400,000 garment workers and 300 factories in and near the capital, phnom penh. they are factories for retailers in europe and america. cambodia's garment industry has grown into the largest export earner for this country, three out of four come from the garment factories. the key question, how much all of this has benefited workers, almost all of whom are female. many factories have been plagued by labor unrest. occasionally it's been violent. there have been frequent reports of faintings on factory floors, the unions cite unhealthy conditions and workers weak from malnourishment. >> translator: workers of very

await ethics social values are limited. they can do to the liable having me arrested didn't solve the societies problems >> thank you. next speaker. >> thank you president chiu. i'm dale of the walking tours. and as a lot of you know i'm an advocate of the good people and the good business of the tenderloin. i'm the worse envy of the bad this is the worse and it is at the bar station. you get off the of 7th street. we've got a lot of things coming up this year so get with me okay. thank you >> thank you. next speaker, please >> good afternoon to the board of supervisors. i'm pam. i have lived in noah valley for the last 45 years. i'm here to speak to the subject of underground the wires. i thought of taking pictures but i think we all know what it looks like. i he was embarrassed as i looked across the plazas a. i worry about the safety issues. i'm no expert on the technologies but it's definitely a problem if the poles fall down and their live wires. when i survey any neighbors it's past surveys everybody would like to see

and it was was central to the ethical culture society. that it was an american that one could be what one was supposed to be, one could fulfill one's potential. so oppenheimer grew up in an incredibly wealthy family, also very cultured. his mother was an artist with very great taste in art, and she acquired paintings which subsequently became immensely valuable. she bought renoirs, she bought a picasso, she brought van goghs, and these were what was on the wall of oppenheimer's childhood home. when his brother, frank oppenheimer, later in life lost his job because he was a communist, frank had only to sell one of these paintings to provide for himself and his family in great style for the rest of his life. so it was a very cultured family, very wealthy family. they lacked for nothing, you know, whenever oppenheimer showed an in anything, if he showed an interest in painting, his parents would go out and buy him the best paints and the best easel, and he developed an interest in building blocks. he developed a passionate interest in rocks,

>> commissioner the matter will be moved to september and the ethics commission will go forward and no continuances will be granted for either side unless they are showing for good cause for the continuance. >> seconded by commissioner hur. >> call the question. all in favor? >> aye. >> the motion passes. >> the next item. >> okay. again you have the informational memo in front of you. and i would just point out that early they are year in february, the commissioner voted unanimously that this particular type of practice of a pending written statements to the end of the minutes is acceptable prior to that in 2011, the commissioner reached the same conclusion. and it is continues to be the advice of the city attorney that is an effective practice. >> we would like to hear from the complainant? mr. ray hartz. >> i assume that i have ten minutes. >> ray hartz san francisco open government what changed from the time that this was heard back in february? for the benefit of the commissioner who was not here, this is what we are talking about, section 67.16 of the minutes and any person speak

the second ethical point is i hope most of you agree with this. i do not believe that anybody should be punished simply for what we put into our own bodies absent harm to others. nobody deserves to be punished for what we put in our bodies absent harm to others. hurt somebody, yes and not tell me your addiction was the excuse. we need to be regarded as sovereign over our minds and bodies. the criminal law should not be treating anyone as a criminal for what we put in here. when one is trying to pursue a particular public health or public safety objective, reducing the harm of drugs or whatever it might be. and when you have powerful evidence that a non-course of system can accomplish that public safety health objective as well or better than a course of system, when the portugal- like object of can accomplish that for better or lower cost, it is a matter of good public policy and a matter of ethics and morality. those three key moral points are fundamental in the state in this country. thank you. >> in closing the program, i want to thank all of y