in one thousand ten close to new york the eugenics record office became the center for american eugenics research. the institution that emerged still exists today. what is called spring harbor laboratory now. one of the most distinguished laboratories for the pursuit of molecular biology and molecular genetics in the world i just want to films from a building of. a record of his. i'm right. but it's an story called the commentary it's not about the present which. they are embarrassed by i think they should live or comfortably with it because it doesn't characterize calls for garber today by any means and they should say this is what went on there it was wrong and we're now going past it now for more than half a well more than half a century when the eugenics record office was founded in one thousand nine hundred it was meant to be a place where people studied families. charles davenport who was the director was focused like his hero francis galton on family traits. they look for families they call degenerate. so families where there was alcoholism families where there was so cool keep in

sorry eugenics yet but eugenics ok that's a question. i was on. thirteen and i was molested. i got pregnant. the social worker came over and she had my grandmother to sign a consent. to the welfare department and to my grandmother to if she did the samples papers she would not receive supplements that. my grandmother signed the aunt's. name when they took my son they still asked me at the same time. normally. you know new thinking i'm trying ask myself why didn't we since my body was so young you know and nobody was if you really had to have a baby you know nobody would already traumatize you from the delivery or often the rate. they didn't even say anything to the markets. you know my grandmother didn't understand what she was signing me next because my grandmother was illiterate i was reading once. i was reading my pet trade. and i was also angry at the state north carolina because of something wrong. because. i didn't know how to sterilize until after night after i had gotten married. to a duck that actually explained to me even butchered they said that i was feeble minded

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even though eugenics stopped in germany after nine hundred forty five he continued on a smaller scale in scandinavian countries and in the united states. after world war two i want to really begin increasing dramatically the number of people sterilized to the point that we right there are states where the total number of sterilisations. when we look at north carolina's impacted eugenics population we're looking at nearly sixty seventy six hundred people who were sterilized from nineteen twenty five through nine hundred seventy four and as you can see i start in the one nine hundred fifty s. and ninety's sixty's so we're discussing that we have victims as young as ten years of age boys and girls then that brings us to the conclusion that we have a significant number of people who are their fifty's and sixty's and still very viable people with us today. two thousand and two when they had sound the sounds of the eugenics program and they sound now that the stand in north carolina has sterilize seventy six hundred people most of them against their will before i found out i thought that i

even though eugenics stopped in germany after nine hundred forty five it continued on a smaller scale in scandinavian countries and in the united states. after world war two you know what it really began increasing dramatically the number of people sterilized to the point that we drank their states for the total number of sterilisations. when we look at north carolina's impacted eugenics population we're looking at nearly sixty seventy six hundred people who were sterilized from nineteen twenty five through nine hundred seventy four and as you can see. in the one nine hundred fifty s. and ninety's sixty's so we're discussing that we have victims as young as eighteen years of age boys and girls then that brings us to the conclusion that we have a significant number of people who are in their fifty's and sixty's that's still very viable people with us today. two thousand and two when they were oh i had sound the sounds of the eugenics program and they sound now that the stand in north carolina has their last seven and six hundred people most of them against their will before i found out

>> absolutely. >> the shots are all reflected downward through eugene's body. gene's 6'4. that would indicate that he was not standing when he was shot. he down, probably in his bed. >> at 6 foot 4, the shooter would have to be like 8 ft tall to shoot him and have that same downward trajectory. >> the weapon was moved by the officers before the coroner got there. again, you're not supposed to tamper with evidence. >> what incentive is there for an officer to move it? >> maybe he thinks the guy could still be threat and needs to kick the gun away? >> not with 6 fatal bullets in his body was this fellow gonna move. >> ok, it says here they recovered the following, florescent lights, two grow lights, a ballast which was on other side of grow room, recovered a black gas mask, some scales, pill bottles that contained marijuana, pill bottle that contained marijuana seeds, empty plastic bags and digital scale. >> let's justify killing an 80-year old man for a little bit of marijuana, that's what their argument is i guess. >> what does this say about the bigger picture here, about

eugene o'donnell?s a concern you hear a lot, but the only answer to democracy is to be involved, participate, said and -- sit and and disown our responsibility -- that is not an answer to anything. police are in the middle of conflicting demands all the time. we hear about brutality and overreach while at the same time in many places millions of americans, the number one complaint about police is they cannot get their attention, they cannot get them to come and take care of their issues. they have been awake for two years because of noise, and no one will engage the issue. you need to know that if you have a noise complaint, you bring the police, and if police their radioto lower and they do not do it, that is the issue for policing. what say you when somebody refuses to do that? police could talk to them nicely, police could cajole them. in many cases, police could overlook it, but that is an issue where you might have to have enforcement, and are you willing to own that? do you want to have a convers

the efforts of thomas jackson, the police chief in ferguson and those of the historic and infamous eugene conner and it takes journalists to talk about the ghost of bull conner haunting the story in ferguson, alabama. if we don't know the lessons of history, then we're bound to repeat them. i think we're seeing that in the case of thomas jackson, the police chief there. he's chosen, of course, to impose a strong arm set of responses to the ferguson challenge. and in doing so, has evoked the very worst images of the nation in its historic treatment of african-americans and no place is better emplifying that problem than birmingham, alabama, of 1963. after all, it was eugene bowls conner who was the public safety director who chose to use fire hoses on the little children of

eugene o'donnell? is a concern you hear a lot, but the only answer to democracy is to be involved, participate, said and -- sit and and disown our responsibility -- that is not an answer to anything. police are in the middle of conflicting demands all the time. we hear about brutality and overreach while at the same time in many places millions of americans, the number one complaint about police is they cannot get their attention, they cannot get them to come and take care of their issues. they have been awake for two years because of noise, and no one will engage the issue. you need to know that if you have a noise complaint, you bring the police, and if police their radioto lower and they do not do it, that is the issue for policing. what say you when somebody refuses to do that? police could talk to them nicely, police could cajole them. in many cases, police could overlook it, but that is an issue where you might have to have enforcement, and are you willing to own that? do you want to have a conve

when we look at north carolina's impacted eugenics population we're looking at nearly sixty seventy six hundred people who were sterilized from nineteen twenty five through nine hundred seventy four and as you can see i start in the one nine hundred fifty s. and ninety's sixty's so we're discussing that we have victims as young as ten years of age boys and girls then that brings us to the conclusion that we have a significant number of people who are their fifty's and sixty's and still very viable people with us today. two thousand and two when they were oh i had sound the sounds of the genetics program and they sound now that the stand in north carolina has sterilize seventy six hundred people most of them against their will before i found out i thought that i was the only person that happened to i was embarrassed i was to merely a that i was to create. i would not i ended up being on prozac and sarah. sell enough carolina justice for sterilization victims foundation was started in washington thousand and ten to start as a central location and plan house for people who were victimized

well we're developing sort of a manual on how to manual based on the success of the eugene campaign and we're also producing a short documentary film to really inspire and show the effort that the kids went to to. make this possible so we have resources available and people can find those our children stressed out or contact us there. do you. have you got any interest from any large cities and i'm curious if you know the city in order to contact. we definitely have contacts with citizens and important that are interested in moving in the star action and i am hopeful based on the progress portland has made so far that they will be a city ready and willing to do this as well. our children stretch. so our children's trust we work with youth around the country and around the world to hold their governments accountable to protect their resources that they depend upon for their survival and to do that based on the science and so what that means is we help young people buy a lawsuits in state and federal court we help them go before administrative bodies at the state level to ask them to adopt

eugene, does wearing cameras change policing for the good? >> i think what happens is the cops embrace the camera wearing. the public may not be that excited but there's unintended consequences that we have to be aware of, including the possibility that the police will disengage from the political complaints that people have. that's the large issue that people have, especially in poorer neighborhoods, trying to get at the attention of the police. and i think, again, when according to conduct of citizens, there's likely possible push back. new york has introduced a bill that would criminalize the annoyance of the police. there are first amendment implications there but the chances are citizens are going to start seeing themselves on camera and that could have adverse consequences in their employment. >> eugene, i think in a lot of situations, in fact, back to eric garner, rodney king, the citizens are happy to be videotaped because then their story is believed. >> ordinary people -- if you see where these cameras are -- the larger question is,

eugene protsman is one of the exceptions. a three-time convicted murderer.n a single-man administrative segregation cell where he rarely has contact with other inmates. >> they call me as a serial killer. so they keep me confined away from other people. protsman was only recently transferred to the jail. he says he was high on meth when he attacked a female acquaintance in a san diego trailer park. >> i was freaked out. i had done too much. i had already been up for like 14 days. i thought this girl was a snitch. setting me up. i don't know exactly what all came about. the next thing you know, i find her dead on the couch. i hit her in the head with a hammer. i left her there dead. i thought i would hide out with the karnis for a while. the owner had seen my name on america's most wanted. when he seen it, he called the police and i was arrested one morning at the carnival. >> he was sentenced to life without parole. 12 years later, he was returned to oakland after police linked his dna to a pair of 16-year-old cold case homicides. this time prosecutors were

eugenics but eugenics vulgarized darwin science punishment for an uncommitted crying i was. in eighty feebleminded still today for the few i don't know why. but i still don't know why genetic improvements through forced sterilization are the basis for nazi ideology they don't stop at just sterilizing and now go to the point of death. for years rarely discussed. till now really rather talk about that right. america's colleges which through hollywood television and the media have become very familiar. with campuses american football it's cheerleaders and the notorious parties. it's a life young people dream of but behind the picture postcard is a night for female students. one in five will be a victim of rape during the studies according to the figures published by the department of justice. how and why is this happening. for the first time some of the victims of the epidemic are speaking out. we are in los angeles. tells her story. i was raped in december two thousand and. the morning of december fourth two thousand and ten in my bed. in the cardinal gardens housing complex c

. >> one democrat, senator eugene mccarthy for his nomination, platform peace. >> eugene mccarthy doesng taboo. >> mccarthy came in from left field. he was not thought of in the front rank of presidential contenders. but there was a great deal of frustration and even despair among the young. eugene mccarthy gave them hope. >> from nbc news in new hampshire, this is the news. >> if mccarthy gets as much as 30% of the vote or more against an income president he can claim a victory. >> he didn't win the new hampshire primary but took enough votes that it scared lyndon. >> he got 42% of the vote but mccarthy was nothing, an upstate, if mccarthy could draw blood, johnson was vulnerable. >> you said '68 was the year that is most involved with the day. [ cheers ] >> how does this strike you? you're not disappointed? >> oh, no, he did win. he shouldn't break down the system, work through the democratic process to get what you want. you can hope. you got to base it on a dream, and this is coming true. >> what happened to robert kennedy? >> i think -- >> perhaps the most important result out of

. >> one democrat, senator eugene mccarthy -- >> eugene mccarthy does something that's taboo.mes out against a sitting president from the same party. >> mccarthy came in from left field. he was not thought of in the front rank of presidential contenders. but there was a great deal of frustration and even despair among the young. eugene mccarthy gave them hope. >> how many volunteers for senate mccarthy? >> i'm ready to vote in the primary. >> from nbc news election central in manchester, new hampshire, this is the news. >> if mccarthy gets as much as 30% of the vote or more against an incumbent president, he can legitimately claim an important victory. >> mccarthy didn't win the new hampshire primary. but he took enough votes that it scared lyndon. he got 42% of the vote. but mccarthy was a nothing, an upstart. if mccarthy could draw blood, johnson was vulnerable. >> they said '68 was the year. i think march the 12th is the day. [ applause ] >> how does this strike you? you're not disappointed he didn't actually win? >> oh, no. he did win, though. this is exactly what he wante

and i was just like oh, my god. >> eugene had been shot six times. five of those shots were fatal wounds to the chest. >> the bedding was saturated, pillows were full of blood. blood ran all the way down that side. i guess he laid over there and bled to death and died. >> eugene kept two guns next to his bed and nba latched boxes. the initial police report says the officer the confronted by an armed suspect. so one of the guns was potentially in this? >> yeah, but dents have enough time. >> their story was he was edges sitting and leveled the gun at the officers and the report says that he was killed outside the bedroom as he was coming out to confront them. >> i have blood inside the room. and like i said if he was walking this way or right there, there is no blood in this pathway nor on this rug. >> ♪ ♪ >> both eugene's body and his gun were moved before investigators reached the scene. >> where the body dropped, where the gun is, why would you move any of these things? okay, you say he shot at you, everything he should be dropped where he's at, hi

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eugenics but eugenics vulgarize ation of darwin science punishment for an on committed crime i was never supposed to believe in eighty feebleminded still today if you don't know why. but i still don't know why genetic improvements through forced sterilization the basis for nazi ideology don't stop at just sterilizing yet again and now go to the point of death. for years rarely discussed until now it's really rather not talk about that right. what's really good folks at all rob lowe and this is breaking the set filling in for abby martin so even though president obama and congressional counterparts are on vacation there is one issue that isn't taking a break the humanitarian crisis at the us mexico border secured into just released stats from homeland security the number of migrant children from central america seeking refuge in the u.s. is like nothing we've ever seen it was because while there is still a perception out there that mexican nationals are the biggest contributor to the immigration crisis that couldn't be farther from the truth see over seventeen thousand children have cross

generate a network of volunteers for social transformation eugene read through the lines here yeah well i mean first of all it's an absolutely absurd premise i mean cuba has one of the most world renowned medical systems in the entire on the entire planet so we're now they have twenty thousand doctors all around the world who go to countries that have no medical systems and serve and solve all sorts of problems they have one of the most advanced bio pharma sectors of any country in the entire world to develop all sorts of very interesting and very groundbreaking and pathbreaking drugs so in and of itself it's sort of a ridiculous thing that usa aidid to come in there and teach them how to deal with hiv aids right and considering the failure of the cia vaccination polio program and pakistan i mean we're talking about a program that caused actually a rise in the perfect disease and also there's polio vaccination workers getting gunned down because they found out that they were working with the cia total devastation there why do you think this administration hasn't learned about kind of us

eugenics was eugenics vulgarized darwin science punishment for an uncommitted crying i was never the least one for believing in eighty feebleminded still today for the few i don't know why. but i still don't know why genetic improvement through forced sterilization the basis for nazi ideology to stop it just sterilizing. to the point of death he did for years rarely discussed. till now really rather not talk about that right. ukraine recognizes russia's humanitarian aid convoy is carrying aid as more than two hundred trucks with help for struggling civilians are being stalled at the border. rubbish russia ridicules online reports that one of its armored units has been destroyed in ukraine with no evidence or wreckage to back up the allegations from kiev. the governor of missouri announces a state of emergency and brings in a curfew as rioters demand justice for a teenager shot and killed by police in the us town of ferguson. and the e.u. approves aid to kurdish fighters in iraq poor.

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joining me is washington post associate editor eugene robinson. you were the foreign editor "the washington post" before you were associate editor and you run correspondence all over the world and were posted overseas as well. he was held captive for 44 days in libya. >> it's incredible. >> spoke about that and then went to syria because he was completely dedicated to telling the story of the more than 100,000 people that were already killed. >> as an editor, what you are usually doing is restraining your reporters and photographers because they are so eager to go and witness the truth and tell people about it. that's what they lived to do. unfortunately, you know, in a few tragic cases, that's what they live and die to do. it can be so dangerous. >> and his parents, james foley's parents just came out of their new hampshire home and spoke to the media and said that the president had just called them and spoke to them before he is going to appear before the cameras. the burden on them, they, of course, have known every step of the way of these sec

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dion and eugene robinson. you have a column today that takes an optimistic vow that all of us have had a pessimistic understanding of which is interpretations of what happened in ferguson by race and you point out these two statistics from a pugh poll comparing white and plaque attitudes in the wake of trayvon martin when 78% of black respondents that the case raised important issues about race and 28% of white respondents agreed. when 80% of plaque respondents thought it raised important issues about race and 37% of white respondents thought it did. i look at those, and i thought it seems pretty large, but the difference between 28 and 37 is measurable. tell us a little bit more about why. >> right. the reason i wrote that column is because people have taken that poll and other polls and really emphasized the divisions between white americans and african-americans and there is no doubt that we do look at this differently. the history of racism in our country is there and it affects the way whites and blacks v

eugene, we'll follow the story, thank you very much. >> my pleasure. liz: eugene lee. to you. david: fascinating subject. >>> supreme court ruling against aereo has put the company on death watch but there could be life for the company. we'll talk to head of a company that successfully does in europe what aereo tated to do here. >>> could it get any worse for u.s. grain farmers and commodity bulls? we'll take you to the cornfields with our own jeff flock to get the agricultural take on tomorrow's commodity report. >>> if you think you got a great deal on the airline ticket, watch out? you could pay up to eight times more for your airline ticket than the guy sitting next to you. we'll tell you more about that coming up next. ♪ you make a great team. it's been that way sincthe day you met. but your erectile dysfunction - it could be a question of blood flow. cialis tadalafil for daily use helps you be ready anytime the moment's right. you can be more confident in your ability to be ready. and the same cialis is the only daily ed tablet approved to treat ed and symptoms o

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host: eugene o'donnell, here is a tweet. guest: police will initially willt and then they embrace it. i'm not sure citizens will like the big brother issue. i'm not sure it will build trust. what areene o'donnell, you watching for next in , missouri? guest: i am watching for the news cycle to come off this, get back on it, and i'm not hopeful that the root realities of this are going to be part of the conversation. sadly -- i tried to the upper mystic, but this has been going on for a long time, last few days, and it is a festering issue, and the optics provide great cable 24-hour coverage, but the substance of this doesn't, and i don't think we i don't see any indication that much substance is going to take place. maybe the military issue is going to be looked at. the caller from the nypd, the alumnus, when so that the weaponry has been given to the police for years. some of this is new, some of this is just defensive equipment, some of this is helicopters, some of this is scary weaponry we have to reckon with. now aeugene

as eugene wrote, the fire this time is about invisibility. brown had no police record.spital. given where he had come from, it is hard to do better an easy to do a lot worse. now that streets are filled with rage and rioting must be strongly condemned we can see brown's struggle at least after the smokes clear we will be blind once again. so much for that. how can we fix the problem? well, how about jobs. eugene robinson joins with us congresswoman karen bass, from california, whose district is at the site of the 1992 rodney king riots in los angeles. thank you. i want to start with eugene, congresswoman, because he has been writing about this so well. give us a sense, then respond congresswoman, if you had a congress that believed in action and creating jobs and taking these kids who are 18 years old, regular kids, regular kids, maybe troubled but regular, how do you help them find a career in this country? >> you know, there's no one sort of magic remedy that -- or one thing that you can do to have guaranteed success. it takes a more holistic approach. there are lots

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." >> eugene had been shot six times, five of those were fatal wounds to the chest. >> the bedding wassaturated, pillows were full of blood. it ran all the way down that side. i guess he laid over there and bled to death and decide. >> eugene kept two guns next to his bed in latch boxes. the initial report says the officers were confronted by an armed suspect. >> reporter: so one of the guns was potentially in this. >> yes. he didn't have time. >> reporter: their story is that he was exiting holding a gun and levelled it at the officers. and i think the report says he was killed outside the bedroom as he came out. to confront them. >> i have blood inside the room, and like i said, if he was walking this way or there, there's no blood in this pathway or the rug. >> reporter: both eugene's body and gun were moved before investigators reached the scene. >> where the body drops, where the gun is, why would you move things. if he shot you, he should have dropped where he was at, the gun in his hand. i don't believe jean's gun was in his hand. i don't believe jeep was where you said. >> duri