recent polls have evan mcmullen in second place behind donald trump in utah. this is just under one hour. [applause] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

one poll you see that evan mcmullen at 20%. another poll 26-26 between trump and clinton and see ran mcmullen in the hunt. these are a couple of weeks old. internal spoling showing that mcmullen is surging to the top of the tier. 55% of utah is mormon and so is mcmullen. why we saw mitt romney in 2012 have an enormous victory. john mccain beat barack obama in utah, also a republican state. because of the mormon faith, this was probably one of the best victories throughout the entire country. donald trump should not have this state as competitive at all. >> can you map out a scenario? making a difference for trump? >> without a doubt and should frighten the trump campaign. this is the battleground map. i'm going to give donald trump the battleground states and flip new hampshire and giving him that one electoral vote in maine, get him to 270. this is the winning map for donald trump that kellyanne conway says she's going to play. but look now. if evan mcmullen wins in utah, he loses those electoral votes he's down to 264, this ge

. >> i saw evan mcmullen, you say who! he could become the first third party candidate to win a state since george wallace in 1968! he is an unaffiliated conservative neck in neck in utah. tonight he's come to campaign in colorado. >> did you single handedly create a swing state in utah? >> i don't know about that. i think donald trump created a swing state in utah when he abandoned conservative principles or when the party abandoned conservative principles by nominating him. people talk about utah as being a red state or a republican state, but like much of the mountain west, i would rather call it a principled conservative principles, namely that all people are created equal, and that all should have the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. and that's why i think you saw donald trump and hillary clinton rejected so strongly by most mountain west states by large margins. >> i couldn't personal leer find a poll in colorado where pole sters specifically asked voters about mcmullen. other polls around 2%. in

evan mcmullen. >> mcmullen. why is that? >> mr.rump has managed to engage his mouth before he engages his brain. i considered voting for him and probably would have a couple of months ago. >> what happened? >> well, you read the news? >> unfortunately. it's my job. how much of what's going into your vote has to do with your life as a member of the mormon church? >> members of the lds church stand to be rather orthodox and rather conservative. i think generally they would align with the republican party. although there is quite an appeal for somebody who is not a major political player. i think that was the appeal where mr. trump to begin with. >> you want more? i can give you more pumpkines. how about this one? what is it about mcmullen that you like? oh -- i'm in trouble. >> i like the fact he was intel as i understand it. >> who would have thought a guy from utah was only in the ballot in 11 states could be the guy to take down donald trump. >> well, that kind of remains to be seen. but that would be something, wouldn't it? >> br

that is the idea behind the evan mcmullen campaign.ant issed by conservatives that don't like donald trump and don't want him to be president. they feel they could get it to the house of representatives, the republicans in the house wouldn't want trump or clinton and would want mcmullen. joining us now is the perfect man to talk to from utah. evan mcmullen for president. we took you through the scenario. it is that. i don't think it's an overstatement to say it is a far-fetched scenario, but is that part of what got you into the race? >> well, first of all i want to clarify i'm in jackson hole. i want to give credit where credit is due. it's a beautiful place and i'm happy to be here. we don't believe hillary clinton or donald trump should be period of the united states. we believe the american people deserve a better option. they offer ideas from the past. they are not looking forward. they put their own interests before those of the american people and it's time that we had better this our leaders. they both personify a leadership cr

conservative voters are rallying behind evan mcmullen, a long-time republican running as anepen indnt foriden >> right now i'm really excited about the momentum in the evan mcmullen entuai tmp needs to fi if he wants toe that her historic building on pennsylvania enue, katietur, nbc news,kinston, north carolina. >>> ialleackson in shout-out stood ding donaldtrump'promo. >>congratulaon newt on last night. >> tru talkingbout the fry back andor beten former house speak newt gingrich and foxews anchor megyn kelly. >> tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care aboutc pli policy >> me, ly??? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> you know what, mr. speaker, i'm not fascinated by sex. but i am fascinated by the >> it was an amazing -- >> we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the gop nominee clearly pleased with what he heard from one of his top surrogates, even if some republicanom are not. >> they're losing their mindey' ngmpaign that's going to close mitt 'stweeng every time you t about it like a knee ander tlal, you push m

evan mcmullen could become the fith george wallace in 1968. ross perot never did it. evan mcmullen is an unaffiliated serve active running neck and neck in polls in utah with donald trump and hillary clinton. he's campaigning tonight in colorado. originally he wanted to pick off enough states to deny trump and clinton an electoral house majority. now he's just out to make a number of states or some state in a region, it sends a message to washington. it sends a message to the republican party there are people who still stand on principle. we will not go along with the republicans if they are going to become a pop list white nationalist or white supremacist party. >> we featured an extended interview today on next and you can clark facebook page. >>> tonight mike pence returns to colorado. the campaign stop comes after visits earlier in the day to reno and salt lake city. pence is scheduled to take the staple at 7 p.m. at the colorado event -- stage at 7 p.m. at the colorado event center. >>> americans are angry. there's a lot of research to back that up. gallop releas

for president. >> right now i'm really excited about the momentum in the evan mcmullen campaign. >> momentum trump needs to find if he wants to live if that other historic building on pennsylvania avenue, katie tur, carolina. >>> i'm halle jackson in washington where an unexpected shout-out stood out during donald trump's promo. >> congratulations, newt on last night. >> trump talking about the fiery back and forth between former house speaker newt gingrich and fox news anchor megyn kelly. >> tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me, really? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> you know what, mr. speaker, i'm not fascinated by but i am fascinated by the protection of women. >> it was an amazing -- >> we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the gop nominee clearly pleased with what he heard from one of his top surrogates, even if some republican women are not. >> they're losing their minds. they're not acting like a campaign that's going to close strong. >> mitt romney's former top aide tw

for president. >> right now i'm really excited about the momentum in the evan mcmullen campaign. >> momentum trump needs to find if he wants to live if that other historic building on pennsylvania avenue, katie tur, nbc news, carolina. >>> i'm halle jackson in washington where an unexpected shout-out stood out during donald trump's promo. >> congratulations, newt on last night. >> trump talking about the fiery back and forth between former house speaker newt gingrich and fox news anchor megyn kelly. >> tapes of your show recently? you are fascinated with sex and you don't care about public policy. >> me, really? >> that's what i get out of watching you tonight. >> you know what, mr. speaker, protection of women. >> it was an amazing -- >> we don't play games, newt, right? we don't play games. >> the gop nominee clearly pleased with what he heard from one of his top surrogates, even if some republican women are not. >> they're losing their minds. they're not acting like a campaign that's going to close strong. >> mitt romney's former top aide tweeting, every time you talk about it li

but because of the entrance of independent candidate, evan mcmullen, the state's suddenly in play. the latest poll shows a three-way race out there, among trump, mcmullen, and hillary clinton. one poll has trump up three points. another has him up two points. but a third poll shows mcmullen leading trump and clinton by four. anyway, mcmullen responded to pence and twitter after the indiana governor called on utah supporters not to support his independent bid. mcmullen tweeted, a vote for pence a vote for trump, and a vote for trump is a vote for religious bigotry, misogyny, and the expansion of government. a former officer with the central intelligence agency, he joins me now. evan, what do you think of -- if someone votes for you and you carry the electoral votes of utah, what does that do to the race for president come election night itself? what does that do? >> well, if you believe the polls, and i do believe the polls, hillary clinton has a massive lead in most electoral college projections. and so, what happens here in utah is not likely -- >> stays in utah? >> what's that? >>

>> we want to make sure that evan mcmullen, it is running as an independent candidate, does not win utahi think the never-trumpers, who put him in that position, just wanted to choke off the tru utah,ce path to 273 in which has traditionally been a very red state. if you get a candidate that shares a lot in the state with people who are in the state, you can get him up to 32%, maybe even 35%. but it is also a state where governor pence has a friend in senator lee, and where he recently spoke to the education reform senate. he is on his way to colorado and nevada as well. i also take nothing for granted. that is my job. my job is also not to chase every good promising statewide poll and go deploy our best resources there, meeting governor pence and mr. trump. we are trying to do a tighter electoral map than republican candidates have done in the past. i look to the obama 2012 effort as a partial model. even though some of the states that president obama and his team

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>> we want to make sure that evan mcmullen, it is running as an independent candidate, does not win utahi think the never-trumpers, who put him in that position, just wanted to choke off the trump-pence path to 273 in utah, which has traditionally been a very red state. if you get a candidate that shares a lot in the state with people who are in the state, you anybody can win with 32% to 35% of the vote. he has a friend in senator lee. he recently drafted the education reform senate. he is on his way to colorado and nevada as well and stopping in utah. but i take nothing for granted. that is my job. my job as well as not to chase every promising statewide poll and go deploy our best resources there, meaning governor pence and mr. trump. we are trying to do a tighter electoral map that republican candidates have done in the past. i looked into the obama 2008 method as a partial model. some of the states that president obama and his team, it looked like they were foregone, but they started to improve. they did not visit those states. i think it was a smart strategy. obviously, it was. "snl

john: utah has gone republican by an average of 36 percentage points. >> evan mcmullen is a republican which makes sense. >> you would be this third candidate to win the state since -- these are both candidates flawed, beyond flawed as individual human beings but also their policies. we have seen a level of exhaustion for the legs they been seen for a long time. >> the reason donald trump's so popular among his basis for the very same reason, republican voters and some democrats who are supporting him are disgusted with the political establishment which hasn't listened at all to their concerns particularly on the economy. >> donald trump's favorability is going down. zimon mid-60s now his negative rating. john: let's show clips from the last debate. the big news was trump saying he would necessarily accept the results of the election. >> i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. john: so is this a big deal? >> i think it is even though the media also has gone a bit hysterical about this. we haven't seen a presidential candidate lead before the election that strongly wit

. >> -- now is a tie between trump and clinton at about 26% and evan mcmullen, the largely unheard of third party, fourth party candidate who is a mormon and familiar to the voters is at 22% as you can see in that poll. utah, wow. >> utah's been an interesting state in all of this because there's been -- mormons have during the primary season, of course, had a lot of trouble supporting trump. there's a lot of concern among mormons. >> he was way up there not long ago. >> he was way up there. it is an interesting state to watch. the other polls, the la times poll which has always been this very strange outlier showing a lead by donald trump is now a tie. so -- and, of course, other polls are showing a lead by hillary clinton, some more substantial than others. >> you know what struck me about the utah poll, if you take evan mcmullen and gary johnson and combine their support, that would lead either of the major party nominees by double digits. you think why if this poll is remotely correct, why might that be? i think the answer is i've been to utah a few times. people from utah tend to

evan mcmullen. so much has happened since the last time you were here two weeks ago.ou are at 22% in utah. when the tapes broke, it was utah based and mormon based politicians with a almost knee-jerk reaction. some in the republican party were offended by that. can you explain the thinking and why they moved in unison so quickly? >> it's about principle. it's the abandonment of principle that has the republican party in such a difficult position now with donald trump, a man who lacks principle, doesn't respect the foundational principles of this country. but people here in utah are more committed to principle than i think is required for support of donald trump. so these are people who see the way donald trump behaves. they tried to give him a chance, many of them. charles: the notion that an 11-year-old tape that somehow shocked everyone, there is no way in the world the guy used the "p" word. how dare somebody in that industry behave that way. isn't that a holier than th, u? >> someone bragging against sexual assault? >> to feign shock when you found out ther. may h

so if you look at evan mcmullen in utah, he's running very close with hillary clinton and donald trumpt he could totally impact the race in utah and gary johnson in colorado. listen, hillary clinton over the last few weeks has had a good run, trump has had a tough run. but if you think back to a month ago and 9/11 when hillary was stumbling into the vehicle, that was a very tough time. three weeks from now, who knows what will be happening? i think the anger at washington, the angier at the two-party system, despite gary johnson's gaffes and what is aleppo, they're going to make this a protest vote. >> let's say that it goes the way you say and mcmullen can take away enough votes to hand it to hillary clinton and that would be considering utah's monolithic lock for republican candidates. gary johnson could conceivably take it away from hillary clinton. how does this all play out, do you think? >> i think that the x factor here is that hillary clinton may not get to 50%, and that's not something that hillary clinton supporters are going to like going into possibly governing if she were

the staffer evan mcmullen. a recent utah poll shows a close three-way race. trump in first, but mcmullen only a point behind and clinton with a couple of points off of that. one put mcmullen on top. this is a state that mitt romney won by nearly 50 points. the closeness of this utah race has drawn interest from voters and the candidates. republican vice presidential nominee mike pence will be in utah tomorrow and chris jansing in utah today at the only polling place now open in salt lake city. this is the battle ground nobody and i mean nobody expected the start of this campaign. there must be excitement there. they have a competitive race. >> i have talked to republicans and democrats and they are confounded and excited and nervous. frankly they don't have a clue about what's going to happen. it's so close and so far we are seeing the enthusiasm in the ballot box. if we look in the single voting place, they are probably only going to get a few hundred or over 200 voters here today. by the end of the day, they will probably have something like 100,000 votes i

it really hasn't been reopened, but as far as the evan mcmullen campaign is concern, you see this asn opportunity, do you see it as an outrage, where do you stand? >> when you look at this as part of the continuing sort of dialogue about a country that's faced with two very challenged unacceptable candidates. you've got donald trump who is obviously, you know, for all the reasons we've already covered an unacceptable candidates for many millions of americans and of a lot of folks who would ordinarily be going away from trump look at hillary clinton as an ethical train wreck. a lot of these things with the e-mail and the new revelations, i think a lot of them are baked in the cake about how people feel about hillary clinton and her team. they will do things that either are or appear to be unethical even if they don't have to, and i think this sort of -- the sort of, you know, discomfort you're seeing at the justice department in part was because the tensions between the professional staff and the political, you know, nokes in that same orbit appear to be, you know, sort of bubbling to

independent and utah native, evan mcmullen, currently stands at 22%. gary johnson, the libertarian candidate at 14%. clearly, she thinks this is a state in play. both utah and arizona have moved respectively from solid and leaning republican to battleground states. the other two battle great states, ohio, florida. let's take a look at the electoral map. just a snapshot. not a projection. clinton with 307 suspected electoral vote wins. trump with 179. a total of 52 votes there in the electoral college, undetermined, up for grabs. nothing matters until you go to the polls on election day. let's bring back in my panel. let's dive into this map. larry, let me begin with you. this is what you do. you look at these and you give us a reality check. is utah really in play? >> utah is in play only because donald trump and evan mcmullen, the independent, are splitting the two-thirds of the vote that's republican. that's why hillary clinton is in the race there. i would tend to guess that the winner in the end by a few percent would either be trump or mcmullen. m

with us now evan mcmullen. good to have you back. >> nice to be with you, neil.say to your two former guests if they misbehaved you were going to deny them dinner. >> i will include breakfast for you. obviously you're well known in your state. you're very popular in the state but it's -- to hear those who love you to death you don't have much beyond utah, what do you say to that? >> well, first of all i would say i wasn't well known in the state. yes, i was born here and i went to school here and i have ties here but i didn't have national name i.d. or state name i.d. here either. we worked very hard. we were are three month presidential campaign. we don't have the support of major political or republican party donors, for example. we are conservative independents. so our resources have been limited but we have been supported by the good people of america. >> how many state ballots are you on? could you update me on that? >> yeah. we are on 11 ballots and registered as a write-in in another number. sit in 43 states. we are very excited about that. majority of ame

evan mcmullen? who?t who was recruited by the never trump folks to run a third party campaign. his strength is very particular to utah. he went to school in utah and he is a mormon and that has a lot to do with what's happening in utah. take a look at this. more than 60% of the state is mormon and donald trump had a serious particular problem with mormon voters. they are very republican and conservative and this was basically donald trump's worst state in the primaries. he lost to ted by more than 50 points. he struggled with form on voters, but this is a huge factor in utah. in evan mcmullen can climb up a few more points, he could win that state. keep in mind he is not competitive anywhere else, but he is absolutely right now in striking distance of utah. if that happens, if he wins the state, you have to go back to 1968, 48 years ago george wallace was a segregationist in the civil rights era won a punch of deep south states. it could happen in 20 scap16. mtp daily starts right now. >> if it's wednesd

john: utah has gone republican by an average of 36 percentage points. >> evan mcmullen is a republican which makes sense. >> you would be this third candidate to win the state since -- these are both candidates flawed, beyond flawed as individual human beings but also their policies. we have seen a level of exhaustion for the legs they been seen for a long time. >> the reason donald trump's so popular among his basis for the very same reason, republican voters and some democrats who are supporting him are disgusted with the political establishment which hasn't listened at all to their concerns particularly on the economy. >> donald trump's favorability is going down. zimon mid-60s now his negative rating. john: let's show clips from the last debate. the big news was trump saying he would necessarily accept the results of the election. >> i will tell you at the time. i will keep you in suspense. john: so is this a big deal? >> i think it is even though the media also has gone a bit hysterical about this. we haven't seen a presidential candidate lead before the election that strongly wit

. >> i'll probably vote for evan mcmullen or write somebody in, but for my vote for d.c., but the realitythat donald trump is not acceptable, and he has put the republican leader and conservatives in a tough positi position. >> and the recent polls in utah which are like this one, placing the independent presidential candidate ed mcmullen in a dead lock for second place. joining us is independent presidential candidate ed mcmullen, a former cia adviser, and with a look to how you are cop trasting yourself to the republican candidate donald trump. >> i am the only conservative candidate this year. i am advocating for limited government and advocating for the fundamental ideals upon which the country is founded and the notion that all men and women are created equal, and we have inalienable right s s to t pursuit of happiness. i am the only candidate certainly standing for those things, and donald trump is not. >> so you are saying that donald trump is not a true republican? >> well, he is a republican and the republican nominee, which is a sad thing for republicans, pu he is not a conserva

watch evan mcmullen in the last week. think he has a chance to win in utah. >> the final days of the campaign have brought to center stage something that i think is going to continue to be the story for the next four to eight years if hillary clinton is elected which is the sort of complicated machinery of her inner world, of her inner circle between wikileaks and this latest revival of the email scandal. we realize that clinton world is fraught with tension, fraught with conflict, and it's populated by a lot of people who have big titles and no power and people who have little titles or ambiguous titles and a lot of power. >> and you can read karen's great piece today at your house or in "the washington post" online. >> one of the things worrying some of the people inside her inner circle are november clouds. the clinton campaign is still and democrats are still pretty confident of her outcome on election day but they're increasingly worried what comes after that. the effect of this fbi new development new investigation

evan mcmullen is a graduate of byu, is mormon. he says he's the true conservative. also challenging and could win here. all of the sudden we have all the interest. we have mike pence. who would have thought less than two weeks before the election a vice presidential republican candidate would like to come to utah to sure up support here. you have people like mormon former senator larry pressler who has been meeting with groups. this former republican making the argument not only that hillary clinton can win but she should. here's part of my conversation with him. >> i hear that to my surprise this state is very pro immigration. it wants a bath to citizenship. the old mccain bill. >> and that supercedes other questions? >> yes, the economy is very important. >> tim kaine today putting an op-ed into the local paper run by mormons talking about his service as a missionary to be relatable to this mormon community. it really is a toss-up here. the polls have been all over the place. someone who could win utah in the 30% range. 35, 36, 37% could be a winning margin here.

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dispatched to the once deeply conservative state of utah, where recent polls show clinton and evan mcmullen having a shot. republican versus not lost the state of utah in over 50 years. now a school yard fight is brewing between vice president joe biden and trump after biden said, he'd like to take trump, quote, behind the gym and well, msnbc's chris matthews asked the vice president about that statement. here's what he said. >> people didn't act in a crew like he talks about. that's not true. you and i both know from the locker room and the school i went to, one of the guys said, this is what i'm going to, do because i'm the star half back or quarterback, i'm the boss and my sister and her girlfriend were out there i would take the guy behind the gym. this is absolutely unacceptable behavior period. >> this is how trump >> did you see where biden wants to take me to the back of the barn. me. he wants to. i'd love that. i'd love that. mr. toughfy. you know, he's mr. tough guy. you know when he's mr. tough guy, when he's standing behind a microphone by himself. he wants to bring me to the ba

second place former cia operative and mormon evan mcmullen, clinton trails trump by 4 points in utah. back to you. >> all right. thank you for that. to the weekend, we've got some changes coming. >> yes, we do. >> kevin janison has talk of rain, maybe. >> yeah, a little bit. not quite like what we saw on monday. if you looked up, you saw the clouds. you knew something was up. most of the action continues to be offshore but now we're seeing some rain moving into california eventually on its way to southern nevada. those clouds made for a great sunrise. once the holes filled with mor clouds, we didn't see much and much at all. we didn't see holes in the clouds again until late this afternoon and just a couple of them. up fortunate -- unfortunately, they happened too soon to it give us great color. even with the cloud cover, still very mild. 79 degrees. 32%. that's near charleston and hollywood. next stop down in anthem and humidity. the temperatures are mild. low to upper 70s as you work your way across town. the humidity levels remain elevated. that's going to actually increase tomorro

exposing weaknesses, namely in utah, a deep red state where trump and hilly and third-party candidate evan mcmullen is in striking distance. >> he's speaking to his base. hi really only has one strategy left and it's a scorched earth strategy against hillary clinton. >> reporter: rudy giuliani often leading the charge of clinton conspiracy theories, today accused her of lying where she was on 9/11. >> i heard her say one day she was there that day. i was there that day, i don't remember seeing hillary clinton there. >> reporter: but liquiditien never claimed to be in new washington on september 11th. on september 12th, she stood in the rubble of ground zero, right beside rudy giuliani. katy tur, nbc news lakeland, florida. >> i'm hallie jackson, today wikileaks releasing 1700 new stolen e-mails, part of a hack seized on by republicans. especially one e-mail where jennifer palmeri, a top clinton aide, writes of catholic understand if they became evangelicals. >> they attack catholics and evangelicals. viciously. and that won't be tolerated, it won't be tolerated by the voters. >> reporter: the e-mai

that's the man, evan mcmullen, who joins us now. good morning, mr. mcmullen. >> good morning, great to be with you alisyn. >> let's look at the latest polls. because they're fascinating. this is the y-2 analytic utah presidential poll. it shows hillary clinton and donald trump neck and neck at 26%, and you nipping at their heels at 22%. and then gary johnson all the way down at 14%, jill stein at 1%. beyond being a native son of utah, as you are, what do you think is resonating about you with voters? >> well, we're the only conservative ticket in this race, alisyn. and utah before it's a red state, before it's a republican state, it's a principled conservative state. people here care about the constitution. they care about the fundamental truths and principles that have made our country the most powerful and prosperous on earth. namely that all men and women are created equal and that we all have inalienable rights to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and they don't see that or common decency being reflected by the republican nominee, donald

independent presidential candidate evan mcmullen on day where a lot of folks are talking what the choice tos are in this race. thank you for joining us. >>> a live look. former president bill clinton speaking in milwaukee, on the trail. this is, of course, on a day when donald trump bolted on all of this scheduled appearances, and we're going to see if bill clinton says anything at all about all of this controversy. we'll bring it to you immediately if he does. that is on a lot of people's minds in that room. also more on how the clinton campaign is dealing with what many of calling the largest implosion of donald trump's candidacy ever. that's straight ahead after we take a quick break. m going make as possible for you. you can go ahead and stick with that complicated credit card that limits where you earn bonus cash back. you can get the quicksilver card from capital one. or... quicksilver earns you unlimid 1.5% cash back on ev-e-ry purchase, ev-e-ry-where. i shouldn't have task. what's in your wallet? is it a professor who never stops ing a student? is it a caregiver determined to tak

but that's an interesting point, especially about evan mcmullen. he's really only competitive in one state right now in ute ewe. so you're saying the media's tilting the playing field by boosting up trump's opponents? >> you boost out the opponents, you put out people on panels. no one's asked nbc how did that "access hollywood" tape that only nbc had copies of it, how did that actually -- has anybody asked nbc that? has anybody -- >> sean, you know we've all been asking. we've been begging for information about that. you know that. >> where is the story, brian? where is the story on that? where is the story? every time donald trump makes a comment, every republican up and down the ballot including here at the rnc is asked to comment on donald trump's thing. when was the last time someone was asked on the record to comment about hillary clinton's disclosures whether how she handled classified information, whether or not they believe she's fit to serve because of how she handled classified information and when was the question about how risky she is