and you worked for evan mcmullen. >> sure.llennial and i have to say right out of the gate i know what we get characterized as. we're indecisive and sufficient. what's becoming true and more evident we're just reflecting the vufs most americans nowadays. most americans are not dealing tethered to a party any more except when we get down typewriter and people now like vice president mike pence say come home to the party. i remember being in utah this past fall when i was working with mcmullen. maybe that's a better choice. i know what i'm get offering here and i don't know what i'm getting from an independent. however, you know, i think what's happened in november of this last year maybe leads thise leads americans to think people are on two extremes. maybe we need to come back to the center. >> let me ask you this, indecisive. the research suggests that and one can be decisive about their opinions they don't consistently fall on one side of the political spectrum. >> when you ask them they can often take very strong views. whe

. >>> we're back with our politics lead and our guest, evan mcmullen. mr.ou were in the cia, of course. the world is aware of the many controversies surrounding this president. as he heads to a major summit with leaders this week, does this kind of erratic behavior here affect how world leaders there see him at a summit like this? >> well, i think absolutely. and i think they're going to be very concerned about what kind of erratic behavior or his judgment in that context. in fact, i know that they have that concern. and it's something that american citizens should be quite concerned about, obviously, as well. but i will say that donald trump does have an opportunity here, yet another one, to demonstrate or to earn the confidence of those leaders in europe and the american people, i think, by standing up to vladimir putin. i think that would go a long way with european leaders. >> again, as a cia guy and your experience on the hill, if you saw a leader of another western democracy in such a constant internal battle with the media or other institutions, woul

with me now is the former cia officer evan mcmullen, who ran as an independent in last year‘s us president to see you. thanks are being with us. what do you make of that, fully transparent? the e—mail invitation back in june that, fully transparent? the e—mail invitation back injune to this meeting with the russian lawyer, the head of the e—mail was, russian, clinton, private and confidential. halfway down the e—mail, it said, this is support for your father from the russian government. the idea that we get from mr kushner today is that we get from mr kushner today is that there is nothing to see here and he did not read the e—mail. it‘ll be hard to prove whether he read it or not. but i tell you, it is highly unlikely, almost zero chance that the campaign chairman, jared kushner, the son—in—law of the president, and the president‘s own son, donald trump junior, president, and the president‘s own son, donald trumpjunior, would have all attended the meeting in a busy campaign, the same meeting, happy thought it was inconsequential. furthermore, i think it highly unlikely that such a meeting

i'm sure there's a paul having evan mcmullen winning the race. there are many fewer poles for lower down races. for races for senate primaries. we make it a very good idea, i've not seen large state scale studies on it. i'm interested to see more more people turning to the internet whether not the google trends can be applicable to who has momentum it a try momentum in the house senate. for somebody who might be a have no clue of who's going to win maybe this also was a chance. those are most of the applications and politics. as such a small part of the book. to me there's many more applications and places were pulling is not as bad. whether sports or health, whether it might be a topic i'm a huge fan of entertainment. i think we all are. there is a story about red pit. on a magazine cover this past week. it just seemed a little sad but i would be interested in seeing whether or not people read that story the same way that the mainstream media and the members of the press reddit. that particular place we can get outside we all live in this bubble

former cia operative edward mcmullen and former cia analyst colonel anthony shafer. evanld donald trump jr. have reported this meeting instead of taken it? >> of course he should have. one thing that's fascinating not getting enough information he was informed via e-mail this offer of information, compromising information, allegedly, on hillary clinton, had to do or was related to a russian government effort to help his father's campaign. that's a huge, huge deal. the idea he wouldn't have passed that on to his father, most importantly, certainly other members of the senior campaign team, we know that happened because eventually they were in the meeting, but just keep in mind the campaign was informed by trusted contacts that the russian government was trying to help -- trying to help them, trying to help donald trump. and keep in mind everything that came after that, all of trump's pro russia statements, pro-putin statements, came after they had been informed that the russian government was trying to help them. >> colonel, you supported president trump. they don't deny g