i-work, evernote, there are a lot of options and they're pretty much all utilizing the cloud now.t is it specifically thaw think will be so sticky that people will migrate to office if they haven't been already? >> they're all utilizing the cloud. i think we'd all agree, even if we think it's too complicated. word, excel, powerpoint, just have way more features than any of these other products. now some people say let's simplify it and that makes sense for alet of people's needs, for my needs, i don't need all the intricate formatting that's in word. even though i write almost all my columns in word. i'm just writing in plain text. for some other people it may be different. there's no question that all of these, all of these features are -- an advantage for them. for at least some people. i'll give you an example, people who really are excel experts, windows have been able to use keyboard, quick key stroke shortcuts. to get things done. those have not been fully there on the mac version. this time with this version they're now fully there. for people like that, the spreadsheet in