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fauci on november 20 5, 2020, you cut me off when i made a very good point with dr. fauci. many times it is not the scientists, is the people involved with the scientists. for whatever decision, you wouldn't allow me to finish or to follow-up with dr. fauci to make my point. host: i apologize for that, do you want to finish your point now? caller: the point is that sometimes when scientists sometimes are wrong. the people who are around surveying what they are saying sometimes allow them to be wrong, and there is no follow-up and there is no criticism. sometimes there is self-evident truth, and people don't see it. and when i mentioned that dr. fauci was dangerous, to the young people of america with his school closures, i was right and dr. fauci and you were wrong, and that is why people have lost confidence. host: november 25, 2020, anthony fauci appeared on this program and bill was barely one of the scholars on that program. you can watch it on c-span.org if you want to go back and listen. coming up now, we hope you stick around after this brief pro forma session in the

fauci in this chapter and also the idea of the u.s. funding for gain of function research can. you explain a little bit about that and then i guess like a cherry on top. so was about like a took over our lives not just i mean i guess if you were in florida i used to travel to florida in 2020 it felt like 2019. after a few weeks, it was no masks. everything but everywhere else in the country was still down. you still saw masks. so since what during that whole i guess some, times year long event, what did you find troubling from your discoveries, these foiled lawsuits? was there one thing that stuck out above all else, the the u.s. government was funding gain of function research in china and. they had been doing it for years and tried to lie about it. and they tried to disguise. the potential origins of covid, in my view, to cover up their role in potentially creating it through of function research directly or teaching the technique back to the chinese colleagues of fauci's agency grantees in, you know, ecohealth alliance and things like that that were getting money from fauci'

fauci on november 20 5, 2020, you cut me off when i made a very good point with dr. fauci.y times it is not the scientists, is the people involved with the scientists. for whatever decision, you wouldn't allow me to finish or to follow-up with dr. fauci to make my point. host: i apologize for that, do you want to finish your point now? caller: the point is that sometimes when scientists sometimes are wrong. the people who are around surveying what they are saying sometimes allow them to be wrong, and there is no follow-up and there is no criticism. sometimes there is self-evident truth, and people don't see it. and when i mentioned that dr. fauci was dangerous, to the young people of america with his school closures, i was right and dr. fauci and you were wrong, and that is why people have lost confidence. host: november 25, 2020, anthony fauci appeared on this program and bill was barely one of the scholars on that program. you can watch it on c-span.org if you want to go back and listen. coming up now, we hope you stick around after this brief pro forma session in the hou

fauci were talking earlier i was remembering this was long before that dr. when i was in college -- normal volunteers worked in the lab but of that in the hospital -- >> you actually lived in the hospital? [inaudible] >> we can't hear. >> we are working on that in just one moment. >> so i have lived in the hospital as a healthy volunteer, so they would want to study cholesteryl conferred simply used use people like me to say what's a normal person? but anyway this is, the late '80s and that's when we had eight patients and i remember seeing people that i never met as a young gay kid that was afraid to talk to them. you it's even in the restaurant or cafeteria, then you didn't see them, , you knew they died. i still have this searing memory of that and i think about how far we've come. my first job in policy was at the national association of people with aids. i am negative and i member how we manage that about how this community and the aids committee so people hiv still had to fight for a place at the table. i remember cordless make was exactly director. pe

fauci in this chapter and also the idea of the u.s. funding for research. can you explain a little bit about that and cherry on top so muchut was about covid in our lives and in 2020 it felt like 2019 after few weeks no masks and everything. everywhere else was shut down. during that whole year-long event what did you find most troubling from your discoveries? was there one thing that stuck out above all else? >> u.s. government was doing research in chinaey and they had been doing it for years they tried to lie about it. they tried to disguise the potential origins of covid in my view to cover up their world in potentially creating it through data function research directly or teaching the technique to the chinese colleagues of the agency grantees.co they were getting money from fauci's agency and sending it to china. the documents we shall obtain to show that the lab should never have been given this type of money and the labs were unsecure. and it was going on in more than just the wuhan lab and then we find out data function research is going on in the

fauci is the science, and the science cannot be questioned.jordan schachtel is an investigative journalist who worked with open the books on the fauci report. thank you for joining us, jordan. so why is it so enraging to find out that american taxpayers are still paying $15 million for anthony fauci's security, years after he left left his job? hey, charlie. yeah. so anthony fauci is tens of millions of americans believe he's the most destructive bureaucrat civil service bureaucrat in american history. he has no close peer. and meanwhile, we found out at the dossier at substack, and my teammates had opened the books, amber todorov and matthew tyrmand, that he was getting as a private citizen, $15 million worth of perks from the us taxpayer, a taxpayer funded chauffeur and a us marshals detail to take him to all those award shows around the country and around the world where he'd win hundreds of thousands, millions of dollars worth of prizes for his supposed efforts to advance science. it's utterly ridiculous. and i'm glad that we at least adva

i know that anthony, fauci said. you will see a distinct, a clear difference between the results of states that follow the guidelines and the restrictions and those that do not. but now we have the data and if you plot the 25 most stringent states versus 25 least stringent, the lines are identical. and this just goes on and on. i can look at california blue state, nevada purple state, arizona, red, and they all track each other. and the problem was that the whole situation was lines like if your state has numbers that are falling, that means you're doing good things. but if the numbers go up, well then you're being bad. and the problem with that is that that requires me to believe that, for example, california, nevada, arizona were all at the same time and then not complying at the same and then complying again and then not complying. get it at the same time. that's not a that's not a useful explanation for the data that we're seeing. and so in case after case, like if i said to you, here are four and i can do this b

fauci and dr. collins both indicated, their signatures appear on every grant the process is you have people researching the grants. right? at a lower level. basically they put it before a committee, peer review committee then advisory council and then to at the time it was dr. fauci, for example, talking about the nih grant. this is one of many cases. seen this in agency ver agency over agency. dr. fauci says my name's ton but i don't have time to read every grant. kind of understandable. then who is responsible for it? well, it's the committee. the committee votes on it and blocked grants to the tune of eve's sometimes 100 grants at same time.this committee. this committee votes on it and block grants to the tune of sometimes even 100 grants at the same time. they don't even read it either. we have these supposed multiple layers of accountability that turns into plausible deniability. these are the systemic things in agencies that i would like to hear, what are we doing to fix these things? what a

fauci.ne of many cases, i haveab seen it in agency after agency, they are supposed to be multiple levels of accountability, what happens, dr. dr. fauci said my name is on it but down have timee to read every grant. who is's responsible for it. it is the committee, the committee votes on it. in block grants. we haveti these supposed multiple layers of accountability that turn to plausible deniability, when we talk about lessons learned, these are systemic things within agencies i would like to hear, what are we doing to fix these things to make sure we don't trail on people's civil rights again or threaten license of medical professionals who are experts in the field with a differing view, i am wondering how will we make sure thatle government stays in check, so we can begin to restore the trust of the american people, you can speak to the grant system. has anything been done about that. >> you described the way grant reviewed. >> that is my point, it needs to change, we discussed how broke t

doctor fauci specifically, was he is there some truth to that?hink there might be a little truth to that. i mean, i think when you're talking about public health recommendations, which is different from me sitting in front of a patient in the offic, you're talking about broad recommendations. you want to be aligned as much as possible. it's not as much silencing as trying to find alignment. but he does have some, you know, good points in terms of, you know, in science, we want to have dissenting views as well as the majority to have a healthy debate when we're in the middle of a pandemic in the beginning of a pandemic, it may be a little bit different than on the battlefields of science. doctor bhattacharya will lead the nih if he's confirmed. i believe the nih funds, in part a big part ucsf, where you work, will you chat with him or his team in the months or weeks to come? yeah, i'd hope to talk to him. i think he would bring a freshness as well to the institutions he has pledged more transparency. the administration in general is going to focus

joe, jumping. >> stephanie, as far as the comparison between jake powell and anthony fauci, anthony faucie president, right? jake powell can say exactly that. i'm not going anywhere. you could name anybody but it's jake powell and the fed that has the power to adjust rates, correct? >> yes, but what of the republican-controlled senate says were going to change the rules? what if they say we will change the fed independence? given the current framework and the current rules, you are right, powell can say pound salt. this is my job and you have no control over me for now. we know how donald trump feels about independence and we know he's going to have a great deal of power because he did not just win. republicans won up and down the ticket. so what the exact roles are could change. >> i would add one thing we talked about this before. it really is this red wave across the board. the governor on all of this is going to be bond investors. the bond market will say, where not having this pick one of the things they will say is a non- independent bed. so, i think, from a practical perspective, i

fauci didn't weigh in on this. dr.ific thank you so much for joining us. >> great to be with you liz thank you. >> keep men out of women's sports. >> we will end the insanity of men in women's sports. >> no men in women's sports. >> when you talk about having a biological male compete with a teenage girl in competitive sports americans are saying no, no, no. liz: we got details coming in. trump is planning his first 100 day agenda. he did campaign on protecting women sports from the push to include biological males. that push has got the nation and american families in an uproar. the women's sports advocate who fought so hard for this is considered a hear o hero, rileys is here to react and kamala harris' failed campaign wasted over $1 billion. now the new york times report that top staffers are "appalled and disgusted." democrat donors are saying no, they are tapped out, with what's happened tonight we will talk that on. she's terrific but first, we love dagen and david asman in for sean duffy. david: first of all wit

today we have tens of millions of robots operating on the fauci floors.cleaners and so many opportunities and would say help our lives. there are masterpieces of engineering so much more than people can be and they remain isolated on fauci floors because they are dangerous. what would it take to have robots side-by-side? the answer is, that's a body and the brain. if we compare industrial robots, they are safe and much more intelligent than today's machines. they can move with agility and has the potential of strength. we can have robots that do a thing. they look how gentle it picks up a banana for child yet the elegant move with strength. we have robots do the things? if we could, we have robots and people working side-by-side. another example of what the old to do. the alvin can lower the environment and how it moves along the wall thing for food, searching for food. would be able to use machines for all kinds of challenging situations like search and rescue where it's difficult for people to enter the rebel. if you think about all these examples, exam

then we have a vaccine that was funded by pyeongchang -- fauci, a virus funded by fauci. they have a rule that you cannot leave the house unless you get a vaccine shot because the politicians are bought and the media is bought. fighting has pfizer has made $100 million off the vaccine. the death rate is even higher. i do not trust any of these guys anymore. guest: i can assure you i did not leave congress with millions of dollars in my pocket. there will be bad apples. there will be things that happen. i cannot explain everything in our system. it is by no means perfect. i also believe deeply our system of government, while not perfect, and it has gotten better over time, all the things we have done in our history, those things have happened not in spite of our constitution but because of it and through it. one of the big tragedies we see with a lot of the frustration right now, genuine frustration, frustration i understand with the government on both sides without has up -- with how it has operated, that frustration when it is turned on the system itself, that is the dan

fauci and his staff and all the people involved in health this saved our country. from total devastation. on the others, we have stupid people who are like donald trump, who are walking around in public without a mask spreading the virus, making our country more fallible, more dangerous. host: are you happy with the idea of robert of committee, -- robert f kennedy, jr., as hhs secretary? caller: absolutely not. the man has no scientific background, no way to analyze data, and he will be in charge of literally thousands and thousands of health care professionals who are supposed to take care of this country and keep us safe. absolutely not, no kennedy. host: as we said, plenty of discussion on the sunday shows on donald trump's cabinet picks. this was deborah burkes, donald trump's covid response coordinator in his first term, reacting on cbs yesterday to president trump's -- president-elect trump's pick of robert f kennedy, jr. [video clip] >> i think when we talk about things in public health, we do not acknowledge the concerns. because when my children went to sc

was fearless in exposing fourth quarter chips act, that was consider -- fauci that was considered thisience because he said he was science. and now rfk, the guy that wrote the book exposing the corruption of anthony fauci and corruption around the pandemic, is now leading what is, get this, ainsley, the biggest department in our federal government. we spend more at hhs than any other department, more than defense, more than transportation, more than any department -- even energy. we spend on hhs and that's because so many americans are sick and this is an amazing moment. by the way, my favorite meme since he's been nominated is a meme of nancy pelosi on a phone, i guess talking to her stockbroker, who is paul pelosi saying sell seed oils. this is a transformational moment in america, and i think it's a brilliant pick. brilliant and courageous pick. >>ainsley: i agree with you too. hhs oversees 13 agencies, fda and cdc included and they're responsible for caring for undocumented migrant children at the border. we talk about it all the time and just last year -- in 2024 so far this fisca

anthony fauci dismissed it as total nonsense. joining me "new york times" washington correspondent covering health policy. good to see you. what has been the medical community's response to dr. bhattacharya nomination. >> sheer terror. they are in a panic. especially infectious disease experts are very, very nervous about all of trump's picks. not only dr. bhattacharya but robert if kennedy and dave welden who trump picked to run the cdc. they are all on a slate of polite way of saying is unorthodox. >> infectious disease doctor are concerned what are they concerned about? >> well, as you mentioned, robert f kennedy jr. said he wants to slash the research budget for infectious disease. he says we are going to let infectious disease take a rest for the next eight years. experts know that you know a pandemic could happen at any time. we have got a bird flu outbreak in cattle, and poultry, and that's very worrisome if bird flu were to jump from human to human it would be far deadlier than covid. they are worried about jay bhattachar

anthony fauci is feasting as a private citizen.tail after he retired. from generally for, 2023 until september of this year, we paid for all of his travel and guards who followed his every move. that is not to mention that from 2019 until 2022, he was the highest-paid federal employee with a whopping $480,000 salary. again, you are in the long-run of work. but don't you dare raise an eyebrow at his salary or all of his fancy perks. he is the science. and the science cannot be questioned. we are now joined by an investigative journalist who worked with open books on the couch he report, thank you for joining us. so why is it so enraging to find out that american taxpayers are still paying $15 million for his security years after he left his job? >> hello charlie. yes anthony fauci, as many americans believe, he is the most destructive civil-service bureaucrat in american history. he has now close your. and we found out in the dossier at sub stack and my friends who open the books, that he was getting, as a private citizen, $15 milli

people, tony fauci as you said called it utter nonsense.lins said that he was a fringe epidemiologist. and i think we have to understand kind of where he is coming from. he is a medical economist. so he is not thinking in a public health frame of let's save as many lives as possible or let's stop the spread of the disease at all costs. he is thinking about balancing the economy and other factors against public health imperatives. >> so that point, as you all know, a lot of these picks come down to managing budgets. and making decisions about how money is spent. rfk jr. wants to move funding away from infectious disease research. what does your reporting tell you about whether that would be possible? >> certainly, the hhs secretary if robert f. kennedy is confirmed has wide latitude over the budgets of the underling agencies. nih reports to the hhs secretary so it is certainly possible that funding would be cut. no question about that. >> we have new reporting tonight from nbc news. let me read you a little of that. rfk jr. has likened vacci

it, but fauci was there, dr. shah also a familiar face to our viewers, was in the biden administration, and it was a matter of, i think, making sure people knew what we were supposed to do now, right? five years, four years into covid. i want to ask you a serious question about what happens if people simply hear vaccines as the two sides argument. i have a 1-year-old, we're at the pediatrician every month for shots. if suddenly the whole country hears a fire hose of two sides of pediatric vaccines, what happens? >> yeah, i worry about that every day. and i keep falling back on my terrific friends that are pediatricians and public health officials, mostly in the private sector, right? i hear from my friends all the time that office visits now, there is so much misinformation out there, there is so much garbage information out there, vaccines save lives, they're safe and effective. i have enough gray hair to remember losing patients from varicella or from influenza b, which had been wiped out mostly because of vacc

fauci dismissed the declaration of that as total nonsense.t has been the medical community's response to dr. bhattacharya's nomination ? >> and they are in a panic, especially infectious disease experts, very nervous about all of trump's picks, of course robert f kennedy and dave weldon, the former congressman trump has picked to run the cdc, they are all on a slate, a polite way of putting it would be unorthodox. >> so you would say specifically infectious disease doctors are concerned, what is it they are concerned about? >> robert f kennedy junior said he wants to cut the research budget for infectious disease, he says we are going to let infectious disease take a rest for the next eight years, experts know that a pandemic could happen at any time, we've got a bird flu outbreak in cattle and poultry and that is very worrisome, if bird flu were to jump from human to human, it would be far deadlier than covid. they are worried about nih, he stood in opposition to standard public health measures like masking and social distancing and school c

pete: i don't think fauci was there.his is a separate lab experiment -- will: but the horse is out of the barn. the monkeys already have a third arm. we don't need them running around out there in the wild. [laughter] pete: you've got to catch them, find them. rachel: let's find them, make sure they're healthy if if then free them. pete: fine, wherever their natural habitat is. will: and then free them? this is how we end up with all new diseases. [laughter] rachel: well, this is our habitat. pete: they're in south carolina. rachel: all right. all eyes on president-elect trump's future. count that sound good? president-elect trump? i know, we're all breathing a sigh of relief. he's putting together his cabinet. he needs to fill up some of those important posts. will: house armed services committee chairman mike rogers of alabama is being considered for secretary of defense. pete: i feel like that's mike rogers this in michigan -- chanley painter -- will: i just read it. pete: no. no, no no,, you were not wrong, i just it

fauci, who is a brilliant man, because donald trump wouldn'tlis will be to him and lied to the publiced. that's why donald trump was fired the first time when his supporters decided to sack the capitol because they couldn't handle the fact that he was fired for botching covid. now somebody who believes in chemical trails and doesn't believe in vaccinations. it's not just because he is a kennedy. he used to be somebody who was very respected for his environmental views, including having called mcdonald's poison. let me show you a picture of him completing his humiliation. not only is he chilling with the man he said is like hitler and mussolini, he is consuming mcdonald's, something he would have never done when his dignity was intact, he has to fully humiliate himself. you have to fully humiliate yourself and repudiate your former views not just that trump is like hitler like he and j.d. vance used to say, but also that food that you say is so poisonous shouldn't be eating. he is eating it. >> i would love to see a tape or a recording of the five minutes before that as donald trump pu

fauci or dr.burks over on the side or standing beside the president trying not to grimace when when he would say something. so as much as possible, were trying to keep our reporting fact based that. you know, the administration today said this, you know, measured new measures for pandemic. but again, the president was sort of stepping on the messaging of the administration. and so and then, of course, in the mainstream media in the united states, it i wouldn't even call it, you know, because we just quoting the president. so a of times it was just quoting the president then trying to put it into some context. so i did a like that early in the administration with our national security reporter jeff when president trump first came out and called the press the enemy, the people. okay. and so we dug in to what that phrase historically meant and linking it to joseph in the soviet union and enemies of the people soviet the the soviet union did not get sent on vacation to crimea. okay. so and i think tha

they have been in bed with fauci. they saw a russia building up on ukraine's border.l do a great job, and pete, i love, because he is going to root out the dei and the crt. and he's also going to make sure all of these weapons systems aren't just being built by members of congress and defense contractors because we need to invest in things that can win wars, not make people rich. i love rfk jr. in this position because greg we should be the healthiest country in the world. but we are the sickest country in the world. why is america the sickest country? it shouldn't be like that. we should have the freshest food, freshest water, and people should be excited about this. you have people right now, i think 30% of teens are prediabetic. our life expectancy is like six years less than europe because right now they poison you with the food and then they just feed you pills to cure you and we just have to route out that corruption. i'm looking forward to people losing weight. if anybody has been at the beach recently, it's not a good look. never used to be like this and it's

anthony fauci. he blasted the use of masks and lockdowns and called vaccines propaganda. trump's pick for secretary of health and human services, robert f. kennedy jr., is also a vaccine skeptic. what do trump's picks to lead health agencies tell you so far about the future of these agencies? >> many of these selections imply a skepticism of science. >> reporter: cbs news medical contributor dr. celine gounder is an infectious disease specialist. >> politics and partisanship don't necessarily make for good science, for good biomedical research. and so we can anticipate that this will harm research at the nih, could interfere with the best public health policies coming out of the cdc. >> reporter: trump has also selected a secretary of the navy, john feelin, who has never served in the military. he was a trump campaign mega donor and leads a private investment firm. trump says feelin will put the business of the u.s. navy above all else. weijia jiang, cbs news, west palm beach. >>> three americans held by china are free this morning as part of a prisoner swap. new video ov

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anthony fauci to face prosecution, he wants to dismantle and rebuild the fda, the cdc and the national institutes of health, nih and wants nih to stop studying infectious diseases, which is kind of way out there. in response to this news, what is the reaction been within hhs? >> i think the promise that is spooking federal employees the most is his pledge to shake up public health agencies inrt thr that fda employees have been preparing for quick exits in the event that rfk was appointed to a prominent health role. and the fear, of course, is they won't have jobs when he comes in. there is also just a concern that he could make their job harder to do. so, rfk has made many false and misleading claims about vaccines and including as you mentioned that they're tied to autism. there is a concern he can influence or delay approvals for new vaccines, he could just cast doubt about the vaccines we have, which would not be good from a public health standpoint. so there is certainly a lot of anxiety and fear at the fda right now about that. >> getting back to what i started with, why does dona

as his successor, we saw a lot of controversy around donald trump and what he thought about anthony faucion vaccinations and how to handle the covid pandemic. do you think now that we are very much in an era where we are seeing people appointed for their loyalty rather than expertise and experience? mona: 100%. the entire qualification to serve in dog trump's cabinet is that you be a faithful loyal to trump and willing to do his bidding no matter what, even if it is unethical or immoral or unconstitutional. but i will say that trump has always had an attraction for nutty ideas himself. let's not forget in 2016, after trump was elected the first time, he interviewed rfk junior at his trump tower, they had a chat about vaccines, the belief that they cause autism. trump said that he felt the same. he had been on record, voicing that view, which as your package noted has been thoroughly, thoroughly debunked. but he toyed with rfk junior even then. so he has an attraction to ideas that are on the kooky fringe, that violate science and good judgment. annita: i am just going to interrupt you bec

are we still paying for fauci's security? can we get elon on that right away? we are.t's like $15 million since he left. it's crazy. and we can't even protect trump from bullets. stephen from providence, new jersey i had no idea that hunter partied with quails, coked up quails. you've never seen anything like it. dan from staten island. wait. we were told that doug emhoff was the sexiest man alive. oh, man. you should see him dance. ross from spirit lake, iowa. please tell tomi lahren it's perfectly fine for a grown man to shed a tear watching rocky. different type of tear, much different. i'm waters. this is my world.